View Full Version : For Sale: NAD C270 Power Amp
pjdami
07-12-2003, 10:50 PM
I have upgraded my two channel rig with a B&K amplifier so the NAD needs a new home. I am the original owner and the amplifier is four months old. I have the original box and owner's manual as well. Retail cost is $599.
I'm asking $325 firm and this includes shipping / insurance inside the continental U.S.A. This is as low as I can go folks. I did't see any on eBay or Audiogon so it will be like feeding piranhas if it goes there. I figured this was one way to give back to the forum by offering it to you guys first.
The amp is absolutely mint. No scratches, dents, dings, etc. Exceptionally well taken care of in a childless, petless, smokefree environment. The amp sounds great and will not disappoint at this price.
Features:
120W x 2 Continuous Power (8 ohms)
210W, 340W, 450W Dynamic Power into 8, 4 and 2 ohms respectively
Bridgeable to 300W mono (8 ohms)
12V trigger input for remote Stand-by/On switching
Double set of loudspeaker binding posts to facilitate bi-wiring
Impedance Sensing Circuit (ISC) topology
Toroidal Power transformer
All Discrete circuitry
All sockets Gold plated
Both fixed and variable inputs, switch selectable
Soft Clipping
Email:
pauly_70@cox.net
Here are some pictures:
pjdami
07-12-2003, 10:51 PM
And another:
Torodial transformer
pjdami
07-12-2003, 10:52 PM
And another:
Note power plug is permanently attached. Variable and fixed inputs. Gold plated connections. Dual binding posts to facilitate bi-wiring:
dorokusai
07-12-2003, 11:04 PM
That is one sharp looking amp. Looks like a great deal!
scottdawg
07-13-2003, 01:44 AM
Sweet deal Im not sure if thats enough power for my SDA 2's. What preamp are you using.
pjdami
07-13-2003, 02:04 AM
Scott,
I was using this on my two channel rig mated with a B&K PT5 preamp.
I have no experience with the SDA's. That was before I got into Polk speakers. This NAD amp has got some serious balls but I don't know about mating with the SDAs.
There are people on here that know though..
The C270 drove my LSi 9's with ease when I had them set up with them. Really woke them up..
Paul
pjdami
07-13-2003, 02:22 AM
If one could find another C270 and bridge two amps for the SDA's at 600 watts total (300 / channel)....hmmmm...that would be something I would like to hear...
and on the cheap too. I think NAD sounds almost as good as Rotel. The bass is a little different but not worse / better. I have the Rotel RB 1070 amp and the bass is tighter due to the higher damping factor but it costs more too. Didn't spend too much time A / B Rotel vs. NAD but the sound is very very similar... to me at least..
PJ.
TroyD
07-13-2003, 02:47 AM
I think it would power a pair of SDA's with no issues....
BDT
RuSsMaN
07-13-2003, 02:54 AM
Yeah, what Troy said.
That NAD beaut will drive those SDA2's farther than you care to venture.
I have the CRS+ (headed to Troy, so 'HAD' I guess), and drove them with a 40wpc NAD with ZERO issues. (and THAT amp -2240 pe is headed to Dor)
Buy with confidence, NAD is BIG on clean power AND reserves.
Cheers,
Rooster
mantis
07-13-2003, 07:56 AM
By the Pic's it looks brand new......nice amp shouldn't last long.
scottdawg
07-13-2003, 09:48 AM
pj, I want the amp but at this time my funds are slack. I could send you a check if you would hold it until no later than the 14th of August maybe sooner than that. I wouldnt expect you to ship it until the check clears. If someone else wants it and has the cash then let it go to them.
pjdami
07-13-2003, 10:16 AM
Scott,
That's cool man. I'm not in a hurry for the cash. Just trying to sell the amp / see if there is interest.
I can hold onto it for you until Aug. It's not going anywhere.
Send me a private email and we can go from there.
PJ
scottdawg
07-13-2003, 10:48 AM
pj, you have mail.
pjdami
07-13-2003, 10:56 AM
Amp has been sold to ScottDawg. Thanks everybody for looking and the good words on the amp.
Paul
dragon1952
07-13-2003, 12:37 PM
That was very cool of you pj!
Sweet looking amp, too......!
dorokusai
07-13-2003, 01:10 PM
Polk Forum flea market is the shiznit! :)
smglbrth
07-13-2003, 01:48 PM
Paul -
Which B&K amp did you decide to go with?
TonyPTX
07-13-2003, 03:54 PM
Check out PJ's system showcase for the skinny...
pjdami
07-13-2003, 05:51 PM
smglbrth,
Got the same one you have man. ST125.2 in silver to match my PT5 in silver. She's a beauty.
Still burning her in. I've only had her for three days. Got a new cd player too and it's being burned in too with the amp.
I'm still trying to justify this purchase because the NAD sounded just fine with the PT5. I may be getting rid of the Studio 40's in the next few months so I wanted to get my electronics settled first because the speaker selection will be tough.
I'm looking at LSi in the office too. But it would be cool to have a natural, neutral sounding speaker in the office too. The Studio 40 tweeter can be a little "hot" sounding for me at times.
I'm looking at another pair of LSi 9 (or 15s), Spendor 3/5se, Spendor S6, NHT M5 / M6, Vienna Acoustic Haydnrs, Soliloquy 5.0, B&W 604s, Dynaudio Audience 52s or something along those lines. I want the two channel to be something really special. It's going to take some time though... the LSi will put up a good battle..and will be hard to beat in this price range.
Paul
smglbrth
07-13-2003, 10:08 PM
Well,... I think you are going to like it an awful lot!! Mine is pretty well tuned in now and I just sit back and enjoy. Although we have different pre's I'm pretty sure the specs are exactly the same, just a couple of different features.
Talk of justification huh? Me, trying to justify this stuff to my wife, now that's "creative" justification! I've already showed her my dream speakers, the SDA SRS 1.2's, about a hundred times and while she thinks they are neat she's sticking by her guns (not to mention she has a couple of her own). I'm VERY, VERY happy with the two channel rig I have right now but down the road I'm going to get something just awesome....., someday..... While I'm on her good side with the existing rig I have now, WAP, guess I won't push her too much.
I haven't listened to the LSi series yet but people here on the forum tend to say there is much difference between the 9's and 15's. I'm guessing the 15's have better low end, goes without saying since they have the extra 8" driver I suppose.
Good luck and have fun listening to different speakers, part of the fun!!
BTW-You're better off with the B&K, isn't that NAD made in CHINA?
Sorry, just had to do that, no offense is being given here as I
have great respect for NAD!CHINA
smglbrth
07-13-2003, 10:15 PM
Ooops, just checked out your system showcase. Didn't realize you had the 9's already. There I went again, reading too fast.............
pjdami
07-13-2003, 11:41 PM
China! Well I just checked the back of the amp and to my surprise it is made in China. Well, Rotel is manufactured in China as well. However, it is done in factories operated by Rotel employees under Rotel management. The labor is cheap but high quality parts are being used and installed under quality supervision. It's one way Rotel keeps the cost down and offers such a quality product at an affordable price. I'm sure NAD does something similar.
Yes, B&K is made in the good ole USA. Hand put together as well if I recall correctly.
We as americans want high paying jobs. But unfortunately manufacturing industry is looking elsewhere to build new factories and plants due to the low cost of labor. We are seeing that in the chemical industry in which I work. The cost of natural gas here in the states is sometimes 8 to 20 times the cost of natural gas say in Trinidad or Venuzuela. This seems to be a growing trend unfortunately and we are losing good jobs here in the states to other countries. Natural gas prices really drive energy costs and the unit cost of raw materials / cost to manuafacture goods. Oh well let me stop here this is an audio forum and not economics....... you guys catch my drift...
PJ
smglbrth
07-14-2003, 04:05 PM
Well said..., and well ended.
Don't forget to give us your review of the new amp, especially since you'll be running the same pre.
Have fun!!
scottdawg
08-09-2003, 02:07 AM
Paul, The money will be in the bank on Thursday the 14th. Couldnt make it happen any sooner. Thanks for what you did. Im really looking forward to hearing the NAD and my SDA's.
SEC football coming soon to a stadium near you bro.
pjdami
08-09-2003, 02:34 AM
That's cool Scott. I'll get her ready for shipment bud. I'll double check with you before I deposit the check. I'll send a tracking number on private email too.
Yes, the smell of football is in the air. Can't wait.
Paul
geaux tigers! LSU that is...
scottdawg
08-09-2003, 01:43 PM
Great dealing with you, Im sure you can do the transaction on Thursday but I will email you anyway. I like the pic. I dont know what Im more excited about, football or the new amp.
pjdami
08-11-2003, 01:21 AM
Hey Scott,
Today I paid my last homage to the NAD C270. I wanted to hook it up to make sure everything was fine before I boxed it up and wanted to listen one last time.
I hooked it up to some "spare" Infinity Sterling Series bookshelves that I have laying around, my Denon DCD 690 cd player which has a volume control on it (wish more cd players would do this), Signal Cable Analog two interconnects, and Radio Shack 12 gauge speaker wire. I used to variable input gain on the NAD to initially control the volume.
What's missing here??? No preamp!!! How cool is that! Straight signal from cd player to the power amp and adjust the volume with the gain on the back and then from the cd player remote.
Not bad sounding for I guess my third rig that I put together really quick. The C270 is a great amp... very flexible with the variable gain on her. I hate to see her go... but looks like she has found a good home... plus I really don't need a third rig in the same house.
Paul
scottdawg
08-11-2003, 10:39 PM
Well Paul it has definately found a good home. I am very anxious to get it and hear it coupled with my Antique Sound Labs tube preamp (I have 5 sets of tubes now) and Calaudio cd player with all DH labs interconnects. I will submit a pic when it is all together. My B & K ST3030 will soon become a bedroom amp for my Polk Monitor 7 series 2, a preamp will have to be found for that system when the money is available.
smglbrth
08-12-2003, 04:09 PM
Paul - How's that new B&K treating you?
To both of you, hope you like your new toys!
scottdawg
08-18-2003, 11:11 PM
The amp arrived today, it was in my listening room boxed up as if I ordered it from NAD when I got home from work. I had little time (10 minutes) to jam due to other obligations. The initial response was WHOA! I just want to let everyone know that if Paul is selling something and you want it then you cant buy it from a better person. Paul held this amp for me for a month because I didnt have the funds to give him right away. I talked to the local NAD dealer Saturday and he said that was a great deal for $325 not to mention shipping and insurance included. It was packed just like it was when Paul first opened it. I will post pics and a review soon. Thank You Paul the amp is in good hands.
pjdami
08-18-2003, 11:17 PM
You are so very welcome Scott. I'm glad to see that you will have a very good use for this amplifier. It is really a nice piece of gear. I second guess getting rid of it all the time but looks like it has found a great new home.
Yes pics and a review would be great. I want to know what all this tube fuss is about.
Enjoy.
Paul
polkatese
08-18-2003, 11:22 PM
great amp and great transactions! nothing like hearing a well executed deals!
btw, Paul, those air filters in the pics, are those 14X30X1 by any chance?:D
pjdami
08-18-2003, 11:43 PM
btw, Paul, those air filters in the pics, are those 14X30X1 by any chance?
Polkatese,
Yes one of them may be. I accidentally bought it when I didn't remember what size the air filter was in the new house (24" X 24").
That's my official "storage" room. I have a workout bench in there as well as the ironing board for clothes and empty boxes of audio gear, etc. etc. One day this will be setup for a third rig maybe; I've got enough "spare" parts to do it, but really haven't had the urge to do so I spend maybe 4 hrs/week in there.
Paul
polkatese
08-18-2003, 11:58 PM
nice storage room! btw, how do you like your myryad CDP? just curious, I read rave review about it somewhere. I was planning of upgrading my trusty Sony earlier, but has to put the plan on hold (till Dow hits 10000 again..) for now.
pjdami
08-19-2003, 09:27 PM
btw, how do you like your myryad CDP?
Polkatese,
So far so good on the Myryad cd player. I really want to put it up against the Rotel RCD 961 I have in the main rig using the same Tranparent ICs. I will probably do that this weekend and let you know.
Recently, I did a shootout between my brother's RCD 1070 and my RCD 961 using the same cd and Musiclinks. I could hear no difference at all between the two players. None.. zilch.. nada... Was considering upgrade to the 1070 because I can do that through my Rotel dealer but I can't tell the difference between the two at all.
I've been wanting to experiment around with some cd players lately and the Myryad was a pleasant find at Audio Advisor at 1/2 off retail cost. I was also considering an Arcam Diva 72, Music Hall, Rega Planet, and the Njoe Tjoeb really caught my eye but it was too late. It is getting rave reviews and is a modified Marantz player (uses the chassis) and has tubes in it.
I'm still curious in this player and it looks like it has a strong following:
http://www.upscaleaudio.com/
Oh and a pic of my RCD 961 vs RCD 1070 shootout... I love doing this stuff...
polkatese
08-19-2003, 09:49 PM
that would be great, Paul, do let us know the diff between Rotel and Myryad. I've been all over the map, from MF A3.24 to Arcam FMJ. Haven't done any demo though, just basing my search on comments. Upscaleaudio is really close to my house, but Kevin, the owner, seemed too busy to deal with me (he was on his way to the Factory in Netherlands, so he asked me to call him later in the month). One of these days...
pjdami
08-19-2003, 10:25 PM
Polkatese,
So I take it you haven't listened to the Njoe Tjoeb cdp yet at Upscale? Being so close man you should when you get a chance.
From what I've read (and wish I could listen) this player uses tubes that one can change out for a tube like sound even through solid state pre-amp/amps. Many describe typical cd players having that "digital" sound compared to say some vinyl records. Well this player is supposed to bridge that gap some. Makes me really really curious to try it out down the road.
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