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pmckeealaska
09-25-2010, 09:40 PM
I recently bought the MSFL copy of Rush's Permanent Waves album and absolutely love the sound quality and dynamics. I understand that three other Rush albums were released by MSFL: Moving Pictures, Signals and
2112. I've seen them for sale on eBay but the prices seem pretty crazy to me. Does anyone on here know a good place for me to look for these MSFL releases where the prices might be a little more available to mere mortals? I'm a Rush fanatic, a self professed lunatic for the band so I would kill to have these other albums on MSFL gold.

Keiko
09-26-2010, 04:34 PM
If not the zon, ebay. I just did a quick check and the auction/BiN's are ridiculous. Keep checking.

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m570.l1313&_nkw=rush+mfsl&_sacat=See-All-Categories

I have Moving Pictures and Signals on MFSL, Ultradisc and they are good. I have a 20bit remaster of 2112 which is good also.

Ern Dog
09-26-2010, 06:56 PM
I've got Permanent Waves from MFSL and it sounds ok, but Moving Pictures remastered sounds really good and I thought the reverse would be true, but not my experience.

pmckeealaska
09-26-2010, 07:48 PM
Keiko,

Where did you get the 20 bit remaster of 2112? Was it part of the Rush remasters from 1997?

Keiko
09-27-2010, 03:34 AM
Keiko,

Where did you get the 20 bit remaster of 2112? Was it part of the Rush remasters from 1997?

I stumbled across it at Boarders Books a year or so ago. IIRC, it was only 9.00 bucks. And I believe it is a 1997 remaster.

Rick88
09-27-2010, 07:43 PM
I have the 1997 remasters of 2112 and Moving Pictures, but I don't see anywhere it states it is a 20 bit remaster. Am I missing something?

obieone
09-27-2010, 07:52 PM
I bought the standard, 'remastered' Hemisphere's album. I was pretty disappointed.

Rick88
09-27-2010, 08:01 PM
I listened to the Moving Pictures 1997 remaster yesterday for the first time in a while. I though it sounded very good.

I just finished listening to the 2112 remaster and did not like the sound quality very much at all.

I googled "The Rush Remasters" and found reviews that pretty much echoed my thoughts. They went as far as to say the Moving Pictures remaster sounds better than the MOFI Gold CD (wish I had it to compare myself).

I still can't find anything that says they are 20 bit remasters?

http://www.soundstage.com/music/reviews/grev011.htm

http://www.soundstage.com/music/reviews/grev012.htm

pmckeealaska
09-27-2010, 10:01 PM
I'm surprised by the comment about the Hemispheres remasters. I have it as well and it blows away the original release. I also bought the new SHM-CD of Hemispheres as well and while it was better than the remaster it was only slightly so. I have the original Moving Pictures release and it's a dynamic mix but I have to really crank it to hear anything. I'll probably go and pick up the 97 remaster and compare though I'd love to have the Mofi remaster. I have the mofi Permanent Waves CD and it rocks!

Rick88
09-27-2010, 10:25 PM
I am very happy with the 1997 remaster of Moving Pictures. I have the MOFI Permanent Waves CD in my Amazon cart. I will probably purchase it along with the Snakes And Arrows Blu-Ray before the week is over.

pmckeealaska
09-27-2010, 11:36 PM
You're going to love the MOFI Permanent Waves. I'll be anxious to hear your thoughts on it. For me, it was like listening to the vinyl for the first time back in 1980. And you're absolutely going love the Blu-Ray Snakes and Arrows. The video is absolutely stunning and the audio blows away any live video has released so far. I also have Rush in Rio and R30 and both of those are great, but the audio in particular is lacking on both of those...enjoy!

This thread has gotten me doing an A/B comparision of Hemispheres right now between my 1997 remaster and the new SHM-CD. I'm beginning to think the SHM version blows it away. It really seems a lot warmer and upfront than the remaster, without excessive compression, which I think is the 1997 versions greatest flaw, though I love my 2112 remaster.

Keiko
09-28-2010, 12:14 AM
http://www.rushbackstage.com/rushbackstage/compact-discs/cd-2112/index.html#

I'll need to double check it, but if I recall correctly my copy says 20bit remaster along the spline of the jewel box. I know I've enjoyed listening to it a few times and have no complaints about the sound quality.




From The Rush Remasters Series. Newly 20-bit remastered from the original master tapes. Enhanced packaging faithful to the original album release in 1976.

pmckeealaska
09-28-2010, 12:27 AM
I also have the 1997 remaster of 2112 and mine doesnt say anything about it being a 20 bit remaster. Perhaps you got another version...an import maybe?

pmckeealaska
09-28-2010, 12:30 AM
OK...I compared the one on the link you posted and my version is different. It says "The Rush Remasters on the front left side of the case. Strange. What year did your CD come out? Is it also 1997?

Keiko
09-28-2010, 12:42 AM
I'll dig it out later on and will get back to you. I assumed it was a 97 remaster, but I'll double check. I bought it at Boarders a year or 2 ago. I quess it's possible I have a different remaster.

Vette C6.r
09-28-2010, 12:38 PM
OK I googled MSFL. I am assuming your not talking about the Maned Space Flight, Medical Students for Life.

I only saw two links that were associated with CD's and this was one of them.

Can I get a .50 defintion.

pmckeealaska
09-28-2010, 12:59 PM
Sorry, it's MFSl! Stands for Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs.

Keiko
09-29-2010, 08:29 AM
Got MoFi? :D

pmckeealaska
09-29-2010, 03:24 PM
Just an aside, but i just bought the SHM-CD version of Moving Pictures on Amazon and I've read several reviews that have said it's superior to the MSFL version. I'm anxious to get and give it a spin. The SHM-CD of Hemishperes that I have blows away the 1997 remaster. I picked up the 1997 remasters of Moving Pictures, Caress of Steel and Signals at BB yesterday and am looking forward to listening and comparing them to my original CD releases. The Caress of Steel remaster had the same info that Keiko described about it being a 20 bit remaster from the original recording. I'll be playing that one first this evening.

Rick88
09-29-2010, 04:50 PM
Can't wait to hear your impressions!

vc69
09-29-2010, 05:36 PM
When you say MSFL do you mean MFSL? As in Mofi?

pmckeealaska
09-29-2010, 05:38 PM
Yes, I meant MSFL...I corrected myself earlier in this thread.

pmckeealaska
09-29-2010, 05:38 PM
Dang it...I'm becoming dyslexic. I meant MFSL...not MSFL....however, I did get it correct the first time a couple of posts ago...sorry!

Rick88
09-29-2010, 05:55 PM
LOL! I seem to have become slightly dyslexic as of late myself.

vc69
09-29-2010, 05:56 PM
I missed your corrective post #17. :o

pmckeealaska
09-30-2010, 01:14 AM
I did an A/B comparison tonight on the 3 Rush remasters I picked up today with my original CD's. All three, Moving Pictures, Signals and Caress of Steel were superior in sound quality. No contest. Of course they were louder, but the detail, bottom end and soundstage were just awesome! I dont even want to keep my original CD's!

Ern Dog
09-30-2010, 01:29 AM
That's good to know. How do those remasters compare to the Mofi equivalents?

pmckeealaska
09-30-2010, 01:47 AM
I cant say. I only have the MOFI Permanent Waves. All I can say is that it blew away my original PW master. I would kill to have all of the MOFI Rush releases (Moving Pictures, Signals, 2112 and Permanent Waves) but man, they are pricey! I will keep looking for them on other auction sites, especially 2112. I should add that out of all of the remasters that I compared tonight, the most improvement from my perspective was Signals. I had only ever heard my original release and it always seemed tired and muddled to me. The remaster is so clear and lively it was a real revelation.

Keiko
10-01-2010, 09:16 PM
I must be getting old. I was hunting down that 20 bit remaster of 2112 and discovered I have 3 MFSL discs of Rush. 2112, Moving Pictures and Signals. :o

I have Permanent Waves on 180g MoFi vinyl. I ripped that to a disc and it sounds damn good on my ears. I have all their earlier releases on vinyl up to Power Windows and a rare bootleg, 5th Order of Angels on Disc.

Anyway, on the remastered copy, along the spline of the case it just says, Rush Remastered Series. I'm pretty certain when I bought this though there was a sticker on the wrapper that said, 20 bit remaster.

pmckeealaska
10-01-2010, 10:51 PM
Yep, thats the same 2112 remaster I have. The 20 bit comment is on the sticker on the wrapping that I took off.

5th Order of Angels is the recording of Rush's first show with Neil Peart in August or September of 1974 I think.

Keiko
10-02-2010, 12:13 AM
5th Order of Angels is the recording of Rush's first show with Neil Peart in August or September of 1974 I think.

Yeah, and the recording sounds like ass, too. I rarely play it, but it's kind of a cool collectors piece.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fifth_Order_of_Angels

Here's a rare cover with the late John Rutsey on drums.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN573BGKhIY

And their very first single.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biePqdqmeG0&feature=watch_response

Damn! Am I really that old now? :o

pmckeealaska
10-03-2010, 09:12 PM
Just won the MFSL of "Signals" on eBay for about $40. Since this is one of my favorite albums and it's in mint condition, I consider this a good deal. Now, all I really want is the MSFL copy of 2112!