Just Saw a BAAAAAD Accident

[bobman1235]

Man. I just went out for a ride with two friends of mine on our motorcycles. I live just north of Boston. We were coming back from a ride on teh South Shore, coming up through the new tunnel under Boston. Just as we were going into the tunnel, I was going about 40MPH, and traffic was slowing in front of me. I was in the right lane, the middle lane was STOPPED, left lane barely moving. All the sudden this yellow bike flies by me (I was going 40, so he had to be doing about 80) in the middle lane (the one with stopped traffic 50 ft ahead). He obviously saw too late, jammed on his brakes, his bike ENDOS (rear end comes up), FLIPS FORWARD nad throws the kid and bike, top first, into the car in front of him. It happened literally RIGHT NEXT TO ME. I can't belive I didn't get hit with shrapnel. I couldn't even stop because traffic was still coming behind me, and there's not really much space to pull over in that tunnel.

Scariest shit I ever saw.

[disneyjoe7]

Sorry you saw that in right in front of you.

But I don't feel bad about that, too many young stupid drivers out there and some get what they deserve.

Flame suit ready and standing by ;)

[PolkThug]

We need people like that......organ doners.

[BobMcG]

It's the reckless actions of squids that makes the rest of us pay so much for bike insurance.

I also hope the guy makes out ok.

[disneyjoe7]

I also hope the guy makes out ok.


I don't :)

And for the record I hold a Class B license with motorcycle as I own and rode a bike once.

[bobman1235]

Aw no lie, the dude was riding like a moron. His own damned fault.

Still not fun to see someone most likely die right next to you. If he survived I will be amazed. He went thru the back of a car at 60+MPH wiht a bike landing on top of him.

[disneyjoe7]

Hey Bob,

To tell you the truth got my Motorcycle License many years ago back in Rhode Island. The motorcycle classes need then talked and talked about the 12 second look down the road thing. If they still teach this then where was this Idiot?

[bobman1235]

They can teach all they want, doesn't mean people listen. I had an idiot crash a bike DURING my motorcycle test in NH. The guy was like 30 years old, had a brand new bike, and crashed it trying to come to a quick stop from 20MPH. If he had been lucky, he would passed the test, and then probably crashed a week later when the situation came up in real life.

You can go out and buy a GSXR1000 fresh out of one motorcycle class, which might as well be a race bike. It pretty much IS a race bike. 180MPH without blinkin an eye. You're always gonna get idiots crashin em.

The most reckless thing I do is ride with shorts on. It's way too easy to get yourself killed just riding normal and safely, let alone riding like an idiot.

[disneyjoe7]

Well in Rhode Island they provided the bike a small motorcycle maybe 175cc or so, again that was years ago maybe 1986 so things maybe different now.

[keith allen]

I ride a sportbike and I agree with all of you.I hate being put in the same catagory with these idiots,sometimes I think about getting a cruiser,so I wont be,its ashamed,sportbikes are lots of fun especially in the mountain roads...they can be ridden the speed limit and enjoyed just as much...I do it all the time.I wish the insurance companies would not insure a person on a sportbike under the age of 30,that would help...a little anyway.

[BobMcG]

1) I don't :)

2) And for the record I hold a Class B license with motorcycle as I own and rode a bike once.

1) What a nice guy. The death sentance for being careless? I've seen where sex offenders of the worst kind and drunk drivers with multiple convictions and accidents get off lighter.

2)From this statement of your world of experience in motorcycling somehow qualifies your above statement?

I've own bikes and have owned them and been riding on the streets sense I was a teenager and I'll turn 50 real soon. I was riding dirt long before that. I've seen quite a few bike accidents and have been down a few times on the pavement myself. It's no fun, always hurts and not always the pilot's fault. The guy was being irresponsible so I will not condone his actions and I will blame him and others like him for the high cost of bike insurance but I'm certainly not going to wish him to be any worse off than he probably already is. If he lives and can lead a normal life and continues to ride he will more than likely ride quite differently in the future. If he has met his fate, I see it as a terrible waste of a human life and the ultimate harsh lesson. One he wouldn't have the chance to learn by.

[disneyjoe7]

I can drive any straight body truck over 26000 pounds do you think I should drive like an IDIOT and take out you with 12 of your closest friends?

I was at one time going for a pilots license would that give my the right to fly so fast that the wings would break off, Killing all of us and maybe 25 of your closest friends?

[BobMcG]

I can drive any straight body truck over 26000 pounds do you think I should drive like an IDIOT and take out you with 12 of your closest friends?

I was at one time going for a pilots license would that give my the right to fly so fast that the wings would break off, Killing all of us and maybe 25 of your closest friends?


WHAT?
I'm not quite sure how you come up with the above scenarios and attempt to equate them to a rider on a relatively light weight machine. (Certainly compared to any of your above machines.) I've yet to see any bike win an argument with even a small compact car say nothing of causing the massive death and distruction you somehow envision. Lets keep things in perspective.

If Bob had witnessed a person driving a larger vehicle causing great damage and death to others I would have no sympathy for them what so ever.
One of the things you may have learned about bikes is that they're "usually" capable of killing only the rider with or without contact with other vehicles. And if you know the statistics, more often that not it's another vehicle that intrudes on the bike's space.

[disneyjoe7]

So Bob,

It's ok to ride like an ASS just because it's a lightweight, so he or she would must likely just F’up him or her self. So with this analogy he or she should ride / drive like he or she wants.

Does this analogy work for me also in a Honda Accord vs. a Hummer. I should be able to drive like an Idiot because I would do less damage then a Hummer could. What a F'ing crock.

[fireshoes]

"I hope he died." for riding like an ass does seem a bit extreme...

[ohskigod]

I think Bob was just trying to say, a man's stupidity aside, He has issues wishing death upon any motorcyclists (even reckless assclowns like the one Bobman saw). Arguments aside, it is an unfortunate truth. Fact is, ride a bike like an ass, and you will most likely get killed, whether DisneyJoe wishes for it or not.

I volunteer on my town ambulance, And i get on average one crotch rocket rider killed in a spectacular fassion per year (average). Usually broken neck/instant death. I've had them not so lucky either.

[keith allen]

[QUOTE=ohskigod]I think Bob was just trying to say, a man's stupidity aside, He has issues wishing death upon any motorcyclists (even reckless assclowns like the one Bobman saw). Arguments aside, it is an unfortunate truth. Fact is, ride a bike like an ass, and you will most likely get killed, whether DisneyJoe wishes for it or not.

I volunteer on my town ambulance, And i get on average one crotch rocket rider killed in a spectacular fassion per year (average). Usually broken neck/instant death. I've had them not so lucky either.[/

ouch :o

[swerve]

I hate auto accidents.

I saw one last august that pretty much changed my outlook on life.
Kid in a ford probe was picking up his sister's friends for school... on their way back into town a grain truck pulled out in front of them at a intersection.

Ripped the top off the probe, killed the young man... his sister ducked down but he couldn't cause the airbag pinned him.

I came up on it 2 minutes after it happend... other people waved me on... I'm glad because I couldn't take it. Once I found out the whole story I knew I really saw what I saw... the boys face//head was pretty much wasted and he survived for awhile...

I didn't know the boy but I heard he was a really good kid. I haven't gone back down that road since it happend.


auto accidents really suck... whether it's stupidity or pure accident.

[ohskigod]

Thats a big reason why I took the "life membership" option from my ambulance squad. In short, it means I dont have to ride every week anymore. Its like semi retirement. It really was starting to add up, and had some stuff to clear up in my life as well. nothing Dr Phil worthy, but I had to reduce some of the stressors in my life, and that was a big one. Not to say I didnt enjoy it, or that I wont return to it ever, who knows?

[MacLeod]

I have a Class A CDL and drive a tractor trailer for a living.....Ill run all y'all over! :D

450 horsepower, 13 gears and balls to the wall!

[disneyjoe7]

For the record guys I can ride a Bike I have a license for such. So I stand by what I said driving like an IDIOT you get what you deserve. So my thinking goes for anything I can drive or Fly, drive it like an ASS and you get hart my heart isn't bleeding for you.

So this Idiot caused his own problem costing us all higher insurance, and I should feel bad. Right maybe 25 years ago.

[Mike682]

I have a Class A CDL and drive a tractor trailer for a living.....Ill run all y'all over! :D

450 horsepower, 13 gears and balls to the wall!

How much torque in that tractor??? :D

[BobMcG]

Quote [It's ok to ride like an ASS ]


Are you for real??

Where or when have I condoned his actions ??? Show me!

I basically said I didn't wish to think of him getting killed by his actions. You on the other hand seem to be wishing he DOES die! "I" find that to be ineffencredible!! I'm also going to gather you don't ride nor do any members of your family. Otherwise it could just as easily be a nephew or cousin or son of yours just for examples.

You state the fact you have a cycle license like it's a badge that's supposed to clear you of being capable of harboring any anti-motorcycle sentiment because if you got that you've just got to be a member of the motorcycling fraternity. Right? I don't buy into it for a minute. It's strange you don't sound in the slightest like anyone the least bit bike conscious. In fact just the exact opposite. And believe me I've talked to and riden with plenty of cyclists in my lifetime. Got the license yes. Actually a motorcyclist? I can't see it.
Forget it, I've got you read like a wide open book.

[disneyjoe7]

I have a Class A CDL and drive a tractor trailer for a living.....Ill run all y'all over! :D

450 horsepower, 13 gears and balls to the wall!


So go ahead drive like an ASS if you wish (it's the new thing ;) ) drive to close / too fast in heavy traffic turn some Hummer into a Civic :D

[petrym]

I know this is a sensitive topic, so I'll offer this but once: You are responsible for yourself. The beauty of the USA is our freedom, and all of us make choices based on our own personal values and beliefs. We all have opinions and not everyone will agree with them, but sometimes people have to learn the hard way. This person learned the hard way.

An accident, which is a misnomer, is actually a collision. Someone had to do something stupid for a collision to occur, and unfortunately, sometimes it involves other vehicles or people. No matter how capable the vehicle, it cannot exceed the laws of physics. Some folks like to see how close their vehicle can get to the edge of performance – and many do for many an instance – but it’s that one time that they exceed that edge that makes the news. In bobman1235’s case, he became a witness.

I heard some advice recently that I’ve taken to heart, “Drive as if everyone on the road is an idiot.” It works, because some of them are.

[disneyjoe7]

[Quote]

You on the other hand seem to be wishing he DOES die!



Only God has that right, so if this is his last day then God has chosen that.

Sorry no I didn't wish him to die, I do wish him not to be able to be 100%.

Isn't this your wish with I hope this guy makes out ok?

[MacLeod]

So go ahead drive like an ASS if you wish (it's the new thing ;) ) drive to close / too fast in heavy traffic turn some Hummer into a Civic :D

Actually I cant. Its governed at 65 as are 90% of trucks on the road. :(

Good thing tho is it helps to keep you from getting tickets which are expensive as hell for a CDL!

[LiquidSound]

Darwinism is a big fan of donercycles. I stay away from em'..too many chances for luck to not be on your side. I skateboarded for a decade and lost enough skin.
Whether or not he deserved it, it still sucks for him and his family.

Some people just don't know when to quit. Totally non-related, but an example of when people should just lay off. My buddy of several years, was trying to be "hardcore yo" and kept telling this guy, with lots of people to witness, he wasn't going to do anything *fight wise* even though the guy was holding a large knife. Apparently he told him that too many times....

The guy rared back, using a good strong, waist level thrust..and literally stabbed my buddy all the fucking way through his body. Not a laceration, not a puncture..he pierced him. Lacerating his colon and all. I haven't spoken to him since it happened but I think crappin' in a bag might have taught him a lesson. I hope so anyway. Knowing him, since he lived through it, he's taking it as being "more hardcore yo". Some people..some people....

[disneyjoe7]

I know I hated those commercial vehicle police, I hated seeing them on the road I rather see a State Trooper.

[audiobliss]

Man. I sincerely hope disneyjoe7 is drunk as a skunk. I can't believe 1) someone could wish death on another person just because he drove recklessly on a bike. Sure, that certainly makes death likely - but wish for it? Come on. 2) You have totally twisted BobMcG's arguments. He has never condoned any kind of reckless driving; quite the opposite, he has specifically said multiple times that he doesn't. 3) Your arguments and analogies make absolutely no sense.

To change the situation a little bit, but using the same principle: 'Man disneyjoe7 wishes death on every reckless driver; I sure hope someone swipes the code off his ATM card and grabs all his money. What? They only got $700? Well, phooey.'

Does that make any sense? No, it doesn't. And nor does your wishing for a reckless driver's death.



Mac, what engine's in your rig? And how much torque does it make? Do you have two different rear-end ratios? Or do you just have 13 gears in the tranny? What is your rear-end ratio?

[bobman1235]

Actually I cant. Its governed at 65 as are 90% of trucks on the road.

Wow, I never knew that. Fascinating :)

[kberg]

Darwinism is a big fan of donercycles.

LMAO! Never heard the term "donercycle" before!

Not to change the subject, but about 18 years ago a friend of mine witnessed a cycle accident (actually the result of it) while driving on a dirt road at night. Apparently, this nut on his cycle flys by him at what my friend estimated was well over 90 mph (yes, on a dirt road - you know, the kind with BIG TREES on both sides?) - see where I'm going with this? So he sees the guy disappear in front of him, only to catch up with him about 2 miles up the road when he noticed his cycle in the ditch. No other cars around. My friend stopped, took out a flashlight and looked around for the guy and found him face down in the ditch as well - the problem was, he was severed from the waist down, his legs were some yardage down the road. Amazing what can happen when you're travelling that fast on a cycle, lose control and hit a tree - at least that is what my friend thought had happened.

[audiobliss]

Ouch. Man, that'd hafta hurt. That's why I'll probably have a motorcycle. Fast cars are dangerous enough! :D

[MacLeod]

Mac, what engine's in your rig? And how much torque does it make? Do you have two different rear-end ratios? Or do you just have 13 gears in the tranny? What is your rear-end ratio?


Cummins 450 hp. Im not sure of the torque but its probably around 1300-1500 like most are.

13 speed tranny in the cab. 5 low range and 8 high range. This is my personaly favorite tranny.

Dont know the rear end ratio. I just drive em. :D

Actually we're not running those anymore. They went with a smaller International model cause theyre cheap bastards!. Theyre lighter duty with only a 7 speed and 200 hp engine. :mad:

This is the one I used to drive.

[audiobliss]

You're not running what anymore? Rear ends?!?!

:confused:

[disneyjoe7]

You're not running what anymore? Rear ends?!?!

:confused:


I hope you're kidding he talking about the "Engine".

[audiobliss]

Why do you say he's talking about the engine? The last thing he mentions is the rear-end. Then before that it's the tranny. So I don't think it's the engine. We'll see.

[disneyjoe7]

Sorry I miss quoted also, he referring to the cab / truck maker. So the Engine & Trans changed from 450hp / 13 speed to 200hp / 7 speed, but it doesn't make your hotrod run so don't worry about it. And all his HP is made under 2300rpm or so.

[Ricardo]

Actually I cant. Its governed at 65 as are 90% of trucks on the road. :(

Good thing tho is it helps to keep you from getting tickets which are expensive as hell for a CDL!

90% of trucks? I guess then the remaining 10% is the one that always travel the same days/time I travel....

[audiobliss]

Yep. I'm sure he redlines at around 3000-3500 or so. All his torque is probably made from as early as 800-900 rpm to 1800rpm or so. Just kinda guessing here. But, diesels are truly amazing.

[disneyjoe7]

I doubt it revs even that high my thinking is around 2300 / 2400 maybe 2500 but it's power is much lower so you don't what to push it that hard before shifting.

[beardog03]

I`ve been riding for 30+ years, and though I have seen and been around asshole riders, some of which have almost caused me and the people I was riding with to almost crash...

wishing them to die is a childish , ignorant reply...

we just rolled up on them at the next stop, stomped a mudhole in their ass , and usually called for a truck to pick up the new bike they just gladly signed over...!!

some people are too stupid to ride
some people are almost to stupid to breathe

but wishing death to an ignorant driver is ....well...ignorant..





unless he`s wearing dirty pajama`s and a diaper on his head..!!,

or your the one dealing the final blow...for family , country,.....






or payment..!!









oh, and 13 speed roadrangers rule..!!
drove an end dump for 6 yrs..!!
may go back to it sooner than anticipated...grabbin gears for a livin...there are definatly worse ways to make a livin...

[madmax]

A few weeks ago I was riding on a 2 lane highway, doing about 60mph. Cars in both lanes each about a car length away from each other, side by side. So we have been in this formation for about 10 minutes and I hear this loud sound. Before I can even figure out what it is a crotch rocket screams by. He is traveling down the center of the highway easily twice as fast as I am. Possibly 140 mph. I watch as his handlebars come within inches of the mirrors on both sides of him.

If this moron had crashed the bike could have easily gone through a back or side window of any car ahead.

Although I would not want to see it happen in the back of my mind I felt that he deserved whatever he got. The people around him deserved some consideration on his part but got none.

At least he got by with it that time but I would assume he won't be riding for much longer. What a freakin creep.

madmax

[McLoki]

About 6 years ago (hard to believe it was that long ago now) on the day of my wifes baby shower for our first child (she was 7-8 months pregnent at the time) I had a motorcycle accident that was pretty major. I am sure it was my own fault. (target fixation on a deer - missed deer - road turned - I didn't)

I was moving pretty good. (faster than I should have been for conditions -clear night, farm road) I was airborn for 400 feet. A football field and a third endzone to endzone in a horizontal flight - think about that one. The bike chased me end over end for 150 feet.

I had on a full complement of safety equipment that ended up saving my life but I still suffered a some injuries and was in a wheelchair for a couple of months)

Dislocated left knee
Dislocated right shoulder
Broken right wrist
Bruised right lung
Bruised aorta

I was able to head home after a 4 day hospital stay. I am not quite back to 100% but close enough to not bitch about things. I certainly learned my lesson and am glad that DisneyJoe did not get his wish and I had died that night. I would not have wanted to miss out on raising my daughter let alone leave her to manage it by herself.

People drive stupidly in almost any vehicle. Motorcycles are just less forgiving than most. I hope we can all learn the lessons neccesary (reguardless of your choice of transportation) with the lowest cost in bodily harm possible.

Michael

Edit - here are a few after pics of my bike and box of parts it was reduced to...

[Skynut]

I have been riding for over 20 years now and have seen my share of accidents.
I was thrown over the hood of a car when the little girl with her learning permit did not look left while she was turning left. Not my fault but I was still stuck flying through the air and had to rebuild my totaled Sporster.
I believe most people push their vehicles at some point or another.
If you get a new car you want to see the top speed or how well it handles in a corner.
If it is a new bike you want to do the same. People like to push the limit and some times the limit pushes back.
I allways feel for the person who crashes wether it is on their bike or in a car.

What no one here has mentioned is what about the poor person that was crashed into. They had no say in this and they still have to get out of their vehicle to deal with a battered rider possibly dying on their trunk or in their back seat.

That sucks and is the only reason I would be mad at this idiot for not paying attention when he should have. If he wants to push the envelope of his machine that is his right to do so. If he gets hurt then that is the price you pay when you play, also his right. When you hurt someone else who had no say in the situation, that's wrong.

[MacLeod]

I was talking about my company no longer runs the big tractors, we're now running a lighter duty tractor.

HTRookie - Everybody says that but ALL company trucks are goverened at 65 or less. Swift is the slowest, goverened at 55-60. Owner operators dont govern theirs so these are the guys that are running you off the road.

Next time your out on the freeway, take note of all the trucks in the slow lane chugging along at 65 MPH and the ones hauling ass. The slow ones will outnumber the fast ones by a big margin. Most people think all truckers fly but its only because they dont notice the 5000 that they are passing like theyre sitting still. They only notice the one that tries to run them off the road. ;)

[Ricardo]

The slow ones will outnumber the fast ones by a big margin. Most people think all truckers fly but its only because they dont notice the 5000 that they are passing like theyre sitting still. They only notice the one that tries to run them off the road. ;)

Yeah, you are probably right Mac...we only notice what bothers or is wrong.... :) :)

[disneyjoe7]

Only God has that right, so if this is his last day then God has chosen that.

Sorry no I didn't wish him to die, I do wish him not to be able to be 100%.

Isn't this your wish with I hope this guy makes out ok?



Ok guy's I have to bring you all back to earth read then re-read above.



There's a time and place to play around, but this guy from what was stated it wasn't the time or place.