View Full Version : WHO KNEW! Pioneer can make a SUBWOOFER!!!
This looks mighty impressive!
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/product/detail/0,,2076_4061_35327,00.html
But rather expensive, 900 dollar MSRP...
The design is rather interneting, they put the surround over the mounting gasket to the actual edge....and this gives it more cone - moves more air...interesting
neomagus00
10-07-2004, 11:09 PM
loud as hell, yep, they do that - i have heard one of these. but, jl did the surround thing first on the w7s; now let the games begin... :p
LittleCar_w/12s
10-08-2004, 09:09 AM
Man, that thing looks over built.....
With 3 magnets of a combined weight of 320 oz....
Over-Built is an under-statement...
PolkThug
10-08-2004, 01:09 PM
173 db's!!!!!!
PolkThug
10-08-2004, 01:12 PM
Only cost $400 in stores.
http://shopping.yahoo.com/p:Pioneer%20TS-W5000SPL%20Car%20Speaker:1991247914
neomagus00
10-08-2004, 07:10 PM
140 at onlinecarstereo (http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductList.aspx?CategoryID=18&ManufacturerID=628)
exalted512
10-08-2004, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by neomagus00
140 at onlinecarstereo (http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductList.aspx?CategoryID=18&ManufacturerID=628)
its not on there:confused:
-Cody
ronald
10-08-2004, 08:00 PM
how these compare to W7 13.5???
Looks hardcore!!!
Joelsbass
10-08-2004, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by ronald
how these compare to W7 13.5???
Looks hardcore!!!
wow... the way he talks about it you'd think that sub was made of crack.... :p
ya don't like jerk off to pictures of the sub or anything do you??? cause that would be downright creepy :p
That site has the 2000 for 140...
The one we speak of is the 5000
neomagus00
10-08-2004, 11:12 PM
yeah, i noticed that just now... my bad for getting anyone's hopes up (or anything else up, in ronald's case)...
ronald
10-08-2004, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by Joelsbass
wow... the way he talks about it you'd think that sub was made of crack.... :p
ya don't like jerk off to pictures of the sub or anything do you??? cause that would be downright creepy :p
your comments are not really necessary. don't make take out my Honda and smoke you real quick.
neomagus00
10-08-2004, 11:20 PM
::sigh::: here we go again...
ronald
10-08-2004, 11:28 PM
you guys need to chill.
anyone have this Pioneer or are we just talking bull****??
the specs look good does it really perform??
how do they compare to other woffers like the w7, h2 etc..??
Well considering it has won plenty of competitions, I am guessing it is a fairly fine woofer.
Similar design to your subwoofer, surround to the edge of the mounting gasket. Looks as if it can handle PLENTY of power.
Oh, and yeah - it dosnt have JL stamped on it, so it isnt incredibly over-priced and can be had at a decent deal...
What more do you need to know?
ronald
10-08-2004, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
Well considering it has won plenty of competitions, I am guessing it is a fairly fine woofer.
Similar design to your subwoofer, surround to the edge of the mounting gasket. Looks as if it can handle PLENTY of power.
Oh, and yeah - it dosnt have JL stamped on it, so it isnt incredibly over-priced and can be had at a decent deal...
What more do you need to know?
don't know why u guys hating on JL W7 well I don't care I had that W7 13.5 because I found it at very good deal. The W7 is around 700-900 price. I bought it for under 600 with a very well built box thats why I bought it. I didn't want to go through hassel to get a woofer and have a box built for another 700 dollar.
Can I get this for under 600 with a box like mine??? So shut the **** up talking ****.. common sense people..
MacLeod
10-08-2004, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
Oh, and yeah - it dosnt have JL stamped on it, so it isnt incredibly over-priced
MSRP $900? :rolleyes:
neomagus00
10-08-2004, 11:50 PM
the common sense that everyone is talking here is that you can get a better deal on better sound, plain and simple... note cody's post about his brahmas, and to be quite honest, that pair will whoop on the w7 you've got in every way, no 2 ways about it... and like he said only $40 more. need more common sense? You look like an idiot when you're yelling 'shut the **** up and calm down', when you're the only one that's not calm. more? if you've got a honda like you say you do, you need to be in some sort of record book, cause it's a pretty freakin amazing vehicle (can't look up any of the alleged stats, cause that part of the thread was deleted - now why could that be?)...
mac - in this case, $900 might be worth it - i've never been able to compare this sub with anything else, i just know it's crazy loud.
MacLeod
10-08-2004, 11:54 PM
Personally I think any sub over $500 is overpriced, I dont care who makes it.
As far as value, I personally think the ID Max is the daddy. A monster sub like that with massive output and great SQ for $400! Gotta like that! ;)
ronald
10-08-2004, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by neomagus00
the common sense that everyone is talking here is that you can get a better deal on better sound, plain and simple... note cody's post about his brahmas, and to be quite honest, that pair will whoop on the w7 you've got in every way, no 2 ways about it... and like he said only $40 more. need more common sense? You look like an idiot when you're yelling 'shut the **** up and calm down', when you're the only one that's not calm. more? if you've got a honda like you say you do, you need to be in some sort of record book, cause it's a pretty freakin amazing vehicle (can't look up any of the alleged stats, cause that part of the thread was deleted - now why could that be?)...
mac - in this case, $900 might be worth it - i've never been able to compare this sub with anything else, i just know it's crazy loud.
yea I will BUMP the 2 brahmas with my **** which will make a box for 5 dollars after I go to MC donald and buy 5 MC chicken sandwhich. Then go to the toilet and make a box out of my ****.
Just quit hating on good subwoofers because you cant afford one or just don't like the price.
neomagus00
10-09-2004, 12:11 AM
look, let's try this once more. the point is not that you own a bad speaker - it does indeed perform very well, by all accounts, even cody's. however, the issue at hand is price-to-performance, and the consensus is that there are better drivers for less money out there, even considering the deal you got. and no, you would not BUMP the brahmas, that pair would wreck the w7 in spl and beat it in sq too. and what's this about you ****ting in a box?
just as a note, i could fill a car with w7s if i wanted to, i simply choose not to spend my money in this way.
MacLeod
10-09-2004, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by ronald
yea I will BUMP the 2 brahmas with my **** which will make a box for 5 dollars after I go to MC donald and buy 5 MC chicken sandwhich. Then go to the toilet and make a box out of my ****.
ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D
What in the name of all that is holy did you just say?
LOL
I hope the moderators dont delete that. That one is priceless. His best work yet!!!
LOLOL!
Originally posted by MacLeod
MSRP $900? :rolleyes:
Pioneer (to me atleast) is known for setting a high MSRP, most dealers around me have prices 200-300 less than the MSRP.
They also can be had for about 400 dollars on the net.
I don't like JL Audio, I have heard several of their subwoofers at tweeter and for the price, they just arnt worth it.
neomagus00
10-09-2004, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by MacLeod
ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D
What in the name of all that is holy did you just say?
LOL
I hope the moderators dont delete that. That one is priceless. His best work yet!!!
LOLOL!
hurry up and put it in your sig then :D
MacLeod
10-09-2004, 12:16 AM
Well youre in the right place. Apparantly Im the only one on here that likes JL. Of course you join the rest of the world and there is no shortage of JL fans! LOL :p
neomagus00
10-09-2004, 12:17 AM
i can't deny that they sound very good, i just wouldn't spend that kind of money when i could get a better sub for the same or less money... and i ALWAYS go for performance over value... note the lack of subs in my car right now as i choose appropriate models... or look at my home system - rotel and b&w all the way round...
Yes, most brands these days seem to be building themselves off of a name they made in the 80's or before.
JVC, Sony, Pioneer, Bose (the 901), Marantz, Infinity, heck even Polk...etc etc etc
JL is just another brand that uses advertisement to move products and just like everything else, America believes it...
ronald
10-09-2004, 12:19 AM
lol. yes I am the king. and you all are my people. :O
MacLeod
10-09-2004, 12:22 AM
Eye of the beholder I guess. I think JL's stuff sounds as good as other high end gear costing the same amount. I agree that the W7 is too expensive as is any sub over $500! As much as Id love to have an H2 or W7 or the likes, if I were to ever compete in SPL competitions Id look no further than Image Dynamics. Damn near as good a quality but half the price.
Id love to have one of their IDQ 10's but the damn thing only holds 250 watts. Im looking something in the 400+ range.
neomagus00
10-09-2004, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by ronald
lol. yes I am the king. and you all are my people. :O
where the fork did this come from?
exalted512
10-09-2004, 12:25 AM
http://sound-foundations.us/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=22_23_26&products_id=5
brahma 15"-$440
http://sound-foundations.us/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=89
box for brahma 15-$130
yeah....same sound quality, MUCH LOUDER
=$570
-Cody
ronald
10-09-2004, 12:26 AM
I am Gorge W Bush. I will send my ARMY to Iraq. Does that sound better.
neomagus00
10-09-2004, 12:27 AM
Originally posted by ronald
I am Gorge W Bush. I will send my ARMY to Iraq. Does that sound better.
no, that sounds just as random and non-sensical as your previous post - and weren't you talking about common sense half an hour ago?
exalted512
10-09-2004, 12:29 AM
im voting for W
-Cody
MacLeod
10-09-2004, 12:29 AM
Plus, W is from Texas so you know he doesnt drive a Honda. He drives a Truck baby!
exalted512
10-09-2004, 12:31 AM
where do you live ronald?
-Cody
He lives at McDonalds and invests 75% of his money into wigs and toe socks...
ronald
10-09-2004, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by exalted512
where do you live ronald?
-Cody
I live in the CA. I will send Anrold to grope Vr3MxStyler2k3, neomagus00 maybe then they will leave me alone.
So what, you know Arnold now too?
Jeeeeez...
neomagus00
10-09-2004, 12:41 AM
us leave you alone? which one of the three of us came in here unregistered and started spouting about common sense, ****, and calming down all at the same time, as well as insulting us and thereby forcing a response?
and he knows anrold, whoever that is.
MacLeod
10-09-2004, 12:43 AM
Dont be a girley-man!
Arnold RULES!
You just know he's going to run for President. Ted Kennedy (Arnolds uncle-in-law) has already introduced a bill that will ammend the constitution to allow foreign born people be President.
ronald
10-09-2004, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by MacLeod
Dont be a girley-man!
Arnold RULES!
lol
neomagus00
10-09-2004, 12:55 AM
hey, i'm all for that amendment, i think that europeans have a better outlook on life than americans (generalities, of course) - they approach it more calmly, which all of us could use right now.
we're going to pump /clap/ you up...
MacLeod
10-09-2004, 01:09 AM
I am against it. When youre talking about the most powerful position in the world, I want to know the person in it was born in the USA.
I bet Giuliani will run in '08 against Hillary Rotten Clinton.
exalted512
10-09-2004, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by neomagus00
hey, i'm all for that amendment, i think that europeans have a better outlook on life than americans (generalities, of course) - they approach it more calmly, which all of us could use right now.
we're going to pump /clap/ you up...
they approach it like pu$$ies
see: French
-Cody
haha...
Dont want the french running the place where I live... we'd be invaded in a week ;)
Joelsbass
10-09-2004, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by ronald
your comments are not really necessary. don't make take out my Honda and smoke you real quick.
yeah..... have i mentioned how utterly amusing i find you?? seriously, everytime you post i get the opportunity to have a good laugh....
btw, thanks for the new sig, you're off the hook Mac
neomagus00
10-09-2004, 05:06 PM
lol, that's awesome... that means we get to keep it :) europe - live there for a while, then tell me you still hate their style...
ronald
10-09-2004, 08:28 PM
this Pioneer looks very good.
you guys know the box pioneer has for this woofer what is the demensions of it??
MacLeod
10-09-2004, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by neomagus00
lol, that's awesome... that means we get to keep it :) europe - live there for a while, then tell me you still hate their style...
England rules!! Patton said it best.."Its the destiny of the United States and England to rule the world"!
France has cool scenery. Too bad they have french people too.
Everybody else are a bunch of socialists that hate America cause weve been around 200 years and rule the world and theyve been around 2000 years and dont even have cable tv! :p
neomagus00
10-09-2004, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by MacLeod
England rules!!
yes! we agree on something! :D
LethalLee
10-10-2004, 10:12 AM
The $900 mrsp could means the sub wont be backordered by a couple months. This is spl and whoever is louder is king. 173.1 db is somthing to be proud of especially in the large ford truck. I wouldnt mind opening my trunk to show 320oz of magnets. If you think this price is wack the solo x subs cost more. Remember that this sub is only a 12. (beats the 18inch square woot!)
btw how many 5000spl's are in that truck?
there was 9 subs, and 36 amps....
And the subwoofer is actually like a 14" - it has a similar design to ol Ronald's sub over there
LethalLee
10-10-2004, 10:29 AM
spl was actually 173.3 big difference when its that high. Reading this made me think that i might need to use both arms to close that door.
In order to withstand the enormous pressure produced in the truck, steel bars were used to reinforce the frame of the enclosure. The windshield was also replaced and reconstructed with 2-1/2-inch thick plexi-glass. Each door of the truck weighs more than 200 pounds and utilizes 1” x 2” aluminum hinges to hold it in place. To prevent air leaks, crucial in competition, the air inside the truck is vacuum-sealed much like a bank vault. The truck holds 36 amplifiers, 72 16-volt Turbo Start batteries and three Ohio Generator 285-amp alternators and produces 115,200 watts of power.
those arent pioneer amps are they?
gatemplin
10-10-2004, 10:31 AM
It has 10 mm Xmax, although I'm sure Xmech is much higher. It uses a long gap long coil motor, so I guessing BL related distortion would be pretty high at loud volumes. Is this common with SPL subs?
LethalLee
10-10-2004, 11:53 PM
Distortions wont matter if your gunna be deaf in a couple seconds hahahahahha, actually not funny :rolleyes: :p :D Im pretty sure it could make lots of clean volume cause it held over 166db of music for 5mins. Mostly distortion could be elimanated by lowering the volume around 3-4 db's from max output. We want you listening for a lifetime. :rolleyes:
:eek: <--- too loud for this dude
neomagus00
10-11-2004, 12:25 AM
actually, spl subs are built to take extreme amounts of power and convert it to extreme amounts of sound; it doesn't really matter how good it sounds in the interim. any sub sounds decent when it's quiet, linearity is very high at low excursions. sq subs keep this linearity for longer excursions, and spl subs just keep going... and going... and it really doesn't matter how they sound. there are sql subs, and they try to do both, but they're expensive as all get out, i believe - consider the eclipse titanium series. so, gatemplin is right.
Joelsbass
10-11-2004, 09:47 PM
hey, don't forget Adire... they've pulled off SQL within the <$400 price range for the 10 and 12, the 15 still has mad sq and it's only $440 (hmmm... speaking of that i wouldn't mind dropping a 440 in my truck.... now that's some power... GO MOPAR!!!)
speaking of the truck that brings up an interesting story from this weekend... me and my buddy were toolin around through downtown heading to see a movie (ladder 49, one of the best movies i've ever seen, i reccomend it fully) he's got a Z-34(i think that's the right number... not sure) cavalier and i've got a 99 Dakota sport (v6) and this dork in a turbocharged 80's mitsubishi decided that he wanted to race us... firstly he couldn't pull ahead of me which i found greatly amusing... but the best part was the puff of steam and smell of radiator fluid coming from his car as he pushed that little thing as hard as he could... my bud and i laughed our asses off... when i got up next him at the light, i got his attention and said "judging by the smell i think you blew a radiator hose!" he looked so friggin embarassed... It was the funniest thing i've seen in a while :D
ronald
10-11-2004, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by ronald
this Pioneer looks very good.
you guys know the box pioneer has for this woofer what is the demensions of the BOX??
Joelsbass
10-11-2004, 11:52 PM
ummm... the website's linked or you can just go to www.pioneerelectronics.com and look up the model of sub. there should be a downloadable PDF file with all the details... hell it's what the rest of us do when we want to know what a manufacturer says....
***Correction***
actually with pioneers site you just have to click on the tab that says specifications and it's on there... i know what it is now but i'm not gonna hold your hand, sometimes ya gotta start learning for yourself so find the site and look it up... hell do you have any idea how many times i've had to google a manufacturer to find their website cause they have to use wierd addresses?? e.g. eclipse is www.eclipse-web.com not exactly something that you'd think of off the top of your head... so time to swim ronnieboy, either that or we can point and laugh as you sink to the rocky bottom ;) jk
ronald
10-12-2004, 12:59 AM
dude go shut the **** up.
I cant find the box demensions I checked eveywhere ****er.
keep ur pot hole shut ****er.
spwuinmk67
10-12-2004, 01:31 AM
Then look again, and this time, open your eyes.
neomagus00
10-12-2004, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by ronald
dude go shut the **** up.
I cant find the box demensions I checked eveywhere ****er.
keep ur pot hole shut ****er.
jesus, dude, it's at the bottom of this page (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/product/detail/0,,2076_4061_35327_tab=B,00.html?compName=PNA_Prod uctDetailComponent), and if you can't go from cubic feet to internal dimensions, you don't deserve this sub; next time look at the damn page before you come in spouting **** (from your five mcchickens)...
Ronald,
Watch it, man! You've been warned in the past.
ronald
10-12-2004, 01:54 PM
sorry josh.
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/product/detail/0,,2076_4059_105076561,00.html
whats that box specs ? I don't want the demensions of woofer!!
AustinKP
10-12-2004, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by ronald
dude go shut [...] up.
I cant find the box demensions [sic] I checked eveywhere [sic][...]
keep ur pot hole shut [...] If you had really checked everywhere, then you wouldn't have posted this, would you have ron-boy?
Here's a helpful hint: "Don't bite the hand that feeds you." Or in other words that you might understand, IF YOU WANT HELP, DON'T TELL THE PEOPLE YOU'RE TRYING TO GET HELP FROM TO "keep ur pot hole shut..." GEEZ!:rolleyes:
Joelsbass
10-12-2004, 01:57 PM
he just cannot take a lighthearted jab can he?? dude i was joking around, hence the smilie and the jk!!
*sigh*
I'm tryin to help you think for yourself ronnie boy, challenging you so you learn and develop the skills needed to do your own research, we've all had to do it and now it's your turn.
hey look what a surprise
Recommended Enclosure 1.5 Cubic Feet
copied from pioneers website exactly where i said it is, i dunno, maybe you don't know that an ENCLOSURE is the same thing as a BOX.
just don't jump on my case for not coddling you, you've been on here long enough to have picked up how to find things on your own. so do it...
and a word of advice, you keep up the language and derigotory attitude and it's only a matter of time till the mods ban your IP, so behave and you might actually benefit from hanging out here
AustinKP
10-12-2004, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by ronald
sorry josh. Uhh...no you're not. That's why you keep doing it!:rolleyes: You're sure entertaining to watch drown though...
LethalLee
10-12-2004, 03:31 PM
1.5 cubic feet and the magnet counts for uhh maybe 1 cubic feet uhh so build a big box lol. One thing is for sure it gunna have some tight sounding spl compared to other spl subs that take up 5-6 cubic feet.
neomagus00
10-12-2004, 04:48 PM
actually, that's a total internal volume, the .266 ft^3 of the sub's magnet is taken into account. and tight just does not go with an spl-specific sub. the reccommended ported enclosure will produce an exceedingly peaky response; good for spl competitions, bad for music.
MacLeod
10-12-2004, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by ronald
dude go shut the **** up.
I cant find the box demensions I checked eveywhere ****er.
keep ur pot hole shut ****er.
Hey, at least he spelled everything right, kind of. :D
neomagus00
10-12-2004, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by MacLeod
Hey, at least he spelled everything right, kind of. :D
lol - seriously, i'm actually laughing, my roommate thinks i've gone off my rocker...
MacLeod
10-12-2004, 08:06 PM
And we get deleted for discussing tax cuts? :confused:
exalted512
10-12-2004, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by MacLeod
And we get deleted for discussing tax cuts? :confused:
lmao
neomagus00
10-12-2004, 08:29 PM
hehe... yeah, i guess it's like rape getting a lesser sentence than robbery... though not quite to the same scale (although ronald has robbed me of valuable minutes of my life...)
MacLeod
10-12-2004, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by neomagus00
(although ronald has robbed me of valuable minutes of my life...)
LMAO!!
Nah, I love Ronald. He cracks me up to no end! :D
neomagus00
10-12-2004, 08:58 PM
yes, like i said, i waste precious minutes of drudgery in tears of mirth... :D
ronald
10-12-2004, 11:41 PM
my next subwoofer this Pioneer.
007 out :)
neomagus00
10-13-2004, 12:22 AM
::sigh:: why is it that the good stuff has to be wasted on people like this, sometimes?
Originally posted by MacLeod
And we get deleted for discussing tax cuts? :confused:
It went a bit beyond that.
Joelsbass
10-13-2004, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by Thom
It went a bit beyond that.
:( :( all you ever do is yell at us now :( :(
:( :( Don't you love us anymore?? :( :(
;)
Originally posted by Joelsbass
[B
:( :( Don't you love us anymore?? :( :(
;) [/B]
The better question might be "did I ever?" :D
Or just think of it as tough love (http://maddox.xmission.com/beat.html) .
MacLeod
10-13-2004, 02:32 PM
Tell me about it!
You and Josh used to post all the time answering questions and all, now we only hear from you when yer bitchin' at us.
I tell ya, you guys get your pictures in Car Audio & Electronics and now you think youre celebrities and dont have time for "the little people". :D
....am I banned now? :p
I don't know how to ban anyone.
I've been getting features for years, the Civic wasn't the first car. I've been ignoring you "little people" for quite a few years now.:p
We used to come on here quite often but nowadays this forum is nothing but bitching or talk about other products. Not a lot of threads for us to participate in. We just have to smack you guys up every so often to keep things running smoothly.
exalted512
10-13-2004, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by Thom
I don't know how to ban anyone.
I've been getting features for years, the Civic wasn't the first car. I've been ignoring you "little people" for quite a few years now.:p
We used to come on here quite often but nowadays this forum is nothing but bitching or talk about other products. Not a lot of threads for us to participate in. We just have to smack you guys up every so often to keep things running smoothly.
i dont know why...but that was funny
my truck is featured too
see? (http://www.sounddomain.com/id/sntnpirate1316)
alright guys--me and Thom will you see you later---were too cool for this forum now:cool:
*brushes his shoulders off*
-Cody
MacLeod
10-13-2004, 03:35 PM
And on this "we dont talk about Polk anymore" crack.
How much can 6 guys talk about the same set of speakers? We do talk about other brands as Im sure you guys do around the office cause we are into ALL car audio. However when any newbie comes looking for system advice, 99% of our recommendations are Polk gear.
We're here because we're fans of Polk and will support it but we also like to talk about PPI's new amps or DLS speakers versus Utopias and so on.
AustinKP
10-13-2004, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by MacLeod
And on this "we dont talk about Polk anymore" crack.
How much can 6 guys talk about the same set of speakers? We do talk about other brands as Im sure you guys do around the office cause we are into ALL car audio. However when any newbie comes looking for system advice, 99% of our recommendations are Polk gear.
We're here because we're fans of Polk and will support it but we also like to talk about PPI's new amps or DLS speakers versus Utopias and so on. You said what I was thinking, but didn't quite know how to say. Thanks.
You have to read almost everything I write with a bit of sarcasm.
I'm not bitching at anyone for talking about other brands, I just said we don't have much to contribute to those conversations.
Or I can jump in and say how much I love Focal, JL, and Adire...;)
MacLeod
10-13-2004, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by Thom
....we don't have much to contribute to those conversations.
Or I can jump in and say how much I love Focal, JL, and Adire...;)
Well hell bro, jump on in! You guys are pros with a lot more experience than we have not to mention being an industry insider. We'd love to hear your opinions on DLS v Focal or MB Quart now being made in China or DEI taking over Orion and a/d/s or whatever(no sarcasm intended :)).
We all love Polk here and nobody is gonna think you a turncoat if you come off raving about the new Morel line.
OK everybody; group hug!
exalted512
10-13-2004, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by MacLeod
OK everybody; group hug!
we just had a post deleted for that kind of stuff Mac!
geeze--some ppl never learn:rolleyes:
just kidding:p
-Cody
neomagus00
10-13-2004, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by MacLeod
OK everybody; group hug!
isn't the hippy in the group supposed to say that? :D
MacLeod
10-13-2004, 09:49 PM
Originally posted by exalted512
we just had a post deleted for that kind of stuff Mac!
geeze--some ppl never learn:rolleyes:
-Cody
LMAO!!
:D
ronald
10-13-2004, 10:05 PM
anyone had a chance to listen to this bad boy??
AustinKP
10-14-2004, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by ronald
anyone had a chance to listen to this bad boy?? I just have to ask...do YOU even know what the freak you're talking about sometimes?:confused:
spwuinmk67
10-14-2004, 04:03 PM
I highly doubt it...
I think he might have been referring to the Pioneer woofer (the topic of the thread).
Joelsbass
10-14-2004, 05:37 PM
but where's the fun in staying on topic thom???
:D :p :D
The only place you'd come across that sub would probably be an SPL competition... outside of there it's realy not worth the money...
You love JL??!! Now you're Macleod's best friend.
MacLeod
10-14-2004, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by Josh
You love JL??!! Now you're Macleod's best friend.
Great. Of all the allies I could get..... :rolleyes:
Thats ok, anybody that has the ability to piss so many people off for so long a period has got to have something cool about them!
ronald
10-14-2004, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by AustinKP
I just have to ask...do YOU even know what the freak you're talking about sometimes?:confused:
yea UTAH JAZZ sucks. Is that on TOPIC?
do you know what I am talking about now??
Joelsbass
10-14-2004, 11:20 PM
......... so how bout them colts.............
^inside joke... long story short, a girl i know is doing an internship at a hospital while going to Indiana school of Med in Indianapolis, and during her rotation she had to make rounds with a proctologist for a while... everytime he got ready to stick the fingers in for the prostate exam etc.. he'd say "how bout them colts" always good for a laugh with the friends ;)
AustinKP
10-15-2004, 01:34 AM
Originally posted by Joelsbass
......... so how bout them colts.............
^inside joke... long story short, a girl i know is doing an internship at a hospital while going to Indiana school of Med in Indianapolis, and during her rotation she had to make rounds with a proctologist for a while... everytime he got ready to stick the fingers in for the prostate exam etc.. he'd say "how bout them colts" always good for a laugh with the friends ;) That's awesome! I'd just love to have my doctor thinking about some sports team while he was 'fishin'...
ronnieboy...first you must realize that UT is my location, not my home. Thus, I couldn't care less 'bout the Jazz. Besides that, you're wrong...they're looking to have quite a team this season. But how would you know...car audio is obviously your only expertise.:rolleyes:
ronald
10-15-2004, 01:39 AM
don't be a econmic girly man.
lol.
Originally posted by exalted512
i dont know why...but that was funny
my truck is featured too
see? (http://www.sounddomain.com/id/sntnpirate1316)
alright guys--me and Thom will you see you later---were too cool for this forum now:cool:
*brushes his shoulders off*
-Cody
You MIGHT have found it funny because it was a joke. Just a guess.
neomagus00
10-15-2004, 09:43 AM
ah, but it was funny despite being extremely disturbing...
exalted512
10-15-2004, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by Thom
You MIGHT have found it funny because it was a joke. Just a guess.
you guys are allowed to joke on the forum?
man--i thought you couldnt talk about anything unless it was strictly polk related and informational
;)
awww...big mac found a new friend
-Cody
ronald
10-15-2004, 02:53 PM
I found this interesting.
http://www.badmash.org/dishoom.php
anyone know what it means??
MacLeod
10-15-2004, 04:50 PM
Check this out. (http://jibjab.com/)
Watch "This Land" first. Its hilarious.
"Good to be in DC" is pretty good too.
And this isnt political because it trashes everybody! :D
ronald
10-15-2004, 05:25 PM
William the only way to make it is to be a ladys MAN!!
audiobliss
11-19-2004, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by MacLeod
Well hell bro, jump on in! You guys are pros with a lot more experience than we have not to mention being an industry insider. We'd love to hear your opinions on DLS v Focal or MB Quart now being made in China or DEI taking over Orion and a/d/s or whatever(no sarcasm intended :)).
We all love Polk here and nobody is gonna think you a turncoat if you come off raving about the new Morel line.
OK everybody; group hug!
And I second this whole-heartedly. I would love to be able to benefit from the vast amount of experience someone in your position must have; there's no tellin' what kind of help we could get. I'm sure everyone here would love to have y'all join in with all the discussions and opinions. And, you probably no more about what's goin' on with the other companies. :p
MacLeod
11-19-2004, 04:28 PM
I post on the Carsound.com forum and the coolest thing about that place (aside from the super cool moderators ;) ) is there are regulars on there like JL tech guys, Infinity tech guys, super-master-competition-poo-bahs and magazine writers. Of course youve got your fair share of lunk heads but its damn cool to get the final word on a feature of a JL speaker from the guy that actually helped design them!!
exalted512
11-22-2004, 06:34 PM
maybe you should want to talk to the people who prices their stuff and open up a can...
-Cody
MacLeod
11-22-2004, 06:42 PM
Well I have a feeling thats decided by an entire accounting department and probably not up to one man. The guys that post on here are still enthusiasts like us and I doubt the pointy headed bean counters would ever show their faces. ;)
exalted512
11-22-2004, 06:55 PM
i want to work for JL...I know someone that works there is EXTREMELY rich...lol
-Cody
MacLeod
11-22-2004, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by exalted512
i want to work for JL...I know someone that works there is EXTREMELY rich...lol
-Cody
Well as overpriced as they are, are you suprised? :eek: What? Who said that?
exalted512
11-22-2004, 08:04 PM
thats going into the signature..
audiobliss
11-22-2004, 08:53 PM
HAHA; that's almost good enough to go into mine!
I hate JL fans (no offense Macleod)...
Mainly because they THINK JL is the BEST, and their not. Its like talking to Bose fans. I dont know jack squat about CA but I do know JL aint worth the money...
If I get a car system, Polk and Adire...
audiobliss
11-22-2004, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
Mainly because they THINK JL is the BEST, and their not.
First off, it's 'they're not'.
Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
I hate JL fans (no offense Macleod)...
Hmm....I hate JL fans.....Mac's a JL fan.......but no offense!! Hmmm...that just doesn't seem to follow...:p
MacLeod
11-22-2004, 09:17 PM
Thats the stupidest thing Ive ever heard.
First off, if you dont know squat about CA then how can you say JL sucks.
Second, fans of anything think their favorite thing is the best, kind of like you think Adire is.
Third, if I like JL then what the hell does it matter to you?
Fourth, I dont think JL is best. I think Polk is best under $350 and I thing MB Quart is over $350 and I dont really care enough about subs to have a favorite.
Fifth, I hate people whose screen names are too long (no offense Vr3KvKfJrToPsWd54FrDvg$FwEGYhDfErAqSw2K3).
exalted512
11-22-2004, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by MacLeod
Thats the stupidest thing Ive ever heard.
First off, if you dont know squat about CA then how can you say JL sucks.
Second, fans of anything think their favorite thing is the best, kind of like you think Adire is.
Third, if I like JL then what the hell does it matter to you?
Fourth, I dont think JL is best. I think Polk is best under $350 and I thing MB Quart is over $350 and I dont really care enough about subs to have a favorite.
Fifth, I hate people whose screen names are too long (no offense Vr3KvKfJrToPsWd54FrDvg$FwEGYhDfErAqSw2K3).
why dont you tell him how you really feel?
lol
man--you got madder at him than at Ronald...and I think Trey knows quite a bit more about audio than he did...
-Cody
Not even worth it...
People need to learn to read between the lines
Bah, your not even worth it man...
audiobliss
11-22-2004, 11:22 PM
Originally posted by MacLeod
Thats the stupidest thing Ive ever heard.
First off, if you dont know squat about CA then how can you say JL sucks.
Second, fans of anything think their favorite thing is the best, kind of like you think Adire is.
Third, if I like JL then what the hell does it matter to you?
Fourth, I dont think JL is best. I think Polk is best under $350 and I thing MB Quart is over $350 and I dont really care enough about subs to have a favorite.
Fifth, I hate people whose screen names are too long (no offense Vr3KvKfJrToPsWd54FrDvg$FwEGYhDfErAqSw2K3).
Come on Mac; tell me you just forgot to add the smilies in that one....
Nope, I think he is really mad...
and I wasnt even talking about him or anyone with the same knowledge or skill he has...
Heck I wasnt even talking about the same age group...
:rolleyes:
AustinKP
11-23-2004, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
and I wasnt even talking about him or anyone with the same knowledge or skill he has...
I doubt MacLeod is seriously mad, probably just slightly peeved. Looking at it from an outside perspective(mine), it seemed to me that you came across as saying something to this effect:
1 - I don't know anything about car audio.
2 - JL, a strictly car audio brand, isn't worth the money. How do I know this? Refer to #1
3 - I hate JL fans because they think JL is the best.
Although I don't currently own any JL products, I happen to respect their equipment. Their XR comps are well respected among those familiar to car audio (even Cody acknowledges that they're pretty good), and competitively priced. Secondly, the W7, although out of my price range, is arguably one of, if not THE best SQL subwoofers on the market. They are very well engineered. I have heard one, and they are dang nice. Whether or not JL is "worth the money" is subjective and entirely your own opinion. Let's not let that supercede the opinions of others.
Finally, just because someone likes a few models in a lineup, doesn't mean they are an "X brand fanatic." I love polk, but I'd probably never buy a GNX subwoofer. Same with JL. They have lower-quality (and lower-priced) subs and speakers. That doesn't make their top-end stuff any less awesome.
Well trust me...
I meant nothing against Macleod, I was more so talking about how people at my school continually talk about JL Audio and how they are 'the best'...
My apologies to Mac and anyone else that was.....offended....
exalted512
11-23-2004, 11:22 AM
well i start a bashing JL thread so we wont get off topic
its ok guys, its something i feel i must do:D
-Cody
MacLeod
11-23-2004, 06:04 PM
Oh good grief people! The only response that got snooty was the "what the hell does it matter to you" bit. The rest of it was meant as a reply to Vr's statement and never once got personal or out of line....well except maybe the thing about his screenname....and you have to admit it is pretty damn long!
I never got mad at Ronald cause he was in idiot and whats the point? I just enjoyed the entertainment. And I wasnt mad!
C'mon, Jstas routinely rips people new a-holes all the time on here and the one time I get huffy everyone wants to put me in anger managment? Im just a loveable, harmelss little fuzzball. :D
Hey, Vr; I love ya man.
My name isnt that long...
I have longer names, that are much more confusing...:p
I have a SN that is...
Vr3mxdmicblce2k7
Which means, Version 3 MX Dynamic Balance 2007 (POLK TECHNOLOGY!!! :eek: )
And then I have my firest name here...
Mxstylepolkman which was longer! lol
etc etc
Sorry I offended you man!
MacLeod
11-23-2004, 06:34 PM
Damn! Id hate to see your password!
And you didnt offend me. I was just responding albeit in a sprited manor.
Joelsbass
11-23-2004, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by MacLeod
the one time I get huffy everyone wants to put me in anger managment?
hey mac... goosefraba... ;)
exalted512
11-23-2004, 08:32 PM
assphinkterssaywhat
Does this look like a guy you want to piss off?
audiobliss
11-23-2004, 08:55 PM
and what kind of a language are we speakin' here.....
audiobliss
11-23-2004, 08:56 PM
Well, that depends on several things:
Can he reach me
Does he know where I live
Can I outrun him
:D :D :D
exalted512
11-23-2004, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by Josh
Does this look like a guy you want to piss off?
its ok, just throw a hamburger in the opposite direction youre running;)
-Cody
audiobliss
11-23-2004, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by exalted512
its ok, just throw a hamburger in the opposite direction youre running;)
-Cody
ROFL!!!
MacLeod
11-23-2004, 09:11 PM
Forget the hamberger, just run. The problem with being 250 lbs on an originally 160 lb frame is that I cant run to the mailbox without passing out! :(
Thats why I have to be careful as to whom I piss off, I cant outrun anybody!!
What does goosefraba mean?
Quote from Anger Management the movie.
Joelsbass
11-23-2004, 10:52 PM
what josh said... it was supposed to be some eskimo word that they used to get the angry people to calm down... funny movie, worth watching
MacLeod
11-24-2004, 08:24 PM
Oh, ok. I never watched it. I kind of have this hatred for Adam Sandler.
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