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Micah Cohen
07-06-2005, 10:11 PM
Headline: "Bob Geldof nominated for 2006 Nobel Peace Prize"

In the photo that accompanies the news story, he looks like a homeless guy. (I think this guy chased me out of Fells Point yesterday in a motorized wheelchair, shouting, "I jess wanna talk wit choo!")

If he wins this, he can write a book: "How To Parlay A One-Hit Footnote Of A Band Into The Nobel Prize."

Maybe he'll move to frickin Africa and we can stop thinking about him?

What an embarrassment for "rock and roll." Which is dead anyway. :mad:

MC

TroyD
07-06-2005, 10:28 PM
Can someone 'splain to me just what it is that Live Aid and the subsequent fleecings have accomplished?

Made some overpaid schmucks feel a little less guilty about being overpaid schmucks, maybe.

BDT

MacLeod
07-06-2005, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by TroyD
Can someone 'splain to me just what it is that Live Aid and the subsequent fleecings have accomplished?

Made some overpaid schmucks feel a little less guilty about being overpaid schmucks, maybe.

BDT

You nailed it.

A bunch of bazillionaires that got their money by being lucky and just basically sit around most of the time doing nothing but watching General Hospital and want to feel theyve amounted to something.

danger boy
07-06-2005, 10:34 PM
who else is being nominated?

Bob Geldof, that's an insult to past winners of the Nobel Peace Prize.

the dude only surfaces what every 15 yrs or so for this or that world rock concert to save _______ (fill in the blank cause).

It's cool that's he's doing what he is.. but Nobel Peace Prize nomination. Sheesh, hardly.

Danny Tse
07-07-2005, 01:31 AM
Originally posted by TroyD
Can someone 'splain to me just what it is that Live Aid and the subsequent fleecings have accomplished?

That was pretty much Huey Lewis' response when asked why he didn't perform at Live Aid despite participating on "We Are The World".

brettw22
07-07-2005, 01:49 AM
Originally posted by TroyD
Made some overpaid schmucks feel a little less guilty about being overpaid schmucks, maybe. Actually, they got some pretty pricey Gift Baskets for their contribution to these non-money raising concerts.....

Mjr7531
07-07-2005, 02:32 AM
Originally posted by Micah Cohen
Maybe he'll move to frickin Africa and we can stop thinking about him?

If he was American he could move to France and become an ex-patriot pinko communist. :rolleyes:

ohskigod
07-07-2005, 12:42 PM
what has live aid done?

well, it seems it made some corrupt african dictators richer, since they took a lions share of the dough, or should i say, Doh!!!

i'm sure those dictators would be thrilled for Geldoff to get the Nobel Peace prize. on a side note, what the hell is this world coming to.

ND13
07-07-2005, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by Mjr7531
If he was American he could move to France and become an ex-patriot pinko communist. :rolleyes:

Like Johnny " I make $25 million a movie" Depp?

dcarlson
07-07-2005, 01:03 PM
Geldof, peace prize. That'd be joke.

As for Live Aid... man, you guys are cynical.

Micah Cohen
07-07-2005, 01:04 PM
Like Johnny Depp?

Yep. So now all you sheeple make sure to run right out and see his newest amazing film! Suckers.

Anyway, I realized after I posted this thread that Yasir Arafat actually won a Nobel Prize some years ago. Which sort of nullifies any kind of meaning for this Prize, this "peace prize," doesn't it? So, why not give one to Geldof? It's obviously pretty meaningless. They could give ME one.

I deserve it.

MC

ND13
07-07-2005, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by Micah Cohen
Yep. So now all you sheeple make sure to run right out and see his newest amazing film! Suckers.

Anyway, I realized after I posted this thread that Yasir Arafat actually won a Nobel Prize some years ago. Which sort of nullifies any kind of meaning for this Prize, this "peace prize," doesn't it? So, why not give one to Geldof? It's obviously pretty meaningless. They could give ME one.

I deserve it.

MC

I haven't seen a Depp movie since Scissor hands, and don't plan on adding to his bank account(foreign I'm sure) anytime in the foreseeable future. Any red-blooded American "should" feel the same way. Hell, in our not-so distant past, he would have been brought up on treason charges for some of the things he's said.

Ron-P
07-07-2005, 01:28 PM
Yep. So now all you sheeple make sure to run right out and see his newest amazing film! Suckers.
This sucker sure will. Depp is one of the best actors we have right now and Charlie looks excellent, much better then that Wilder turd.

People amaze me, getting all wrapped up in actors/actresses personal issues and life styles. I sit back and enjoy their on screen preformance and that's it. They can do whatever the hell they want outside of that and I don't give a crap.

danger boy
07-07-2005, 02:12 PM
why such a hatred towards Johnny Depp?

What did he ever do to piss you all off?

I think he's a pretty decent actor in his own right. The best actor? of course not. but he's good and shows a range of characters he can play.

Micah Cohen
07-07-2005, 02:15 PM
RON! Stop it! I command you!

Gene Wilder's Willy Wonka is pure evil, delicious to watch, and super subversive.

No need to remake this. There MUST be something original out there filmmakers can do.

I will punish you by drinking Rolling Rock tonight! HA!

MC

Ron-P
07-07-2005, 02:30 PM
People need to accept the fact that Hollywood is running out of ideas and we aren't going to see much original stuff coming down the pike for some time I would guess. Remakes, sequels and comic book movies is what we are in for.

But I say, bring'em on. They entertain me just like the remake of War of the Worlds did, just like Herbie: Fully Loaded, just like Charile will do and F4 as well. Heck, Stealth, The Island, Serenity, King Kong...all I plan to buy on dvd. Corpse Bride looks great as well. Lots of fun, entertaining movies headed our way.

I will punish you by drinking Rolling Rock tonight! HA!
Sure isn't me your punishing bro, their your taste buds.

ND13
07-07-2005, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by danger boy
why such a hatred towards Johnny Depp?

What did he ever do to piss you all off?

I think he's a pretty decent actor in his own right. The best actor? of course not. but he's good and shows a range of characters he can play.

Haven't you heard all the anti-government, anti-war, anti-military sewage that's been spewing from his mouth over the last couple of years.

A good actor, yeah, but he should stick to acting and not politics. I believe that he makes 95% of his money in the U.S. and he might want to remember that.

Eff it, France can keep the little commy.

Maybe my hostility is due to me being a veteran. I just think that someone who makes an "extremely comfortable" living for entertaining people should stick to that and be thankful that he/she lives in a free country that allows him/her to do so. It's sort of like the "biting the hand that feeds you" analogy. He should be thankful for the military personnel that defends his way of life and his freedom. Has he done what Jane Fonda did..., no, but it's not that far away from it.

Porter
07-07-2005, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by Micah Cohen
Gene Wilder's Willy Wonka is pure evil, delicious to watch, and super subversive.

MC

I have to agree here. Gene Wilder was perfect in the role.

Johnny Depp looks autistic in the role, not subversive. Willy Wonka should be clever, not mentally damaged.

heiney9
07-07-2005, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by Ron-P
People need to accept the fact that Hollywood is running out of ideas and we aren't going to see much original stuff coming down the pike for some time I would guess. Remakes, sequels and comic book movies is what we are in for.

But I say, bring'em on. They entertain me just like the remake of War of the Worlds did, just like Herbie: Fully Loaded, just like Charile will do and F4 as well. Heck, Stealth, The Island, Serenity, King Kong...all I plan to buy on dvd. Corpse Bride looks great as well. Lots of fun, entertaining movies headed our way.


Sure isn't me your punishing bro, their your taste buds.


Kinda like the recycled shite we get for music these days :(

Johnny Depp is really a very good actor and may turn out to be his generations 'Nicholson'. He takes off the beaten-path rolls and adds a twist most actors can only dream of. As far as his politics....who cares. We never really get to know our celebs as you would get to know a neighbor or co-worker. I don't believe anything I read about any famous person. It's all about hype and creating a "cool" persona so the public will like whatever they are doing at that particuliar moment.

What the hell was this thread about...originally :eek:

H9

mmmm....I could go for an ice cold Rolling Rock right now!

heiney9
07-07-2005, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by Porter
I have to agree here. Gene Wilder was perfect in the role.

Johnny Depp looks autistic in the role, not subversive. Willy Wonka should be clever, not mentally damaged.

Always enjoy/enjoyed the Gene Wilder version. Only problem is it's nothing like the book, that's where the general critisicm comes from. A delightfully subversive flick, just not at all like the book. Remains to be seen if the new one parallels the book more or not.

H9

Ron-P
07-07-2005, 05:22 PM
....who cares
Exactly. I'm dumbfounded at how so many people get wrapped up in the lives of the popular just from news reports, magazines and the like. Not even knowing if it's the truth.

I sure hope TB followed the book. I have some doubts as the trailers make it look light hearted more so then dark, like the book. But, in a little over a week I'll find out. This is one I have to catch opening weekend.

heiney9
07-07-2005, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by ND13
Haven't you heard all the anti-government, anti-war, anti-military sewage that's been spewing from his mouth over the last couple of years.

A good actor, yeah, but he should stick to acting and not politics. I believe that he makes 95% of his money in the U.S. and he might want to remember that.

Eff it, France can keep the little commy.

Maybe my hostility is due to me being a veteran. I just think that someone who makes an "extremely comfortable" living for entertaining people should stick to that and be thankful that he/she lives in a free country that allows him/her to do so. It's sort of like the "biting the hand that feeds you" analogy. He should be thankful for the military personnel that defends his way of life and his freedom. Has he done what Jane Fonda did..., no, but it's not that far away from it.


Noel, I certainly don’t want to get into pissing match, because I do see you’re POV and agree somewhat. But, the freedom you talk about is exactly what allows JD to say the things that are on his mind and to pursue his right to happiness. Whether it be here or in a foreign county. At least he doesn’t complain about the government and continue to live here. He moved because he didn’t whole-heartedly agree with what it was doing. I don’t nec agree with everything he stands for but his arguments certainly ring somewhat true in one-way or another.

Having said that I still think the United States of America is the best place to live and pursue dreams. We have some issues, but overall the quality of life is second to none. Big thanks to our veterans and those currently serving in the military who have and continue to make this possible.

H9

MacLeod
07-07-2005, 10:02 PM
Johnny Depp is a tremendous actor and no matter how much I try not to, I love his performance in Pirates of the Carribean. But he's a pinko, communist traitor! Sitting over there in France, making all his money in America while talking trash about us like we're the scourge of the world. Eff him!

The Nobel Peace prize is a joke! Yassir Arafat won it!!!!!

Jimmy Carter won it for "standing against his own administration in a time of war". So they gave that putz the peace prize for fighting against Bush during the war on terror. Traveling over to Europe talking trash.

Say what you will about Clinton but he's acted with honor thruout this entire ordeal. He got a little political during the elections but overall I have gained a new found respect for him for being a patriot instead of a politician.

ND13
07-07-2005, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by heiney9
Noel, I certainly don’t want to get into pissing match, because I do see you’re POV and agree somewhat. But, the freedom you talk about is exactly what allows JD to say the things that are on his mind and to pursue his right to happiness. Whether it be here or in a foreign county. At least he doesn’t complain about the government and continue to live here. He moved because he didn’t whole-heartedly agree with what it was doing. I don’t nec agree with everything he stands for but his arguments certainly ring somewhat true in one-way or another.

Having said that I still think the United States of America is the best place to live and pursue dreams. We have some issues, but overall the quality of life is second to none. Big thanks to our veterans and those currently serving in the military who have and continue to make this possible.

H9

I would have much more respect for JD if he had said the things he said and "stayed" in the US. I mean, don't complain then run away. Stand by what you say like a man. I can respect that. Like I've said many times on these forums, I respect everybody's opinions, whether I agree with them or not. And I never asked anyone to stop going to his movies. All I said was that I wouldn't be. Now with all this and that being said, let's end this topic. It's not fun, and I'm here to have fun and talk audio. I usually don't get "too" involved with this type of stuff, but ........

Sorry for offending anyone,

Noel

heiney9
07-07-2005, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by ND13
I would have much more respect for JD if he had said the things he said and "stayed" in the US. I mean, don't complain then run away. Stand by what you say like a man. I can respect that. Like I've said many times on these forums, I respect everybody's opinions, whether I agree with them or not. And I never asked anyone to stop going to his movies. All I said was that I wouldn't be. Now with all this and that being said, let's end this topic. It's not fun, and I'm here to have fun and talk audio. I usually don't get "too" involved with this type of stuff, but ........

Sorry for offending anyone,

Noel

No offence taken, just a friendly discussion that I respectfully will end.

As for Geldof getting the Nobel Peace prize, he doesn't deserve it. Live Aid and his latest project are certainly noteworthy, but not for the Nobel Prize.

Although I'd rather see him get it than Bono, not much consolation there. Bono should be called Bozo. Oh I hope I didn't open up a can of worms. Bono can do whatever he wants....he's still a hypocrite and a twit....only in America baby!!;)

H9

uncyogi
07-08-2005, 01:13 AM
I can't believe I read all these posts and no one seems to apprreciate the magnitude, the grand historical significance, the stupendous coolness of Geldof's incredible contributuion to the planet ! Absolutely he deserves the Nobel and every other prize you could mention. Never mind that G8 bull, he got Floyd back together ! even if it was for just a minute.

ND13
07-08-2005, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by uncyogi
I can't believe I read all these posts and no one seems to apprreciate the magnitude, the grand historical significance, the stupendous coolness of Geldof's incredible contributuion to the planet ! Absolutely he deserves the Nobel and every other prize you could mention. Never mind that G8 bull, he got Floyd back together ! even if it was for just a minute.

Never thought of it in that light. Yeah, if he could get Pink Floyd back together then he does deserve "something" anyways:p :D .

ND13
07-08-2005, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by heiney9
No offence taken, just a friendly discussion that I respectfully will end.

As for Geldof getting the Nobel Peace prize, he doesn't deserve it. Live Aid and his latest project are certainly noteworthy, but not for the Nobel Prize.

Although I'd rather see him get it than Bono, not much consolation there. Bono should be called Bozo. Oh I hope I didn't open up a can of worms. Bono can do whatever he wants....he's still a hypocrite and a twit....only in America baby!!;)

H9

Don't get me started on Bono, that " FARGIN BASTAGE".:D
And that's a shame to, I loved everything U2 did up to Joshua Tree.

danger boy
07-08-2005, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by ND13
Don't get me started on Bono, that " FARGIN BASTAGE".:D
And that's a shame to, I loved everything U2 did up to Johua Tree.

Hear, hear! U2's early stuff was much better than their later music.

ND13
07-08-2005, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by danger boy
Hear, hear! U2's early stuff was much better than their later music.

Yeah, their later stuff isn't nearly as good as... let's say "WAR".
I think Bono has let his stardom go to his head, and now believes he's a politician and has some screwed up agenda to pass along to "his" public. These people need to remember where the large majority of there income comes from, the USA. They would be just another garage band that nobody ever heard of it weren't for the USA. They should try to clean up their own backyard, instead of worrying about us. I mean, come on, with all the problems Ireland has, he should preach about that.

And again, with that said, I'll not post again on the subject of foriegners who make almost all their money in the US and then want to criticize our government and our way of life.

heiney9
07-08-2005, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by ND13
Don't get me started on Bono, that " FARGIN BASTAGE".:D
And that's a shame to, I loved everything U2 did up to Johua Tree.

Everything up to and including Achtung Baby. They were a groundbreaking band when they were starting out. But, just like many other’s, they lost their way once they hit it big, and became a pop junkies. Their latest try’s to recapture that old U2 sound, but is pretty far off the mark, although it’s their best effort to date. The recording /production quality it horrid.

H9

heiney9
07-08-2005, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by ND13
Never thought of it in that light. Yeah, if he could get Pink Floyd back together then he does deserve "something" anyways:p :D .

Yeah…..and he did manage to get Led Zeppelin together again on stage. Even though, IMO that performance was a disaster for the surviving members. It was so poor that they didn’t allow it to be used on the Live Aid DVD. I listened to the audio recently, what a friggin’ mess, completely forgettable.

But hey he got them together again. Phil Collins and Tony Thompson, what a joke, they were so under rehearsed and then Robert Plant refusing at the very last minute to play Stairway made Jimmy a nervous wreck. The audio broadcast completely missed John Paul Jones bass/organ. The stupid MTV veejays’s continuing talk after the start of the first song. What a mess…historic but a disaster.

H9

ND13
07-08-2005, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by heiney9
Everything up to and including Achtung Baby. They were a groundbreaking band when they were starting out. But, just like many other’s, they lost their way once they hit it big, and became a pop junkies. Their latest try’s to recapture that old U2 sound, but is pretty far off the mark, although it’s their best effort to date. The recording /production quality it horrid.

H9

You're very correct on "Bomb", It should have been titled "How to Dismantle a Once Great Band". The SQ sucks. I thought I'd give 'em on more chance and put aside my personal beliefs, so I went out and purchased that POS and was very disappointed. Hell, I think I'll start a Karma for it right now, even.

dcarlson
07-08-2005, 03:50 PM
I think Bono has let his stardom go to his head Bono's always been pompous ass.

These people need to remember where the large majority of there income comes from, the USA. Who cares where the money comes from?

They would be just another garage band that nobody ever heard of it weren't for the USA. Waaaaaa!

They should try to clean up their own backyard, instead of worrying about us. I mean, come on, with all the problems Ireland has, he should preach about that. He deosn't only preach about the U.S., he preaches about everywhere.

And again, with that said, I'll not post again on the subject of foriegners who make almost all their money in the US and then want to criticize our government and our way of life. How many American companies and people get rich from money from abroad now?

ND13
07-08-2005, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by dcarlson
Bono's always been pompous ass.

Who cares where the money comes from?

Waaaaaa!

He deosn't only preach about the U.S., he preaches about everywhere.

How many American companies and people get rich from money from abroad now?

So I take it you don't want to be in the Karma;) :D ?

dcarlson
07-08-2005, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by ND13
So I take it you don't want to be in the Karma;) :D ? No, thanks. :D

I'm not big on U2's stuff the last decade.

ND13
07-08-2005, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by dcarlson
No, thanks. :D

I'm not big on U2's stuff the last decade.

Me either, but I had to give 'em one more chance.

AsSiMiLaTeD
07-08-2005, 04:28 PM
OK, someone clue me in or give me a link on the Bono business. I know he's said stupid stuff, would like to read what all he had to say...not coming up with much on Google...

dcarlson
07-08-2005, 04:52 PM
I don't have link but he's active in Aids relief for Africa, Debt relief, Amnesty International, Greenpeace. Probably a bunch of others.

AsSiMiLaTeD
07-08-2005, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by dcarlson
I don't have link but he's active in Aids relief for Africa, Debt relief, Amnesty International, Greenpeace. Probably a bunch of others.
well none of that sounds too bad...

I was thinking he's over there bashing America or something...

ND13
07-08-2005, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by Polkmaniac
well none of that sounds too bad...

I was thinking he's over there bashing America or something...

Back during one of there early 90's tours, while on stage during a show, he called the Whitehouse to try and give Bush some shit and when he couldn't get past the receptionist, he started talking smack. I'll try to find some of his other smack talk on the US.

To give him a little credit, he does do alot of charity work as pointed out above.

AsSiMiLaTeD
07-08-2005, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by ND13
Back during one of there early 90's tours, while on stage during a show, he called the Whitehouse to try and give Bush some shit and when he couldn't get past the receptionist, he started talking smack. I'll try to find some of his other smack talk on the US.
Cool, I'd appreciate anything you can dig up. I personally can't stand the guy, but have never really known why. I'd like to be able to turn my irrational dislike of him into something substantial and quantitative...

heiney9
07-08-2005, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by ND13
Never thought of it in that light. Yeah, if he could get Pink Floyd back together then he does deserve "something" anyways:p :D .

Yeah…..and he did manage to get Led Zeppelin together again on stage. Even though, IMO that performance was a disaster for the surviving members. It was so poor that they didn’t allow it to be used on the Live Aid DVD. I listened to the audio recently, what a friggin’ mess, completely forgettable.

But hey he got them together again. Phil Collins and Tony Thompson, what a joke, they were so under rehearsed and then Robert Plant refusing at the very last minute to play Stairway made Jimmy a nervous wreck. The audio broadcast completely missed John Paul Jones bass/organ. The stupid MTV veejays’s continuing talk after the start of the first song. What a mess…historic but a disaster.

H9

EDIT: Ah, shit the dam refresh button made a double post, sorry about that!!!:rolleyes:

ND13
07-08-2005, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by heiney9
Yeah…..and he did manage to get Led Zeppelin together again on stage. Even though, IMO that performance was a disaster for the surviving members. It was so poor that they didn’t allow it to be used on the Live Aid DVD. I listened to the audio recently, what a friggin’ mess, completely forgettable.

But hey he got them together again. Phil Collins and Tony Thompson, what a joke, they were so under rehearsed and then Robert Plant refusing at the very last minute to play Stairway made Jimmy a nervous wreck. The audio broadcast completely missed John Paul Jones bass/organ. The stupid MTV veejays’s continuing talk after the start of the first song. What a mess…historic but a disaster.

H9

EDIT: Ah, shit the dam refresh button made a double post, sorry about that!!!:rolleyes:

I thought I was losing it:p

bknauss
07-09-2005, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by danger boy
who else is being nominated?

Bob Geldof, that's an insult to past winners of the Nobel Peace Prize.

the dude only surfaces what every 15 yrs or so for this or that world rock concert to save _______ (fill in the blank cause).

It's cool that's he's doing what he is.. but Nobel Peace Prize nomination. Sheesh, hardly.

Bob needs 20 years to recharge from his drug binges (just look at the guy... you know he's doing it!) and his 10-minute-long-tirades-on-various-news-channels-without-taking-a-breath shenanigans. He and Russell Simmons came off as salesmen tools on a CNN interview I saw. They kept talking and talking, and didn't let the CNN person get a word in until "we're going to have to cut you off since we're out of time". I hate salesmen!!!!

ND13
07-09-2005, 11:27 AM
delete- I've pissed off enough people this week. so I'll just let it go.

ND13
07-09-2005, 01:20 PM
damn refresh key