Slightly Disappointed

[audiobliss]

I was just drooling over some of Polk's speakers that I can't afford when I ran across the page for their MMC6500 component set. Right under the picture and titling the description is the sentence "If it's too loud, you're too old."

Now, on the one hand I can look at that sentence and think, "Yeah, that's kinda cool." I mean, I can see where they're coming from and the market they're trying to reach. However, I think it way too strongly supports today's attitude that old folks are just in the way and using up our air. It seems today that nobody has any kind of respect for authority whether it be the government, reiligious institutions, or other people in positions of authority.

As younger folks trying to make it through the world alive (and hopefully happily), the elderly can offer so much valuable advice and wisdom - the stuff that's only gained with time. They should be honored for making it through most, and arguably the roughest part, of life. They should be granted the priveleges, shown the respect; we should be the ones to step aside and let them go through. We should be the ones trying to accomodate them, not the other way around.

Today's attitude says they just take up space and should get out of our way; that is, if they persist in sticking around. To me, that statement "If it's too loud, you're too old" is just dripping with that same attitude.

To be honest, I'm disappointed in Polk for taking a part in that.


audiobliss

[MacLeod]

Maybe it should be changed to "If youre offended by this statement, then youre too old." :D

[fireshoes]

I think you're thinking too much. :)

[MacLeod]

Oh and just for the record for you young whipersnappers out there, that was Gene Simmons of Kiss that said that. So its automatically cool and worthy of Polk using it.

[audiobliss]

Don't have a clue who that is. But, I don't really care, either; doesn't change what I think of it.

EDIT - Oooh, 2900! :D

[MacLeod]

Don't have a clue who that is. But, I don't really care, either; doesn't change what I think of it.



Oh my Gawd! I weep for this nation.

How the hell can you NOT know who Gene Simmons is?!?!

Here. (http://www.kissonline.com/)

[exalted512]

you dont know who gene simmons is? holy shit...
-Cody

[fireshoes]

Oh noes!

[Mazeroth]

He's only the bassist/singer from one of the most overrated bands ever! :eek:

[fireshoes]

Maz, I think you are confused. He is with KISS! :D

[steveinaz]

He's only the bassist/singer from one of the most overrated bands ever! :eek:

Ed Zachary.

[bikezappa]

The price of wisdom is youth. Jack London

[bobman1235]

I WISH I didn't know who Gene Simmons was.

Ugh, KISS.

[audiobliss]

Oh my Gawd! I weep for this nation.

How the hell can you NOT know who Gene Simmons is?!?!

Here. (http://www.kissonline.com/)

And not to point any fingers, but here I am complaining about today's society's general lack of respect (a huge problem), and you're weeping because I don't know who this Gege Simmons is.

KISS? Hmm...the only thing I know about that is...the Keep It Simple Stupid series of books.

[audiobliss]

The price of wisdom is youth. Jack London

Nice quote. I'll hafta remember that.

[bikezappa]

Read London's short stores and books.

A Piece of Steak

The Sea Wolf

White Fang

[audiobliss]

I've read White Fang and The Call of the Wild; interesting work.

[Polkersince85]

Fifty years worth of knowledge and experience takes a long time to acquire.

[audiobliss]

Hmm..something tells me it'd take about...umm....50 years? :p

[Vr3MxStyler2k3]

Having heard Kiss's songs...

Not only do I not care to know who is a part of that band... I also don't care to listen to them (ever)...

Possibly one of the worst bands I've ever heard.

As for what AB is talking about above... get over it. Really...

[bikezappa]

A Peice of Steak, by London has the Wisdom quote. It's a 10 page short story. Hard to find. I think it's one of the top 10 best stort stories ever written. It's formate is boxing.

[audiobliss]

As for what AB is talking about above... get over it. Really...

I'll get over it as soon as it's better; and it'll never get better if we all just 'get over it'.

I'm also quite appalled that no one else thinks this is a problem with today's society.

*sigh*

[bikezappa]

As for what AB is talking about above... get over it. Really...

LIFE

Don't try to explain it .... Live it.

[Vr3MxStyler2k3]

The problem with your mini rant is your preaching to the choir. No other group of people you will talk to even comprehend why you are mad probally.

This group of people has sat by and watched Hi-Fi sound just completely drain for about all its worth... some are more willing to admit it than others. But what your complaining about is just about whats wrong. There is nothing you can do when 95% of the market has that mind set, loud is better, small speakers are better, small subs with 40hz drop offs are better... receivers are better... cheaper is better... HTIB is better...

Its all one in the same.

[AsSiMiLaTeD]

AB, I don't think anyone is saying it isn't a problem - we just think your taking the Polk statement a little overboard...

You're getting too caught up in the text and missing the spirit of the stament...

[audiobliss]

I'm not concerned about this in relation to hi-fi audio. From my stand-point, it's doing just fine.

I'm concerned with society in general.

[shack]

I could give a rat's ass whether he knows who Gene Simmons is or not...or what Kiss is for that matter....

What worries me is that his generation is SOOOOOOO PC that the ad bothers him! There used to be a time that you could poke fun without worrying that it somehow offends someone. Hell.....EVERYTHING offends SOMEONE! Hey, I AM old and it doesn't bother me.

To borrow a line from a well known movie (Network) we need to stand up and yell "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take this PC bullshit anymore!"

[MacLeod]

And not to point any fingers, but here I am complaining about today's society's general lack of respect (a huge problem), and you're weeping because I don't know who this Gege Simmons is.

KISS? Hmm...the only thing I know about that is...the Keep It Simple Stupid series of books.


Yeah, Im weeping because you dont know who Gene Simmons is. Also because its a freaking JOKE!!!

Jesus dude, wake up on the "way to serious" side of the bed today?

Shack +1

[audiobliss]

It's fine to poke fun of things and such. I don't have a problem with that. However, in this case it's not just some funny statement; it's true. That's today's society's attitude, and it's not right.

[audiobliss]

wake up on the "way to serious" side of the bed today?

Maybe so. Perhaps I should just go to bed.

[MacLeod]

Dude, and I dont mean this condescending cause youre my bro, but wait til you get out on your own and get a job. Once you start to experience real life, little ad slogans wont piss you off nearly as much because youll be worried about other societal problems, like paying your rent!

[audiobliss]

But...paying my rent isn't a 'societal problem'. That's something I personally have to deal with.

Anyhoo, I think I'll just drop this. And drool over some pics of that awesome Memphis amp!! :D:D:D:D

[Vr3MxStyler2k3]

I could give a rat's ass whether he knows who Gene Simmons is or not...or what Kiss is for that matter....

What worries me is that his generation is SOOOOOOO PC that the ad bothers him! There used to be a time that you could poke fun without worrying that it somehow offends someone. Hell.....EVERYTHING offends SOMEONE! Hey, I AM old and it doesn't bother me.

To borrow a line from a well known movie (Network) we need to stand up and yell "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take this PC bullshit anymore!"

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I am getting so tired of people complaining so much. Oh pity me like so... blah blah blah. People need to get over it... Are people that scared of life being as bad as it really is? So annoying...

[MacLeod]

Trust me my man, once a month, when you have to dig out $630 from your wallet to give to somebody else lest ye be kicked out, there doesnt seem to be any bigger problems in society! :p

[audiobliss]

It's not that I can't handle life being as bad as it is. It's that it shouldn't be that bad. And as a Christian, it's my responsibility to somehow make an impact.

I'm not whining. I'm lamenting over the state of things.


Oh well; like I said, I'm dropping this....

[fireshoes]

"We're NOT gonna protest! We're NOT gonna protest! We're NOT gonna protest!"

[audiobliss]

Trust me my man, once a month, when you have to dig out $630 from your wallet to give to somebody else lest ye be kicked out, there doesnt seem to be any bigger problems in society! :p

Hehe...I see your point....

[danger boy]

i know who Gene Simmons is. he's got a big tongue :p

[Vr3MxStyler2k3]

Ok...

Lets say someone calls you a name... this name dosnt bother you and dosnt think much of it.

However some stranger you've never met starts arguing with the person that called you whatever it was. That stranger has the potential to start something between you and the guy you didnt have a problem with and just can create a situation that never existed.

Old people were young once, and while they deserve all kinds of wicked respect - like everything else, if they (or anyone else) is laughing at what your arguing about... the point is almost pointless and rarely comes out to any good. Thats where you just start to bowlderize everything in society to the point of where you cant live. It just sucks.

[audiobliss]

Hmm. As far as I can see, that analogy has practically no (relevant) similarities.

[danger boy]

audiobliss,
i see and understand your point.. we often times don't show much or very little respect for our elders. In other cultures/societies.. the more "mature" people were looked up to and highly respected members of their communities.

Today unfortunatley, we put our more mature members of society out to pasture if you willl and we try and ignore them as best we can. It's sad sometimes.. older folks have the most expendible income of all. they usually have no mortgage payment, no car payment, no brats to put thru school.. etc. But yet the only thing that advertisers try to sell to older folks is Metmucil and those types of products.

I'm old(er) that a lot of the people here, (41) to be exact. I know that the SR6500 isn't aimed towards my generation... everyknow knows us baby boomers HATE music of all kinds. We only lived thru the best age of rock and roll. But yet we don't care about good high quality music. :confused:

I'm not offended by Polks marketing slogan for this product. It's not aimed towards my generation.. so i probably won't buy it. But that's not because i'm offended by the slogan. I'm flat out broke. :p

[cfrizz]

I've read White Fang and The Call of the Wild; interesting work.

These are two of my favorite books ever!

[danger boy]

oops! how did these get in here? :eek: :D

[Vr3MxStyler2k3]

It dosnt really have any relevance to what you stated. True...

But it has alot to do with todays society.. ;)

[F1nut]

I once had the privilege of telling GS and the other 3 freaks that they suck, face to face. God, it felt good! :D

[danger boy]

It dosnt really have any relevance to what you stated. True...

But it has alot to do with todays society.. ;)

Sid, please enlighten us with your many years of great wisdom as written in the book of Sid. :rolleyes:


I guess at your age you've experienced life much more than all of the rest of us huh? cool.

[fireshoes]

Sid, please enlighten us with your many years of great wisdom as written in the book of Sid. :rolleyes:


I guess at your age you've experienced life much more than all of the rest of us huh? cool.

DB, they don't use years anymore, it's postcount! :D

[Vr3MxStyler2k3]

If you can show me how my example is "wrong" - please do...

I have experienced, and seen how one person can persuade another into believing something entirely different than what they started out believing in a certain situation - thus making it ALOT worst than it should have been. Usually it ends up in a bad spot.

There also moments where you can persuade, alter a whole group of people - thus changing an entire situation. Its quite amazing how "sheep" work.

The way it works in the world dosnt seem to be much different. A few people start complaining, they get their way and change everything. Its the whole basis of Political Correctness - pleasing everyone about everything.

[danger boy]

If you can show me how my example is "wrong" - please do...

I have experienced, and seen how one person can persuade another into believing something entirely different than what they started out believing in a certain situation - thus making it ALOT worst than it should have been. Usually it ends up in a bad spot.

There also moments where you can persuade, alter a whole group of people - thus changing an entire situation. Its quite amazing how "sheep" work.

The way it works in the world dosnt seem to be much different. A few people start complaining, they get their way and change everything. Its the whole basis of Political Correctness - pleasing everyone about everything.


When you can snatch the pebble from my hand young grasshopper, it is time for you to leave. GET OUT! OMG, i'm signing off. i can't stand this anymore. :eek:

[organ]

:eek: Whoa this is some crazy sh*t :eek:

[Zero]

Thought you stopped smoking Maurice... Don't make me call yo' parents now..

[organ]

LOL:D Just noticed the smilie I used looks like a dude caughing after taking a big hit.

[F1nut]

A few people start complaining, they get their way and change everything. Its the whole basis of Political Correctness - pleasing everyone about everything.

That, my young friend, is exactly how it works. Damn shame too...... in fact, all whiners should be deported to some third world country. That should shut them up.

[exalted512]

i have 133 years of wisdom...in dog years
-Cody

[Thom]

"If it's too loud, you're too old" obviously came out of our marketing department. Al and Paul definitely qualify as old. So Haha.

Momo's are targeted at the younger guys (with the quote above), SR is more likely to be bought by you old guys.


Wah Wah. You guys suck.

[ND13]

LOL:D Just noticed the smilie I used looks like a dude caughing after taking a big hit.

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :D :D :D :D

[kab]

"If it's too loud, you're too old" obviously came out of our marketing department. Al and Paul definitely qualify as old. So Haha.

Momo's are targeted at the younger guys (with the quote above), SR is more likely to be bought by you old guys.


Wah Wah. You guys suck.


With age comes wisdom! Both Paul and I are wise enough to know that you don't tell our customers that they "suck."

Al

[sucks2beme]

Funny. My kids (23 and 16) tell ME to turn down the volume!

[PolkThug]

:eek:

[jdhdiggs]

This thread is too hilarious.... If you are offended, go somewhere else. I gotta agree with Sid. If you don't like it, ignore it. Unless it is hate speech, you shouldn't complain-go somewhere else...

[wodom1]

Trust me my man, once a month, when you have to dig out $630 from your wallet to give to somebody else lest ye be kicked out, there doesnt seem to be any bigger problems in society! :p

That's it? You're lucky!

[BlueMDPicker]

I once had the privilege of telling GS and the other 3 freaks that they suck, face to face. God, it felt good! :D
LOL! Gene Simmons 15 minutes of fame for me was the movie role in which he was left with a grenade in his mouth, pin pulled, by Rutger Hauer. Sorry, I can't remember the movie title -- I'm too old. ;)

[landry_p2000]

:eek:

That doesn't have anything to do with anything, but it was funny as hell.(ROFLMAO) Leave it up to P-Thuggy to bring in a funny. :D :D :D

[landry_p2000]

Man, I think I am having a stroke from laughing so hard.

[sda2mike]

Oh and just for the record for you young whipersnappers out there, that was Gene Simmons of Kiss that said that. So its automatically cool and worthy of Polk using it.

Hmmmm :rolleyes: I thought it was Ted Nugent! Maybe, it was Al Gore! :eek:

[faster100]

Im my worst cartman voice from south park, "OLD people piss me off! " :D

[exalted512]

"If it's too loud, you're too old" obviously came out of our marketing department. Al and Paul definitely qualify as old. So Haha.

Momo's are targeted at the younger guys (with the quote above), SR is more likely to be bought by you old guys.


Wah Wah. You guys suck.
Thats funny, I dont care who you are
-Cody

[Thom]

I forgot the smiley face for the obvious joke...

[rnp614]

I'll get over it as soon as it's better; and it'll never get better if we all just 'get over it'.

I'm also quite appalled that no one else thinks this is a problem with today's society.

*sigh*

I'll agree. Being first generation, its weird to see how much closer I am to my parents, grandparents, and the elderly in general than other people my age.

Thats why there are so many damned old folks homes here. I hardly remember seeing any of those things when I travelled abroad be it Europe or Asia.

[Zero]

Alright you little teenage runts, sit down ‘indian style’ and listen up.

Your hearts are in the right place, but the thought process is trailing behind a bit. I am going to spend far more time than I should just to set this particular record straight.

The phrase; “If its too loud, you’re too old” was coined around the late 70’s and became very popular between the mid to late 80’s (You will find this quoted in many movies of that era). This is not your generation kiddos, this is when you all were still in diapers and learning your ABC’s.

The phrase is an element of good spirit meant to celebrate life and music with a hint of stupidity by blasting your ear-drums while jamming to your favorite tunes. This is of course, a habit that mostly youth participate in - - but its not limited to those that are older.

In fact – it has nothing to do with being old! Let me translate what the phrase really means; “If its too loud, you’re too soft / weak / prude / lame”.

If this still offends you, then do us all a favor and remove your testicles as you clearly have no use for em’. That offend you? I hope so. Look kiddo’s, there is a lot of nasty stuff to get your collective panties in a twist over – don’t waste your time or energy worrying about something that merits no concern. Pick up a *real* cause to focus your youthful energy on.

[PolkThug]

*claps*

[jdhdiggs]

Looks like you are turning that corner that you were talking about Zero...

[MacLeod]

If this still offends you, then do us all a favor and remove your testicles as you clearly have no use for em’. That offend you? I hope so. Look kiddo’s, there is a lot of nasty stuff to get your collective panties in a twist over – don’t waste your time or energy worrying about something that merits no concern. Pick up a *real* cause to focus your youthful energy on.

LMAO!!! Thats priceless!

Dont be too hard on em tho. When youre that age you dont really have anything to worry about. Youre not burdened with the responsibility of putting food on the table or keeping a roof over your head but the human spirit requires a mountain to climb in order to feel worthwhile. Thats why its usually only these college hippies or Hollywood stars that take up these idiotic causes, they have no real responsibilites in their lives. Once they get out in the real world and start supporting themselves then that becomes their priority and bettering themselves and providing for themselves is the motive that drives them and they soon forget about the rain forest or the G8 summit.

[cfrizz]

*claps*

What he said! Bravo!!! :)

[exalted512]

hey, im in college and i pay for all my living expenses and my college. Only thing the parents pick up is insurance for the truck and the truck payments. Every 2 months or so they give me $100, but a lot of college kids dont have it that great.
-Cody

[MacLeod]

I thought you were on scholarship.

[sntnsupermen131]

i had enough scholarships to get me through my first and half way through my 2nd semester. I got a $1000 grant for both semesters this year. What i cant pay i will have to take out on a loan. but that shouldnt happen until next school year.
-Cody

[audiobliss]

Wow. Why'd you pull up that ol' s/n? Been a while since I've seen it.

[MacLeod]

Everytime I see it I think of the old Dio song "Sunset Superman". I think I was on here 6 months before I realized that wasnt what it was.

[exalted512]

i was at school and decided to log into that s/n for the time being...when i was in high school(sinton--sntn) we were called the pirates...way back in the day we were called the supermen, hence the name. I changed it because it was old and im not in hs anymore.
-Cody

[audiobliss]

I'm impressed that you actually remembered the password for it, lol.

[exalted512]

my passwords change about once every 3 years...lol
but i have quite a few now since everyone requires a damn number to be in it
-Cody

[audiobliss]

I just recently re-vamped my password - they're now all numbers.

[MacLeod]

I do the dumb thing. I use the same one for everything. I used to have different screennames and passwords for everything until I couldnt remember which were which and couldnt get into my stuff. So I simplified it.

[exalted512]

i would love to have the same password for everything. all my s/n's are now this one. But due to all types of weird restrictions ive changed my passwords. Hell, last year my school password had to have at least one letter and one number and exactly 8 characters...wtf kind of crap is that? In high school i had to have 1 #, 1 letter, and 1 capital letter. I like to keep things simple, all this crap pisses me off.
-Cody