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Well I was accused of..... attempted rape by someone who had asked for a pair of rare JBL drivers when I told him I wanted what the last pair sold for on Ebay he said I should sell them to him for at least 30% less than what that was because he was a member of this particular forum, had joined earlier this month and should get a special deal because of that.
I told him that most of the rare vintage JBL/Altec drivers are continuing to rise in price and very likely in 5 years or less they will be double what they are now and if I sold them for less than I would be a fool. Its not like I want to sell them, I thought I was doing him a favor by offering to sell them at all.
Oh well cant please everyone I guess :)
REGARDS SNOW
megasat16
08-30-2010, 01:02 AM
Do you know a pair of JBL sold for 33K+? You can sell the driver you have for 30% less than the price sold. Just show him the link here.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130420422741
Oh yeah, the price of that vintage JBL will only GO UP and UP like balloning or balony.
Now, it makes me think being a Polkie must be SPECIAL. I want a Polkie badge made in pure copper just to make sure it will double duty as improving my system rig when put on my LSi speakers.
Can anyone here make me a Polkie badge on a CNC machine and professionally anodized? Cost is no problem here. :D
Do you know a pair of JBL sold for 33K+? You can sell the driver you have for 30% less than the price sold. Just show him the link here.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130420422741
Oh yeah, the price of that vintage JBL will only GO UP and UP like balloning or balony.
Now, it makes me think being a Polkie must be SPECIAL. I want a Polkie badge made in pure copper just to make sure it will double duty as improving my system rig when put on my LSi speakers.
Can anyone here make me a Polkie badge on a CNC machine and professionally anodized? Cost is no problem here. :DSome of the stuff is insanely priced in my oppinion but it continues to go up. I have a small collection of old JBL drivers horns etc some of them are extremely rare and perhaps someday when I get old enough to retire they will supplement my retirement. I just found it humorous that someone asks you for something that you dont want to part with and then they call you a rapist when you ask for the current value. Ive been called many things over the years but this is the first time for that :p
REGARDS SNOW
Keiko
08-30-2010, 01:59 AM
...he said I should sell them to him for at least 30% less than what that was because he was a member of this particular forum, had joined earlier this month and should get a special deal because of that.
WTF makes him think he's so special? That's just wrong. :mad:
With that kind of mentality, I wouldn't make them available to this individual at any price now.
WTF makes him think he's so special? That's just wrong. :mad:
With that kind of mentality, I wouldn't make them available to this individual at any price now.No worries he aint getting them :p
REGARDS SNOW
Keiko
08-30-2010, 02:19 AM
No worries he aint getting them :p
REGARDS SNOW
Can I have 'em for 50% off? I've been a polkie for 3+ years now. :D :p ;)
Can I have 'em for 50% off? I've been a polkie for 3+ years now. :D :p ;)Sure anything for you, you island dreamboat :p:D:eek:
REGARDS SNOW
leroyjr1
08-30-2010, 03:02 AM
How much are they worth?
How much are they worth? Well the last pair of these went for over 3k but he felt that was way too much.
REGARDS SNOW
F1nut
08-30-2010, 03:48 AM
I'll give ya fiddy cent.
I'll give ya fiddy cent.Sold to the man in blue ;)
REGARDS SNOW
F1nut
08-30-2010, 03:54 AM
Kool, but I'll have ta pay ya on time, 10 cent a week. ;)
Fair enuf :)
REGARDS SNOW
hearingimpared
08-30-2010, 07:58 AM
Rapist!?! Hmmmmm . . . I would like to meet this character. He obviously has had no experience with you or your reputation selling good stuff.
Toolfan66
08-30-2010, 08:02 AM
So do you have to register with local authority’s as an Audiophile now??:eek:
nooshinjohn
08-30-2010, 08:03 AM
The guy is a member of THIS forum??? Sounds like a good one for the IL if that's the case.
cstmar01
08-30-2010, 01:09 PM
I'll give ya fiddy cent.
I'll match that and raise you 5 cents more....just think of the possiblities!
mhardy6647
08-30-2010, 01:18 PM
Well... I understand why the vintage Altec drivers and horns continue to appreciate - they sound good. The JBL's... not so much.
[ducks and runs for cover]
madmax
08-30-2010, 02:21 PM
I think its a rule somewhere, all polkies get 30% off everything. I know how you can annoy this guy, sell them to me for $300 shipped with paypal. That will teach him. ;)
I'll match that and raise you 5 cents more....just think of the possiblities!Wow if the bidding increases I will be able to buy a soda soon ;)
Well... I understand why the vintage Altec drivers and horns continue to appreciate - they sound good. The JBL's... not so much.
[ducks and runs for cover]He He You do mean the Altec-Lansing branded ones correct? :D
I think its a rule somewhere, all polkies get 30% off everything. I know how you can annoy this guy, sell them to me for $300 shipped with paypal. That will teach him. ;)Geez why didnt I think of that earlier :)
REGARDS SNOW
mhardy6647
08-30-2010, 02:53 PM
He He You do mean the Altec-Lansing branded ones correct? :D
Umm, yeah... your 604 Duplexes, your 515 and 416 woofers, your 806, 288 compression drivers, your 811B, 511B, 1505 horns... stuff like that.
Umm, yeah... your 604 Duplexes, your 515 and 416 woofers, your 806, 288 compression drivers, your 811B, 511B, 1505 horns... stuff like that.Agreed. Altec made some very nice sounding drivers and so did JBL IMHO, of course like anything else people will always have favorite brands and models. There will always be the Pioneer versus Sansui versus Marantz versus Kenwood comparsions and I think that each company had some winners and some not :)
REGARDS SNOW
mhardy6647
08-30-2010, 08:36 PM
Marky likes Altecs...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/mhardy6647/surplus/604Etest.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/mhardy6647/surplus/604Etest2.jpg
Not much of a JBL driver fan; too harsh for my delicate constitution... I do have these (275 compression drivers on Metregon horns); found 'em... well, you-know-where... last 4th of July :-)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/mhardy6647/surplus/P1030535.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/mhardy6647/surplus/P1030536.jpg
Nice find :)
REGARDS SNOW
mhardy6647
08-30-2010, 09:03 PM
:-)
in fairness... they actually sound pretty decent
:-)
in fairness... they actually sound pretty decentMost of the JBL compression drivers dont bother me but those 035 titanium tweeters are awful IMHO shrill sounding as all get out.
REGARDS SNOW
hearingimpared
08-31-2010, 07:28 AM
Marky likes Altecs...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/mhardy6647/surplus/604Etest.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/mhardy6647/surplus/604Etest2.jpg
Not much of a JBL driver fan; too harsh for my delicate constitution... I do have these (275 compression drivers on Metregon horns); found 'em... well, you-know-where... last 4th of July :-)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/mhardy6647/surplus/P1030535.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/mhardy6647/surplus/P1030536.jpg
Wow you mad scientist you!:eek::D
dorokusai
08-31-2010, 07:38 AM
I've walked away on many offers, only to be called back...and others that happened the same way as you Snow. My areas so thick with audio that I don't even think twice anymore. Russman taught me almost every buying trick I know and they continue to work to this day.
You're right, you can't satisfy everyone and some folks think what they have is worth a million dollars, some think that since they had so many phone calls...their price was now too low, blah blah. The only thing I do with Altec and JBL drivers? Sell them.
Good job!
Don't ya hate it when a forum "buddy" tries to stick you in the arse?
It happened to me a couple of weeks ago and I just sent him elsewhere.
"a pair just sold on "ebay" last week for...$xxx" LOL!
mhardy6647
08-31-2010, 08:17 AM
I've walked away on many offers, only to be called back...and others that happened the same way as you Snow. My areas so thick with audio that I don't even think twice anymore. Russman taught me almost every buying trick I know and they continue to work to this day.
You're right, you can't satisfy everyone and some folks think what they have is worth a million dollars, some think that since they had so many phone calls...their price was now too low, blah blah. The only thing I do with Altec and JBL drivers? Sell them.
Good job!
Heck, next time I "need" something I'll PM you first!
(but I shouldn't ask for the members discount, right?)
dorokusai
08-31-2010, 08:40 AM
Of course :D
Don't ya hate it when a forum "buddy" tries to stick you in the arse?
It happened to me a couple of weeks ago and I just sent him elsewhere.
"a pair just sold on "ebay" last week for...$xxx" LOL!Well you can look at it like that both as the seller and buyer. On most items I sell here or at other forums they are priced at a discount off retail Ebay-audiogon prices but there are some items that for various reasons I dont want to sell at a discount or sell at all and if someone wants to purchase them they will have to pay the price that I want, some items I sell go directly to Ebay or Audiogon because of this and I dont want to upset anyone.
Sometimes people feel a sense of entitlement and that because they know you as a friend or because you belong to the same public forum that not only do they deserve it but you owe them a special discount.
I have had people tell me well I know you only paid x amount so you should sell this item/s to me for the same price, for example lets say I find a shoebox full of Mickey Mantle rookie cards in mint condition at a yard sale for $2.00 should I be required to sell them for $2.00 to you? knowing full well that if I do 9 times out of 10 that my buddy that bought them is going to re sell them at full retail and laugh all the way to the bank. Now who is getting raped?
These particular drivers are not going down in value and even if I sold them at full retail today in a few years they will be worth twice that amount so in reality I am actually doing this person a favor by selling them at all.
As a buyer I like to get what I consider a good deal on something sure and usally if it isnt a good deal I will pass but I dont expect anyone to give me one and if its something I really want or need odds are I will pay the price.
Giving back to the community by selling something at a discount is something that is a kind thing to do but it shouldndt be something that you feel you are required to do and to feel like anyone owes you anything is IMHO wrong.
REGARDS SNOW
I don't fully understand how anyone could say something like that to you. I mean, you can set any price, any, and that is your business. "Thank you very much but no" is the correct response to a price one is unwilling to pay.
It's hard to figure someone stopping to toss out an insult. In the forum I've already seen some folks jumping to insults without much preamble. They don't seem to need to warm up first, or be provoked.
I'm starting to form a mental picture of the worst characteristics of at least some equipment collectors.
billbillw
08-31-2010, 02:22 PM
Well, I do believe that forum or Craigslist type sales should be discounted somewhat from Ebay, but expecting 30% reduction is unreasonable especially for a newbie. Take away 5-10% to compensate for the lack of average Ebay/PayPal fees, and both buyer and seller make out better.
But one is not required to discount anything anywhere to anyone.
You know, I don't hate the authorized Polk dealers on Ebay charging full price for Polk speakers, I just don't buy from them.
There's entirely too much taking things personally going on.
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