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bullwinkle1968
04-06-2004, 03:29 PM
i am posting these pics hoping someone here can tell me if it is all good and i their is any changes that need to be made.

this is post one pic 1 out of 8

bullwinkle1968
04-06-2004, 03:32 PM
pic2

bullwinkle1968
04-06-2004, 03:34 PM
pic3

bullwinkle1968
04-06-2004, 03:35 PM
pic4

bullwinkle1968
04-06-2004, 03:37 PM
pic5

bullwinkle1968
04-06-2004, 03:39 PM
pic6

bullwinkle1968
04-06-2004, 03:41 PM
pic7

bullwinkle1968
04-06-2004, 03:43 PM
pic8

bullwinkle1968
04-06-2004, 03:45 PM
pic9

this is the last one sorry i miss counted

hoosier21
04-06-2004, 03:48 PM
are any of those bundled or coiled up cables - digital fiber optic?

again just a thought, but if you have your fiber optic cables snuggled up, bent or anything you can loose information.

Willow
04-06-2004, 03:48 PM
one thing why is the whole thing on an angle and not flat against the wall with the clock only cause the spakers (mains) are really close to the walls?? the rest seem good do you always keep your blinds closed ?? the sun can damage the equip.

PolkWannabie
04-06-2004, 03:48 PM
Can you show a more close up pic of the back of the amp, in particular the connection for the speakers at the amp.

bullwinkle1968
04-06-2004, 04:00 PM
i half too go to the doctors in 10 minutes so when i get back i can take more pics closer up. i will be back ond online with some more pics in two hours.

in regards to the digital fiberoptic cables yes they are bundled but very loosely just to keep them from hanging down around the reciever becasue of the heat.

and yes i do keep my shades shut at all times on that side of my home due to the neighbor is a pshyco and her friends are peeping toms.

i haveit cornered to give more air circualtion behind the HT and also their is a heat vent and air vent back their so during the summer when ihave the air on it keps the HT cool andduring the winter i have madea complet block out for heat togo back their so it does not get hot and a fan to circualte air.

see you al in two hours.

Willow
04-06-2004, 04:25 PM
IC no makes sense with the heat vent right there !!! nice job though... I aswell was concerned with the cable wound up like that but if you say it's loose then its cool

bullwinkle1968
04-06-2004, 06:03 PM
pic 1

bullwinkle1968
04-06-2004, 06:05 PM
pic 2

bullwinkle1968
04-06-2004, 06:07 PM
pic 3

bullwinkle1968
04-06-2004, 06:09 PM
pic 4

bullwinkle1968
04-06-2004, 06:10 PM
final picture blury picture but the best i could take this is of my dvd.

disneyjoe7
04-06-2004, 06:16 PM
Bull,

I remember that you have bi-wired your RTi150's. So lets figure where your popping noise is coming from. Remove the RCA input's to the amp that is powering the RTi150's. I think you are powering the woofers with that right?

bullwinkle1968
04-06-2004, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by disneyjoe7
Bull,

I remember that you have bi-wired your RTi150's. So lets figure where your popping noise is coming from. Remove the RCA input's to the amp that is powering the RTi150's. I think you are powering the woofers with that right?

currently i am watching a movie that has alot of highs and lows and so far no popping since i change wires let see how it goes for the next couple hours and seeif i still get them.

question what would happen if i put my junction back on my speakers and still leave it biwired.(the gold plate on the terminals)

what would happen.

AsSiMiLaTeD
04-06-2004, 06:34 PM
If you have to set the room up that way, then this really doesn't matter much, but do you know how much sound quality you're losing by having that thing caty-cornered?

bullwinkle1968
04-06-2004, 06:39 PM
my front room is so big and oblong that if i do not have it this way i will lose sound quality for one and for 2 no one on the othe side of the living room can see the tv because of the big screen you can only see the tv picture at an angle of 33% to either side so having it cornered is my only solution.

PolkWannabie
04-06-2004, 06:40 PM
If they are biWIRED I have HEARD that there should be no problem doing this from what should be a reliable source but I have no first hand knowledge ...

HOWEVER, you have your speakers biAMPED, don't you ? and that would cause a large problem.

The reason I wanted to see a close up of the speaker connects at the amp is that even in the smaller pic it looked like there were speaker cables coming from only PLUS ( RED ) terminals. I think you have the amp bridged, right ? and I'm not that familiar with that amp but it looks like they're connected correctly.

AsSiMiLaTeD
04-06-2004, 06:48 PM
I've got that same amp and am doing the same thing with my 150s. You've got the amp hooked up fine, no problem there...just make sure you're using the gain and switch for channel 1 on the back...

And yes, you're bi-amped, not bi-wired...

Hopefully my suspicion about the wires will be correct and your problem will be gone...

On, and DONT use those jumpers when bi-amping. I've not tried that and can't comment what exactly would happen, but I'm positive nothing good could come out of that...

disneyjoe7
04-06-2004, 06:59 PM
Your right it's Bi-amp'd not Bi-wired. ;)

I think he is using the front amp on the AVR for the tweeter / mid. The other amp for the woofers on the RTi150's.

AsSiMiLaTeD
04-06-2004, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by disneyjoe7
Your right it's Bi-amp'd not Bi-wired. ;)

I think he is using the front amp on the AVR for the tweeter / mid. The other amp for the woofers on the RTi150's.
Yep...I think that's what we all suggested...

gidrah
04-06-2004, 10:55 PM
I would not do that. While it seems like it would work fine, it just gives me an uneasy feeling. If he was using an active XO it'd be different.

I think it's pic #4:

I'm only kinda familiar with your amp. Is this a multi-channel that you have bridged, and are then using in conjunction with your AVR to bi-amp?

HBombToo
04-06-2004, 11:21 PM
If your bi-amped that was a bad suggestion on my part bud. My Bad but when I looked at it I thought you were just bi-wired.

Good catch guys.

HBomb

bullwinkle1968
04-06-2004, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by gidrah
I would not do that. While it seems like it would work fine, it just gives me an uneasy feeling. If he was using an active XO it'd be different.

I think it's pic #4:

I'm only kinda familiar with your amp. Is this a multi-channel that you have bridged, and are then using in conjunction with your AVR to bi-amp?


yes it is the hk pa 2000

HBombToo
04-06-2004, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by bullwinkle1968
currently i am watching a movie that has alot of highs and lows and so far no popping since i change wires let see how it goes for the next couple hours and seeif i still get them.



Changed what wires?

HBomb

AsSiMiLaTeD
04-06-2004, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by HBombToo
Changed what wires?

HBomb
He put his new speaker wires on today...thicker better wire...

HBombToo
04-06-2004, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by Polkmaniac
He put his new speaker wires on today...thicker better wire...

are they still bi amped maniac?

HBomb

bullwinkle1968
04-06-2004, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by HBombToo
are they still bi amped maniac?

HBomb

yes they are still bi amped.


i thought bi amped and bi wired were useing an extra amp and also useing additional wire which was called bi wireing but i guess all i got is bi amping

and the wire i am useing know is original monter thx certified 12 gauge with the turbine cut monster blades. i would have liked to use banana plugs but they are to easy to break.

AsSiMiLaTeD
04-07-2004, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by bullwinkle1968
yes they are still bi amped.


i thought bi amped and bi wired were useing an extra amp and also useing additional wire which was called bi wireing but i guess all i got is bi amping


Nah, you either Bi-amp OR bi-wire. Bi-amping will almost always yeild the better result (as long as you're using quality amps on both sets which you are) becuase you're using a separate power source for each set of terminals.

With bi-wiring, you're just using the same power source for both terminals, but splitting between the highs and lows, with the idea that you'd get better of both this way.

You'll find varying opinions on bi-wiring, some think it helps, some do not. I've never tried it.

But almost anyone will agree that bi-amping yeilds a great improvement depending on how much power you're adding...

bullwinkle1968
04-07-2004, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by Polkmaniac
Nah, you either Bi-amp OR bi-wire. Bi-amping will almost always yeild the better result (as long as you're using quality amps on both sets which you are) becuase you're using a separate power source for each set of terminals.

With bi-wiring, you're just using the same power source for both terminals, but splitting between the highs and lows, with the idea that you'd get better of both this way.

You'll find varying opinions on bi-wiring, some think it helps, some do not. I've never tried it.

But almost anyone will agree that bi-amping yeilds a great improvement depending on how much power you're adding...

I was checking out the sunfire amp for $4000 dollars and i cannot believe how someone can make an amp so small and so lite with that much power. i think $4000 is just a but too much for an amp
and they also had a reciever that needed an amp to get any signal out of it that costed almost the same amount.

i think HK is where i'll stay for a log as i can.

HBombToo
04-07-2004, 12:26 AM
Dude my Bad earlier... I thought you were biwired on your mains which is the way it looked from your pics. That said good thing you checked first. Picture say 1000 words but in this case I was wrapped around the axil.

So the new cables seem to be working?

HBomb