OMG! This might actually be working [Archive]

organ

10-13-2003, 07:19 PM

My PSW650 and LSi9 that is. I haven't used my sub for 2ch listening for about 5 months. Every once in a while for the past month and a half I've been working very hard trying to get that sub to blend in nicely with the LSi. I even tried speaker wire connection and still couldn't get it to blend in with the 9's. I spent so much time trying to get it to sound right and pretty much gave up a few nigts ago and kept my fingers crossed for the PSW808. Today, I thought about trying for the last time and I finally got everyhing to sound right. Volume at 3, phase in reverse and x-over at around 55hz.

OK so can anybody give me anymore tips? This is for 2ch not HT.

Maurice

Tour2ma

10-13-2003, 07:29 PM

Nice...

Maurice, I think you have just found the point at which the 650 is picking up where the 9's are "naturally" on their way out. Plus you are deep enough where the 605's output is truly non-directional.

Are you still running speaker lines via the 605?

Just curious with the above question. I really can offer no added advice, but will watch and see if anyone can...

organ

10-13-2003, 07:49 PM

Tour,
You're right about the x-over. The bass is now everywhere. I had it up to about 65-70hz before and it was still directional.

With the higher x-over setting I got more slam but was missing the low extension. Now it has less slam but putting out a lot more weight. No more peaky upper bass too. Before I was able to hear the 650 overlap the 9's on the bass. Now the transition from sub to mains is super clean. The sondstage sounds bigger too.

The sub is connected with RCA interconnects using a Y-adaptor on the pre. I lived with the speaker line set up for a few days and didn't like it.

Maurice

Zero

10-13-2003, 08:17 PM

Congrats Maurice. This is not an easy accomplishment to ascertain. Are you feeding the sub a full-range signal? Where do you have the sub located in relation to your LSi's?

One of my larger challenges has been mating a KLH15'' sub with my neighbors pair of LSi-9's. It took a lot of work, but eventually it happened.

In the end, the hard work pays off.

organ

10-13-2003, 09:25 PM

Sean,
Yeah, it's hard work but well worth it.
The sub is getting a full range signal from the ASL's pre out. The 650 is located between the TV and right speaker. You can see its location in my system showcase. I crawled around on my hands and knees with the sub on the sweet spot to find this location. The current location provides the deepest extension and smoothness.

Looks like you have another challenge waiting when you get the new sub:).

Maurice

Zero

10-13-2003, 10:29 PM

Crawled around on your hands and knee's, for a sub-woofer no less?

Do you have a girlfriend Maurice?

What would your mother say?

sheesh

;)

RuSsMaN

10-13-2003, 10:41 PM

Originally posted by ATCVenom
...mating a KLH15'' sub with my neighbors pair of LSi-9's. It took a lot of work, but eventually it happened....

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

You crackpot.

Cheers,
Russ

Zero

10-13-2003, 10:47 PM

As long as the neighbor was happy. Hell, if only he had low frequency loss, vice high frequency loss. Would have made life much easier :)

TroyD

10-13-2003, 10:49 PM

...mating a KLH15'' sub with my neighbors pair of LSi-9's. It took a lot of work, but eventually it happened....

Did you set it up with your good eye open, or closed?

BDT

RuSsMaN

10-13-2003, 10:51 PM

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

A LOT of work?

What did you do? Sit there and turn the gain and xover knob slowly until it was only slightly un-bearable?

Cheers,
Russ

Zero

10-13-2003, 11:02 PM

Lifting that beast was no easy feat. Haven't had that much strain on my legs since this one large girl ran up to me and jumped on my back in high-school. I was told I was knocked unconcious for a few minutes. Truth be told, I was just playing opposum.

The Xover was the easy part. It was that pesky volume knob.

It blends, that is mostly due in part to it being on the second notch.

Troy,

With all the dust in that mans living room, vision was impared to the point of serving absolutely no purpose. Nothing but using the sense of touch.

organ

10-14-2003, 12:36 AM

Sean,
LOL The dog and fish are the only witness to my weird animal behaviour in the mancave:D.
No girl friend. Having too much fun with tubes right now:).

Hey Russ,
I saw your post on the Flea Market. Glad to hear you're enjoying the new pre. So when are we going to hear about you new toy? Did it come with the Ei tubes like the pics you posted? I'm using a JAN GE 5751 in place of the 12AX7 and switching between Mullard and RFT 12AU7(ECC82). I have a pair of Ei Elite Gold ECC83 but haven't tried them out yet.

Maurice

Zero

10-14-2003, 02:54 PM

Maurice,

Just be sure that you dont put those tubes in any places girls suppose to touch eh. While great for entertainment, tubes dont replace girls entirely.

And whats this about "mancave", how old are you again? More like "kids playhouse". ;)

organ

10-14-2003, 05:30 PM

Well, I'm having so much fun with them that I don't think about girls while listening. When I'm at school it's a different story. There's two girls I really like there. One in my math class and the other in psychology. Once I make up my mind, organ is going in for the attack.

Don't worry...The tubes only goes in the amp/pre or the tubes boxes:).

Why is it a mancave? Let's see...the basement is pretty much my room. I don't sleep in the bedroom. You won't find me anywhere else around the house.
I'm 21 and I've been into audio for 9 years. I think my rig can qualify as a mancave. The "kids playhouse" was many years ago when I was using a Technics receiver and Kenwood towers:).

Maurice

Zero

10-14-2003, 05:37 PM

Maurice,

I fear your attraction to females pails in comparison to your interest in audio. Don't worry, its not a bad thing necessarily, you just put a new spin on the word "audiophile".

Oh yes, go all out - take both home for a night of lovin'. Get those tubes glowing nice and hot for the romantic effect. When you accomplish that - then you can call it a man-cave. Until then, enjoy the playhouse. :)

organ

10-14-2003, 05:54 PM

Aaah Damn it Sean!!!!!! I wouldn't let any female body fluids near those tubes! Well, depends how much I love her. Only girls that I would consider to be a perfect Mrs. Organ can have sex with me in the "playhouse":D.
It would be nice to have both at the same time, but they're just not that type. These are the kind of girls you'd want to treat like a queen. Ok, I'll call it playhouse until I get one of them beautiful ladies:).

It's normal to enjoy music as much as women or sex. The part of your brain that reacts to pleasure, sex and certain drugs also reacts to music. Yeah I know, I watch too much Discovery channel:).

Maurice

Zero

10-14-2003, 06:02 PM

Both at the same time is fairly nice.

It's night-time, and the lights are off. The house is vacant except for you and your girl.

You both are doing what nature intended. The low rumble of a nice bass beat from the towers..... the green LED adding to the exotic nature.

One day my friend, you will get there. And it will be good!

organ

10-14-2003, 06:07 PM

Hmmm I'll think about that. She better bring the music though. I don't think she'll enjoy metal, classical or opera while doin it. The only music I have that could pass for sex music is probably Sarah Brightman.

Maurice