I need suggestions with building my new system

[rbarbera75]

Hi All

I just got a new car, an Acura RSX, and I need suggestions for building a new system. My previous car was a Civic and I spent so much money upgrading and changing my system that I just want to do it right the first time and not have to worry about upgrading again. I really dont have a spending limit on my new system, I just want to get the best possiable stuff. I need suggestions for everything, headunit, amps, speakers, etc... I would like to aim for achieving good sound quality so please help me out with building a killer system.

Thanks

[neomagus00]

::giggle:: if money is truly no object, you'll end up putting about 20 grand in. you must have some upper limit, even if it's several thousand, or else you'll be overwhelmed with the suggestions you get here.

barring that, i'd say Focal speakers and McIntosh amps, with KimberKable lines.

[rbarbera75]

I figured someone would say that. :) Anyways I would like to keep my limit around $4000 for everything.

[MacLeod]

$4000 eh?

MB Quart Q 6.5 components - $1000
Xtant 4.4 biamped - $550
JL Audio 12W6 - $500
Xtant 6.1 - $550
Pioneer P9 - $1000
Streetwires wires and cables - $250

[rbarbera75]

Thanks for the post.

What is biamped? Is that the same thing as bridging?

I already know that I am going to put components up front but I also have room to put speakers in the rear. Should I put another set of components back there or not?

[MacLeod]

Bi-amping is when you run 1 set of components off of a 4 channel amp. Youd run the tweeters off the front channels and the mids off the rear. This would give you tremendous flexibility in tuning the output of your tweeters.

Rear speakers are ok if you have a big car like a Suburban or something and haul passengers around frequently. Otherwise, rears are not needed. Not only do they add to the expense but having the same sound coming at you from different directions will smear the detail slightly along with puling your soundstage to the rear.

Rear speakers wont suck but the best SQ will always be achieved with fronts only.

[Lonewolf32]

MB Quarts, Infinity, Focal, and Image Dynamics are great for componet sets. Image Dynamic has HLCD ( Horn Loaded Compresion Driver) componet sets that are awesome, and I believe Focal also has them. I think Horns are better for sq, but just my personal opinion.

For Amps check out the new Hifonics amps http://www.maxxsonics.com/hifonics/ampsnew_genxx.html

Subs look into Image dynamics: IDQ12 V.2s or IDMAX 12 and Adire Audio: Brahma 12" http://www.adireaudio.com/

Custic has a nice cross over thats 6 ins and 6 out with the sub out having a 36 db slope.

Headunits Nokimichi (i know I cant spell lol), Kenwood, and the new Panisonic stuff looks cool and the specs seem to be inline.

well good luck, and let us know what you go with and how things are coming along.

[spwuinmk67]

Originally posted by MacLeod
$4000 eh?

MB Quart Q 6.5 components - $1000
Xtant 4.4 biamped - $550
JL Audio 12W6 - $500
Xtant 6.1 - $550
Pioneer P9 - $1000
Streetwires wires and cables - $250

To save some money in one spot, and add to another. The q's you can get for like $600 from speedsound. The P9 also has two seperate units, the HU which is like $1000-1200, and then the eq thats made for it, which is another $800 or so, but its a 31-band, independant left and right eq. So you've got 31 bands for the left, and another 31 for the right. Thats a lot of tuning, but if you goin with the best, why not go with what makes it the best.

[neomagus00]

1 Focal K2 Power 6.5" 3-ways, ~$800, retail
3 Zapco Reference 350.2 ~$470 each, retail

1 Diamond Audio D9 series 12" Dual-4 Ohm ~$370
1 Zapco Reference 1100.1 ~$1100, retail

1 Zapco 2-way xover,
2 Zapco 30 band eq ~$500 each, retail
A few Symbilink cables and adaptors

1 Pioneer Premier P960MP, $445, www.mainstreet-audio.com

A couple hundred for stinger expert equipment - capacitor, power/ground, speaker wires, NO RCAs! :D

Mine puts you closer to 5500, but this gives you amazing sound, ridiculously low noise, and plenty of volume when you want it.

[rbarbera75]

Thanks for the suggestions and the website.

Whats the difference between Pioneer and Premier? Is Premier a better brand? I did notice that on the HU that you suggested that the Premier has 6.5V preouts instead of 4V on the Pioneer.

[neomagus00]

They're both Pioneer, but Premier is their best line. At your price level, there is absolutely no reason not to go Premier (should you choose Pioneer - again, at this level, the choice between Pioneer, Alpine, and Kenwood is purely personal, based on ease of use and cosmetics). Note, however, that the preout voltage matters - higher is better - UNLESS you use a line driver, as is included in my setup.

Again, at this level, the choice of speaker is very personal. Focal has been described as 'surgical' which appeals to me personally. Other flavors could be 'warm', 'rich', 'smooth', 'natural', etc. All of these are personal choices, the only way to find out which you like is to go and listen. At this level, you may have to travel a significant distance to hear the stuff, but the work will be absolutely worth it.

A few good places to learn the basics, if you aren't already familiar:
www.crutchfieldadvisor.com
www.bcae1.com
www.mobileaudio.com/rac-faq

[MacLeod]

This is the P9 I would recommend. (http://pioneerelectronics.com/pna/product/detail/0,,2076_4041_34724,00.html) In my opinion its about the best head unit on the market.

These prices are retail prices and you can probably get better deales online but be careful who you order from. Unauthorized dealers will be much cheaper but you could get ripped off.

[neomagus00]

i like it but it's ugly :) (imho) while it may sound better, i think that in a car, even with equipment this good, you wouldn't hear the difference. but then again, maybe you could.

[MacLeod]

I think it looks cool. I like the simple look. kind of like a Denon.