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marker
06-15-2005, 02:40 AM
...I have them both now as I recently picked up a pair of RT2000i, and after having spent enough time with them, ...(dramatic pause)..., I actually like the RT2000i better.

For one thing, and most obvious, is the difference in power requirements. You really need a lot for the RTi12, and since the RT2000i is a powered tower with only a tweeter and one 6.5" midrange driver crossed over at 100 HZ, you don't really need much power for it. My Cambridge Audio Azur 340A integrated amp, 40 watts x 2 at 8 OHMs, will drive it loud enough to literally run you out of a large room.

Another thing is that I personally like the tri-lam tweeter better.

I know the general consensus opinion here seems to be that the more drivers the better, especially on midranges, but something else to keep in mind is that the top portion of the Rt2000i is in a sealed enclosure, thus probably making that part of it a little "tighter" than the RTi12.

I also briefly (VERY briefly) had some RTi150 when they were clearanced, but I had to return them back to CC because at the time, I really only had a Denon AVR-3803 to drive them with, and they made it shut down. It just couldn't handle them as they were too much for it. Plus, I didn't really like the tweeter in the RTi150 as much as the tri-lam anyway.

So, in short, out of the last 3 series of RTi large floorstanding 3- way speakers, I think the RT2000i was the best between it, the RTi12 and the RTi150.

Am I alone in this, or are there any others who also feel that way?

disneyjoe7
06-15-2005, 08:18 AM
Well I own the RTi150's love them, I also own the RT800i like them. For me it's the difference of my room, the bass drivers, and the tweeters. The Tri-lams for me are too bright, so the silk / polymer tweeter is just right. With the right power / good amp they Sing


BTW 40watts with the RTi12's :confused:

No wonder why you didn't like them.

Zero
06-15-2005, 11:32 AM
Marker,

Agreed, 100%. There was just something special about that rt series.

unc2701
06-15-2005, 11:38 AM
RT1000i's here... love 'em. I'm selling them to my brother, but only if I get visitation rights.

Willow
06-15-2005, 11:39 AM
Crazy !! ;)

Dennis Gardner
06-15-2005, 12:47 PM
In normal listening sessions, at 80-85 db I find many different setups that I prefer over the largest of towers. The RT2000I has more in common with a bookshelf and dual subs than conventional 3 way designs. It is essentially a biamped sub/sat combo.

The RTi12s with 300wpc monoblocks sunk by 40wpc RT2000I.
:) Twisted headline, eh.

marker
06-15-2005, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by disneyjoe7
BTW 40watts with the RTi12's :confused:

No wonder why you didn't like them.

Check my signature out disneyjoe, the Rti12 pair definitely has a lot more than 40 watts!

Actually, I usually run the RT2000i pair with more power than the CA 40 watt integrated, but my whole point was that due to the driver compliment, relatively efficient 90 DB sensitivity rating, and 100 HZ crossover point to the subs on the 2000's, that not too much power is required. The old quality over quantity chestnut applies here.

Edit-BTW, what do you drive your RTi150 set with if you don't mind my asking?

marker
06-15-2005, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by unc2701
RT1000i's here... love 'em. I'm selling them to my brother, but only if I get visitation rights.

I have a set of them too that's not being used right now. They were OK for what they were, but IMO the RT2000i is definitely a BIG upgrade over them.

If you had a smaller room though and just wanted a full range tower, the RT1000i would be PERFECT for that. Unfortuantely, I really don't have a room like that I could set mine up in except maybe a spare guest bedroom, but it would never get used that much, if any.

marker
06-15-2005, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by Dennis Gardner
The RT2000I has more in common with a bookshelf and dual subs than conventional 3 way designs. It is essentially a biamped sub/sat combo.

True, I never thought of it like that, but you are right in effect.

Early B.
06-15-2005, 02:32 PM
The only crazy part is being remotely concerned about what others think. Enjoy your speakers.

bigsexy1
06-15-2005, 04:42 PM
You're crazy! Just kidding Marker! I know what you mean about the power differences needed. If you only have a receiver, the the 2000s are a much better choice.

I'm with DJ7, I liked the tweeters in the 150s, 70s, etc. better than the trilams and new vifas.

As EB said, at the end of the day, the only opinion that matters is your own. You've got to go with what you like best.

disneyjoe7
06-15-2005, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by marker
BTW, what do you drive your RTi150 set with if you don't mind my asking?


Right now because of room in equipment shelves I'm running 1 Halo A23 (125w x 2). The 125w will kill my AVR Onkyo 7x110 you will never thing it has 125w if you think the receiver was 110w.

I own another Halo A23 so in the future I plan to do 400w each. :p


PS BigSexy you're number 1 in my mind. ;)