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bnrimal
04-25-2004, 03:42 PM
Need advice on a univeral player under $500.
Any news on the new Yamaha 1500.
I have a Denon 1803, Polk RM 6700/303.
1803 has crossovers at 80/100/120, but does this really matter on Analog 5.1 outputs from the players. I heard that these analog signals are not manupulated by the receiver decoders.
What would be the best setup for DVD Audio / SACD so that I don't loose out on the Bass, only high end players have crossovers at 120.
therockman
04-28-2004, 08:32 AM
Does that Denon 1803 have the 5.1 analog input? Because that is the only way that you are going to get the audio from the high resolution (copy protected) audio formats such as DVD-A and SACD into your reciever. So the hook up of your new universal player will have to be done via 3 pairs of old fashioned analog RCA style jacks. In addition, you can also have a toslink or coax to transfer your DVD's dolby digital or DTS signal, if your reciever has a built in decoder for these signals. A lot of people use the Pioneer 563A universal, but I really don't know about the quality of this unit. I have a dedicated SACD player and when I move into DVD-A, I plan to get a dedicated DVD-A player. I do not like the idea of a universal player.
Rocky
Frank Z
04-28-2004, 09:29 AM
http://clubpolk.polkaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=177042#post177042
therockman
04-28-2004, 10:37 AM
FrankZ,
I am sure that you were trying to help, but that other thread has absolutely nothing at all to do with this thread. That other thread dealt with bass anagement issues that are user adjustable on the Denon 1803 reciever in the digital domain, but this thread is asking about high resolution audio, which you know very well by passes all of the DSP circuitry of the reciever, and consequently there is no bass management adjustments that can be applied. Because bnriml is a newbie here, we must be very careful to give him correct and accurate information. Any mistakes could cause confusion, and lead to a very dissatisfied home theatre enthusiast.
Because we are talking about high resolution audio, the bass management must be done in the player only, and the signal will be passed to the reciever in the analog domain. At this level, the only control that the reciever offers is merely volume adjustment.
Rocky
F1nut
04-28-2004, 01:26 PM
In the interest of accurate information, calling someone a home theatre enthusiast when they are talking about hi-rez music formats could be confusing. It seems as though music enthusiast or audiophile would be a better description. ;)
therockman
04-28-2004, 03:44 PM
You are so right F1nut. I do appoligize for the mix-up in nomenclature. I myself consider myself an audiophile, but I happen to listen to music on my all purpose home theatre.
Rocky
PolkWannabie
04-28-2004, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by therockman
I have a dedicated SACD player and when I move into DVD-A, I plan to get a dedicated DVD-A player. I do not like the idea of a universal player.
Rocky Have you got a preamp with multiple sets of 5.1 inputs ?
therockman
04-28-2004, 04:07 PM
No, I do not own a preamp, but my cheapo Sony STR-DE895 has 2 sets of multi-channel analog inputs, one is a 7.1 and one is a 5.1. I am happy so far with this cheap reciever, and it has opened my eyes to all sorts of oppurtunities. I will upgrade as soon as I can, but right now I think that I spend too much on software. I got my SACD player 9 months ago and I have already bought 127 SACDs. I think that software is important, but I do plan on upgradeing my hardware.
Rocky
PolkWannabie
04-28-2004, 08:42 PM
Source material is what it's about. Without it, it's pointless to buy the other stuff.
therockman
04-28-2004, 09:39 PM
PolkWannabie, Thank you man, I have to read that post to my wife.
Rocky
PolkWannabie
04-28-2004, 09:41 PM
WAF is a different ball game ... You gotta let her get material that she's interested in even if it ain't your fav.
therockman
04-28-2004, 09:44 PM
Man, You are so right about that WAF, LOL!!!!
Rocky
PolkWannabie
04-28-2004, 10:07 PM
Another reason to have multiple rigs ... she wants to listen to country or whatever that you don't want to listen to then you head for rig #2 ...
But if you give her her own rig somewhere that's decent quality and significantly less trouble to operate then that's where she'll do most of her listening that you don't want to listen to and you got the primary rig to listen to your stuff and the stuff you can both deal with.
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