Carver TFM-45

[TroyD]

Well, got it in the mail yesterday (another great find)....

After spending about 8 (mostly) uninterupted hours of listening to this amp, I'm just LOVING this amp. Definately warmer than the others. Now, I'm not saying any of the others sound bad by any stretch of the imagination, but this one sounds more like a tube amp. This would make sense as it is voiced after Bob's own Silver Seven tube mono amps.

Previously, I've been using a pair of Carver m400a's bridged for mono operation on the Amazings. Now, I'll have to do some more testing as it is very possible I'm just having the whole 'new toy' thing but right now, I thinking, I've found THE amp for the Amazings.

Obviously, I'll have more to say later but I just thought I'd share...

Oh, and did I mention that I just LOVE V/U meters???

BDT

[RuSsMaN]

Good to hear Troy.

There has a be a HUGE weight difference, between it and the 400's. Massive power supply I bet.

Cheers,
Russ

[TroyD]

I would say that both m400's don't weigh half what the 45 weighs.

Carver hoardin' BDT

[faster100]

how bout them cubes troy?? LOL wanna sell em

[dorokusai]

That is a very nice choice for power. It was my first pick, but I could not get the money together fast enough....thus Parasound became my Audiogon pimp.

[TroyD]

M400a's? Sell? Nope. Not a chance.

A man has GOT to have spares you know. Shoot, an amp goes down and I can swap amps out like a pit crew changing a tire at the Indy 500.

If you knew what the I paid for the TFM-45, you would cry. ;)

BDT

[RuSsMaN]

Troy, feel free to divulge the price - but you damn well better not reveal the source.

I will *personally* beat you to a bloody pulp.

So on another note, how much total carver wattage you got in the cottage? How about a break-down of what Carver gear you own (so I can prepare for my smash-n-grab).

Cheers,
Russ

[gidrah]

That review sounds much like the impressions I got from my Soundcraftsman. I wonder how they would compare.:D

[TroyD]

Originally posted by gidrah
That review sounds much like the impressions I got from my Soundcraftsman. I wonder how they would compare.:D

Maybe we will find out....;)

LESS than a hundred bones.....

Lesse (cipher cipher) if I count the M400's as bridged monos.......I got 1965 wpc of Carver power....

m200t - 100wpc
m0.5t - 140wpc
m1.5t - 350wpc
(2) m400a's - 500wpc ea mono
TFM-45 - 375 wpc

BDT

[Tour2ma]

Gee golly... 1965???? :eek: :rolleyes: ;) :) :D :cool:

[RuSsMaN]

1/3rd of that WAS mine. Dammit. ;)

Actually, counting the 400's bridged, and 2 x ch on the rest...

He actually has 2930 watts - not peak mind you, TWO THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED THIRTY WATTS *CONTINUOUS*....

effer....

[Tour2ma]

Troy,

Hopefully fuel consumption calcs are NOT part of your duties...

I think Russ just won an amp of his choice and you need some remedial cypherin'...

[TroyD]

100+140+350+500+500+375 = 1965 WATTS PER CHANNEL. Non post readin' mofos.

Russ already got his component of choice on the house. A broke dick Hafler preamp.


BDT

[Tour2ma]

Well, if it's wpc you're tabulating, how do you get to count both bridged 400's...

I mean, you only use one per channel... don't you? :p

...or are you hexa-amping????

[TroyD]

Easy, since, it's running in MONO (meaning ONE) channel at 500 per and I have TWO of them.....you see my logic here? ;)

Hey you count it how you like and I'll continue to just be a moron.

They don't call me Big Dumb for nothin'

BDT

[RuSsMaN]

Well, we don't call you big dumb for nothing.

All amp channels (2 per amp) except for the 400's, count them at 500 each. Did Wendi send you out the door this morning without your helmet again?

Cheers,
Rooster

[TroyD]

DING! WIRES RUN!

WOULD YOU LIKE A B&K WITH THAT? WOULD YOU LIKE A B&K WITH THAT?


BDT

[Tour2ma]

ROFLMAO.................................

[TroyD]

Thank You.....Thank You.....I'll be here all weekend. You've been a great crowd.

Remember to tip your waitresses and bartenders.

BDT

[RuSsMaN]

Obviously Big Dumb Dion is not able to discern the difference in someone laughing WITH you, and someone laughing AT you.

Badda-Bing!!!

Cheers,
Rooster

[TroyD]

You mean you actually buy that crap, 'hey, we are laughing WITH you'?? They are ALWAYS laughing at you.

Whatever gets you through the day, brocheese.

BDT

[RuSsMaN]

Does Troy actually have more Carver than Mr. Grand? (not discounting Tour... for he is truely king of all things Carver - but for us common men - humor us already)

Holy fuckin shit...

Who'da thought we'd see the day?

Cheers,
Rooster

[TroyD]

I can only say that I am truly the benefactor of the generosity of others......

BDT

[VR3]

Not trying to derail here...

Thank ya Russ for the new sig line. Priceless stuff.

Mr. Grand has like a never ending closet of stuff, how can anyone have more of anything than him? Seems almost impossible.

[RuSsMaN]

Cool! ;)

Cheers,
Rooster

[George Grand]

You're fuckin "A" right about that Sid, but it's fun to watch them try. Cowgirls.

George Grand (of the Jersey Grand's)

[TroyD]

One can only aspire.......as I've said many times, Mr. Grand is the one who really introduced me to Carver gear. There is no way I could hope compete with him. Plus he is the ultimate babe magnet. The lovely Wendi sleeps with an 8x10 glossy under her pillow.

Don't let George kid you, I'm not even a blip on his radar screen

BDT

[Tour2ma]

Can try to complete with GG's closet, but not his memory bank. He's the "Forest Gump" of Club Polk, popping up at events throughout audio history.

Love Uncle George's Storytime....

[Ceruleance]

If you are counting things bridged mono i have exactly 3000 watts of Carver power. suck it troy :p


(in the nicest way possible)

You win when it comes to deals though, <$100? ridiculous.

[TroyD]

What you sitting on there, cochese?

I'm pretty happy with my 2ch rig:

Carver Amazings - 500
TFM-45 - 97.50
Carver C-1 - 150
AMC CD8b - 150

Signal Cable Cable IC's / MIT Term4's - 100 or so....

Not bad for less than a Grand (no pun intended), eh?

BDT

[George Grand]

3,407 watts of Carver amp power alone. 1,250 unused. Should I count the Onkyo's and Adcom's too?

Paid $125 for a brand new TFM-35 and $119 for a brand new C-11.

And somebody gave me a pair of Polk Monitor 10B's the other day. Original boxes and all manuals.

Anthony Rome

[Tour2ma]

Ah the competitive spirit.... but if we must.

Do I get to count my Sunfires?

[Ceruleance]

I've got:

M-500t (x2) 700 mono
M-1.0t (x1) 1000 mono (at least thats what I thought it was, right?)
M-200t (x2) 300 mono

I get to count them bridged because I could in theory make a 5.1 system with them all in mono, which would be ridiculous.


My M-200t's have a higher noise floor when I use them as a mono pair, same thing with your 400's? I use one bridged for my center and it doesn't bother me, but I don't like the high noise floor when they are a stereo pair.

*I think sunfire counts, what's the breakdown?

[nadams]

Wow.... that's a lot of power. I don't have any Carver stuff, but I think I can still win the title for "Least amount of total RMS wattage". Woohoo!

[dan t]

Well I have a 40WPC 2 channel JVC Receiver.

Anyone care to top that?


Dan

[Tour2ma]

Read it and weep, dan t...

Heathkit AA-15 Integrated amp.... 50 wpc "ihf" with one channel dead...

[dan t]

Heathkit AA-15 Integrated amp.... 50 wpc "ihf" with one channel dead...

Damn, you've got me beat man.

[VR3]

Dosn't some dude on here own that 8 watt tube amp? I think that will beat anyone.

RS156 (or w/e)'s Mom has like a 1.5 watt x2 shelf system???

[dan t]

RS156 (or w/e)'s Mom has like a 1.5 watt x2 shelf system???

Sorry dude, those Bose systems don't count here.. :o


Dan

[VR3]

8 watt tube amp counts though! I believe Organ has one???

[organ]

Not that low:), 35w/ch. But I hear it was hyped and it's more like 25w/ch.

Believe it or not, some people pay thousands of $$$ for only 2 watts. These are the SET(Single Ended Triode) tube amps.

Maurice

[gidrah]

I believe it's Jstas. I made the suggestion and posted the link, but forgot who it was for.

I'm going to be building some 25 watt SS monos as soon as my life slows down a little.

[Tour2ma]

Yup, that was the spec for his little ASL tube amp....

[nadams]

Well, if you want lowest wattage for a single amp, I'm currently running a Pioneer SX-450 (15 WPC) in my bedroom. Then it's the Marantz 15 WPC in the basement, another Marantz (25wpc) in the bedroom, and my JVC 100wpc in the living room. :D

Edit- Okay, so it's not _the_ lowest, but it's still pretty darn low... Sounds good to me, though :-D

[organ]

Who has the ASL Wave8? I'd like some info please. I'm still thinking about that little amp. But right now I want to focus on getting the HT up and running again. Getting an Epson projector, another amp and finally a cheap receiver with pre outs.

Since we're talking about lowest power now, how about my Sony Discman. I'd kill all of you with mW of power:D.

Maurice

[Tour2ma]

My bad organ...

Jstas built the Antique Electronics Supply K-502 Stereo Amplifier...

[Bamper]

The price i paid for my carver tfm-45 amp and c-11 pre amp was 100 bucks, my brothers ex hit em with a baceball bat and I fixed it and installed 3 cooling fans over the massive capasitors which are about 2 inches in diameter and 6 inchs long. the tfm-45 can push 1000 watts mono into 2ohm and it will push 500 wat rms in 4 ohm and the 375 the guy on the other page was for 8ohm. atm I have custom built speakers each box has 2, 8inch 800(peak 400rms) watt dvc with 2 350watt tweeters. plus a 12inch explode on each channel. It will push them all day long but once i crank it after about 30 min heat sensor kicks in and shuts off. i wanna get another tfm-45 one for each box mono bridged. plus the c-11 has 2 amp outs.

[TroyD]

wow, a post brought back from the DEAD!

BDT

[avguytx]

That's just what I was thinking...wow. Someone must have been googling some stuff!

[Ricardo]

But his tfm-45 will beat anything; it has capasitors!!!

[Ron Temple]

Hell, I'd drop a C note for a 45 this very minute since they now go for north of $500.

[TroyD]

I actually bought two of them at that price from the same place.

Sick. Man, those were great amps. Probably my fave solid state amps in terms of bang/buck.

BDT

[ohskigod]

Christ, I wish I paid 100 for my TFM45, those things are still priced pretty high these days.

I got the TFM45 in the theater and a 4.0 just chillin as a spare.

[TroyD]

I just dipped my toe back in the Carver amp waters....got a VERY sweat steal on a TFM-24.....and was doing a little searching from back in the Carver hoarding days.

Man, I loved those amps. The TFM-45/42/4.0 was the sweet spot. Never cared for the Silver 9t's....

BDT

[Fongolio]

You guys are killing me with these prices. Up here in Canada I paid $300.00 for my TFM-25 and then when it blew an output transistor another $175.00 to have it fixed. Mind you it was upgraded to Carver service bulletin spec and brought to better than brand new. I'm still happy. But $97.50 for a TFM-45...you make me cry.

[TroyD]

It was actually 2, 97.50 each......they were good scores.

BDT

[Polkersince85]

There are still a few Carvers in use around here. With the update service from Bob and Rita, they may make another decade in the market.