toe in

[bgaskins]

Did a search. I couldn't find what I was looking for. Could someone please tell me what toe in actually is? Or link to a very detailed thread about it? Thanks a lot gang. As usual always a good help.

[Zero]

Putting it simply:

You "Toe in" a speaker when you face it towards your listening position. Usually this is in reference to two main speakers.

[gatemplin]

"Toe in" is when you angle the speakers (usually mains) towards the listening position. Experiment to find the right angle, whatever sounds best to you.

Edit: Awww cripes! He beat me to it

[Zero]

Gate, ahhh the credit is yours... I was looking for a word to describe it, and forgot all about "angle".

Sheesh.. its been a long - long week.

[mantis]

toe in is a art form.

Simple way to get started.Your mains speakers should be equal distance apart as the distance you sit from them.Then when your sitting in your listening position,toe in the speakers or ANGLE them inward untill you only see the front of the speaker.Nop sides should be visible.

This is a basic starting point.Once you hear what difference this made as to what you have setup now,then you can taylor your sound accordingly.

Again this is an artform and needs to be treated as such.

Dan

[bgaskins]

Thanks everyone, I will try this, becuase my ht room is long and not very deep. I think this would make a huge difference.

[brettw22]

The only time you'll benefit from toe-in is if you sit in that one exact spot every time you either listen to music or watch a movie. I move around all the time, so I would absolutely hate it.........

[danger boy]

with the correct toe in... stereo can have a very nice imaging quality to it.. and it can even envelop you.. enough so.. that it sounds like you're surrounded by more than just two speakers.

as for as i know.. you don't need to toe in your speakers very much.. lets just say.. 5 degrees or so.

[Terrax]

As mantis stated, "toeing in speakers is an art form". And I agree with danger boy, most of the time it will not take much to improve the soundstage and imaging of a pair of speakers. I for one, am a firm believer in "angling" speakers, especially horn loaded ones.

[Steve@3dai]

I would look at your main seating area (like the couch that faces your TV) and toe in according to the edges of the couch. That way even people on the edges get a better soundstage, not just the main listener.

That's how I have mine setup at home and it sounds fantastic.

[PhantomOG]

Originally posted by Steve@3dai
I would look at your main seating area (like the couch that faces your TV) and toe in according to the edges of the couch. That way even people on the edges get a better soundstage, not just the main listener.

That's how I have mine setup at home and it sounds fantastic.

i've currently got mine angled toward the center of the couch... i'll have to try the edges and see how it sounds.

[4_everyman]

Originally posted by Terrax
As mantis stated, "toeing in speakers is an art form". And I agree with danger boy, most of the time it will not take much to improve the soundstage and imaging of a pair of speakers. I for one, am a firm believer in "angling" speakers, especially horn loaded ones.
Terrax, like you, i'm using RTi150s. Are you toe-ing in your RTi150s? About how many degrees?
Rgds,
--Pete

[RCR1]

What you can also do to help with setting the angle is tape a laser pointer to the top of the speakerbox midline with the drivers. Then you can get an idea of where it's pointing at. Of course the laser will be pointing above the seating are but you'll now get a good idea of the angle.

Also to help with imaging, you want to pull the mains a few inches in front of the TV as well as angle the center channel downward to the listening area (if you're TV is tall like an RPTV). Pulling the center channel as far forward and angling it down (I use door stops) without it falling of course :D works wonders. Give it a try.