SVS PB2 over PB1?

[Duffman]

I've come to the realization that my trusty PSW350 is now the weak link in my setup. I feel it will soon be Ebay'd....

My question is, how much "better" is the PB2 than the PB1? Obviously this is subjective and I can read the specs but I'm wondering if you SVS owners would likely recommend the PB2 over the PB1 just as a matter of fact....is the extra $300 worth it?

[Airplay355]

from what people have said, definitely

[faster100]

Well actually me and one other person i think is all that have the Pb1, so its not really fair to say... BUt its obvious the Pb2-isd or + is better then the Pb1.... 2 12" drivers compared to 1... even a crappy sub with 2 12's would be louder.... then 1 12" driver...

[Vr3MxStyler2k3]

Faster.......

"Even a crappy dual 12 sub would be louder!"

I bet ya 10 bucks my Subwoofer plays softer than your sub! :p

[Airplay355]

why not raise the stakes? you know that fasters is way better lol

[faster100]

Well i meant current subs with 2 active subs... Not passive

[dave shepard]

I think that the size of the room will play a big part in which sub would be best. With a room too small I would think the pb2 would devestate you and everything in it. What size is your room?

Dave

[Tour2ma]

Bingo dave...

Duffman,
Room size, openings and volume of the adjacent space(s) through the openings are all factors to consider. So do tell what you have.

Do bear in mind though that you can tame a 2 if your room is currently on the small side, but you believe you'll have a bigger HT in the future.

[Dr. Spec]

Don't overbuy the SVS.

The PB1 has tons of power for rooms up to about 1500 ft3, or even bigger (2000-2500) if you are not into really high SPL.

The PB2 is designed to put up really big numbers in larger rooms.

But it won't sound any different in the 25 Hz tune than the PB1 - up to the clean limits of the PB1.

[Tour2ma]

Doc,
So you can't tame a "2"?

[Duffman]

Thanks for the advice guys. My room isn't that big - it's about 20x20 and opens into a kitchen area that's about 18x25.

Based on what you're saying it sounds like the PB1 will be plenty.

Cheers

[faster100]

Not big, 20x20' is pretty big, My living room is 10x12' and i have a Pb1, I woulod think pb2-isd minimum

[fireshoes]

Dude, with that opening to the next room, you're talking huge volume. Maybe you forgot the height part of the equation...20 x 20 x 8(?) = 3200 ft3 and that doesn't even include the other room.

[Dr. Spec]

Yes, PB2 in that size room - all the way.

Tour - will be calling you today from work - yes, have been hunting my ass off. And yes, the PB2+ works quite nicely in my 2,000 ft3 room. And can also hit 120+ dB if I want it to. But at more moderate HT level (110 dB), it is loafing and with very low THD - sounds spectacular.

[Duffman]

Originally posted by fireshoes
Dude, with that opening to the next room, you're talking huge volume. Maybe you forgot the height part of the equation...20 x 20 x 8(?) = 3200 ft3 and that doesn't even include the other room.
Hadn't considered height at all. I have 9' ceilings. Oh darn, looks like I have to up the ante....

[Tour2ma]

Just look at it as cheaper than lowering the ceiling... :)

[CT2]

Please forgive me if it's too dumb:
Shouldn't it be better if sound is comming directly from speaker?
Why have to fill the whole room/kitchen?
Why you guys choose sub/speaker based on room size, not
listen area?
I'm research for SVS now and answers will make a hudge
difference.

Thanks,

CT2:confused:

[Tour2ma]

CT2,
Sorry, not sure I understand your "direct sound" question. Will say that true bass is non-directional, i.e., it's source cannot be determined. This is generally true below 80 Hz. The higher the frequency the more directional sound becomes, and then, yes, a more direct path to the listener is key.

In the old days of high frequency reproduction, "beaming" was common, i.e., a very narrow dispersion of the sound wave. Many an hour was spent by audio engineers designing tweeters that would beam less and less. Today's dome tweeters have been all but eliminated beaming.

Bass will "escape" to any space available, in this case the kitchen. If you're into the full bass effect, up to and including "pants waffling" (or the creation of pressure waves you can feel as well as hear), adjacent space must be considered.

Room volume is the key per the above, not area. 50% difference in a 16 x 20 room with 8' ceilings vs. one with a cathedral ceiling with an average height of 12'...

Doc, here, or Tom and others at SVS can guide you in your choice of the proper SVS for your room...