someone better answer this or i'll be peeved

[Micah Cohen]

This is a serious music question.

I know what a BLACK SABBATH is. I understand DEEP PURPLE; it's a color. I know what THE DOORS are. I even know the whole story behind the name LED ZEPPELIN. STEELY DAN, heh heh, I know what that is, too.

I know why the band is called GUNS N'ROSES. I know what a SKID ROW is. I know who TESLA is named after. I know what a WARRANT is, and -- for all you Marylanders -- I understand what KIX are.

I know what Coverdale is thinking when he calls the band WHITESNAKE. I know what a MOTLEY CRUE is. I know what a QUEEN is, and also what an IRON MAIDEN is. I know that someone in the band is named VAN HALEN, and now we all know what ANTHRAX is.

I even know what a MEGADETH is, and I understand OVERKILL. I can get my brain around QUEENSRYCHE, cause it sounds cool, and I know what an OFFSPRING and a TWISTED SISTER is. I know who STEPPENWOLF was. BLIND FAITH is easy, and so is YES (duh).

You get my point.

But WTF is a "system of a down"?

If I don't get an answer soon, I'm gonna kill someone.

[mjk91383]

why does it matter?

joe :D

[johnnyamerika]

roughly translated...I'm pretty sure it means Sell a Lot of Records. :D

[Steve@3dai]

It's just another one of those "angst" bands because they grew up in suburbia and now they need to vent. Poor babies.

- Steve

[johnnyamerika]

ehhh, well actually they're eastern european or something and most of their music is pretty political....but that doesn't mean the name isn't designed for profit ;)

I really dislike the 'new metal' crap and scene, all these new bands are horrible, limp biscuit, stained, disturbed, bleh! IMO of course! I think popular music is at an alltime low right now, maybe not worse than the Hammer/Vanilla Ice days...the best things coming out at the time were Tom Cochran and Damn Yankees, bleh!!!

I found this rather interesting SOAD 'video'. Just don't chastise me for visiting this site :D

http://download.consumptionjunction.com/multimedia/cj_8700.wmv

[scottvamp]

SOTD--I call them the Rolling Stones rock band of the year.2001 IMO Disturbed is one of the best rock bands in the last several years. IMO

[Micah Cohen]

Look, music today is vapid. I just got the new reissue of BLACK SABBATH's first LP, which has a song on it from 1970 that has never been released in the US, and there is no question that it is such a mindwarp of sonic evil and brain-mushing powerful music that nothing today even touches it. A song from a garage band in 1970 trumps anything even being thought of by a band today.

Be that as it may -- no one is answering my question.

What is a "system of a down"?!

ANSWER ME! IT MATTERS! (How can you join a club you don't understand?)

ANSWER ME!

[Nashvilletitans]

The Name Game
The most-asked question. "It came from a poem our guitarist, Daron, had written, called 'Victims of a Down,'" explains Serj. "He brought it to us, and 'System' was chosen as a better, stronger word, and it makes it into a 'whole,' instead of the people in particular, it's the society." Ultimately, Serj advises people to "Take your own meaning out of our name. It means different things to different people. That's the beauty of it. It's like putting art up on a wall, and going, 'what do you think of it?' It's many different things, on a personal, a political level. We leave it open to interpretation."

really dosen't give ya much though huh? hahaha
Got this from:
http://www.iconofan.com/Artists/s/system_of_a_down/bio.shtml

[johnnyamerika]

I said before 'Popular Music' is at an all time low, but I would disagree that music today, as a general term, is vapid (course you probably just meant popular music when saying that)....right now there are some really great artists out doing some amazing things. Music is perhaps at one of it's most interesting states, as the internet, technology and culture is bringing more genres and people together. Just like high-end audio equipment, there are underground and non-mainstream labels out there pushing the envelope and developing stuff that's way ahead of it's time and way way way better than anything in the 'pop' arena. I LOVE the classics, don't get me wrong, but I think music is the one thing that can draw people from all walks of life together and give them a connection, and I think music today (at least real music today) is doing that. I have maintained all along, and you can take issue with this, that pop music, Mtv, and the radio are for people that don't really listen to music. They more or less assimilate what's given to them and don't look beyond that. Of course, there are exceptions to this, it's not my 'rule' or anything. And there have been many artists that have crossed over into the mainstream and remain classics! But the majority of one-hit wonders and the like are crap, always has been, always will be. And I'm not chastising anyone for liking Disturbed or SOAD or whatever, I say do what you like.

[Micah Cohen]

"It came from a poem our guitarist, Daron, had written... "
Wow. That's a lot of... nothing. I love when "It means different things to different people." That gives it so much meaning. It's like art. And it's like going, 'what do you think of it?' Like. Going.

I gotta tell ya. If you give these guys any creedence whatsoever, you're screwed -- because they are vapid, empty, inarticulate goofs. And they are selling a product to us. And we're buying. We don't even think of these things. "System of a down"? Man, that is just nothing.

Sheesh. What crapola. Goddamn this SABBATH is GER-ATE! You have no idea.


right now there are some really great artists out doing some amazing things.
Name some.

[TroyD]

I'm right there with you brotha......I couldn't agree more. There isn't anything original out there really worth listening to.


Troy

[johnnyamerika]

How about:

Dan the Automator
Mike Patton
Lamb
Beth Gibbons
Massive Attack
Grandaddy
Squarepusher
The Roots
Moby
Digibal Planets
Modest Mouse
Bright Eyes
The Faint
The Strokes
Propagandhi
Refused
Radiohead
Boards of Canada

I could go on, but I do work for a music magazine, so I'm pretty hip to what's out there right now. I have to honestly say there's so much good music coming out, it's just a shame that 95% of the music that is coming out is crap. But that's the way!

[Eddie624]

Hmm so where is this chart or something that says what is crap and what isnt. Wait this is just your opinions and last time i have checked opinions dont mean diddly. SOAD is a good band. And a lot of other bands in this era are good. All you have to do is compare pretty much anything to like RAP then it is all good. The RAP industry is the one area where there is very little musically talented artists. That is the industry where the only way they sell records is because they use profanity constantly. To me when most songs just say the N word every other word that really isnt a quality artist. Some other great bands Fear Factory, Danzig, and yes Marilyn Manson. I almost bet most of the people that dont like the bands of today are probably old and grew up with the "Classic bands". Dont get me wrong The Doors are one of my all time favorite bands. Anyway i have typed too much and cant go on any longer. Need food

[scottvamp]

Black Sabbath gets much credit. But their are small labels out their that produce tons of great DOOM Metal. To write off all new music is an insalt to your intelligence. Like a 60 year old that never lets go of his Elvis 8-tracks. Their is so much music out htier for every walk of life- not like 40 years ago. YOU have to look for it. I listen mostly to Death Metal bands that do not even exsist in the USA. Groups that have 6 to 8 members-playing a varity of instruments-Paris University Music Graduates-- Awesome pure dark poetic lyrics-a complex mix of songs that take you through a jouney. So complex that I like to listen to them on muti-channel DSP modes. Why will you never hear these groups? Because as a nation we are TOO Bland. I mean look at out top ten albums at any given time-- now that's a joke. Real music isn't produced only to make $. And make the youth of America dress like Britney.
POWER and Meaning. Music that can not be made by the average Joe. Music notes that blacken a music bar. Music That America turns it back to.
Enter my World:
Sins Of Thy Beloved
Siebenburgen
Cradle Of Filth
Dimmu Borgir
Opeth
Tristania
Theater Of Tragedy
Mactatus
Love Lies Bleeding
Long Winters Stave
Trail Of Tears
Old Mans Child
Just to spout off a few. :eek:

[scottvamp]

Eddie well said.

The RAP industry is the one area where there is very little musically talented artists
And these guys are F___king millionaires. Unbelieveable. What Crap!

Some other great bands Fear Factory, Danzig, and yes Marilyn Manson.
Great Bands! Danzig IS my Elvis. Go to these shows and you want be standing there like and drooling zombie and snapping your fingers and tapping your feet. And yelling "Freedom Rock Man".
:rolleyes:

[TroyD]

I'm not disagreeing per se, but, man some of the stuff out there just doesn't do it for me. Maybe I'm getting older, I dunno.

A current band that I like, Nickleback, good stuff but it just isn't original....

To me, the last original movement in mainstream rock was over 10 years ago.

I hate to say it, but my favorite bar band of all time was the beginning of the end for mainstream rock - Hootie and the Blowfish. Scoff if you will but you haven't lived until you've seen Hootie at Cumberlands in Charleston. But to me, Cracked Rear View (good album but those songs were meant to be heard in a bar) was the start of pure vanilla in mainstream rock. You can argue that I am talking out of my arse, but that's just the way I see it.

Elvis is the MAN. Period. End of story. Suspicious Minds, baby.

Troy

[wangotango68]

hell let you frekin hair down man! i went to see slayer last month and it was one of the most interce shows i ever saw! bring back
the "clash of the titans" tour with anthrax,slayer,alice in chains
and megedeth.


scott:cool:

[johnnyamerika]

Originally posted by Eddie624
The RAP industry is the one area where there is very little musically talented artists.

Once again, I'll disagree. The Rap genre is no different then other genres within Pop music, be it rock, bubble-gum, or country. You have a bunch of young, marketable, good looking people playing towards materialism and angst, and it drives kids/people to purchase not only records, but clothing, movies, games, merch, etc...The Popular Rap genre caters to largely young, black males. It relates to them in terms of material possetions, women, and politics. This is not unlike rock music, with bands like disturbed, papa roach, etc...who cater towards mostly young angry teens and what they feel. Come on.....'let the bodies hit the floor?' Is that so much more insightful than 'me and my homies with the top down, roll out?' This is money baby. Market to the youth, give them what they want. In the early 60's they had 'Mrs. Brown you've got a lovely daughter,' and 'fun, fun, fun till daddy takes the T-bird away.' That was the prevelent issue then. Old guys don't buy records....kids and young adults do. Older more mature people are more secure in their beliefs, and less impressionable (generalization). But a perfect way to look at it is bands like MM, Danzig, and FF connect to you...so there's got to be many people out there who feel the same way about rap.

And on a whole, the hip-hop (rap) genre has massive amounts of talented artists. This is absolutely no different then any other genre of music, where most of the good stuff slips through the cracks. Why? Because it's not as marketable! I hate to say it but the majority of people like being spoonfed. It's cheap, easy, and makes you fit in!!! To be honest, I dislike Ja Rule and Ludacris just as much as Disturbed or any of those guys. But to each his own.

Scott, I'm kind of surprised that you can single out rap as well, when you obviously listen to music that so many could find unpleasant. I personally don't have a taste for Death/Black Metal, but I understand and relate to the genre, and will definatley say some of the most talented musicians around are playing it. I do have a liking for some Cradle of Filth stuff, tho...and I do like Morbid Angel tunes too. I'm especially surprised that you wrote such an awesome post about real music being from the heart, not for money, and you didn't think that maybe there's hip-hop acts out there just like that. If you guys want to hear some great, soulfull, roots oriented stuff, check out:

The Roots
MosDef
Gang Starr
Jurassic 5
Eric B. and Rakim
Beastie Boys
Tribe Called Quest
UMC
Kool Keith aka Dr. Octogon
Black Eyed Peas

Let me finally go on the record and say f**k genres! I love music. Good music, that's from the heart, and that has some depth. The rest is...well :D

john

[Eddie624]

Hootie hehe. I have seen them so many times. I liked them better when they werent national.

[TroyD]

AIC, Slayer, Megadeath, Anthrax.....all bands that have been around for at least 10 years.

Eddie, I've seen Hootie an the Music Farm, old (East Bay ST)and new (Ann St) Cumberlands, Wild Wing, Miskins (old school) the Passenger Terminal, Windjammer, Wavefest, Elbow Room and the list goes on....... A good buddy of mine's sister dated Edwin McCain, real good dude.

Elvis was the ORIGINAL. A phenomenon. No single figure has influenced a generation or an industry more than Elvis. Arguably the greatest vocalist in rock history. Just my opinion.

Troy

[scottvamp]

johnnyamerika,

I'm not against Rap, but it seems that the genre hasn't gone very far. I grew up in Louisiana listening too 2 Live Crew, LL Cool J, Ice-T. I'm not just a metal head, I'm into lots of different music.

[shack]

I've said it before... the true test of great music is time. I don't care what genre it is...if it is still around years later then a case can be made that the artist or their music was great. And I am not just talking about the 60 year old guy listening to his Be Bop album that no one else has heard of. There is a reason that some of the old blues and jazz greats have gained different audiences over the years....not every generation ..but they keep coming back. You see the same thing with artists like Glen Miller, Frank Sinatra, Elvis, Tony Bennett, Patsy Cline, The Beatles, Hendrix etc... These artists are not only listened to by their peers but they periodically make a comeback with a whole new audience of younger people that hear them and recognize talent even though it is not the current hot stuff. Some of the stuff I thought was great years ago is crap and some are classics. There are some albums that you go back and listen to and you wonder why you ever wasted your money and there are others that you rediscover all over again. To me that is great music. Another thing, there is very little truly "new" music. The hip-hop, metal, pop, techno, angst rock (for lack of a better term) are all just variations of a theme that’s been done in other times. Popular does not necessarily mean something is good. When music can withstand the test of time, changing fashion, tastes, and whims then it is probably pretty good.

[johnnyamerika]

2 live crew, hee hee, those were the days! One of my design professors in college did some photo shoots and album covers for Luke Campbell! Skywalker!

Also, since you're into death metal, did you ever heard of Garden of Darkness or Azazel?

[vrede]

Clash of the Titans tour, eh. Holy crap! When was that anyway? '92? Yeah, I think I was in 10th grade when I went and that was '92. That was back when those bands could still pack the house. Oh sweet memories.

I love music. I spend the majority of my downtime cranking the soothing tunes of various death/black metal bands. I mean, I love me some Jewel, but it just doesn't mellow me out like Dark Funeral, ya dig?

I'm actually listening to a new band right now called Anaal Nathrakh "the Codex Necro". It's killer. Totally fast and brutal, yet it puts me in the best of moods. Nothing better in my opinion than a good blast beat. The faster the better I say.

Here's a few weird band names for ya:

Myrkskog (great band. Fast as hell too!)
Marduk (not as good as they used to be, but they still smoke live.)
Carpe Tenebrum (Former members of Dimmu Borgir FYI.)
Cryptopsy
Mork Gryning
Naglfar
Setherial

This is the type of stuff I love. When I was younger I'd sorta not own up to the type of music I listened to in fear of what people would think of me. "Oh look honey, he worships satan." I remember a long time ago being stopped by some elderly couple at a local amusement park because I was wearing a Deicide t-shirt. "Do you know what that means young man" they said. I didn't giva fug what it meant. I liked the music, I bought the shirt directly from the band so I felt I was doing my part in supporting them. Yadda, yadda, yadda.

Anyway, music of all kinds, I love it.

Should I get pissed at P. Diddy when he makes cover song after cover song while making millions of dollars of it when the very bands I love do the same thing from time to time? To each their own I say.

And yes, I can't wait until Episode 2.




~ s

[scottvamp]

Great to hear from some people that have gone outside the box and have had some death metal influence.

Also, since you're into death metal, did you ever heard of Garden of Darkness or Azazel?
No, but I will check them out. Thanks:)

[wodom1]

i don't listen to 2 Live Crew or any rap but I saw them during spring break my freshman year at LSU at Club La Vila in Panama City Beach, FL. man, were there some horny ladies out there! the music just made it that much more intense. too bad i was so drunk i could barely walk or else i would have hooked up with some hotties. every other word in their songs was F**k or p***y.

-josh

[ntculenuff]

there is a lot of really good music out there, unfortunetly the only thing we really get to hear is the crap that has a catchy cliche' hook and gets thrown on the radio and played so many times that you are forced to like it. just because it is on the radio and popular doesnt mean it is any good, some of the best artists out there dont get radio play, because they just dont have that top 40 appeal.
i listen to a lot of diff music about the only thing i dont listen to is country just dont get it (more crap thrown on the radio) read an article a few years back that said country music was the easiest industry to break into because you really dont need to be to talented to make it you can learn along the way you just need to twang your voice.
i listen to what peeps say is the best band as so on and it really depends on what you grew up on. i personly cant stand ac/dc, dont like led zepplin, not a big kiss fan, these are the bands i should like since that is what everyone in my school was listening to but i chose a diff route and explored mor underground stuff like ween, ministry, techno style music, hip hop. yet i was the weirdo becuase my music wasnt played on the radio so it couldnt be good.
any way if it makes you smile, takes you to your happy place, or releases stress or aggretion go with it.
sorry so long :)

[Micah Cohen]

Ah, I just got in and have been reading this thread and I have to say, this is a great great thread! There's tons of great info and sharing going on here! I wish I could get you ALL to write me expanded-mind reviews for the Polk newspaper -- because this proves to me at least that I'm missing the mark with my current reviews; stuff that old white hippies listen to. I wish there were a way to take more advantage of some of your knowledge of this stuff.

SABBATH still rules. But I'll get back to that in a bit... Gotta get some coffee.

MC

[Eddie624]

Micah have u watched that Ozzy show on MTV. Ozzy looks kinda bad he almost seems retarted at times. The show i watched he couldnt figure out how to operate is home theater setup with the satellite. He couldnt change channels. Anyway check it out if you havent seen it pretty much it is day to day life and his families. I never really got into sabbath too much. The one song from ozzy that i have always liked was Crazy Train. awesome song. My favorite band growing up was Van Halen just too bad they really went to crap when they got Sammy Hagar. I think if they had Dave still in the band they would still kick butt today.

[wangotango68]

eddie van halen needs to get off his ass and call dave. why do you think warner bros. droped them? warner wanted dave,but eddie (burr up his ass) van halen did not,so they droped them.
without david lee roth van halen is done.


scott :cool:

[Micah Cohen]

Ah, okay; two things first.

1. VAN HALEN doesn't need to do anything. He just needs to stop. Don't make any more music. Retire and don't even think about making any more music. Same goes for Dave. Just retire. Get out of any spotlight that may be near you. I am tired of these old guys making parodies of themselves and making me ashamed for liking them when they really meant something. Relax guys; enjoy your investments and don't make any more music. Thank you.

2. "The Osbournes" is the funniest effing show on TV now. I don't know... I am a HUGE Ozzy fan -- I have always loved Ozzy. He's the king of evil, and a very underrated songwriter and singer in his genre as well. (Part of the reason his SABBATH was so great was because he has a very pop songwriting sensability, and a song no matter what genre is crap if it is not well crafted; Ozzy could craft 'em.) So I can't decide whether or not MTV -- which is the worst possible thing ever -- is making fun of him, or just celebrating him. Anyway, I go with it, because he is one effing hilarious dude. He's totally effed up, completely messed up (he says, "35 years and 60 million decibels have done it") and totally screamingly hilarious! I love how he hates everyone and everything, and seeing him just waddling around in sweats, all fat and tattooed and wisecracking, is just wonderfully funny and great. Listen, if you did the stuff he's done, you'd be the same way. I wish I was him. I used to have a scan of a picture of me that made me look like him, and I was real proud of it. I love Ozzy. Ozzy ****ing Osbourne, man! He's great!

.... And maybe that's the thing that turns me off to death metal and the harder, more MORBID ANGEL stuff, which I'm surprised is turning up in this thread so much. It certainly isn't any satanic bent to it, because I think all that stuff's funny (cept Ozzy), but maybe it's because I can't get around the "lack of accepted musical direction." Which is not to say they are not musical or not good musicians at all. It's just that I like my music, or my rock, to be basic, bluesy, simple, relatively slow. The Ramones and Black Sabbath are key. (Of course, I love my share of pompous musicians, as well: Keith Emerson is a god.) Anything less than simple powerful straightforward is wimpy. Even when JPJones adds keyboards and strings to ZEPPELIN songs he veers dangerously into wimp-ville.

This need for simplicity extends into the lyrics as well. I don't like anything pompous or "fantastic." Dragons and devils and knights and crap like that are goofy. I've seen SLAYER & MAN-O-WAR (back in the day, heaven help me). They were silly. When Ozzy sings, simply, "My name is Lucifer, please take my hand..." Man that is simple and direct and backed by that horrifying evil riff and that's all I need to know he's not joking! No wimpy stuff there!


if it makes you smile, takes you to your happy place, or releases stress or aggretion go with it.

I agree. This is great thread. I'm just glad I like the good stuff! :D

MC

[wangotango68]

i do think mtv needs a translater for ozzy most of the time.
and if we had a dollar for everytime he said **** we could all retire
i look forward to seeing ozzy more then the real world
anymore. the last great ozzy tour i think weas the crazy babies
tour we he was out of control.


scott :cool:

[Micah Cohen]

Yeah, this season of "Real World" is real lame. It's tough even thinking of which of the little spoiled pretty pricks is most deserving of my thorough and abiding hatred.

The little chippy with the sexy lips, tho, the one who is turning out to be "the coolest" female on the show because she's not buying anything the square-headed jock is selling, is getting to me.

But I stick with it, cause you never know when you'll get some girl-girl action, or brief glimpse of youthful nudity. And I'm all for that.

I love how you can't understand anything Ozzy says! That is a SCREAM! I spend most of the show doubled over in laughter. "ROCK AND ROLL!" he screams, his old mouth full of gum! He's GREAT!

:cool:

[dylan]

"I'm not picking up any more fu@$% dog turds, I'm a rock star!!"

The Osbourne's is the most entertaining thing in a long time... the one next week where they're warring with the neighbors looks hilarious.

[Micah Cohen]

Ah, look: another reason I don't listen to anything called "system of a down":

http://download.consumptionjunction...dia/cj_8700.wmv

Sorry, metalheads. You're dopes.

:cool:

[Micah Cohen]

... Or I'm a dope for not having a working link.

Let me work on this one.

Damn.

"I'm a rock star!" LOL!

MC

[wangotango68]

whom the hell are all the extra people in there house? and all those dogs, get the **** rid of them,they **** all over the house
brand new house at that.


scott:cool:

[Micah Cohen]

Try this...

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58090

Who knows what I'm doing. Step away from the keyboard! I'm like Ozzy! I don't have to figure this out! I'm a rock star!

MC

[Micah Cohen]

But then, sometimes he's totally lucid and funny as hell. Like, when the dog therapist came over; her name was "Tamara." And when she's leaving, Ozzy -- who didn't even want to talk to her -- shouts out, "See ya Tamara! See ya Tamara!" He is so effing funny, I swear I almost lost my Cheerios on that one!

OZZY!

[wangotango68]

holy ****!!! that is the funiest think i have seen in a long time!
you know all of us have done that at some time or another.


scott:cool:

[Micah Cohen]

Right!

And "system of a down," whatever the hell that is, still sucks. Mostly because their group name is STUPID.

MC

[scottvamp]

I love the Osbourne family show. They take the Crazy Train song and make it into a super cheesy sitcom tune for the opening. I am just afraid they will make some new reality shows for other rock stars. What is strange is that being a huge fan of Ozzy(have all the lp's up to No More Tears's) is that I can understand everything he is saying. How weird is that? I almost WANT to be part of the family. I was trying to figure out who the one chick was. I'm guessing she is a nanny of sort's. They also mentioned another Daughter that isn't there.?? Anyway I laugh me a$$ off and will not miss an episode. Ozzy is the man!!! I do not care how shakky and stutery he gets, I totally respect the man. :cool:

[goingganzo]

if you take one boy band change their cloths and make them sing a different boy bands song you cant tell the differance and this britney christina pink thing i guess if you are hot and you cal allmost sing and you get someine to write you a song you can cash in i mean if you can have a tv show that makes a band that is sad

[ntculenuff]

i will have to say that i enjoy pink, she writes her own music.
i had to check out her missunazstood album because i like the comin up song, the album is really good. the lyrics and music are very good. my cheesy top 40 obsession is pink
http://www.pinkspage.com/images/photos/27134ARISTA6.jpg

[Nashvilletitans]

show ROCKS, always been an Ozzy fan.........always will. IMHO Ozzy has the greastest voice in metal/rock there has ever been.Hell,it just fits plain and simple!
Think about it, in the late 60s he had teen rebels chanting his name.......35 years later..........teens chanting his name and banging their heads...OZZY-OZZY. hahahahaha

And if ya can't find the humor in the show on MTV,you are taking life way to seriously. As confused as he seems sometimes while fumbling around with a remote or looking at a cell phone like its an alien when it rings,,,,,,,,,he still has some really good one liners. When a security guard outside the Leno show came up and wanted to meet him,and said Sabbath was the first concert he had ever went to, and that Grand Funk opened for them,Ozzy said where and when the show was without hesitation......."ahhh yeah.....the so&so stadium in 1971" think about it,good memory?
Heres something I thought was funny............

[Nashvilletitans]

MTV: What are your favorite CDs of all time?
Ozzy: The Beatles are my favorite thing. I don't think there will be another Beatles. Slowly but surely, it's a sign of getting older--my heroes are dying off now. George Harrison recently died, which was tragic. I actually met Paul McCartney for the first time last year, which was a big thrill for me. And I'm listening to Paul McCartney's new album right now.

MTV: What current music are you into?

Ozzy: We have no option but to listen to Tool morning, noon and f**kin' night, it's Tool this, Tool that! You know, it's really funny. The other night my son said to me, "I went to see Tool last night, Dad, and saw this great band who opened for them, a band called King Crimson." I said, "Oh yeah, I've heard of them." I was like, if you like King Crimson, you probably want to listen to Yes, then you might want to listen to a band called Gentle Giant. He says, "Really?" And he comes back to me the next day and he says, "I got a chance to listen to the Gentle Giant album. It's f**king great music. How did you know about them?" Oh, I've only been around for f**king 35 years.

I miss the lack of melody [in current music] as well. I mean, a lot of people think I'm crazy for liking Creed and I like them purely because they sing! I mean, the singer of Creed sings like the guy from Pearl Jam, very close kind of voice. But I like the fact that Creed sing. I don't care if they're a Bible band, Satan band…

Every time I go out of the house, shopping with Sharon, someone will come up to me and go, "I've got a new band, here's my CD." Kids make CDs in their houses, you know. So I don't listen to that much music. To be perfectly honest with you, I should listen to more, but there's nothing really that grabs me, you know? I like the older stuff [from] when I was younger like [Led] Zeppelin, the Beatles, McCartney, [John] Lennon albums. Early [David] Bowie albums like Ziggy Stardust.

[Micah Cohen]

I don't know what to do about this Pink chick.

Do I find her attractive? I don't know. Too thick, too much "white girl trying to be black" for me. But she's definitely dirty. I like that. Do I like her style of music? No, but it's catchy as hell in a poppy kind of way.

When I rented MOULIN ROUGE, I ended up watching the "Lady Marmalade" video about eighty times (Christina!), and then I watched the "Live" version of it, and Pink just couldn't sing live.

OZZY!

:D

[The Old Gaffer]

I played bass in a rock band from 1968 to 1972. grew up on soul music. when everybody else was listneing to the early beatles and stones I was into the rascals, wilson picket, sam and dave, joe tex, booker t etc.. We played beatles, stones, grand funk, hendrix, the who, credence. I saw Herbie Hancock after the release of Watermelon Man at the Guthrie Theatre in MPLS, the warmup act was Graham Central Station headed by Larry Graham of Sly and the family Stone. He had developed the slap style bass technicue that was perfected by Stanley Clarke which is now used in rap music. (I HATE RAP)

I recently saw a bass player by the name of Victor Wooten who plays with Bella Fleck and the Fleck tones. He did a rap set which legitimizes rap for me. the guy is a virtuoso.
he owns and plays the alembic bass that Stanley Clarke used on School Days. Not everything new is crap. Just hard to get used to.