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nicolas606
08-02-2012, 12:51 PM
Which is the best type of wire for RTiA9 :biggrin:

Regards

steveinaz
08-02-2012, 01:06 PM
There's many to choose from, how much do you want to spend? How many feet do you need?

nicolas606
08-02-2012, 01:33 PM
I don't know maybe 25 feet for both and for the price I don't have anything in my head I just want to see what people on the forum think which is the best and after i'm gonna make a choice. Also I would like to know which type of gauge

steveinaz
08-02-2012, 04:26 PM
Here's some nice quality budget cables:

http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=KK4VS
http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=AQT4NF&variation=10PBNBN

pitdogg2
08-02-2012, 05:03 PM
http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?134717-MIT-EXP2-speaker-cables

http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/show...Speaker-cables

there are others in the FS section...

heiney9
08-02-2012, 05:05 PM
http://www.mitcables.com/available-online/shotgun-s3.3-speaker-cable.html

This is what I would choose based on your general criteria. I own the 8' shotgun S3's and they are fantastic.

H9

tonyb
08-02-2012, 09:15 PM
Nicolas,

Pretty broad question there my friend, wire comes in many flavors that only your ears can judge. Budget cables, mid level, expensive and ubber expensive. As a good quality, good sounding, reasonably priced cable goes, you'd do yourself fine with Signal cable or Blue Jeans cable to start off with. When your wallet allows, move up to any of 40+ different cable companies like Audioquest, MIT, Morrow, Kimber, and the list can go on. Check out Audiogon. com for some good prices too.

decal
08-03-2012, 09:18 AM
There is no definitive "best" of anything. There are way too many variables involved. The "best" you can hope for is to find something that works well in your system. You can then say it's the "best" for you until you find something you think is better !!!!

fbm211
08-03-2012, 05:47 PM
I use DH Labs Q-10 signature.
A mid level cost with a Hi Quality sound.
I purchased it direct from DH Labs in the raw and cut and terminated it myself to save a few bucks.

HTguru1982
08-05-2012, 03:35 AM
http://www.mitcables.com/available-online/shotgun-s3.3-speaker-cable.html

This is what I would choose based on your general criteria. I own the 8' shotgun S3's and they are fantastic.

H9

His speakers cost less than that. Maybe if he had just spent $10,000 on a pair of speakers then maybe he would benefit from these.

Unless you've got high, HIGH end speakers, there's no need to spend a fortune on speaker cables IMO. Any of these should be fine for your speakers.

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=100-021
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/MCMCX1SGSC15/Monster-Cable-Mcx1s-M-Series-Speaker-Cable-15ft-each/1.html
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/MCU2s60040/MONSTER-CABLE-S600-40-40ft-Thx-Speaker-Cable-w/Time-Correct-Windings/1.html
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/IXOSXASW611T/IXOS-GT-High-Performance-11ga-Speaker-Wire/1.html

BlueFox
08-05-2012, 03:45 AM
Unless you've got high, HIGH end speakers, there's no need to spend a fortune on speaker cables.

That is an interesting idea. I wonder if lower cost speakers have untapped potential that better cables can reveal. If so then the money isn't wasted since the current system is now better, and the foundation is in place for future upgrades.

teekay0007
08-05-2012, 04:22 AM
http://www.mitcables.com/available-online/shotgun-s3.3-speaker-cable.html

This is what I would choose based on your general criteria. I own the 8' shotgun S3's and they are fantastic.

H9

Yeah, this sounds great! I bet he jumps right on it. For the lengths the OP is asking about, $2700 cables (:eek:) won't even cover it. Well done, H9!

PolkieMan
08-05-2012, 06:43 AM
buy this

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10239&cs_id=1023901&p_id=2816&seq=1&format=2

tonyb
08-05-2012, 06:50 AM
Yeah, this sounds great! I bet he jumps right on it. For the lengths the OP is asking about, $2700 cables (:eek:) won't even cover it. Well done, H9!

Mit has many lines that vary in price, not all their cables are super expensive.

I can never understand these cable threads. It's either monoprice or you don't need super expensive cables.....nothing inbetween. There are hundreds of cable companies offering all sorts to fit anyone's wallet.

OP,
Maybe check the signatures of other members here to get an idea of what others are using as a guide. There is no "best" cable, only a cable that suits your ears and compliments your gear. Signal cable is a great place to start on your cable journey and if you tell Frank over there your a Polk member, he's likely to throw you a discount too. Good luck to you and congrats on the speakers.

EndersShadow
08-05-2012, 09:58 AM
Some midgrade suggestions off the top of my head:

SignalCable (we get a discount as Polk members)
Blue Jeans Cable
Kimber Kable 4VS
Audioquest Type 4
DouglasConnection (forum member here who makes custom cables)
the list goes on and on

I look at it this way. Take the cost of your speakers and put at in cables at least worth 10% of that to start with. The suggestions above are by no means super highly priced but they ARE better than monoprice. Do yourself a favor and try em out.

heiney9
08-05-2012, 10:10 AM
Yeah, this sounds great! I bet he jumps right on it. For the lengths the OP is asking about, $2700 cables (:eek:) won't even cover it. Well done, H9!

Apparently you didn't get the sarcasm in my post and/or you read into the OP's post something that wasn't there. I answered strictly based on what he posted. He gives ZERO criteria about what he's looking for and what he is willing to spend. YOU jumped to the conclusion he wanted something entry level, I didn't. Not to mention these are similar to the cables I use and they are fantastic. So thanks for "well done" comment, I thought it was a great suggestion too.

H9

HTguru1982
08-05-2012, 12:02 PM
To the OP, Monoprice sells decent stuff but be aware that it may oxidize(turn green) in less than a year. I purchased some 14 ga wire from them a few years back and that's exactly what happened.

EndersShadow mentioned spending allotting 10% of your budget on speaker wire and I think that's a good number to start with. Blue Jeans Cable, Signal Cable, etc are all good companies to buy from. I still think Accessories For Less is a great place to get gear/cable for cheap.

F1nut
08-05-2012, 12:59 PM
His speakers cost less than that. Maybe if he had just spent $10,000 on a pair of speakers then maybe he would benefit from these.

Unless you've got high, HIGH end speakers, there's no need to spend a fortune on speaker cables IMO.

The $1000.00 speakers in my office rig are hooked up with $3000.00 speaker cables. The improvements in sound quality over "cheap" cable made it worth every penny.

Remo
08-05-2012, 02:06 PM
12AWG copper wire is all you need, its about $0.60 per foot , anything else is just marketing fluff and complete waste of money.

73711

PolkieMan
08-05-2012, 04:02 PM
Hey I checked out Accessories For Less that is now on my bookmark, thanks.:cheesygrin:
You made me go check my wires on my SDA1C from monoprice:eek:
They are not green but I will be watching.
On my 2.3 tls I have original Kimbercable from 1989 the orange and black braid kind.
Now I think that there is no reason to use any better speaker wire than what is inside your speakers of course you want good cable and big enough gauge from the length of your runs so as to not add resistance but that is IMHO.
I just think all copper 12ga should be plenty good.


To the OP, Monoprice sells decent stuff but be aware that it may oxidize(turn green) in less than a year. I purchased some 14 ga wire from them a few years back and that's exactly what happened.

EndersShadow mentioned spending allotting 10% of your budget on speaker wire and I think that's a good number to start with. Blue Jeans Cable, Signal Cable, etc are all good companies to buy from. I still think Accessories For Less is a great place to get gear/cable for cheap.

PolkieMan
08-05-2012, 04:18 PM
How much did you all spend on the end connectors, banana plugs? Some of us don't even have an office :wink:



The $1000.00 speakers in my office rig are hooked up with $3000.00 speaker cables. The improvements in sound quality over "cheap" cable made it worth every penny.

F1nut
08-05-2012, 04:22 PM
12AWG copper wire is all you need, its about $0.60 per foot , anything else is just marketing fluff and complete waste of money.

So, you have no personal experience with quailty cable and would rather believe some article than actually trying it for yourself, which of course means your opinion is without merit.

F1nut
08-05-2012, 04:25 PM
Now I think that there is no reason to use any better speaker wire than what is inside your speakers

A common misconception.

F1nut
08-05-2012, 04:26 PM
How much did you all spend on the end connectors, banana plugs?

They came with the cables.

nooshinjohn
08-05-2012, 05:03 PM
The $1000.00 speakers in my office rig are hooked up with $3000.00 speaker cables. The improvements in sound quality over "cheap" cable made it worth every penny.

Imagine how much better things would sound if you spent 3k on speakers and 1k on cables.:razz:

nooshinjohn
08-05-2012, 05:12 PM
12AWG copper wire is all you need, its about $0.60 per foot , anything else is just marketing fluff and complete waste of money.

73711

This entire article is complete BS. When the author of this crap can state that tubes are for "tweako cultists" and thet "tubes are for boobs", he clearly shows his bias and lack of any experience with the subject. There is so much garbage out there these days, and a shame that so many start drinking the koolaid without ever learning for themselves.

BlueFox
08-05-2012, 05:46 PM
This entire article is complete BS. When the author of this crap can state that tubes are for "tweako cultists" and thet "tubes are for boobs", he clearly shows his bias and lack of any experience with the subject. There is so much garbage out there these days, and a shame that so many start drinking the koolaid without ever learning for themselves.

That screenshot article exactly mirrors Ravioli's philosophy. He must have read it, and since it agrees with his opinion, it must be true. Interestingly, there is not a single fact, or data, in that page. Everything said is opinion.

nooshinjohn
08-05-2012, 06:12 PM
yeah it does.. and a very short google search of the author of that piece of trash confirms my speculations as well. Peter Aczel did a glowing review for a speaker without disclosing that he also owned the company that made the speaker! Turns out the speaker was really crapola and the speaker company went belly up. His publication, "The Audio Critic" is also belly up, though it does exist as a little visited "web-zine", dedicated to the cultist snobs that believe cheap gear is as good as or better than expensive gear and cables don't matter.

What a reputable source to use for basing an opinion. :rolleyes:

F1nut
08-05-2012, 06:32 PM
Imagine how much better things would sound if you spent 3k on speakers and 1k on cables.:razz:

No guarantee on that one. Due to location I can only use monitors and they need to perform well close to the back wall. That pretty much rules out rear ported designs. I ended up with a sealed design that does a solid 38Hz.

janmike
08-05-2012, 07:17 PM
Let your EARS be the judge! My Shotgun S1's said it all. End Of Story.

Lasareath
08-05-2012, 08:27 PM
Nicolas,

If I had a pair of those speakers I'd use something from this site: http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/speaker/index.htm

Or this site: http://signalcable.com/ultraspeaker.html

Click those links, read up on them and you pick one that you like the most.

Hook them up and enjoy.

Nobody can tell you which speaker cables are the best unless they can hear with your ears.

Lasareath





Which is the best type of wire for RTiA9 :biggrin:

Regards

acmf74
08-06-2012, 08:10 AM
Nicolas,

If I had a pair of those speakers I'd use something from this site: http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/speaker/index.htm

Or this site: http://signalcable.com/ultraspeaker.html

Click those links, read up on them and you pick one that you like the most.

Hook them up and enjoy.

Nobody can tell you which speaker cables are the best unless they can hear with your ears.

Lasareath

Agreed!

I personally use Siganl Cable and Bluejeans for the past few years. Both companies make excellent products for a resonable price AND are excellent to work with.

Remo
08-06-2012, 12:11 PM
So, you have no personal experience with quailty cable and would rather believe some article than actually trying it for yourself, which of course means your opinion is without merit.
Actualy I have personal experience with the overpriced gimmick cable so many swear by.
My friend was one of those sheep not so long ago, that was untill I swaped out his over priced interconects and speaker cable with monoprice interconects and some 12AWG copper wire, this was with out his knowing. He never noticed , I told him a week later to look behind his AV rack. WOW was he suprised and a bit pissed.... not at me but at himself for falling for the high dollar cable scams.

F1nut
08-06-2012, 12:18 PM
What a crock!

Even if that was true, it wasn't on your rig, so you still lack personal experience and furthermore, if you did that to one of my rigs, you wouldn't be able to type again for the rest of your miserable life.

Remo
08-06-2012, 12:37 PM
What a crock!

Even if that was true, it wasn't on your rig, so you still lack personal experience and furthermore, if you did that to one of my rigs, you wouldn't be able to type again for the rest of your miserable life.

Yes that story wasn't about my rig, but we did take his overpriced cables and put them on my rig later to see if they would do anything on my "budget equipment"..... yeah no difference there either.

Anyway if people want to spend a bunch of money on interconects and speaker cable they are free to do so.... But I won't recommend it to anyone... and that I am free to do so.

BlueFox
08-06-2012, 12:51 PM
Anyway if people want to spend a bunch of money on interconects and speaker cable they are free to do so

Thank you. That is very kind of you. To have the blessing of such an experienced audio god is gratifying.

F1nut
08-06-2012, 01:07 PM
You want to know why I know your story is a crock? You would have been shouting the name of those cables as loud as you could. Instead all you could come up with is "overpriced cables". Pffft

ken brydson
08-06-2012, 01:35 PM
These would be a good start-

http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?134710-3-10-foot-MIT-EXp2-Speaker-cables

ken brydson
08-06-2012, 01:37 PM
Or these if you need longer lengths-

http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?134717-MIT-EXP2-speaker-cables

rebuy
08-06-2012, 10:26 PM
My 4 dollar wire from True Value Hardware was a Poor performer as it turned green. I don't like green speaker wire.
My $3.95 speaker wire I got from Home Depot is much better. It's a RCA Spool. It's not green either so it's not coloring my music.
So I can testify that wire does matter. Next time I buy wire I am encouraged to spend more than $3.95.

rvito
08-17-2012, 05:39 AM
Audioquest Midnight series cables are nice and can be had off of flea pay for good prices

gp4jesus
08-23-2012, 06:13 PM
Here's 100' 12 ga under $30! includes shipping!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/100FT-High-Quality-12-Gauge-Ga-Awg-Speaker-Cable-Wire-/160868993314?_trksid=p4340.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D11%26meid%3D1537483313151578344%26pid%3D100 011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D4%26

100' 10 ga about $73 including shipping.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-FT-30m-High-Definition-10-Gauge-Speaker-Wire-Cable-/360180131301?pt=US_Audio_Cables_Adapters&hash=item53dc68a5e5

mesquitehead
08-23-2012, 06:46 PM
Just remember that any 100% ofc copper speaker wire will be better than the stuff the mfr uses to wire up the drivers in the cabinet. Try this place http://www.douglasconnection.com/

tonyb
08-24-2012, 05:36 AM
Just remember that any 100% ofc copper speaker wire will be better than the stuff the mfr uses to wire up the drivers in the cabinet. Try this place http://www.douglasconnection.com/

Might be true in some cases, but not all. Regardless, improving the signal path can be done at any of the steps the signal takes. There's more to it all than a simple cheap wire in a speaker.

mesquitehead
08-24-2012, 11:27 AM
Build them yourself for a fraction of what the golden gods of cables want to charge for their "magic" wire. http://www.douglasconnection.com/

BlueFox
08-24-2012, 11:34 AM
Build them yourself for a fraction of what the golden gods of cables want to charge for their "magic" wire. http://www.douglasconnection.com/

Great. Another no-nothing spammer linking a web site. :rolleyes:

stretchl
08-24-2012, 11:43 AM
FWIW, I just put in MIT EXP S2 cables purchased here from PSOVLSK and they sound is amaaaaaayyyy-zing. The most obvious improvement is the soundstage, which is noticeably wider.

Now for confession time... I was using off-the-spool Radio Shack wire prior to the MIT cable, so I guess it's not surprising there was an improvement.

Nevertheless, the MIT's have made me a true believer. So... anyone know where I can find a similarly great deal on some comparable interconnects? :question:

EndersShadow
08-24-2012, 11:47 AM
Build them yourself for a fraction of what the golden gods of cables want to charge for their "magic" wire. http://www.douglasconnection.com/


Great. Another no-nothing spammer linking a web site. :rolleyes:

Actually in this case its a good link. Thats a fellow Polkie's website (helipilotdoug). He makes custom interconnects, speaker cables, etc. Buy from DouglasConnection with confidence. I have talked to him on the phone at lenght and hes a good guy.

His cables (IC's and SC's) gets some VERY good reviews from some of the guys at the CarverAudio forum.

EndersShadow
08-24-2012, 11:49 AM
Nevertheless, the MIT's have made me a true believer. So... anyone know where I can find a similarly great deal on some comparable interconnects? :question:

Well the EXp1 or EXp2 would be what I looked for, I just sold my set of 5 2m cables to vcwatkins but I am sure there are some floating around :biggrin:.

badchad
08-24-2012, 12:01 PM
So are there objective tests and criteria for cables, speaker wire, and interconnects? Or is it merely personal preference?

I've always "heard" that for some things, like digital interconnects (e.g. HDMI cables) there is no reason to buy expensive products. Digital data is 1's and 0's, and the expensive monster cable has absolutely zero benefit relative to monoprice.

So is there an objective way to determine if one cable is "better" than another?

F1nut
08-24-2012, 12:04 PM
Build them yourself for a fraction of what the golden gods of cables want to charge for their "magic" wire. http://www.douglasconnection.com/

You do realize his cables are re-badged Belden wire, right?

I see where you recently learned that bi-amping off an AVR isn't really bi-amping, so has it occurred to you that you still have much to learn about cable?

mesquitehead
08-24-2012, 12:08 PM
Great. Another no-nothing spammer linking a web site. :rolleyes:
Might do some investigation before making statements such as the one above.
Just trying to help my Polk brothers out amigo.

stretchl
08-24-2012, 12:10 PM
Well the EXp1 or EXp2 would be what I looked for, I just sold my set of 5 2m cables to vcwatkins but I am sure there are some floating around :biggrin:.

I almost jumped on those, Dan. 2m is a bit long for me. Now, if they were 6.56168 feet, that would've been another story. :biggrin:

mesquitehead
08-24-2012, 12:15 PM
F1nut, I was simply trying to get by till my Carver amps were repaired. I know a bit but don't claim to be an audio god. Thanks for enlightening me.

EndersShadow
08-24-2012, 01:01 PM
I almost jumped on those, Dan. 2m is a bit long for me. Now, if they were 6.56168 feet, that would've been another story. :biggrin:

LOL, nice........ :razz:

BlueFox
08-24-2012, 01:08 PM
Might do some investigation before making statements such as the one above.
Just trying to help my Polk brothers out amigo.

While help is always appreciated, it is not very helpful when you say something such as
for a fraction of what the golden gods of cables want to charge for their "magic" wire without providing any data that the cables are equal to or better than other vendors.

However, I might have misread the statement since I am not aware of any vendor who has a "magic" product line. It very well is possible his cables are better than some vendor who has a "magic" product line. Of course, there is more to cable technology than slapping connectors onto a piece of wire.

So my apology for the spam remark.

mesquitehead
08-24-2012, 01:49 PM
While help is always appreciated, it is not very helpful when you say something such as without providing any data that the cables are equal to or better than other vendors.

However, I might have misread the statement since I am not aware of any vendor who has a "magic" product line. It very well is possible his cables are better than some vendor who has a "magic" product line. Of course, there is more to cable technology than slapping connectors onto a piece of wire.

So my apology for the spam remark.

Thanks, accepted. I dabble a bit in pro audio gear and have heard a great deal of BS especially regarding wire. Our focus is on analog studio gear www.burginmcdaniel.com . My partner is regarded as one of the best audio designers in the business and has won the AES award for circuit design and designed the entire Portico line and 5088 mixer while we were at Rupert Neve Designs. I think we have all seen products that claim to be a panacea for all our audio needs, especially speaker wire. :biggrin:

cowtrimmer
08-24-2012, 03:31 PM
Another helpful audio cable thread. :rolleyes:...........Its not to often that you get to see grown men who spend so much on cable get so butt hurt over the fact that they do. :lol: and then get all hurt because everyone doesn't "chipmunk" them.

stretchl
08-24-2012, 03:46 PM
Rotfl

stretchl
08-24-2012, 03:47 PM
ps - I just ordered a set of IC's and jumpers from Frank at Signal Cable.

Seems to be a real stand up guy. :)

http://signalcable.com/analogtwo.html

EndersShadow
08-24-2012, 05:37 PM
ps - I just ordered a set of IC's and jumpers from Frank at Signal Cable.

Seems to be a real stand up guy. :)

http://signalcable.com/analogtwo.html

Please tell me you mentioned your a Club Polk member... that will net you 10% off I believe.

heiney9
08-24-2012, 05:51 PM
Please tell me you mentioned your a Club Polk member... that will net you 10% off I believe.

It's actually 5%, and he should be able to still get it if he didn't mention it already. Signal are nice cables for the $$$.

H9

tonyb
08-24-2012, 08:01 PM
He is a stand up guy. Make no bones about doing buisness with Signal Cable and Frank. I always suggest that be your first stop when your looking to upgrade that Home depot or Monoprice cable and you don't want to spend alot of coin.

F1nut
08-24-2012, 08:56 PM
Another helpful audio cable thread. :rolleyes:...........Its not to often that you get to see grown men who spend so much on cable get so butt hurt over the fact that they do. :lol: and then get all hurt because everyone doesn't "chipmunk" them.

Another one of your mistaken assumptions. I'm not "butt hurt" over the amount of money I've spent on cables. Why should I be, they are worth every penny.

What I see are folks like you that don't have any experience with high end cables stating that they are snake oil and trying to convince those who do have experience that we've wasted our money because you can't afford them. Seems to me you're the one who's butt hurt.

bobsauto49
08-24-2012, 09:38 PM
Another one of your mistaken assumptions. I'm not "butt hurt" over the amount of money I've spent on cables. Why should I be, they are worth every penny.

What I see are folks like you that don't have any experience with high end cables stating that they are snake oil and trying to convince those who do have experience that we've wasted our money because you can't afford them. Seems to me you're the one who's butt hurt.
I have tried the "snake oil" Treatment! Mit Exp2 IC's purchased, AVT2 Speaker wire/8ft purchased,and the Shotgun S3 speaker wire/8ft on a pay/day demo(in which the cables were used,and "broken in"). I also bought Pangea AC14se,and the AC9se! None of these cables made an "audible" or any other difference in my listening pleasure! To each their own,its all about the journey! I kept the Exp2's,and the Avt2's,based on quality build,and i shouldn't have to buy,or worry about cables for my time on earth anymore!
For the OP,start with what u can afford,(signal cable has a great rep around here!) and follow the jouney as far as your wallet will allow u to experience! Good Day,and Good Luck!

stretchl
08-24-2012, 10:32 PM
Frank discounted my $94 purchase to $89.

BlueFox
08-24-2012, 11:07 PM
I have tried the "snake oil" Treatment! Mit Exp2 IC's purchased, AVT2 Speaker wire/8ft purchased,and the Shotgun S3 speaker wire/8ft on a pay/day demo(in which the cables were used,and "broken in"). I also bought Pangea AC14se,and the AC9se! None of these cables made an "audible" or any other difference in my listening pleasure!

The key here is that you actually tried something, versus the know-it-alls who try nothing. While I do not know why you had a problem not hearing a difference, I suspect for every one who does not hear a difference there are ninety nine who do. Otherwise, all these cable vendors would go out of business. The funny part is the butt munches latch onto the one, and ignore the other ninety nine. :rolleyes:

schaufensterpup
08-25-2012, 02:37 PM
My friend,now listen to me..been doing this for 50 years.It doesn't matter what your speakers are !Unless you have very top end speakers; forget about it...Go to ebay look for some flat speaker cables,most are very good indeed ! For about $20.00-$40.00 a person can get excellent cables (Chinese) from Hong Kong.Don't get fooled from the HYPE,good luck my friend and stay tuned and stay analog......the schaufensterpuppen

leftwinger57
08-25-2012, 02:49 PM
Me, I subscribe to the Rodger Russel school of wire. Maybe 10-12 foot runs needs nothing more than 14 gu. clear zip.As most have chimed in the bigger your system and your wallet will allow then yes invest in boutique branded cables.

tonyb
08-26-2012, 07:03 AM
The funny part is the butt munches latch onto the one, and ignore the other ninety nine. :rolleyes:

LOL !!

Not cool making me spit coffee so early on a Sunday.:cheesygrin::cheesygrin:

helipilotdoug
08-29-2012, 10:40 AM
Me, I subscribe to the Rodger Russel school of wire. Maybe 10-12 foot runs needs nothing more than 14 gu. clear zip.As most have chimed in the bigger your system and your wallet will allow then yes invest in boutique branded cables.
My Brother In Law has a set of ADL 300i auto speakers, and he wanted to see if they would still work. They only have the spring clips, so could not use my regular cables, so I grabbed a roll of zip cord speaker cable I had on the shelf to hook them into my shop system, just to test them.
Here is the roll of 14/2 speaker cable that as you can see was manufactured in Sept. 2009. That's just under 3 years ago.
74495

When you strip this wire, here is what you get. Copper has corroded and is no longer nice and shiny. This is not the old end of the cable, but a section taken from about 6' in.
74497
This is not what I would use for any audio system, no matter what the cost!

VR3
08-29-2012, 11:23 PM
My favorite performer for the dollar is DH Labs Q-10