Polk SDA-2b vs Polk RT3000p vs Mission 753

[kchilaka]

Folks,
I have an opportunity to buy two pairs of speakers locally.
1. A pair of Mission 753 Floorstanding speakers for about $300 for the pair. I did try to read about them as much as I can and it looks like they might have a nice refined B&W like sound (after the tweeter mesh mod).
2. A Pair of Polk RT3000p floorstanders for about $600. One of the subs has gone out on these but I am hoping it is a simple repair.

These will primarily be used for Music with some HT watching thrown in. I already do have a subwoofer (which I will sell if I get the RT3000p) so effectively making the cost about $400 for them. I am primarily interested in an even tonal balance without harsh treble. Looking for accurate and tight bass at moderate volumes.. I rarely play music at very high SPLs.

I will be upgrading from a pair of Polk SDA-2b speakers.. I was hoping to get some opinions if either of these speakers will be an upgrade from the Polk SDA-2B speakers..
Any previous owners around here for these models who might want to comment on these choices?

How do the prices sound for the Polk RT3000p and Mission 753 (Rosewood)

[Joe08867]

If you are looking to avoid harshness than I would go with the Rt3000p's.

I think the Missions are nice speakers but the RT's are really nice. IMHO

You shouldn't need a sub with the RT's either.

[leroyjr1]

For music keep the 2b's

[dcoil]

For music keep the 2b's

I agree with Leroyjr1. Are you using the crossover cable with the 2b's? If you're looking for improved sound, you could always do some of the mods as suggested on the forum. I'd suggest you start with a XO'r mod - I think it's the biggest bang for the buck.

[kchilaka]

I agree with Leroyjr1. Are you using the crossover cable with the 2b's? If you're looking for improved sound, you could always do some of the mods as suggested on the forum. I'd suggest you start with a XO'r mod - I think it's the biggest bang for the buck.

Yup. I have the cable. Hmm. Any comments on the pricing ?

[Joe08867]

I didn't see you had 2b's already, Keep the 2b's for music. Forget everything else I said.

I would mod them and be done with it. SDA 2b's are very nice speakers. I should know I have a pair.

[newrival]

Until Dan took my 2b's off my hands, I had both the 2b's and the RT3000p's. And if you get the RT's you aren't upgrading at all. Just taking a huge horizontal leap. In my opinion, they aren't really comparable. The 2b's are crazy musical, and if you're used to the 2b's, prepare to have your soundstage crammed into a sardine can. The RT3000p's are fantastic speakers. Tight impactful bass they have; airy, delicate, and clear they aren't. They kill for HT. Super dynamic. But if I didn't have my SRS's for my 2ch to listen to my music and had go through my HT systemI wouldn't be thrilled. They'd be ok, I would just feel like I'm at a club instead of in the front row :wink:

Keep your 2b's! do the upgrade!

What are you running yor 2b's on currently? what sub are you running? If you can't extract the desired bass from the 2b's, I had good luck with a stereo pair of NHT 10" front firing servos. But that was mostly for HT until I upgraded to Velodyne 15's. Then the Titanics... man, you don't realize how sick you are until you see the words in front of you... :biggrin:

[inspiredsports]

For 2-channel, in my humble opinion, neither of the 2 speakers you mention would be as you say, "upgrading". TL, install some nice binding posts, consider a custom SDA interconnect cable, add TFLF's Rings and some Dynamat Extreme and you are pretty much set.

[heiney9]

2B's no contest unless you are only for HT duty, then the RT3000p

H9

[kchilaka]

2B's no contest unless you are only for HT duty, then the RT3000p

H9

Well. I guess I should keep the sda2b. Perhaps I can get the rt3000p, fix the sub and sell for a profit. Not sure wether it's worth my time. Don't think I can
Make too much from fixing up the RT3000p

[heiney9]

Check to makse sure parts are available before trying to buy-repair-flip. Some of the older series like that have limited parts availability.

H9

[kchilaka]

I do think the bass of the SDA2bs can be improved. I did actually have a 15in Dayton titanic. It was far too much sub for my room and I sold it for $250(kicking myself now). The main reason I sold it was it was a great HT sub but the driver seemed too heavy for good music. I was hoping the RT3000p would give me the best of both worlds. Solid low-end with the resolution of the SDA2b. I guess no one has even bothered to comment on the missions.


Until Dan took my 2b's off my hands, I had both the 2b's and the RT3000p's. And if you get the RT's you aren't upgrading at all. Just taking a huge horizontal leap. In my opinion, they aren't really comparable. The 2b's are crazy musical, and if you're used to the 2b's, prepare to have your soundstage crammed into a sardine can. The RT3000p's are fantastic speakers. Tight impactful bass they have; airy, delicate, and clear they aren't. They kill for HT. Super dynamic. But if I didn't have my SRS's for my 2ch to listen to my music and had go through my HT systemI wouldn't be thrilled. They'd be ok, I would just feel like I'm at a club instead of in the front row :wink:

Keep your 2b's! do the upgrade!

What are you running yor 2b's on currently? what sub are you running? If you can't extract the desired bass from the 2b's, I had good luck with a stereo pair of NHT 10" front firing servos. But that was mostly for HT until I upgraded to Velodyne 15's. Then the Titanics... man, you don't realize how sick you are until you see the words in front of you... :biggrin:

[F1nut]

Do the TL mod to your 2B's and see if you can get a set of Larry's rings. You can thank us later.

[leroyjr1]

I do think the bass of the SDA2bs can be improved. I did actually have a 15in Dayton titanic. It was far too much sub for my room and I sold it for $250(kicking myself now). The main reason I sold it was it was a great HT sub but the driver seemed too heavy for good music. I was hoping the RT3000p would give me the best of both worlds. Solid low-end with the resolution of the SDA2b. I guess no one has even bothered to comment on the missions.


If you're not happy with your 2b's it might be time to try other brands or model sda's. The bigger sda's will give you better low end, no sub will be needed. In my room I liked the SRS2's the best. It gave me great filling bass with a very wide sound stage and was smooth up top with the RDO tweeters.

[newrival]

Check to makse sure parts are available before trying to buy-repair-flip. Some of the older series like that have limited parts availability.

H9

I can attest to the scarcity of parts for these subs. I lucked out with buying a new amp and new driver from CP members. I have a feeling you'll have a very hard time tracking the parts you'll need. And until you know what it takes to fix it, you won't know if you can flip it for a profit. Good luck, though!

[newrival]

I do think the bass of the SDA2bs can be improved. I did actually have a 15in Dayton titanic. It was far too much sub for my room and I sold it for $250(kicking myself now). The main reason I sold it was it was a great HT sub but the driver seemed too heavy for good music. I was hoping the RT3000p would give me the best of both worlds. Solid low-end with the resolution of the SDA2b. I guess no one has even bothered to comment on the missions.

Yeah that Dayton is a lot of sub. And a bigger room may suit it better. Anyways, I only use subs for HT. I suspect you would do the same if you could get the Polks digging a litle deeper. The RT3000p's do have good bass. It is very controlled and pretty clear. But it needs a good LFE sub with it too to really dig out those explosions that crush your chest. I mean, if you like that sort of thing :wink:

[Stew]

I do think the bass of the SDA2bs can be improved.

You'll be amazed at the bass the 2B's can produce with the crossover mods and a high current amp. One other mod you might consider is replacing the SDA inductors (Big coils mounted behind the crossover boards). Do a search for Erse Super Q inductors. Also, try playing with the spacing from the back wall. 5 or 6" generally sounds good but as little as 2 or 3 inches works in some rooms. When you get it right, you'll forget all about a sub for music.

[kchilaka]

Check to makse sure parts are available before trying to buy-repair-flip. Some of the older series like that have limited parts availability.

H9

Well, the amp is what is out.. I mean, shouldnt any electronics repair shop be able to fix an amp ? Probably a cap is blown.. Or do electronics shops nowadays only replace whole boards and not fix by soldering new parts?

[F1nut]

More than caps in those amps. If it is something like an obsolete output device, you'll be SOL.

[comfortablycurt]

2B's no contest unless you are only for HT duty, then the RT3000p

H9

+1

It's hard to beat the SDA's for musicality.

The RT3000P's could have a bit of an edge for HT though. The built in subs would be beneficial for LFE tracks, and the slightly brighter, more forward sounding tweeter would likely help to provide a more realistic theater experience.

If you need a speaker to pull both music and HT duty, I'd take the 2B's without question.

[bluecomet]

If you are hungry for bass, I would move up to SRS 3.1tl's. They have a surprisingly big bass sound for a medium size speaker. If you want bad ass bass then I would find a set of SRS 2's or the original SRS speakers. You will also gain a much wider soundstage. I agree with everyone else, keep your SDA 2B's and upgrade them. If you have your heart set on a HT main speaker with a powered bass, I would get a Lsi 25. I love my Lsi HT setup. The powered bass plus the awesome tweet in the Lsi series can be stunning.

[amulford]

I have both of them, too. And what everyone is saying is right. The 2b's are much more musical, while the 3000p's are killer for HT.

Just my humble opinion...

[PolkMaster1]

Do the TL mod to your 2B's and see if you can get a set of Larry's rings. You can thank us later.

I wish I could get Larrys rings and tweeter brackets...

[kchilaka]

I have both of them, too. And what everyone is saying is right. The 2b's are much more musical, while the 3000p's are killer for HT.

Just my humble opinion...

I let the RT3000p go. I guess it was too much work driving 60 miles and then trying to fix a vintage amp. The seller was letting them go for $150. They are sold now. Hopefully a polkie bought them and fixed them up.

On the other hand I did buy the Mission 753 Speakers. The seller sold me his entire 5.1 setup for a good price. Two 753 floorstanders, two 751 bookshelfs, an exquisite looking KEF q10c center channel and a Rabos enabled Infinity alpha 1200s 12pm sub. I am going to keep the SDA2bs for two channel stuff.
Btw the build quality on the missions is outstanding. The tiny floorstanders weigh a ton(55lbs) and have very nice veneer. In fact build quality is best i have owned. They sound nice too(so far). An even smooth sound. Lowend is nothing like the SDA2bs and the imaging can't compare but the tone and timbre feels high end. Very happy so far butthese are initial impressions. Will update after I have had a few days to play with them.

[newrival]

man, I wish you had said you were getting them for that cheap! you could've easily doubled your money parting them out.

Anyways, Im glad to hear about your new HT setup! It sounds very promising, hope you enjoy it. Also glad to hear you kept the 2b's for the dedicated 2ch. A wise move.

I look forward to your update after some quality time with the new setup. Congrats!

[leroyjr1]

I let the RT3000p go. I guess it was too much work driving 60 miles and then trying to fix a vintage amp. The seller was letting them go for $150. They are sold now. Hopefully a polkie bought them and fixed them up.

On the other hand I did buy the Mission 753 Speakers. The seller sold me his entire 5.1 setup for a good price. Two 753 floorstanders, two 751 bookshelfs, an exquisite looking KEF q10c center channel and a Rabos enabled Infinity alpha 1200s 12pm sub. I am going to keep the SDA2bs for two channel stuff.
Btw the build quality on the missions is outstanding. The tiny floorstanders weigh a ton(55lbs) and have very nice veneer. In fact build quality is best i have owned. They sound nice too(so far). An even smooth sound. Lowend is nothing like the SDA2bs and the imaging can't compare but the tone and timbre feels high end. Very happy so far butthese are initial impressions. Will update after I have had a few days to play with them.


$150 was a steal. Should've bought them.

[dorokusai]

I really like Mission loudspeakers, very nice 2ch loudspeaker with a better midrange and high end than the stock SDA. That setup, aside from the Infinity subwoofer, sounds fantastic. I would have jumped on that as well, good work.

Avoid any vintage Polk powered loudspeakers like the RT3000p, for example, if you want any Polk Audio support. The amplifiers are unsupported, parts are almost non-existent, beyond caps and stuff guys....and they're simply a scary investment from my perspective.

[kchilaka]

$150 was a steal. Should've bought them.

Yeah. It was tough to leave them. It was actually a full 5 channel setup with the rt3000p as the fronts.. I sure could have made a couple of hundred parting them out .But the distance, the snow, and the fact that I was purely bying them to repair-flip. Just thought it was someones opportunity, not mine.

[kchilaka]

I really like Mission loudspeakers, very nice 2ch loudspeaker with a better midrange and high end than the stock SDA. That setup, aside from the Infinity subwoofer, sounds fantastic. I would have jumped on that as well, good work.

Avoid any vintage Polk powered loudspeakers like the RT3000p, for example, if you want any Polk Audio support. The amplifiers are unsupported, parts are almost non-existent, beyond caps and stuff guys....and they're simply a scary investment from my perspective.

The infinity sub is definitely not audiophile quality.But it does have the RABOS equilization capability which does put it on a step above the average budget sub. That and it has a bigger amp (500w rms) than my titanic.. Not pushed it that much yet but it sounds sorta ok..

[newrival]

Yeah. It was tough to leave them. It was actually a full 5 channel setup with the rt3000p as the fronts.. I sure could have made a couple of hundred parting them out .But the distance, the snow, and the fact that I was purely bying them to repair-flip. Just thought it was someones opportunity, not mine.

Are you saying that the whole RT5000p 5ch system (of which the RT3000p were the fronts) was going for $150 :eek::eek::eek:

Oh man. The center channel alone sells for over $600.

But I understand you passing it up. Sounds like you got a good deal on the missions. I've never heard them before, but I've heard good things. Are those the dipole towers?

[kchilaka]

Are you saying that the whole RT5000p 5ch system (of which the RT3000p were the fronts) was going for $150 :eek::eek::eek:

Oh man. The center channel alone sells for over $600.

But I understand you passing it up. Sounds like you got a good deal on the missions. I've never heard them before, but I've heard good things. Are those the dipole towers?
Not, not dipole towers. They are a 5-driver 2-way system. Here is what they look like..

http://www.le-homecinema.com/installations/images/installs/1192871907avant_mission_753.jpg

[newrival]

They look nice. I like the beveled edges.

What kind of guitar is that trying to get into the shot :wink:

[kchilaka]

They look nice. I like the beveled edges.

What kind of guitar is that trying to get into the shot :wink:

Thats a pic I found on the net. Mine is identical..Same color.

[kchilaka]

Are you saying that the whole RT5000p 5ch system (of which the RT3000p were the fronts) was going for $150 :eek::eek::eek:

Oh man. The center channel alone sells for over $600.

But I understand you passing it up. Sounds like you got a good deal on the missions. I've never heard them before, but I've heard good things. Are those the dipole towers?

The center channel is not the CS1000p but the CS300p. After seeing your posts I contacted the seller and apparently they are available. So I am going to pick the set up today afternoon. Two RT3000p towers, a cs300p , one rear surround (model unknown). Oh well, hopefuly I can sell them to make a small amount and that can finance my upgrade from my SDA2b to an SDA3.1tl or SDA2.3TL .

[kchilaka]

The center channel is not the CS1000p but the CS300p. After seeing your posts I contacted the seller and apparently they are available. So I am going to pick the set up today afternoon. Two RT3000p towers, a cs300p , one rear surround (model unknown). Oh well, hopefuly I can sell them to make a small amount and that can finance my upgrade from my SDA2b to an SDA3.1tl or SDA2.3TL .

So I picked the RT3000p up. Came with a center channel (cs300p) and one bookshelf which has a single 6.5 driver and tweeter. Now to see how the amp can be fixed. The sub-units are real heavy. A ton of huff and puff to move them to the basement.

[civilian]

I kicked myself years ago for not buying a single RT3000p, as now I'd love it for a center speaker.
I even wish I'd bought a single bottom half (also years ago) as I think it would go well with my CS400

[newrival]

I kicked myself years ago for not buying a single RT3000p, as now I'd love it for a center speaker.
I even wish I'd bought a single bottom half (also years ago) as I think it would go well with my CS400

Good idea. Not to mention it would make a nice stand for the center :wink:

[leroyjr1]

Hopefully a 5000p setup will pop up close to me. Always wanted to get my ears on that setup.


What's the condition of the set you just pick up? Amps working? Subs in good condition?
I think you should slowly get it fixed and try to find the proper center and surrounds.

[dpowell]

So I picked the RT3000p up. Came with a center channel (cs300p) and one bookshelf which has a single 6.5 driver and tweeter. Now to see how the amp can be fixed. The sub-units are real heavy. A ton of huff and puff to move them to the basement.

If it ends up being the caps (which was the case when both of my RT3000P sub amps died on separate occasions) Polk still sells them and you get a nice discount when you tell them you're a member of Club Polk. $150 is a steal. Enjoy them (although everyone who says the SDA's are better for music are right). I wouldn't listen to music on the RT3000's after getting my SDA's. Too devoid of life.

[kchilaka]

Hopefully a 5000p setup will pop up close to me. Always wanted to get my ears on that setup.


What's the condition of the set you just pick up? Amps working? Subs in good condition?
I think you should slowly get it fixed and try to find the proper center and surrounds.

Alright. Here is what I picked up. One pair Rt3000p towers. One sub working, one not working. The cab and drivers seem to be fine. The amp seems to be out on one. I havent played with it yet. The two top halfs are mint. They seem identical to the RT55i but they are labelled as RT3000p. I wonder if anyone knows if these are different in anyway from an RT55i. All black finish. I also picked up a CS300 center which seems like it would pair well with these towers. The seller had two surrounds which are polk RT5 but he had lost one so I got only one of them. Seller promised to look for the other one and contact me if he finds the other one.

[kchilaka]

Alright. Here is what I picked up. One pair Rt3000p towers. One sub working, one not working. The cab and drivers seem to be fine. The amp seems to be out on one. I havent played with it yet. The two top halfs are mint. They seem identical to the RT55i but they are labelled as RT3000p. I wonder if anyone knows if these are different in anyway from an RT55i. All black finish. I also picked up a CS300 center which seems like it would pair well with these towers. The seller had two surrounds which are polk RT5 but he had lost one so I got only one of them. Seller promised to look for the other one and contact me if he finds the other one.

I figured out the difference between the RT55i and the Rt3000p top halfs. The top halfs of the RT3000p have an 80hz high-pass filter built in whereas the RT55i does not. Which makes sense, this sends the low-end to the powered units where as the RT55i has an F3 of 47hz (impressive). Freeing up the top halfs from producing the mid-bass should improve the performance of the 6.5 drivers..

[newrival]

great find on these.

Here is the manual on these speakers that offer cabling options, etc: http://www.polkaudio.com/downloads/manuals/home/RT3000pManual.pdf

[leroyjr1]

great find on these.

Here is the manual on these speakers that offer cabling options, etc: http://www.polkaudio.com/downloads/manuals/home/RT3000pManual.pdf


How do you have yours hooked up?

[newrival]

I used the recommended method of coming from the amp to the sub high-level input then out to the top speaker with a 24" cable into the inputs and utilizing the jumper plates. passive xover set just below recommended 80Hz. Switch set to music (instead of +3db for movies) and sub level set at about 40%.

This gave me the best integration with my 15" LFE sub

[kchilaka]

I used the recommended method of coming from the amp to the sub high-level input then out to the top speaker with a 24" cable into the inputs and utilizing the jumper plates. passive xover set just below recommended 80Hz. Switch set to music (instead of +3db for movies) and sub level set at about 40%.

This gave me the best integration with my 15" LFE sub

Alright. I got a pleasant surprise when I hooked them up. Both the subs work !! Dont know what the seller was about. Perhaps there is one combination of inputs that does not work. The way I have them hooked up is as follows. I have set my front speakers to large on my receiver. I am using the preamp-outputs on my receiver to connect to the low-level inputs of the RT3000p subwoofer. The speaker outs on my receiver go directly to the top speakers. This way I get stereo subs. The above posted hookup method will also get stereo subs.
The user manual of my receiver (Yamaha RX-V1800) states not to use the speaker outs and pre-amp outputs at the same time (not sure why) so going forward I will just probably use the speaker outs to connect to the high-level inputs on the rt3000p subs.
Now, as to the sound quality, the highs and mids sound very similar to the SDA2 except that the tweeter seems to be smoother. The voicing seems similar to the SDA2 and rather unlike the Mission 753s. Now to the part that blows me away, the 4-8 inch subwoofers produce high quality bass. Very musical unlike other 12 or 15 inch subs I have heard. The Infinity Alpha 1200s and the Dayton titanic 15" which I used to have both produced plenty of slam but they were not musical. The drivers seemed to be large and not articulate. The RT3000p subs on the other hand fall right in between the sound of a dedicated 12 or 15 inch sub and the passive radiator bass of the SDA-2b. Substantially more weight than the SDA2s and almost as musical. Very impressive. I think I understand the appeal of the powered towers now.

Now I unexpectedly have three sets of working speakers. The SDA2s, the Rt3000p and the Mission 753. I want to pare it down to two sets and I will probably take a week or two to decide what to do.. In the meantime, I am going to put on some movies that will stress these subs to see what they can do.. U571 here I come...

Here is a picture of the towers hooked up next to my SDA2s.
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j70/kchilaka/a05dfb98.jpg

[newrival]

WOW! thats awesome! You got one helluva deal!!!! You will still want to use a larger dedicated LFE sub to handle the 40Hz an lower range. Well, at least I do. The subs are way musical like you said, but explossions arent the same. You need something that can load the room with pure force and that will dig into the 16Hz range. :D

[kchilaka]

WOW! thats awesome! You got one helluva deal!!!! You will still want to use a larger dedicated LFE sub to handle the 40Hz an lower range. Well, at least I do. The subs are way musical like you said, but explossions arent the same. You need something that can load the room with pure force and that will dig into the 16Hz range. :D

16 hz?? What kind of monster sub are you running?

[newrival]

The same monster sub you sold!

Dayton Titanic mkIII :D

[newrival]

It's beyond it's F3 at that point but its still making sound. I think. I dno't hear it but I can sure FEEL it. hahaha

[kchilaka]

It's well beyond it's F3 at that point but its still making sound. hahaha

Well, when I had it, I found that it tapered off starting at 24-25hz. I cant hear much below that anyway but I could feel stuff rattling around the house :)

I cant imagine how one of these SVS Pb12 ultra/4 passive subs sound..

[halo71]

Those Missions look pretty sexy! :cool: Would love to get my ears on a pair.

[newrival]

Well, when I had it, I found that it tapered off starting at 24-25hz. I cant hear much below that anyway but I could feel stuff rattling around the house :)

I cant imagine how one of these SVS Pb12 ultra/4 passive subs sound..

Yeah it all depends on how your box is tuned. Like I said it's beyond it's F3 for sure, so it is rolled off, but it reaches it. Just not s loud as it would If the box were tuned much lower (I believe its tuned to 26 or 27Hz.

I'm not super knowledgeable about subs, but my friend helped me make my enclosures. In the future I'd like to make a new bipolar sub cab for 2 15"s :biggrin:

[cincycat13]

Congrats! I also have the RT3000p and some 2Bs. I haven't figured out which I will use more so I have kept them both. Please post your listening opinions. I actually find the RTs are awsome with rock and country when given some volume.

[kchilaka]

Congrats! I also have the RT3000p and some 2Bs. I haven't figured out which I will use more so I have kept them both. Please post your listening opinions. I actually find the RTs are awsome with rock and country when given some volume.

I certainly would like to hear more about your experience with both of them. The more I listen to the RT3000p, I realize that the voicing/timbre of these are slightly different from the SDA2. The different tweeter does stand out. It is less in your face than the sda2. On the other hand, I think the SDA2 resolves a tad more detail in the highs as well as the mids. But that could be a result of the more upfront tweeter.
As for the imaging, I might not be getting the most of the SDA2s because of my room layout(they are along the short wall) but the RT3000p do sound pretty darn good. I havent a/b 'd them yet critically but those are my current impressions.
About the low-end, the more I listen to the RT3000p, the more I am impressed with the quality of the dual-8 subwoofers. There is just so much low-end detail. Stuff that would sound like a drone or one note on a larger-driver sub resolves itself on the RT3000p. I don't know why manufacturers don't make dual-8 subs with good drivers and amplification. Might be light for HT use but they are perfect for Music..

[cincycat13]

I find the RT3000p towers very easy to listen to. I have them connected to an Onkyo 876 AVR with a CS400 center. The AVR is not a good as my seperates, but its no slouch either when I start to get some volume through them. I actually have the subs turned down pretty low, but I have never found them muddy for music, or lacking in HT. I get a true wall of sound. I put them where I had some Monitor 7Bs with peerless and Carver front end that I got from Ricardo. Not near as musical for me as those, but way better for HT.

I never really got to do an A/B due to space, but I hear much more detail and separation with the 2Bs. I have some RDO194 to try, but still have stock tweets installed. When I manage personal time I pick the SDA over the RT for music, but I don't find the RT disappointing when used for music. I am glad I don't yet have to choose a double duty set up.

As I have read here, and apples and oranges comparison of speaker designed for 2 different purposes. I really like the 3000 towers as a compromise for double duty requirements.

[tonyb]

Might sound better now that you can take that X-mas tree down in that small room.:smile:

[cincycat13]

Might sound better now that you can take that X-mas tree down in that small room.:smile:

http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=109724&page=2

LMAO tony. There is no doubt. My wife doesn't complain when I try new audio stuff, so I try not to complain when her home design kills anything that would resemble an ideal audio layout.

[kchilaka]

Those Missions look pretty sexy! :cool: Would love to get my ears on a pair.

They actually sound pretty nice. Better than I was expecting. Definitely needs a sub though..

[kchilaka]

WOW! thats awesome! You got one helluva deal!!!! You will still want to use a larger dedicated LFE sub to handle the 40Hz an lower range. Well, at least I do. The subs are way musical like you said, but explossions arent the same. You need something that can load the room with pure force and that will dig into the 16Hz range. :D

Ok so I finally found a problem. I tested all possible functionality of the two amps and I found one thing wrong with it. On one of the amps, the auto turn-on circuitry does not work. The amp power switch has three modes.
1. On
2. Off
3. Auto-On

When set to On, the amp works fine. When set to auto-on, the amp does not turn on when music is played. So probably some auto sensing circuitry is not functional. I have contacted Polk for the schematics to see if I can figure out what is going on. If I cant, I am going to send it into polk to get it fixed..

[newrival]

What??? are you kidding me? Well they're obviously not worth keeping. Just send them to me so I can dispose of them properly for you :wink: :biggrin:

I bet they'll be able to get it worked out for you

[kchilaka]

What??? are you kidding me? Well they're obviously not worth keeping. Just send them to me so I can dispose of them properly for you :wink: :biggrin:

I bet they'll be able to get it worked out for you

:) Well. I did put them up for sale with the description of the Auto-On problem. IF no one wants them, then I will send it to Polk for repair.

[civilian]

:) Well. I did put them up for sale with the description of the Auto-On problem.

I don't believe you but where?

[kchilaka]

I don't believe you but where?

Craigslist.. in the Denver Area..and on Audiogon

[cincycat13]

I believe him. I searched last night and saw them in CO zip code on the 'gon... Too far for me.