Lots of Carver stuff for sale. Check it out.

[Ceruleance]

UPDATE: ALL STUFF GOING TO EBAY. CHECK MY AUCTIONS HERE:

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=ceruleance

Here is the list. (Please assume every item is in perfect functional condition) Prices do not include actual shipping which can be estimated if you give me a zip code. I will package all items very securely for free.

The first two on the list are rather special. These came from the original owner and weren't used for quite some time. They are in amazing condition and were a great find:

*Carver C-1 preamp. has sonic holography and seperate tone controls for both channels. There is one scratch on the top of the unit, not larger than a penny. The face is perfect, and the volume knob has no chips in the paint, unlike 80% of the C-1's you will see on ebay. Manual Included -$235.

*Carver M-500t amplifier from the same owner. 250 wpc into 8, 350 wpc into 4, bridgable to 700 watts into an 8 ohm load. So nice the VU meter lamps even work and I believe they may be original. Rack handles are included and there are no cosmetic defects of note. Manual Included -$450.

*Carver M-500t #2. This one is not in as great condition. It does not include rack handles or manual. The VU meter lights are out. I don't believe there are major cosmetic defects but assume small scratches are present. -$350

*Carver C-1 #2 This one also isnt in as great condition. Small chips of paint off the edge of the volume knob, still looks good. -$150

*Carver M-1.0t. Amplifier: 200wpc into 8 ohms. Can be bridged to 1000 watts into one 8 ohm load. No large cosmetic defects of note, assume small scratches. -$250

*(2 x) Carver M-200t Amplifiers. These are 120wpc into 8. They can be bridged to 300wpc and used as monoblock amplifiers, or you can use one for a center channel amp (which is what I did), it blends well if you have either an M-500t and the M-1.0t's on the front channels. -$135 each.

*I also have a Harman Kardon Signature 2.0 Pre/Pro with the DTS upgrade and a backlit, programmable, touchscreen TC-1000 remote. Make an offer or let me know if you are interested, I haven't decided what to ask for it or if I am going to sell it at all (I may buy a 5 channel amp instead of a receiver)

I can take pictures of any item of interest and answer any pertinent questions.

I live in Fairfax, VA and Baltimore, MD, if you really feel compelled to pick something up but I really think shipping is going to be pretty reasonable.

Club Polk gets first dibs, then HTF, then Ebay, if it comes to that.

Good luck guys, this is awesome stuff and I wish I had room for it in my dorm room...

[RuSsMaN]

Looks like you're pretty proud of em eh?

[Ceruleance]

The mint stuff, yes. All the stuff is priced at the high end of what you will find on ebay. Feel free to make an offer that you think is more fair.

my prices aren't unheard of, this is a mint M-500t from 3 days ago:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3048045032&category=14973

[dorokusai]

More Carver for you to choose from F1....don't delay, buy today :)

[xfontanax]

Can you post a picture of C1 pre-amp#2 or email me wphoto at fontanagt@mcbbutler.usmc.mil

Thanks

[Ceruleance]

Here we go guys. This is my current 2 channel set up, the C-1 #2 and the M-500t #2. As you can see these still look quite good, I downplayed them to emphasize the minty-ness of set #1. I've drawn an arrow showing the characteristic silver aluminum showing through the black paint on the volume knob.

P.S. as you can see the M-500t #2 has rack handles which I am borrowing from M-500t #1. Sorry if this confuses, the #1 comes with it's original rack handles the #2 does not come with them.

[George Grand]

You do have a piece of lumber sitting under that power amp, no? If not, the "feet" on the amp have probably dug down deep enough into that carpet, that you haven't had convective cooling going on there for some time.

George Grand (of the Jersey Grand's)

[Ceruleance]

George, I doubt it. I'm in a dorm and these are industrial carpets, with about as much pill as perhaps a sheet of plywood that needs to be sanded. Not to mention I rarely push the amp over 50 watts and for longer than 30 minutes. Having neighbors sucks.

Thanks for looking out for me though

[Ceruleance]

on another note...

I reduced all the prices for quicker sale. These are also up over at HTF so I am hoping they'll be gone soon.

[Zero]

So what is it about the Carvers, that you dont like?

[Ceruleance]

I like them alot, especially the 500's, why do you think I bought them all? I'm not selling just my Carver gear, I'm selling all my gear. I want something even more powerful than the M-500t, but I can't afford that without letting go of my current 2-channel system and seperate HT system.

[RuSsMaN]

Don't read me wrong on my previous post, hell you are certainly entiltled to ask what you want for YOUR gear.

I'm debating a 500.... I need, scratch that, WANT a higher powered amp for the SRS 2's.

Cheers,
Rooster

[dorokusai]

"The pipes the pipes are calling" , sung like Mel Torme, just for Russman. :D

[RuSsMaN]

Cer, you have a PM.

[Ceruleance]

Here's the M-200t's and M-500t #1.

[RuSsMaN]

All you 'power hungry' 150 owners ought to be paying attention to that last picture.

The m200t actually bndges to 350w/cont 8ohm. Buy that pair, have some pretty killer monoblocks....

Cheers,
Russ

[faster100]

cer, keep me in mind in the line for the M200t's.. I have to of course free some bank up.. If you can sell em, do it.. just put me in the line for them... while i try and work something out.

[Tour2ma]

Originally posted by RuSsMaN
All you 'power hungry' 150 owners ought to be paying attention to that last picture. Agree and at $135 each, they're the best value in the list. These have been ebaying lately at ~$180.

[faster100]

shush, its a secret.. Kidding :D

[Zero]

Faster,

Just a forwarning. I owned the Carver M-200t's........ and while powerfull, they did not equal the amc 2100.

Of course, thats just me. The M-500t or 1.0t may do you much better justice..

[RuSsMaN]

Cmon ATC, you've owned 2 separate amps in your lifetime, the 2100, and the m200t, right? Had each for what, 2 weeks?

The m200t has a *minimum* of 100 MORE watts to offer, when bridged. I've owned an m200t among other Carver models, and NEVER ONCE clipped, or went into protection mode. NEVER. Is the AMC stable down to 2 ohm? That little Carver is. Do you have any idea on headroom for either amp? Damping? Slew?

Where else is he going to find a PAIR of 350w/ch monoblocks for less than $300?

Cheers,
Russ

[faster100]

well if they didnt equal the 2100.. that obviously cant do the job.. i doubt it would be worth it to get them,

[TroyD]

hmmmmm.....my m200t has and will push every speaker I own (up to and including the CA's) with no issues.

Strange

BDT

[RuSsMaN]

Faster, consider the source for a minute, and what we've determined (more or less) on your 'issue' with the 150's and the 2100.

Cheers,
Russ

[TroyD]

Faster. Bag the m200t's.

If you don't like them. I'll buy both of them from you.

How can you loose?

BDT

[faster100]

Im getting so confused literally.. bare with me here.. LOL

Its money bro.. and lack of.. i just sunk 120 in this amc... We have decided to sell the 70's for various reasons.. period i would have to sell the 70's and or the amc to buy anything.. I like them.. but ya know..

[warlocks1]

Cer, I sent you a PM. I am thinking about getting the 200t's and selling my M1.0t amp. I don't want to step on Fasters toes, so let me know what he decides. Thanks, Jeff

[Zero]

Russ,

Need to change that tampon again?

Since Troy has just offered to buy the M200t's off of faster if they don't work for him, its a win/win situation.

As for the rest of your comments... I post what I feel and what I hear - nothing more. Whether you agree or not, is really none of my concern.

Regardless, I hope Faster will find a solution for his power needs. There is some decent stuff here that SHOULD fit the bill.... but I said that before... heh


Z

[faster100]

I'm not gonna hold up a sale... sell it. I'm not ready to buy or know what i want, Cer.. go ahead and sell if someone wants the 200t's... I want something alittle newer i think. Not that they don't look great and a great price.. Just gonna wait and see what happens... Thanks for the option though

[RuSsMaN]

Actually my tampon is fine, you might want to check your diaper though - after the pantload you posted above.

Nothing like a good 'blanket' statement, with no facts, other than 'I think A is better than B'. I can deal with that if the question was 'which amp will sound better', and your opinion is A.

That however is NOT the question. The AMC appears to be 'checking out early' on Faster's setup. Even a *single* m200t offers greater performance than the 2100. Not to mention, he was looking at buying two of em' and going bridged mono.

Feel free to break it down how the 2100 can best the m200t, when it is an inferior (still a great amp) build to the Carver in every form and fashion - why we should be 'forewarned'.

Cheers,
Russ

[TroyD]

Opinions? A/B?

Hell, I need help just getting through the verbage. ;)


BD(reading on a 6th grade level)T

[Zero]

Russ,

At least you remain fairly consistant eh?

I dont have any tech manuels for either or sitting by my side. Frankly, I feel no obligations to present stats to satisfy your needs. I do know however, that the AMC is stable down to 2 ohms.

I could add a lot more here but this is not the thread to do it, if you wish to take it somewhere else - thats fine.

And why did I say "be forewarned". I have a reason for that too. This is not the place for that reason.

Let the man sell his goods.

[RuSsMaN]

The stats aren't to satisfy my needs you crackpot, they are to help determine if the twin m200t's would solve Faster's issues (or at least have a significant better chance of) , vs, saying getting another 2100 to run mono.

Where else would we take it? Obviously Bob Carver did *something* wrong if we all need to be 'forewarned' about the m200t. I guess whatever it is, he didn't do it to the m500 or the 1.0t you seemed to endorse earlier.

Cer will sell his amps - esp the 200's at the price they are at vs current market - between this forum and ebay - no problems. Looks like warlocks is going to snatch up the deal as we speak.

I'll leave it alone from here if you want, you keep acting like you have a bag, but every time we want try to peek in - POOF- nothing.

Cheers,
Russ

[Tour2ma]

One thing is certain, a pair of bridged 200's will out hump a single 500...

[Ceruleance]

Well it's a good thing this thread is semi-hijacked anyways. After getting almost no response except for my undervalued 200's, everything is off to ebay. All auctions are no reserve and 10 bucks to start, so you still have a chance at getting these gems for a song. You can probably already find the auctions for yourself but I will be posting links later tonight, anyways.

[Tour2ma]

OK............ You've got sniffs on the 200's, but moved them to ebay rather than get what you asked for them?

[Ceruleance]

I had 3 people who told me they wanted them then backed out, so I put them on ebay. I didn't get warlocks email till they were listed. He's welcome to bid

[warlocks1]

Cer, no problem here, I will keep an eye on the auctions. Good luck with your auctions!

[Zero]

Now that Cer has moved his auction over to Ebay, I will spread a little more opinion on the subject.

I have owned a Carver M200t, as you well know. I have never owned a pair of RTi150's, or two Carver M200t's as monoblocks. I wonder who here, has done all of the above?

I could see how the 200's bridged could be a powerfull combination. And while sound quality and what-not is subjective...as far as raw power is concerned, the M200t offers more, but not much more. I feel as though the amp simply would be only half a step above what the AMC would have to offer Cliff.

Ultimately, its his money and his decision. I simply do not want to see Cliff run into nearly identical issue's with the Carver's. Cerc seems to be wanting even more juice... so whats that tell ya?

Sean

[Ceruleance]

true, looking for more juice, but comparing 200 dollar amps to 2000 dollar amps really isnt fair

[TroyD]

Apples and oranges....

I'd be almost tempted to say that if you could, assuming that both were functioning properly, under reasonably normal listening conditions get the RTi150's to trip the protection circuits that I'd kiss Russ's ass in town square at high noon.

BDT

[steveinaz]

That is some fantastic equipment, and I'd buy that M500t in a second if I didn't already have an amp.

I used to have a C-1 myself in the early 80's, I loved it. My audio-fanatic buddy across the hall from me had the MT500t, great amp.

[Ceruleance]

hey guys, this is just an update for anyone who hasnt seen it. My auctions for two M-200t's, and M-500t and a C-1 are ending tomorrow. You can check them out by clicking the link in the very first post in the thread.

Thanks!

[George Grand]

I'll reserve comment on a AMC 2100, because I've never heard one. But as someone has said, two 120wpc stereo amps, which can be bridged for 350wpc mono ops, for $300? Find a better deal than that if you can. Another good reason to consider the two stereo amps would be:

If one of the M200t's blows up, you're still holding court with a single 120wpc amp while the other is being repaired. If the AMC 2100 blows up, the only thing you're holding while it's at the shop is your dick, or a pair of headphones.

George Grand (of the Jersey Grand's)

[madmax]

Originally posted by George Grand


If one of the M200t's blows up, you're still holding court with a single 120wpc amp while the other is being repaired. If the AMC 2100 blows up, the only thing you're holding while it's at the shop is your dick, or a pair of headphones.

George Grand (of the Jersey Grand's)

Another thing to keep in hand, I mean mind, is that if you have two of the same model and you are somewhat electronic repair oriented, you have a working model to compare to the non-working one to. This is great if you can fix stuff yourself!

madmax

[acdds]

Cer, quick question. If I were to buy those two m200t, how coould I use they to drive my Rti70's? And what kind of wpc am I looking at? I have no idea how to bridge an amplifier but I am looking to go bi-amp. I have a Denon3803 receiver. thanks

[Ceruleance]

Im not sure what will work better, biamping or bridging. Bridging will give you more watts per channel, 350 each. Biamping I think will give you a lower noise floor but less wattage, 240 watts, which is still A LOT, and more then you will ever need in a normal sized room with loudspeakers such as the 70's (they are fairly efficient)

For either application you will need an RCA splitting adapter, either 1 female to 2 male or 1 male to two female will work. For Biamping you will run an interconnect from the back of the 3803 to the RCA splitting adapter. You plug the adapters outputs (2 of them) into either the left and right input of the same amp or the two lefts of each amp, it doesnt matter. then you run the corresponding speaker outputs to the top and bottom binding posts on the 70's. Repeat for right channel.

To bridge the M-200t requires that the same input be fed into both the right and left channels of the same amplifier, so once again you will run an interconnect from the 3803 through the splitter into the L and R RCA's. Then, you connect the speaker wire for one speaker to the back of the amp slightly differently than normal. The instructions are printed clearly right on the back of the amplifier itself. It's easy and takes 2 minutes.

I will be more than glad to assist you in the proper setup of these amps after you have made the purchase, but its not very complicated at all.

I believe monster sells RCA splitters for $12 or $15 a pop. I have a pair of high quality splitters which I bought specifically for bridging these two amps. I can include them for $20 for the pair, (or $10 each if you happen to buy just one amp)

I believe almost everyone will agree with me that using just a single stereo M-200t will be an improvement over the 3803, but dual M-200t's either bridged or biamped should be absolutely night and day. Best of luck to anyone bidding.

[dorokusai]

I agree with you :)