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Spoonman
02-21-2004, 11:20 AM
Since I haven't seen any mention here about this film I thought I'd bring it up. Anyone planning on seeing this? It sure has generated a lot of controversy. Maybe by design and maybe not. It appears from what I am reading that at least on the initial weekend that the box office will be huge. I personally think that this movie will be the top box office this year. FWIW I don't consider myself Christian but I will admit that I am drawn into it all and am eagerly anticipating this film. Anybody else?
dorokusai
02-21-2004, 11:34 AM
I will most likely, as usual, wait for the DVD. I just get tired of the people in theatres to bother anymore. Possibly becoming anti-social :D
I definetly want to see it, but am not affiliated with any religon but the NRA :)
Spoonman
02-21-2004, 11:41 AM
I just get tired of the people in theatres to bother anymore. Possibly becoming anti-social
I understand completely :) . I rarely go myself these days for exactly the same reasons. However most times the last show of the day has very few or no people in it and I have been known to slip in a 10pm show every now and again.
shack
02-21-2004, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by Spoonman
I understand completely :) . I rarely go myself these days for exactly the same reasons. However most times the last show of the day has very few or no people in it and I have been known to slip in a 10pm show every now and again.
The Passion is defintely something I want to see. As the other posters have said, I WILL NOT GO TO A THEATER PACKED WITH PEOPLE TO SEE A MOVIE! I will catch it on DVD or....I have been known to wait a few weeks and head out the door around noon telling my secretary that I'll be at a long lunch and the cell will be off. Most kids are in school and most everyone else is at work. A time or two I've had the theater to myself for a 12:30 or 1:00 showing.
Strong Bad
02-21-2004, 02:38 PM
Just like a few of you mentioned, I am not a religious person by any stretch, but this movie is definitely on my must see list. I guess going into it, you have to have an open mind and realize that this is the way it could have happened back then.
I've read numerous posts from pre-screenings that said it's brutally graphic and intense at times bringing many a person to tears.
I'm planning to see it next Sunday with some family at the glorious Senator theater here in Baltimore. I'll be sure to post my thoughts on it.
John
jdavy
02-22-2004, 04:21 AM
i plan on seeing it Friday if I do not have to work. Looks from the preview like it was well made
reeltrouble1
02-25-2004, 11:34 AM
Well, I am a Christian:D even though I dont always act like it:rolleyes: .
I will wait for the DVD, I heard a report today that the soundtrack is very good and that you can "feel" the blows that Gibson as Jesus Christ takes.
The brief clip it showed was visually stunning even on my bedroom non-hd set.
RuSsMaN
02-25-2004, 11:56 AM
I won't see it in the theater, period, for a couple of reasons.
1. The 'fanactical' Christian (mostly Baptist in Texas) band-wagon jumping gives me the willies. Believer or not, around here at least, they don't seem to be excited so much about Jesus the man that walked this earth some time ago, but almost are portraying him as Jesus the superhero, dawning his cape with the big letter J embroidered into it.
North Texas residents can confirm the billboards and radio spots from Baptist churches inviting people to come in and talk and learn about the film, some churches even had private showings before the release. One man in Plano this morning, has rented an entire Tinsletown (Cinemark) theater - 20 screens, 6000 seats for invitation (church members) only viewing.
2. I don't care to READ movie sub-titles for 2 hours. Hopefully the DVD will have an English dubbed version.
Cheers,
Russ
dorokusai
02-25-2004, 01:01 PM
Can't people get over themselves for a minute and just let a movie be a movie? No need to have a perspective in this world, that's like being free! :rolleyes: There should be an uprising against movies like Swept Away and Gigli....not this movie.
shack
02-25-2004, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by reeltrouble1
Well, I am a Christian:D even though I dont always act like it:rolleyes: .
reeltrouble...I can certainly relate..
Originally posted by RuSsMaN
The 'fanactical' Christian (mostly Baptist in Texas)
Russ - be carefull who you refer too. We (being a lifelong Southern Baptist myself) may feel that you could use some spiritual help and put your name on a prayer and visitation list. We could also alert our Mormon and Jehovah Witness friends to your spiritual "needs". Your doorbell could be ringing for quite some time... ;)
danger boy
02-25-2004, 01:40 PM
the controversy surround the movie will be make it a huge success at the box office. It'll prob be the number movie in the country after this weekend.
Up here in the Northwest. we're seeing the same things as you all are. Churches seeing the movie even before it was released. Last night on the news.. though they talked to some people.. and all said the movie is intense.. but it's historically accurate. so there should'nt be any controversy.
I'm split whether i'll go see it at the mega movie complex or not.
Went to see Big Fish last Sunday. Had a bad experience. this kid sitting in the row behind me put his feet up on the seat next to my face.. every minute he'd kick the seat, adjust his feet then cough up shit. I think he had Sars or some damn thing.
The lady in the same row as me... turned around and gave him the evil eye. 10 mins later i did the same thing. Did he remove his feet from the seat.. Hell NO! Finally, I smacked him on his shoes and told him to take his feet off the back of the seat and quick kicking it. His mommy said.. "Hey, don't touch my sons feet"!! HUH? your lazy ass good for noting pimple faced, meth using brat keeps kicking the seats and it's very distracting during a two hour movie i told her.
He took his feet down for all of maybe 15 mins before he put them back up. Kid was in his mid teens. Mom didn't say anything to him the rest of the movie. I should have gotten up and really smacked his feet OR dumped my supersize Pepsi on his lame ass.
It's punks like this that make the movie going experience such a pain in the ass. I even told the manager about the kid.. the manager didn't do ANYTHING. Whats wrong with kids today. I don't see grown ups doing that feet on the seat thing. Why don't people just leave their kids (any age kids) at home, and let the adults enjoy a movie for once?
dorokusai
02-25-2004, 03:15 PM
You should have just shot him.
PolkWannabie
02-25-2004, 03:23 PM
What's wrong with kids today ?
I think in this particular case you already identified the problem ... Obviously there is no discipline in that home.
This is really gonna light yalls torches...
The problem with kids today was the grown ups of yesterday...
The grown ups of yesterday enspired laws to limit discipline, prayer in school, and other things. If my Mom or Dad *beats me*, I have a number of options to get them in more trouble than I was to start with. Would I do that? No, because I dont get in trouble.
To say most kids cant sit through a movie, well I dont know about everybody else...but if I act up during a movie, especially as a younger chap, I would not be sitting when i got home
BTW - I want to see this movie, cant wait. But I think I'll wait for DVD.
PolkWannabie
02-25-2004, 05:09 PM
Just to be clear ...
I wasn't necessarily advocating beating ...
Discipline comes in a lot of flavors, many of which have the desired effect.
jdhdiggs
02-25-2004, 05:17 PM
My gosh, I can't believe I actually agree with Sid's insights...
I'd have more to say, but I wouldn't want to drive this too far off topic...
Spoonman
02-26-2004, 12:40 AM
Man, is this creating a firestorm or what? I was just flipping channels and it was the focus of conversation on no less than 7 different stations. Seems everyone I ran into today was talking about this movie, Christianty and anti-semitism.
I've heard everything from too much gore to a life altering event. Gibson is a wonderful storyteller/moviemaker to a greedy bastard. There seems to be little middle ground. Not sure if there are any long term implications but at least for now it is the hot topic.
dorokusai
02-26-2004, 04:09 AM
If a movie, becomes a life altering event, then you don't get out enough.
PolkThug
02-26-2004, 10:04 AM
I don't plan on seeing this movie unless blows to Jesus's body yield bass in the the 25-32hz region.
Regards,
PolkThug
rskarvan
02-26-2004, 12:34 PM
Saw The Passion last night - Opening night.
The subtitles aren't an issue at all. There is very little dialogue in the movie.
The caning/flogging scene was very brutal and gruesome. Gruesome doesn't usually bother me much... but, this was done to in a very sadistic manner. I was offended and almost could not bare to watch. Its nightmarish.
Overall, the movie was a good solid B. I would definitely put it on the "Must See Once" list. I don't think I would want to watch the movie again. Its too horrific in nature.
Thats my take on it. I'm glad I saw it at the Theatre. Its worth viewing on the really big screen.
- Ron
Spoonman
02-26-2004, 12:47 PM
If a movie, becomes a life altering event, then you don't get out enough. :D
Spoonman
02-26-2004, 01:02 PM
Thats my take on it. I'm glad I saw it at the Theatre. Its worth viewing on the really big screen.
Thanks for your input. I want to see it in the theater too but think I will wait awhile till some of the crowds thin out.
audiobliss
02-26-2004, 01:25 PM
I definitely want to see this movie, and hopefully on the big screen; that tends to make it more alive than watching a DVD on my laptop. :)
I hope this movie will make everybody see (including Hollywood) that there are morally upright people and Christians in the country who would rather watch a religious movie than most of the junk out there that has cussing in every line and sex condoned and practiced just as often. I hope that this movie might be a turning point. I could be hoping too much, but lots of things start with a small first step.
Billm57
02-26-2004, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by danger boy
the controversy surround the movie will be make it a huge success at the box office. It'll prob be the number movie in the country after this weekend.
Up here in the Northwest. we're seeing the same things as you all are. Churches seeing the movie even before it was released. Last night on the news.. though they talked to some people.. and all said the movie is intense.. but it's historically accurate. so there should'nt be any controversy.
I'm split whether i'll go see it at the mega movie complex or not.
Went to see Big Fish last Sunday. Had a bad experience. this kid sitting in the row behind me put his feet up on the seat next to my face.. every minute he'd kick the seat, adjust his feet then cough up shit. I think he had Sars or some damn thing.
The lady in the same row as me... turned around and gave him the evil eye. 10 mins later i did the same thing. Did he remove his feet from the seat.. Hell NO! Finally, I smacked him on his shoes and told him to take his feet off the back of the seat and quick kicking it. His mommy said.. "Hey, don't touch my sons feet"!! HUH? your lazy ass good for noting pimple faced, meth using brat keeps kicking the seats and it's very distracting during a two hour movie i told her.
He took his feet down for all of maybe 15 mins before he put them back up. Kid was in his mid teens. Mom didn't say anything to him the rest of the movie. I should have gotten up and really smacked his feet OR dumped my supersize Pepsi on his lame ass.
you should have dumped your pepsi on his mom and then smacked him..on second thought give the Mom a fresh one as well for raising an sob like that
audiobliss
02-26-2004, 02:07 PM
I can't help but wonder how many people in here share my enthusiasm for The Passion due to religious convictions. Maybe I should set up a poll; if I knew how, ......
I am there to see it for religious purposes. I want to see it how it happened. I can hear about it all the time, but seeing it will put it in more in prospective.
The church is taking us to see it this...saturday I think. Not sure, can't wait though!
Frank Z
02-26-2004, 03:29 PM
I've a heard a number of reports on the news today of the incredibly violent scenes in this film. I don't think it's a movie for young children by any stretch. There was even a news flash about a women that collapsed and died about 20 minutes from the end of the movie. I missed the city where it happened but I'll post it or a link if I come across one.
It's a shame that this movie is inspiring so much anti-sematism, those who claim to be Christians would never tolerate that kind of behavior.
End of mini-rant.
I agree Frank,
Our pastor explains this, how christians around the world called Jews christ-killers, etc. I iust dont see how people can do that..
wodom1
02-26-2004, 03:42 PM
Here's (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,112560,00.html) what you were looking for Frank about the woman who died.
-Josh
PhantomOG
02-26-2004, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by Frank Z
It's a shame that this movie is inspiring so much anti-sematism, those who claim to be Christians would never tolerate that kind of behavior.
End of mini-rant.
has it really inspired that? i know its getting alot of press because of people *worried* about that happening but the movie just came out right?
i don't know. i think people are responsible for their actions, regardless of whether they saw a movie that "inspired" them or not. and i think alot of people are forgetting that ITS JUST A MOVIE.
if a current movie came out that graphically and violently depicted the Holocaust, would anybody be so worried about an "anti-german" backlash occurring? i doubt it.
if you don't like the premise of the MOVIE, don't see it. if some dumb@ss goes out and performs some kind of hate crime, they will be punished. that's why we have laws. we shouldn't censor people in an effort to try to "prevent" crimes.
if we tried to remove all movies that had violence in it we'd have to get rid of a TON of movies. we shouldn't just pick on this one because it has religious ties.
Frank Z
02-26-2004, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by PhantomOG
has it really inspired that?
To some extent it has. There's a church in Denver that put up a big sign that read something to the effect of
The Jews Killed Jesus. It has sparked a lot of bad feelings and there have been numerous protests in front of the church by both Christians and Jews alike against it.
I should point out that my use of the word Jew or Jews is not intended to be derogatory, it's just the way I chose to phrase my comments.
PhantomOG
02-26-2004, 05:21 PM
sounds like a pretty dumb church to me :(
is the phrase "The Jews Killed Jesus" actually anti-semitic in itself?
i don't know for sure that it is. :confused:
PolkThug
02-26-2004, 05:36 PM
Nice disclaimer on the word "Jew".
;)
I heard a Jew man once speak out about how he hated the term "Jewish". There is no "Christianish".
Also, good point Phantom. It's not anti-semitic in itself, but, unfortunately there are some dumbasses that use this event as a reason to hate.
Sorry, just bantering...
Frank Z
02-26-2004, 05:42 PM
I think that it is very anti-sematic if you look at the fact the sign was put up to coincide with the opening of the movie. Spineless hate mongering in the name of religon, any religon, is pathetic.
PolkWannabie
02-26-2004, 05:47 PM
More so in the last couple or three millennia of life on the planet than in the last couple of decades of movies in theaters, people have been killed in the name of some spiritual deity ...
As in ... My gawd's better than your gawd, my gawd's better than yours, my gawds better 'cause he eats Kenilration, my gawd's better than yours ...
Oh ... that's dog ... never mind ... where's my industrial flame suit ...
audiobliss
02-26-2004, 08:52 PM
I think that it is very anti-sematic if you look at the fact the sign was put up to coincide with the opening of the movie.
I must disagree. Why not put up a sign addressing this subject now? What better time to talk about it than when there is so much controversy about it? If you read the Bible account, it says that the Jews DID kill Jesus; it is a fact. They were afraid of their positions being taken away, so they wanted Him killed.
More than that, though, we all killed Jesus. He came to die for our sins so that we may be able to escape death and share eternal life with Him. He died for everyone of us; every time we commit a sin, we're nailing Him to the cross and crucifying Him anew. That's the important point: that He was willing to die for us that we would be washed clean of our sins and receive through grace what we never could otherwise have acheived.
I don't mean to offend anyone here, and I admitt that the church COULD be posting that sign with bad motives, but I would doubt it, myself. Also, there is nothing inherently wrong with statement, for it is true; it could, however,be used with bad intentions and would thus be wrong.
I'm off my horse now.
Dr. Spec
02-26-2004, 09:00 PM
I won't see this movie in the theater or at home - ever. I'm too horrified by it.
Movies are an escape for me.
I know what happened to Jesus - the bible and numerous church plays told me all I need to know. I don't need to see it with today's ultra realistic and gruesome special effects. It would be an extremely unpleasant experience I'm certain.
Doc
dorokusai
02-26-2004, 09:32 PM
Whose this Jesus guy? I thought this was the new Lethal Weapon movie....screw this, if Danny Glover ain't in it, I'm not watching it.
PolkThug
02-27-2004, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by dorokusai
Whose this Jesus guy? I thought this was the new Lethal Weapon movie....screw this, if Danny Glover ain't in it, I'm not watching it.
Danny Glover IS in it. He is the 13th apostle, Rufus. :D
Originally posted by audiobliss
More than that, though, we all killed Jesus.
I did not kill Jesus.
Regards,
PolkThug
Strong Bad
02-28-2004, 03:23 AM
More than that, though, we all killed Jesus.
Yeah homeboy, don't be pointing that finger my way. My ass wasn't anywhere near there.
In other news, I smell the "Passion of the Hall of Shame" creeping up on this one.
dorokusai
02-28-2004, 03:38 AM
I wish I could kill alot of people, but Jesus didn't make the cut.
PolkWannabie
02-28-2004, 03:46 AM
Originally posted by audiobliss
I must disagree. Why not put up a sign addressing this subject now? What better time to talk about it than when there is so much controversy about it? If you read the Bible account, it says that the Jews DID kill Jesus; it is a fact. They were afraid of their positions being taken away, so they wanted Him killed. A fact ? What lead you to the conclusion that the Bible was a factual text ? How many centuries after the supposed FACT was it written ? You mean a belief, don't you ?
dorokusai
02-28-2004, 05:32 AM
It's just a book, IMO....I hav'nt decided where I stand. Actions speak louder than words, and I think I am doing well in real life....but in my fantasy life, I am crazy, crude and Bill O'Reilly.
ohskigod
02-28-2004, 11:13 AM
i saw the movie, just my 2 cents
i'm not the most religious man on the planet, but the movie did stir some emotion, as any good piece of art worth its salt should.
i saw it for the face value, a movie about how Christ died. it was depicted in a very brutal and graphic fassion, but since crucifications were known to be brutal, it was easy to see why the graphic nature of the movie existed.
anti semitic? sweet jesus, give me a break (no pun intended)
someone made the comparison to a movie about the holocaust being anti german, and that seems about right.
Millions of people are Christians, and i personally think that the people who decry this movie as if it should have never been made would invoke much more anger than the movie itself ever could.
ohskigod
02-28-2004, 11:16 AM
P.P.S.
great soundtrack, and RuSsMan, as far as the subtitles i would usually agree with you. I hate subtitles and normally could never watch a movie with them, but in this case it worked. After a while, you almost forgot you were reading subtitles. I just have to assume the latin added to the whole ambience of the movie, perhaps giving it more umph
I'll definitly be buying the DVD for the collection.
Spoonman
02-28-2004, 11:41 PM
Love it or hate it. This thing is on a roll!
'Passion' Plays On: $64.6M in Three Days
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/articles/news/?id=040227potc.htm
They are predicting $110 million by Sunday. I'm hearing some rumors of certain theaters preselling tickets to the point of no open shows for 1-2 weeks. Anyone else hearing that?
Ron-P
03-01-2004, 01:04 PM
I plan to see this Saturday. The only movie I will most likely venture out to an actual theater this year to see.
Peace Out~:D
jd45177
03-01-2004, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by PolkWannabie
A fact ? What lead you to the conclusion that the Bible was a factual text ? How many centuries after the supposed FACT was it written ? You mean a belief, don't you ?
I think quite a bit of the New Testament was written between 50 and 90 AD, not too long after the fact.
PolkWannabie
03-01-2004, 02:11 PM
Nothing I've ever seen suggests that the majority of the New Testament was written much before the 4th century AD.
Do you have a reference or links ?
But regardless of when it was written, it's a matter of belief and acceptance, not fact.
shack
03-01-2004, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by PolkWannabie
Nothing I've ever seen suggests that the majority of the New Testament was written much before the 4th century AD.
Do you have a reference or links ?
But regardless of when it was written, it's a matter of belief and acceptance, not fact.
http://www.yahweh.org/publications/articles/dates/dates_for_the_nt.pdf
It can be considered as much fact as any other "historcal" writing. We consider documents from ancient Greece, Rome Egypt, etc...to be "factual" and use them as our basis of historical information in our text books (I guess that this can be a matter of belief and acceptance also). As far as the Bible is concerned...belief and acceptance (faith) comes into play if you believe that the Bible was inspired by God.
And, IF you believe the Bible, the issue of who killed Jesus is answered very simply...God killed Jesus...he placed Jesus on Earth to ultimately be killed so he could arise from the dead. The people responsible were irrelevant other than to fulfill the prophecies. Again...this only applies IF you believe the Bible.
PolkThug
03-01-2004, 04:44 PM
Rank the beatings.
A.)Fight Club: Blond-haired guy getting beat up.
B.)Reservoir Dogs: Cop gets beat up, ear cut off..
C.)The Passion: Jesus beating.
My fiance saw The Passion and she said the beat down wasn't as gory as most people said it was, so I'm just trying to get a point of reference. (not to mention, to derail the place this thread is heading)
Regards,
PolkThug
PolkWannabie
03-01-2004, 05:01 PM
No prob ... it was already way off track ... but I don't have an opinion as I haven't seen it ...
I'm sure the producers of the movie are very thankful of the media propelled controversy such as it is. That's worth a lot more than any advertising campaign and a whole lot cheaper.
Ron-P
03-01-2004, 08:01 PM
Looks like FOX picked up the DVD / Home Video rights which means it should get excellent treatment. Hopefully a 2-disk SE loaded with extras.
Peace Out~:D
RuSsMaN
03-01-2004, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by Ron-P
Hopefully a 2-disk SE loaded with extras.
Cool, if 2 hrs of watching Jesus getting his ass kicked isn't enough, you can catch the behind the scenes extras of his ass-whipping. Gotta be a neat directors commentary 'Here we see Jesus getting beat down'.....'and in this scene, you see the Jews open a Family-Sized can of whoop-ass'.
Cheers,
Russ
kberg
03-01-2004, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by shack
And, IF you believe the Bible, the issue of who killed Jesus is answered very simply...God killed Jesus...he placed Jesus on Earth to ultimately be killed so he could arise from the dead. The people responsible were irrelevant other than to fulfill the prophecies. Again...this only applies IF you believe the Bible.
This is my take as well. IMO, if you're a believer, Jesus knew what was going to happen to him and others before they actually did. I mean, doesn't the "before the cock crows, you will deny me three times" passage give us a clue?
shepx2
03-02-2004, 03:45 AM
I'll see it when it gets to DVD.
And for those of you who think this movie is the cause of any anti-semitism, here ya go:
PhantomOG
03-02-2004, 12:48 PM
funny comic.
i can't stand to listen to people who think its the government's job to "protect" them from every little thing that *they* might find offensive.
if you don't like the movie, don't see it. easy as that.
Frank Z
03-02-2004, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by PhantomOG
i can't stand to listen to people who think its the government's job to "protect" them from every little thing that *they* might find offensive.
Who said anything about the government? Maybe I missed it.
PhantomOG
03-02-2004, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by Frank Z
Who said anything about the government? Maybe I missed it.
no one in this thread. just ranting more about all press coverage and supposed controversy this movie is causing. always seeing this on the news irks me, but i guess i should just take my own advice and not watch it :p
TheMaster
03-03-2004, 06:13 AM
As in ... My gawd's better than your gawd, my gawd's better than yours, my gawds better 'cause he eats Kenilration, my gawd's better than yours ...
Can I get an Amen to that....
"I don't have a problem if you belong to a any religion, furthermoe; I respect your religion because it is where you found him and accepted him in your life."
...qouted from a good friend of mine.
Glenn
PolkWannabie
03-03-2004, 10:42 AM
no one in this thread. just ranting more about all press coverage and supposed controversy this movie is causing. always seeing this on the news irks me, but i guess i should just take my own advice and not watch it For this we blame the government ? as opposed to the "we REPORT the news, we don't MAKE the news" press ?
PhantomOG
03-03-2004, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by PolkWannabie
For this we blame the government ? as opposed to the "we REPORT the news, we don't MAKE the news" press ?
umm... i didn't "blame" the government or the press for anything.
i made a somewhat off-topic remark that i do not agree with some people's opinions that the government should censor or protect them material that they might find offensive.
as far as the news, i plainly said that if i don't like seeing it in the news i should just stop watching it.
:confused: :confused: :confused:
I think what Audiobliss meant was...
Jesus died on the cross for our sins. So we can ask for forgiveness without sacrificing a lamb. He is the lamb of god, when we ask for forgiveness, we ask through Jesus. Basically saying, we all killed Jesus. For we all sin, and in our sins, we need forgiveness.
Best explination I can give :D Have a great day!
jd45177
03-04-2004, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by PolkWannabie
Nothing I've ever seen suggests that the majority of the New Testament was written much before the 4th century AD.
Do you have a reference or links ?
But regardless of when it was written, it's a matter of belief and acceptance, not fact.
There is all kinds of reference, here's the first link I found - http://www.bible-history.com/new-testament-books/newtestamentbooks_the_new_testament.html
Ron-P
03-08-2004, 01:21 PM
A 10/10 from me. I have yet to see a film as powerful as this or as moving, emotionally and physically. It was difficult to get up out of that chair when the movie ended.
I still cannot find the words to descride this film. I was left in awe.
Peace Out~:D
amulford
03-14-2004, 02:26 AM
I just got back from seeing it. Stunning. The story in and of itself is a testament to the weakness of man, the deceit and self servitude depicted of the Jewish elders was very well portrayed.
The depiction of the suffering at the hand of man, albeit unknowingly for the forgiveness of his own sins, was gripping.
I have read that many think it is too graphic and violent. I don't think so. In all reality, it probably would pale in comparison to the real thing.
Mary Ann, my better half, made an excellent point. Maybe it will make some people appreciate the meaning of the cross, which has come to be rather under appreciated for it's true symbolism.
People in the theatre were crying and covering their eyes, I thought it was beautiful.
Grimster74
03-14-2004, 09:06 AM
Finally went to the movies for the first time since American Pie 2, Yes, its been that long. Anywho, I'm with Ron-P on this one. This is the absolute first movie I have every gone to and 10 minutes into the movie all the way up to the end of the movie (including credits) you can physically hear people breathing. I must give credit to Mel Gibson for having the balls to make a movie of this callibar (sp) This movie will make you greive as if it is happening to you. As a Christian, you know what to expect when you walk into the theater, but to see this movie and to be able to put a picture with what you have read in the Bible is something totally different. A must see if you have not seen it.
Spoonman
03-17-2004, 04:24 PM
Just as an update:
$267 Million and counting............
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=passionofthechrist.htm
PolkThug
03-17-2004, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by Spoonman
$267 Million and counting............
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PTL!! ;)
Ron-P
03-17-2004, 05:51 PM
Specualtion is that this will brake "The Matrix" record and hold the #1 spot for an R rated movie.
Peace Out~:D
scottvamp
03-17-2004, 07:42 PM
Talks about a part II the "Resurection". I was joking about it in the beginning. Classic........
amulford
03-17-2004, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by scottvamp
Talks about a part II the "Resurection". I was joking about it in the beginning. Classic........
If it was as artfully done as this was I think that's cool. It is a more realistic version of events that have been presented in in a very one sided version for centuries. Kind of a wake up, IMHO.
Ron-P
03-17-2004, 08:59 PM
Where did you hear about these "talks"?
I find it hard to believe he'd do something like that. The Passion covers it all, no need to go any further with the story.
Peace Out~:D
scottvamp
03-18-2004, 08:04 PM
Come on Ron get past the religion cover and it was all about the money - that is why he put up 35 mil of his own because he know is would be very contraversal and bring in the dough. How much of the intake will go to any kind of religious charity?????
Like my Father said "the death of Jesus is not that great of a story - the resurrection of Christ is what is important".
But believe me with the take on this movie a sequel is sure to be pressed. I personally am no longer religious so I can look at this movie from a different point of view and I may choise not to watch it at all. Many churches are saying it is a SIN not to go see The Passion - now that is what I call Box Office power. I don't see M. Gidson as some kind of prophet - I see a man that has done MANY drugs (very apperent from his interviews) and had an excellent idea for a huge profit movie.
OK i am done - ranting.
Just my personal point of view.
;)
Tour2ma
03-19-2004, 06:26 AM
OOOOooooooooo yur gowin' strait to hell...
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Ron-P
03-19-2004, 11:55 AM
Money and Religion aside. There's just not enough interesting story left to entertain people for 2 hours.
Peace Out~:D
jd45177
03-19-2004, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by Ron-P
Money and Religion aside. There's just not enough interesting story left to entertain people for 2 hours.
Peace Out~:D
I disagree, I think the enactment of the 40 days leading to the Resurrection would be great to tell, as well as Paul's travels.
Ron-P
03-19-2004, 12:15 PM
Ok, so now were switching to prequel instead of sequel? Sure, there's plenty of story leading up to the Resurrection, but what Scott was talking about was a sequel.
Peace Out~:D
jd45177
03-19-2004, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by Ron-P
Ok, so now were switching to prequel instead of sequel? Sure, there's plenty of story leading up to the Resurrection, but what Scott was talking about was a sequel.
Peace Out~:D
Prequel? I don't think so.
Ron-P
03-19-2004, 01:27 PM
I disagree, I think the enactment of the 40 days leading to the Resurrection would be great to tell
Prequel? I don't think so.
:confused:
Peace Out~:D
jd45177
03-19-2004, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by Ron-P
:confused:
Peace Out~:D
The Resurrection would be a prequel to "The Passion Of The Christ"?
That's what I read that you said.
If so, grab a Bible, it's better than the movie anyway.
Ron-P
03-19-2004, 02:26 PM
What I was referring to, for a sequel (I believe Scott was as well), would be the time period between His resurrection and ascension. I don't see enough there that would make a sequel that would entertain people.
If so, grab a Bible, it's better than the movie anyway.
That goes without saying. It's been about 20 years since I've read. This movie has inspired me to go and start reading again.
Peace Out~:D
Spoonman
03-25-2004, 09:24 PM
So far $300 Mil as it moves into #18 all time.
Spoonman
03-25-2004, 09:25 PM
As an aside:
'Passion of Christ' moves man to confess killing 'suicide' victim
By ERIC HANSON
Copyright 2004 Houston Chronicle
RICHMOND -- Detectives say the death of a 19-year-old woman originally ruled a suicide has turned into a murder case after a repentant man who'd watched The Passion of the Christ confessed to killing her because she was carrying his child.
Fort Bend County Sheriff's Detective Mike Kubricht said today that investigators thought Ashley Nicole Wilson had hanged herself in January. Earlier this month, however, 21-year-old Dan R. Leach of Rosenberg turned himself in after watching Mel Gibson's controversial movie about the last hours of Christ's life and Leach decided to seek redemption, Kubricht said.
The young woman's body was found by her mother Jan. 19 in her Richmond-area apartment. The Harris County Medical Examiner ruled her death a suicide caused by asphyxia due to external compression with a ligature.
Then, on March 7, Leach, who had known the victim for many years, walked into the Fort Bend County Sheriff's Department headquarters and confessed to killing her. RESOURCES
Kubricht said Leach told investigators he carefully planned the killing to make it look like a suicide. The suspect allegedly strangled Wilson because he did not want to raise her unborn child or be involved with her anymore, Kubricht said.
A grand jury indicted Leach Monday and he was arrested the next day. He is being held on $100,000 bond.
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/topstory/2467592
dorokusai
03-25-2004, 10:01 PM
I have not seen this movie yet. I am thinking about jumping through my neighbors bay window, naked with just a belt on and shouting "You killed Jesus!"...am I justified? :)
amulford
03-26-2004, 12:38 AM
Is his name Rubenstein? I think you'd have a valid point:p
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