Squeezebox Touch-tips, tricks & tweaks

[steveinaz]

Logitec obviously does not know we are impatient listeners. LOL.

[dkg999]

I just tell LMS to rescan as I put away the last CD of the stack that I just ripped to the server.

[Drenis]

Re-scanning after adding music has to be done. There's no auto scan that I'm aware of. A scan for "new or changed music" should only take less than a minute. The "Clear and re-scan" takes a lot longer. You only need to do the latter on rare occasions.

Sounds like the app you're using is flawed.

Others have debated with me on this--but I still believe that the music being read from a Hard Drive sounds smoother than from a CD player. I believe it has to do with the method of reading the data....

Thanks. Wasn't sure if there was an option to automatically monitor and update without having to re-scan.


You always have to rescan after adding new music to your database. How does SQB know you added music? Just because you rip it to the HD, doesn't mean SQB knows it's there. The ripping has nothing to do with the SQB so you have to "tell" the software (by asking it to scan) there is new music added. Although the newer version of the software may have an auto feature, I'm not sure though.

Scan for new music not the entire database scan. As Steve said it should take less than a couple minutes.

:rolleyes: I don't think my question merited a cheap shot... your statement is cheeky. But thanks for the (unnecessarily long) answer...

[heiney9]

I wasn't being cheeky at all, just throwing some logic out there. Loosen up, and don't think everything is directed to be a personal shot at you.

[nspindel]

I mentioned this earlier, but if you know where you've put the music that you've added, one alternative to scanning is just browse to it directly via music folder. As soon as you browse into music that it's never seen before, it immediately adds the entire folder to the library.

[Drenis]

I wasn't being cheeky at all, just throwing some logic out there. Loosen up, and don't think everything is directed to be a personal shot at you.

*delete*

Maybe I'm just having a bad day...

[heiney9]

It's all good Andre :smile:

Glad you are enjoying the SQB.

H9

[coolsax]

Hey guys had an issue with my sbt this morning. Had been working perfectly last night and then when I tried it this morning, it couldn't read any of my library. Tried everything I could think of. Rebooted the touch itself rebooted the pc I'm running Logitech server from and also rebooting the server itself. None of it worked. And when I rescanned library in Lms the tracks went to zero. Finally I just reinstalled Lms and at least it's recognizing the server and is rescanning the music. Hopefully it will work when done scanning. Anyone else have this issue before?

[coolsax]

Thankfully working now.

[dragon1952]

I downloaded a Luther Vandross mp3 from Amazon and evidently you get the album art too. For some reason the Luther Vandross album art shows up for half of my library. It won't start out that way...I'll have the correct art but at some point it changes to the Luther art :^ / Tried rescanning several times....haven't tried re-installing.

[sandworms]

I was thinking of a PS upgrade and searching this thread I can't find anything on the Pangea ps, is this worth consideration or a waste of money

[Drenis]

I have had exp. with other extended supplies & the differences are only minimal, unless you can find someone to build one with a tremendous capacity it would be costly & prob not worth it

:evil: leave now troll

[mdaudioguy]

Well, that ought to get you banned real quick... bye-bye!

[polkfarmboy]

:evil: leave now troll

Hey Drenis I hope you were not serious to beek as this was his first post and you call him a troll ? That's just not the way we conduct ouselfs infront of new members by insulting them ? Way outa line Budd

Anyways hi beek my name is projectormovielover on the Martin Logan forum and I think I posted a link to this thread. When you bought your sqeezbox the other week I specifically linked this thread and told you that if you have any questions then dont hesitate to sign up because the guys here are a great bunch and always willing to help lol. That still holds true if you will stick around and get to know members by looking past a few

Everyone I just wana say that beek is true gent and we should welcome him

[polkfarmboy]

It seems in the time I posted my response a fight has broken out :eek:

[FTGV]

:evil: leave now trollOk I must ask 'how did you know from one post?

[polkfarmboy]

Ok I must ask 'how did you know from one post?

He didn't know... he was just being a jerk head big dummy boo boo bum bum face

[dragon1952]

Whether or not you will benefit from a P/S upgrade kind of depends on the rest of your system and your listening habits. Regardless, the improvement is subjective and relative to what you think is too much to spend. To many of us, any improvement is worth it if we can afford it. I'm using a Welborne Labs, and I know a few of us here use that or the CI Audio. Not sure about Pangea. I saw this one the other day also and wondered if anyone had any knowledge of it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item45feb912ea&item=300626285290&nma=true&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&si=6a2W4e3RdbUBo5iZzrSgBchJQxo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

[anonymouse]

[QUOTE=dragon1952]Not sure about Pangea. I saw this one the other day also and wondered if anyone had any knowledge of it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...vip=true&rt=nc[QUOTE]

No direct experience, but the component listing within the PS is pretty garden variety. Not much in there that should justify the asking price. It has a nice looking case though.

[heiney9]

I was thinking of a PS upgrade and searching this thread I can't find anything on the Pangea ps, is this worth consideration or a waste of money

In my experience an external PS has made a difference and I recommend them over the walwart. Pangea has a good rep and all the external linear PS's I've seen for the SQB have been similar with similar parts. I can't imagine the Pangea to be much different.

H9

[Drenis]

Ok I must ask 'how did you know from one post?

I didn't. I assumed this user was another of those robot accounts that spam away. I guess I felt the nature of the post somewhat flagged me. Regardless, I made an error in judgement. I can apologize for that. However, the backlash and response was uncalled for. Nice to see that cleaned up... even the "visitor note" left on my profile was inappropriate.


He didn't know... he was just being a jerk head big dummy boo boo bum bum face

For once :razz:, you're right. I was a bit of a jerk.

[steveinaz]

I thought Canadians were suppose to be friendly....:cheesygrin::wink:

It's all good man.

[Drenis]

I thought Canadians were suppose to be friendly....:cheesygrin::wink:

It's all good man.

Our tag line on our license plates is "Friendly Manitoba". Even the best of us make mistakes. Canada is known for peace keeping and I'm trying to keep the peace. :razz:

[polkatese]

You know, one new habit that I picked up ever since I got my SQBT is to stream MOG higher rez ($9.99) jazz, set the multi-stereo simulation (on the 7.1 channels). It must be just me, but I enjoy it very much..it gives me inner peace somehow. :smile:

[sandworms]

In my experience an external PS has made a difference and I recommend them over the walwart. Pangea has a good rep and all the external linear PS's I've seen for the SQB have been similar with similar parts. I can't imagine the Pangea to be much different.

H9
Thanks for the input guys, even though I thought I was being called a troll for a minute! for $100 seems worth a shot

[dragon1952]

I was thinking of a PS upgrade and searching this thread I can't find anything on the Pangea ps, is this worth consideration or a waste of money

Actually, looking at that Pangea, the Squeezebox is not one of the supported devices.

[steveinaz]

Thanks for the input guys, even though I thought I was being called a troll for a minute! for $100 seems worth a shot

Given the squeezebox's performance, I think it's worthy of the PS upgrade.

[sandworms]

[QUOTE=dragon1952;1755521]Actually, looking at that Pangea, the Squeezebox is not one of the supported devices.[/QUOTE
Damn I'm retarded, got confused with my dacmagic and the sbt, even though I was looking at both ps upgrades. So $100 won't get me a sbt ps upgrade, but it will for my dac http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=PGP100, now I need to look at the welborne or comparable, like scarecrow said, if I only had a brain

[steveinaz]

I use the Channel Island PS for my Touch. I think it was $249??

[dragon1952]

Squeezebox Touch .... new in box $199 on the 'Gon..... better hurry.
http://app.audiogon.com/listings/logictech-squeezebox-touch-new-sealed-in-box

[kappclark]

I have SBS and use Media Monkey to manage my growing collection...


Whatever platform you choose, try to be consistent...

I just love SBS and would never change...

[Waynesize]

So, having decided that I will be getting a Squeezebox Touch, I am re-ripping my CDs to FLAC. I am using dBpoweramp. Like it so far. Rips are very fast. Storing on a 2 TB WD drive. Any suggestions as to settings, especially encoder settings? Is Lossless Uncompressed the way to go?

[anonymouse]

So, having decided that I will be getting a Squeezebox Touch, I am re-ripping my CDs to FLAC. I am using dBpoweramp. Like it so far. Rips are very fast. Storing on a 2 TB WD drive. Any suggestions as to settings, especially encoder settings? Is Lossless Uncompressed the way to go?

FLAC is lossless. There will be no audible difference between .wav, .flac or any other lossless formats. If its lossless, you essentially have the same original bitstream being recreated when its played.

[doctor r]

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[Waynesize]

Got my Squeezebox Touch today! Just got it up and running. All I can say is "What was I waiting for?" this thing is so cool. Thanks to those that have posted in this thread. I learned a lot before jumping in. Now, on to some listening!

[tonyb]

Got my Squeezebox Touch today! Just got it up and running. All I can say is "What was I waiting for?" this thing is so cool.

Yep, thats the usual response when someone first experiences a SB or a Sonos. Congrats man, glad your diggin' it. Now pack all those cd cases away for good. I really recommend Rhapsody too for the 10 bucks a month. Enjoy.

[pearsall001]

Yep, thats the usual response when someone first experiences a SB or a Sonos. Congrats man, glad your diggin' it. Now pack all those cd cases away for good. I really recommend Rhapsody too for the 10 bucks a month. Enjoy.

Ditto that!!! Rhapsody & Sirius here...both excellent music services.

[nspindel]

That's great. To be honest I don't think ive ever spoken to someone who hase disliked the squeezebox. Most people get it running fairly easily and love it after that. My advice is that now that youve got it running, buying a squeezebox radio should be your next move, and then buy an oem battery for it on eBay. It's great.

[Waynesize]

I was thinking just that, a Squeezbox Radio would be a great addition. Might even be able to get the wife on board with one. Still waiting for her to ask what the new box is on top of the receiver.:cheesygrin:

[nspindel]

http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?127917-Mama-s-got-a-Squeezebox!!!

[tonyb]

That's great. To be honest I don't think ive ever spoken to someone who hase disliked the squeezebox. Most people get it running fairly easily and love it after that. My advice is that now that youve got it running, buying a squeezebox radio should be your next move, and then buy an oem battery for it on eBay. It's great.

You have to buy a seperate SB radio ? Doesn't it grab radio off the internet from around the world ?

[nspindel]

No, any Squeezebox can play Internet radio. Squeezebox Radio is a particular model Squeezebox.

[heiney9]

You have to buy a seperate SB radio ? Doesn't it grab radio off the internet from around the world ?

Yes, but the Squeeze radio is a seperate unit. You can stream anything on any Squeeze product

http://www2.crutchfield.com.edgesuite.net/pix.crutchfield.com/ImageHandler/fixedscale/400/300/products/2009/38/596/x596SRADiOR-f.jpeg

I have one on my nightstand and it doubles as a clock radio as well. You can stream anything on it, including your music from your database. It's portable as well. I take mine out on my deck. Obviously you have to be within wireless range. I love it upstairs because I listen to radio programs as I fall asleep and I can rock out when I'm upstairs doing stuff. It's mono obviously, but it's a nice sounding unit with a seperate tweeter.

H9

[tonyb]

Forgive my ignorance, but if a regular SB touch can do the same thing, stream radio, why would you buy this particular unit ? Portability ? Thats the only reason I can see but if you have speakers outside, why couldn't you just use the SB touch ?

[nspindel]

A SB touch is the equivalent of a cd player. You use it either via analog outs going into a preamp or a digital out to a dac. It's design is really intended to be a stationary unit in a hifi setup.

The Squeezebox Radio is basically like a clock radio. My wife and I both have one on our nightstands, and use it as our alarm clock. We both wake up to internet radio stations, but you could alternatively wake up to a playlist of your choice from your music library. It also has a battery that can be added at an additional cost that allows you to carry it around anywhere you want. I bring it into the bathroom while I'm showering/shaving, etc. I love the two SB Touches I have in my hifi setups and I love the Radio for a completely different application. Two very different products for very different purposes, but both are Squeezebox and use the same server software/library. So once you've already got the whole server side running for a Touch, adding a Radio is a breeze.

[nspindel]

I also have a Boom in my office that I quite like as well. Yes, I'm insane. I own 6 Squeezeboxes :)

[tonyb]

Kinda expensive clock radio no ? I get it, everyone has a different use for it obviously. Not something that I personally would run out to buy or gotta have, but as a clock radio, eh I can see it.

[nspindel]

I use it more often than just as an alarm clock. Given the amount of money i have invested in hifi equipment, this is a drop in the bucket for something that i use and enjoy as often as the SB Radio. I've spent more money on a single vacuum tube. Do your research and make your own decisions, but I haven't spoken to anyone who has not liked their SB Radio. How you decide to spend your money is purely up to you.

[heiney9]

Kinda expensive clock radio no ? I get it, everyone has a different use for it obviously. Not something that I personally would run out to buy or gotta have, but as a clock radio, eh I can see it.

It's so much more than a "clock radio", and yes at full retail it is a luxury most don't need, but I had a 40% off coupon when I bought mine and I use it daily to stream talk radio and occasionally from my music server. Plus I can take it down in my workshop and stream music, out on the deck, etc. The portability is also what sold me. But AM reception for WGN can be spotty in my area with lots of interference and I can stream WGN on the Squeeze radio. I know I could do that through the Touch on the main rig, but honestly I don't want to turn on my main rig to listen to a little AM radio talk.

H9

[vcwatkins]

Does this thing have a line out?
Craig

[heiney9]

Does this thing have a line out?
Craig

No, but it does have a headphone jack. Not the best way to get a signal out, but doable depending on what your expectation is.

[vcwatkins]

Thanks. Was thinking of using as clock radio/bedside hardwired controller for bedroom/bathroom system. Guess I could sync to a Touch. Hmmm....

[Waynesize]

Have a Squeezebox Radio coming for the wife! Anniversary present. :cool:

[SCompRacer]

No, but it does have a headphone jack. Not the best way to get a signal out, but doable depending on what your expectation is.


Not my Touch, but the void your warranty crowd doesn't worry about missing outputs....:cheesygrin: If your Squeeze radio has a DAC chip, you could do this. The pic shows I2S out of a SB Touch via a LVDS (Low-voltage differential signaling) transceiver module to an external DAC. This is how I export PCM/DSD (CD/SACD) from my transport to my new DAC.

http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp260/scompracer/Buffalo%20III%20DAC/touch.jpg

[kappclark]

Yes, but the Squeeze radio is a seperate unit. You can stream anything on any Squeeze product

http://www2.crutchfield.com.edgesuite.net/pix.crutchfield.com/ImageHandler/fixedscale/400/300/products/2009/38/596/x596SRADiOR-f.jpeg

I have one on my nightstand and it doubles as a clock radio as well. You can stream anything on it, including your music from your database. It's portable as well. I take mine out on my deck. Obviously you have to be within wireless range. I love it upstairs because I listen to radio programs as I fall asleep and I can rock out when I'm upstairs doing stuff. It's mono obviously, but it's a nice sounding unit with a seperate tweeter.

H9
I have to get one of these for the basement..I like the portability..does it have ethernet or is it strictly wi fi ?

[vcwatkins]

Yep. Req'ts below. I couldn't figure out how to post the image of the back.

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/speakers-audio/wireless-music-systems/devices/5847

Craig

Windows-based PC
Windows? XP, Windows? 2000, Windows? NT, Windows Vista? or Windows? 7
Mac? computer
Mac OS? X 10.3.5 or later
For access to music on your computer, use Squeezebox software with the minimum system requirements:
256 MB RAM and 80 MB available hard disk space
With any of the following operating systems:
Windows? XP/2000/NT/7, Windows Vista?, 733 MHz Pentium
Mac OS? X 10.3.5 or later
Linux/BSD/Solaris (Perl 5.8.3 or later)
Ethernet or 802.11b/g wireless home network
Broadband Internet connection required for Internet radio and music services

[leroyjr1]

Amazon is having a sale on the squeezebox touch for $234 with $80 free amazon mp3 credit.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002LARRDA?ie=UTF8&ref=aw_bottom_links&force-full-site=1

[sandworms]

wow, good find!

[grimmace19]

Alright squeezebox junkies, let's see who can answer this one. I just got my 2nd touch in the mail today used from ebay. I did the sync between my main player and this one. Got it to play music just fine sync'd with my loft system and everything. However, when I switch between the two players and go to the new one, I can move the volume slider but nothing happens... I can move the slider when on the original touch and it turns it up and down just fine. Why can't I control the volume on my new player? I really don't care if when Sync'd I could only control the volume on both at the same time but that won't even happen.

Any thoughts?

[SCompRacer]

Did you perform a return to default reset on it? (Just above where the A/C power plugs in back). Maybe 'No Volume Setting' is selected in your new used Touch's menu?

[shadowlight]

There is a setting under the Touch where you can set the volume to be 100% all the time. Connect up to you squeeze server and select settings in the lower right hand corner. Select player tab and the touch you are having problems with. The drop down arrow next to the touch name select audio and there is option for volume control. Personally, since you bought the touch used I would just a factory reset and reconfigure it.

[grimmace19]

Thanks, all is well... didn't know that little button existed!

[SCompRacer]

Kewl! Yeah they stuck that there in case you lost the rabbit you were hunting and didn't know where you was in the woods type thing...:lol:

I've used it a couple of times after experimenting with soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0. That Toolbox blanks the Touch's screen among other things.

[Cassidy]

This may have been mentioned somewhere in this thread but if you have an iphone you can get an app (iPeng) that allows you to use the iphone as a controller. I do this and find the iphone connection to the server is better than using the original controller. The presentation of your library in the iPeng interface is better too. You can also upgarde the app to allow streaming to your phone. Hope this helps.

[zane77]

WOW, Just got through reading this entire thread! Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this, a heck of a lot of information for someone who will be new to Squeezebox. My SBT will be here tomorrow and I just ordered a CI PS today. Can't wait to get this installed and start playing with it. Thanks again.

[tonyb]

Cool Zane, congrats. May I suggest you thumb around in some other threads in the digital section including better ways to download your library. Thats something you only want to do once so best to do it right from the gitgo. Let us know if ya needs any help.

[drmike]

heiio scomp racer,
did you do the i2s mod on your touch, dod you like the result?
thanks, drmike

[SCompRacer]

Hi drmike, I haven't modded the Touch to export I2S yet. Too many projects in the way.

[PrazVT]

Not sure if anyone mentioned this in the thread (search didn't find it), but there's an SB enhanced output plugin allowing up to 24/192 audio files. I converted some Led Zep SACD-R albums to 24/176.4k FLACs and it works well. W4S DAC shows correct res as well.