DooM3

[Terrax]

How many of you plan to get DooM3? I know I am, but I was just wondering how many more are "addicted" (or should I say, enjoy) to these games. The music is supposed to be awesome, not to even mention the graphics. ;)

[shepx2]

I'll wait till I get a good deal on it on ebay, or on sale somewhere.

[Demiurge]

Originally posted by Terrax
How many of you plan to get DooM3? I know I am, but I was just wondering how many more are "addicted" (or should I say, enjoy) to these games. The music is supposed to be awesome, not to even mention the graphics. ;)

I'll be getting it for sure. I just bought a new CPU and videocard so I can actually play these next-gen games. Can't wait...just a couple more days though!

[Steve@3dai]

Picked it up today. I played it at work today for a bit, pretty amamzing, even on low detail!

Just moved into a new place and my computer isn't set up yet though (this laptop couldn't play it... heh)

[Strong Bad]

What are they recommending as far as equipment specs?

Video, processor, RAM, etc...


John

[gatemplin]

I am an id software addict. This week I have played Doom 2, Quake 2, and Return to Castle Wolfenstein. I will get Doom3 when the new video cards come out.

John,

Here are the requirements:

Microsoft Windows 2000/XP
Pentium IV 1.5 GHz or AMD Athlon 1.7 GHz XP processor or higher
384MB RAM
8x Speed CD-ROM drive (1200KB/sec sustained transfer rate) and latest drivers; 1.7GB of uncompressed free hard disk space (plus 400MB for Windows swap file)
100% DirectXR 9.0b compatible 16-bit sound card and latest drivers
100% Windows 2000/XP compatible mouse, keyboard and latest drivers
3D hardware Accelerator Card Required - 100% DirectXR 9.0b compatible
64MB Hardware Accelerated video card and the latest drivers.

[Zero]

Was totally picked over in this area. Damn! Knew I shoulda hit the roads before 1 PM, but the extra sleep was needed.

[Terrax]

I plan on picking it up tomorrow before work. Heres what I'll be running it on:

Amd 2600+
Asus A7N8x Deluxe Rev. 1.04 w/1007 Uber Bios
ATI 9800XT 256 Meg Vid
1.5 Gig Kingston HyperX Ram

Proc and MB are over a year old. So, I'm hoping it will run ok. I have my doubts though. I'll probly have to upgrade real soon.

I've played every Id game thats graced a comp screen, and can't wait to see what this one will be like. Based on the screen shots alone, it will be awesome. Id games get better each release.

[Demiurge]

It should be fine on that, Terrax.

I just bought an AMD Athlon XP 2800 - Barton Core - 333FSB CPU, and I know it runs good on that.

What did you pay for your video card? I need to get a Radeon 9800 PRO - 256MB, but I think they're still like $300 or so.

[Terrax]

I've had my 9800XT for about two months now, and I gave $400 for it. I've thought about getting a 800XT but, gonna wait till PCI Express becomes more standard, then I'll get a new MB and Video card.

[PolkThug]

This is a MUST buy for me. I spent countless hours playing Wolfenstein on a 33Mhz PC over 10 years ago.

[PolkThug]

If you want the MicroCenter Doom3 coupon, leave your email address in this thread and I'll forward it to you.

Regards,
PolkThug

[Demiurge]

Originally posted by PolkThug
If you want the MicroCenter Doom3 coupon, leave your email address in this thread and I'll forward it to you.

Regards,
PolkThug

What is that?

[PolkThug]

Originally posted by Demiurge
What is that?

You can buy Doom3 for 46.87, instead of $55. Good Aug4-8 only.

[Demiurge]

Good deal. Damnit. Too bad I'm not buying it until I get my new VC.

[Shizelbs]

I got it, got a new 9800XT and can't wait to play it.

Oh, its also impossible to play this game at it highest video settings. I read a review/interview saying that at times the graphics at max settings will require a 512mb video card.

[Steve@3dai]

A Radeon Mobility 9600 w/64meg plays it pretty decently.

Go buy it, play it, and then make a judgement on if you need to upgrade or not. I think you'll be suprised!

[scottvamp]

Do you guys think it will hit PS2 or XBox in the near future? I mean the whole $2000 PC computer game set up is not my thing.......
at that point I should just be hacking into my work payroll....
Did I just say that out loud!!!! :eek:

[Shizelbs]

It is planned to be released on the Xbox, but the experience graphically will not be nearly the same.

[punk-roc]

i'm a diehard xbox fan, but i hate cross-ports...get doom3 on pc, it is incredible, i'm actually scared playing the game...and the graphics are amazing =P

doom3 on xbox cant be nearly as good....

and there's actually a story, one ripped off from half-life (who i'm sure ripped it off from something else), but hey, i dont need originality, just a story of some kind =)

[punk-roc]

as far as specs go i'm running:

p4 2.8ghz
1gig ram, cant remember the speed, but its decent
radeon 9500pro

runs fine, the game configured to "medium" graphic level, but it still looks beautiful....

[wrxmy02]

Turn out the lights, turn up the bass..
"’Doom 3’’ features realistic physics, 6-channel surround sound, and real-time dynamic lighting and shadows that create an environment of ever-changing fear and uncertainty. "

Please do tell on the "6 channel surround"

Circuit City $45 this week only!!


http://www.circuitcity.com/gamedetail.jsp?c=1&b=g&u=c&qp=0&bookmark=bookmark_0&oid=98309&catoid=-11621&m=0

[AsSiMiLaTeD]

Yes, it's supposed to be out on XBOX, which is the platform I'll be buying it on.

Is it going to look as good as it does on PC? No, but it will still look awesome!

I've long since given up the computer gaming phase....

[kuntasensei]

Not trying to piss off any Doom fanboys here, but... honestly, I'm kind of disappointed in Doom 3. The graphics are outstanding, the sound is well done, but the gameplay is getting old fast for me. After hearing the hype that they got a sci-fi writer to help with this, I guess I expected more depth. I'm still going to play it through to completion, but... color me unimpressed. But boy, it sure is a pretty-looking game. I just wish they'd made it more like Clive Barker's Undying and not relied on cheap scares.

[gatemplin]

I am the opposite. I dont want a story line. Just lots o'levels with tons of scary monsters and good graphics. I dont want puzzles, dont want to think, just run around shootin' and watching splosions, Yee Ha!

[Shizelbs]

I almost prefer it to have, if any, the cheesiest story possible. Like FarCry. There is no point in trying to make a good story in a video game. Just use something painfully generic and make the game fun above all else.

[Terrax]

Whelp, I got it before having to come to work, installed it, and played just a bit. I'm impressed. Just can't wait to get back home and play it in the dark. I liked to have jumped out of my skin already, lol.

But....... playing it at 1600x1200 kinda bites. I like very fast frame rates, and even on low, it wants to crawl at times. I run all my games at 1600x1200, so its real hard to drop resolution. Oh well, I'll upgrade soon.

[PolkThug]

Originally posted by punk-roc
and there's actually a story, one ripped off from half-life (who i'm sure ripped it off from something else), but hey, i dont need originality, just a story of some kind =)

They are following the original Doom story theme, which existed way before half-life.

[Steve@3dai]

The XBox version will be about at the "Medium" detail level on the PC, and that's pretty freaking good. Keep in mind the XBox is a closed platform, so they can optimize the piss out of it.

The 6 channel audio should be supported by any modern (last 2 years) soundcard. Anything that was advertised at "5.1" should play it. Even my motherboard with a SigmaTel 9758 AC97 solution gave me GREAT 5.1 sound, and it was free on my motherboard.

[Shizelbs]

What speakers are you 5.1 guys using?

I just use a pair of headphones and I still get great positioning from my Audigy 2.

[Zero]

This game has incredible bass... very impressive.

Thus far the game, as predictable as it is, has been impressing me. There is only one complaint, and that is the game shutting down..... in the middle of play.

I know it was optomized for Nvidia cards but damn, give me a break..

[Demiurge]

Originally posted by ATCVenom
This game has incredible bass... very impressive.

Thus far the game, as predictable as it is, has been impressing me. There is only one complaint, and that is the game shutting down..... in the middle of play.

I know it was optomized for Nvidia cards but damn, give me a break..

It wasn't optimized for NVidia....NVidia shelled out the most cash to get their name on it.

[Shizelbs]

Just got done with 40 minutes of it. Now, thats one hell of a game. The graphics really are amazing. I was playing on high quality. I am using a 2800+, 9800XT and 1 gig RAM. It was slightly choppy at times, but nothing to even worry about. The graphics really are stunning.

For those of you who looked at the controls, id did keep the original movement keys so you can play the whole thing by keyboard just like you did in Doom 1. Kinda cool I think. I also love the remake of the fire throwing alien guy. Its awesome.

I really doubt the Xbox will do justice to the game and its graphics.

[Terrax]

Originally posted by Shizelbs
Just got done with 40 minutes of it. Now, thats one hell of a game. The graphics really are amazing. I was playing on high quality. I am using a 2800+, 9800XT and 1 gig RAM. It was slightly choppy at times, but nothing to even worry about. The graphics really are stunning.

For those of you who looked at the controls, id did keep the original movement keys so you can play the whole thing by keyboard just like you did in Doom 1. Kinda cool I think. I also love the remake of the fire throwing alien guy. Its awesome.

I really doubt the Xbox will do justice to the game and its graphics.

What resolution are you running at?

[Shizelbs]

Originally posted by Terrax
What resolution are you running at?

1280x1024

[Airplay355]

do they still have the bfg9000? ahhh gotta love that gun, emptied rooms of monsteres with one hit. of course that was 50 plasma cells down the drain but hey who cares.

how do the graphics compare to unreal tournament 2004, which also has dynamic lighting and shadows, along with their ragdoll physics stuff. better? worse? ass kickingly better?

i just looked at screen shots and the game definitely looks awesome. very realistic. i just thought of something though. the original doom story was that all the critters popped out of hell, so whats with all the alien space ship looking stuff and the robotic or cyborg monsters? does hell have an assembly line for armies now? did they change the story, do i have the story wrong, or did someone just overlook that little detail?

[Terrax]

Originally posted by Airplay355
do they still have the bfg9000? ahhh gotta love that gun, emptied rooms of monsteres with one hit. of course that was 50 plasma cells down the drain but hey who cares.

how do the graphics compare to unreal tournament 2004, which also has dynamic lighting and shadows, along with their ragdoll physics stuff. better? worse? ass kickingly better?

i just looked at screen shots and the game definitely looks awesome. very realistic. i just thought of something though. the original doom story was that all the critters popped out of hell, so whats with all the alien space ship looking stuff and the robotic or cyborg monsters? does hell have an assembly line for armies now? did they change the story, do i have the story wrong, or did someone just overlook that little detail?

All hell has broken lose, on a martian outpost. Demons are coming through and taking control of some of the people. Others are straight outta hell. As far as I can tell, and from what I've read, it pretty much follows the first Doom's story line.

[Shizelbs]

The BFG is back too.

[Shizelbs]

So who here is going to be the first to beat the game?

[Terrax]

LoL, not me, I stop to look at the scenery too much. When I'm not jumping back away from the screen. :D

[AsSiMiLaTeD]

Originally posted by Demiurge
It wasn't optimized for NVidia....NVidia shelled out the most cash to get their name on it.
Well...sort of...

The id developers actually started off working more with ATI for the game. But then someone at ATI leaked out the alpha version (given to them by id for testing) on the internet a couple years back...they put a damper on the ATI/id relationship and was a huge factor in working more with Nvidia.

And while I wouldn't say it was optimized for Nvidia, all the testing in the later stages of development was done on an NForce 2 system with an Nvidia video card... There's an interview with JC about this floating around out there somewhere...

[Shizelbs]

True, but who the hell cares. It looks badass on my ATi

[Demiurge]

Originally posted by Shizelbs
True, but who the hell cares. It looks badass on my ATi

I agree.

The id developers actually started off working more with ATI for the game. But then someone at ATI leaked out the alpha version (given to them by id for testing) on the internet a couple years back...they put a damper on the ATI/id relationship and was a huge factor in working more with Nvidia.

And while I wouldn't say it was optimized for Nvidia, all the testing in the later stages of development was done on an NForce 2 system with an Nvidia video card... There's an interview with JC about this floating around out there somewhere...

The only thing NVidia really had to do with it is shelling out the cash to get their name all over the product. Working with them, yes, but NVidia and ATI are so close in their benchmarks it doesn't matter what brand you have, just the quality. I understand what you're saying, but it doesn't have any affect on the game whatsoever. Anyone who's telling you that is blowing smoke up your ass and it's all a pull for NVidia....which I have NO problem with. I'm a fan of them. That's just the free market at work.

[Shizelbs]

Exactly. One game the ATi cards are better, then next Nvidia is better, and only slightly anyways. Nvidia sure has been slapping their name on everything lately too.

[PhantomOG]

while i think nvidia's wallet had something to do with it, i don't think they only paid to have their name plastered all over the place.

Benchmarks (http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2146&p=3)

The video card manufacturers know that every extra frame per second they can squeeze out on the latest PC games will mean more sales. And one easy way to do that is to design cards with specific optimizations and making sure the game designers use them. So they pay the game makers and you see big partnerships like Nvidia and id for Doom3 and ATi and Valve for Half-Life (did that game ever come out???). Both of the major graphics competitors are guilty of this and will continue to do so becauce it is effective marketing.

[PolkThug]

Originally posted by Shizelbs
So who here is going to be the first to beat the game?

I don't think I'm going to rush through it. I want to upgrade my PC a little more first so I can enjoy the game at its potential. I really need to upgrade my computer speakers as well. Anybody play this with PC surround sound, comments?

http://clubpolk.polkaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21101

Regards,
PolkThug

[Demiurge]

Originally posted by PolkThug
I don't think I'm going to rush through it. I want to upgrade my PC a little more first so I can enjoy the game at its potential. I really need to upgrade my computer speakers as well. Anybody play this with PC surround sound, comments?

http://clubpolk.polkaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21101

Regards,
PolkThug

Logitech Z-Series are the way to go, unless you have the componnents lying around. Maybe that's just me...I won't put a ton into my computer sound system as far as speakers go.

[Zero]

you get roughly 30 more fps on Nvidia cards than ATi cards from what Ive read thus far. Also , people with ATI cards seem to have the most trouble.

[Demiurge]

Originally posted by ATCVenom
you get roughly 30 more fps on Nvidia cards than ATi cards from what Ive read thus far. Also , people with ATI cards seem to have the most trouble.

I depends more on your PC than your VC. I'm really not trying to argue about this...I'm just saying. Next week ATI will have the best card. It's never ending crap. Just get what you like.

[Shizelbs]

Originally posted by Demiurge
Logitech Z-Series are the way to go, unless you have the componnents lying around. Maybe that's just me...I won't put a ton into my computer sound system as far as speakers go.

I argue that Klipsch Promedia is the way to go if you have $500 to blow on computer speakers. The Z-680 are pretty good too... for computer speakers. You can get the Z-640 for ~ $40-50; I may pick them up for those times that headphones get annoying.

[Demiurge]

Yeah, I agree. I wouldn't spend that much though. I got the Z series and it keeps me satisfied. :)

[Zero]

Demi,

No arguement trying to be made here. HL-2 which will be coming out (knock on wood) by the end of this month is sponsored by and optomized for their game. Doesnt mean Nvidia wont run it, not hardly. One simply works better than the other with that particular software. The same as audio, really.

Going to be doing a fresh install of XP later on either this evening or tomorrow. Will see how that goes.

As for PC audio - it depends souly on how much cash you got, and moreso, how much time you spend behind the machine. At this point, Im so glad I did decide to lay down some serious green for the PC.... audio makes for half of the suspensful experience of any good game, especially the likes of Doom 3.

[Terrax]

Couldn't agree more, ATC. BTW, ATI has released a "Hot Fix Doom3 graphics driver" in case anyone is interested. Which does provide an improvement. And as far as Graphics cards go....... The drivers are every bit as important as the hardware. Drivers can make or break a card. Doesn't matter who makes it.

Here is the link to ATI's Doom3 driver:
http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4547.html

[Shizelbs]

Anyone install those ATi drivers?

[Terrax]

I'm running them, and they are working great. Not only for doom, but my other games as well. They are pre-cat 4.9's

[Shizelbs]

Thanks for the update Terrax. What card are you using?

[Shizelbs]

Nevermind, I see you have a 9800XT. Same as me, awesome.

[PolkThug]

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[nadams]

Holy crap.... the more I play this game, the more it scares the shit outta me, and more often.... My new video card is scheduled to be here Tuesday, so then I can _really_ get scared shitless.

[Shizelbs]

What new video card might that be?

[nadams]

Sorry.... I got an AOpen Geforce FX5700LE, and am impatiently awaiting its arrival.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-135-139&depa=1

[Terrax]

Well........ after spending some time digging for tweaks, and finding this: http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14716 and tinking with my config, I've got the game running on my system running on 1600x1200, with high quality settings, 2x AA, and looking killer, at a very acceptable frame rate, without upgrading yet. Which tommorrow I'll be ordering me a new motherboard and proc.

Check out the thread and see what you all think.

[nadams]

http://www.inktank.com/images/AT/cartoons/08-09-04.gif
Credit- Angst Technology.... www.inktank.com (barry t. smith)

Anyway..... I'm running into this syndrome :-). Tonight's gonna be worse 'cause I got my video card today. The graphics are so... damn.... _real_

wow, running 1024x768 at high quality. Haven't tried ultra quality yet. I think I'm getting close to the end of the game though :-( :-(

[PolkThug]

Funny how this little 19" screen makes me jump, I have to get this hooked up to the Hitachi via DVI.

[Zero]

Im there already. I havent been this "on edge" since I was 6. My neighbors said they would take me to watch Bambie, instead it was Freddy!...

I didnt get much sleep last night..... and what little sleep I did get, were nightmares. The spirits in my own home were making noise, walking up and down the stairs.. only complicating the images burned freshly into my mind from that damned game....

I freakin' love it.

[Zero]

Darkness

[Zero]

try this again..

[nadams]

http://www.inktank.com/images/AT/cartoons/08-11-04.gif

[Demiurge]

That's pretty cool Sean. What Video Card do you have?

[Zero]

I got a few screen-shots, most of them are spoilers though... this is truly a dark yet intensely beautiful game. No still picture does it justice, seeing it in motion is a whole different experience.

My video card is rather out-dated by todays standards. ATI Radeon 9600 Pro

[PolkThug]

Originally posted by Zero
I got a few screen-shots, most of them are spoilers though...

Put them in my other Doom3 pic thread, (as long as they aren't from the last stage of the game).

Regards,
PolkThug

[Demiurge]

I just bought it. It's really effin' intense.

[JDOGG]

Hey guys,

I've thought about getting this game since it came out but am not so sure my computer(Dell) will handle it. It has a Intel pentium 4 @ 2.52 ghz, 256 MB of RAM, and a 64 MB nVIDIA graphics card. I was planning on upgrading to 512 MB of RAM and a 256 MB graphics card, or a better 128 MB.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-479&depa=1

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-240-015&depa=1

Will these be good enought to play this game? I was only looking to spend about $220. Is there better for the money? Can you please reccomend something better if there is (from newegg), if it is not a problem. Thanks guy's.

[Shizelbs]

Jdiggitydogg,

Spend more on your vid card. Essentially if you buy that card now, its obsolete in now-3 months. I know it sucks spending more than a couple bills on a vid card, but you don't want to spend a little less on something that will have a short life.

[PolkThug]

jdogg, don't get that RAM, its crappy. Corsair makes some good stuff, but that is not it. As stated above, get a vid card.

Regards,
PolkThug

[JDOGG]

So I should just concentrate on a video card and not RAM? Do you have suggestions for a good video card.

[PolkThug]

Here you go:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-281&depa=1

When looking for RAM, you want a CAS Latency of 2 or less (sometimes referred to as C2). That C3 stuff is the crap they throw in Dells ;)

[Joey_V]

just stumbled onto this thread....

man, i probably have 13 hours logged into the game..... INTENSE! I am playing at 1280x1024 at high settings with 4xAA and 8xAF.... I can do ultra settings, but I personally dont see a difference in image quality.

System:
Overclocked AMDXP to 3700+
Geforce 6800 Ultra OC overclocked to 420/1.1
1GB DDR420 Geil Ram
Audigy2ZS (hooked to 4 LSi7 and SVS 25-31PC+)

Two thumbs up!!!:D

If u want FPS count:
Press Ctl+Alt+~
Type: com_showfps 1
Press Enter

[stereo55]

Heres a very cool and easy to use tool to check your FPS and works on all WinXX platforms .

Link to FRAPS (http://www.fraps.com/downloads.htm) . Make sure you download the latest version 2.25 as some older versions may not work on D3 .


now , please turn the lights back on would ya ........ its too scary for me :eek:

*EDIT* oops , just noticed this was posted at the other D3 thread , sorry .

[PolkThug]

Finally got to the 'Queen Spider', damn that thing is nasty.

[Joey_V]

Im in hell right now..... used up my BFG ammo on the hellknights. I remember taking out the Queen Spider with the gatling gun.... I think it took 2 full rounds.

[Shizelbs]

Hell is where the game finally gets very fun. Its a nice quick and awesome ride from there on out.

[landry_p2000]

What is this game about? Is it on XBOX?

[stereo55]

Originally posted by landry_p2000
What is this game about? Is it on XBOX?

http://www.doom3.com

and the Xbox release date is 10/26/04 ;)

[landry_p2000]

Damn those guys were creepy. Even the fat dudes would make you pee your pants. I bet that would be a cool experience late at night in total darkness with the Polk Audios blasting out surround effects!
Do you have any weapons? I did not see that on the site.

[Shizelbs]

Yep, all the weapons from the original doom are back.

[stereo55]

YIKES ....getting close to the end of the game ... things are getting more intense .... darn game got me jumping pretty good a few more times (*pheeeew*) ... lol