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glemay
11-15-2003, 10:36 PM
What would perform better, a 12 inch driver in a sealed box with a 100 watt RMS/150 watt peak or a 10 inch driver in a ported box with the same amp? Frequency response is similar.
Gerald Lemay
RuSsMaN
11-15-2003, 10:41 PM
Too many un-answered variables to decide.
Is that a $25 Rat shack 12, and a $300 Focal 10, or vice-versa?
glemay
11-15-2003, 11:11 PM
What I am trying to find out is, will a smaller driver with a bigger amp out perform a bigger driver with a smaller amp?
RuSsMaN
11-15-2003, 11:17 PM
There's no way to give a generic yes or no on that scenario.
What class / design of amp?
What are the xmax, f3 and Q factors on the drivers?
What are the drivers efficiency ratings?
What is the design of both boxes, bracing, wadding, etc?
Do you see where I'm going here? If you have 2 particular models in mind, lay it out - then perhaps someone can speak from personal experience on each.
Cheers,
Russ
glemay
11-15-2003, 11:45 PM
How about the Sound Dynamics THS-3000 and the Velodyne CHT10.
Velodyne CHT10:
10" Forward Firing Subwoofer
(8.2" piston diameter)
Frequency Response: 28-120 Hz +-3 dB
High Pass Crossover (6 dB/octave slope):
Passive 85Hz
Low Pass Crossover (12 dB octave, 24 dB ultimate):
40Hz-120Hz (adjustable)
Auto On/Off
Dynamic Power: 375 watts
RMS Power: 150 watts
Magnet: 40 oz.
Voice Coil: 2" 4-layer copper
Inputs: Line-level and speaker-level
Outputs: Line-level and speaker-level
Crossover bypass: Subwoofer Direct
Cone: Reinforced fiber
Cabinet (H/W/D): 16.25" x 15" x 19.75"
Weight: 53 lbs.
Warranty: 2 years (parts & labor)
Finish: Black vinyl
Sound Dynamics THS-3000:
Go to the link:http://www.helloav.com/speakers/sound_dynamics/ths3000.html
Gerald Lemay
goingganzo
11-16-2003, 03:26 PM
heres a thought buld a sub for the same price as thoes you can have a killer sub. if you can cut a circle you can buld a sub. you can get the mdb cut to size at hd or lowes all you have to do is cut the circle for the sub and the square for the plate amp. also you can buy a pre made box form ltryke they have deals on them at times.
gatemplin
11-16-2003, 03:40 PM
Gerald, I know you arent keen on a DIY sub but Gonzo is right. I built a DIY Tempest for less than $550 Canadian completed. Check out www.creativesound.ca for the amp and driver. It will be in the same league as a SVS PC+ or Servo 15, maybe better. Ask Doc or Ron-P. It is simple, all you need are a weekend, a drill and a jigsaw ($30).
glemay
11-16-2003, 06:51 PM
I'm not going to buy either of the subs I mentioned. I'm just trying to figure out what is better.
goingganzo
11-18-2003, 11:44 PM
it all depends if the sub is not efeshent you need much more power to get the same out from a similar sub with a higher efency. now quailty of sub. most store bought in cc,bb abc cant hit the last octive. unles you want to spend 1-3k at a high end shop. but for the same performance if you buld a sub you will olny spend less than 500. i will put my sub in the leag of the wilison x1 in sheer output but it is proabley not as musical and might have a smigh higher thd. but 18k un powered vs 1k powered. i rest my case.
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