View Full Version : Whyare there NO discounts allowed on Kremlin Spray Guns
F1nut
10-29-2005, 12:42 PM
I'd like to buy a TOTL Kremlin HVLP but I do not want to pay the full retail price.
Why does Kremlin not allow their dealers to bargin with me?
I undertand minimum advertised pricing. I understand grey market.
What I don't understand is if the delaer buys the gun from Kremlin for $1100 dollars and the dealer feels he can sell them to me for $1450 why Kremlin will not allow him to. (I'm using him becuase its a sauge fest at finish suppliers)
IF has told me they'd be able to deal a little on Novemeber 12th because Kremlin will allow them to have a sale that day.
My question is: Why can't I get the sale price now? I have cash in my hot hand and about 20 other brands of spray guns that will discount.
Help me understand why an authorized dealer can't sell non b-stock merchandise at 7-12% lower than MRP.
:p :D :eek: ;) :cool: :) :eek: :p :D
BlueMDPicker
10-29-2005, 01:02 PM
Because Kremlin is owned by Exxon and they're bending you over again - you hemorrhoid helmet! :p
Jesse just moved to the top of my "hero of the week" contest. :D
ohskigod
10-29-2005, 02:57 PM
ROTFLMAO.......nice!
scottnbnj
10-29-2005, 03:33 PM
humbly, just from reading the thread, it sounds like it's not really the price or how they perform or feel or their warranty stacks up to the competition, but that you aren't allowed to have your negotiation.
why don't you just pretend the m,uh,rp is $1000 higher. then you can pretend to have a masterful negotiation and amaze, even yourself, over how you brought Kremlin and the dealer to their knees.
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tomhayes
10-29-2005, 05:27 PM
(Keep it up. You are really showing the kind of person you are.)
This is considered funny here?
First off, it's a different market. Why are you comparing the consumer home elctronics market to industrial paint supplies? Diapers, gasoline, soda, paint guns and consumer home electronics are all different markets.
And no fair saying "This is a thread based solely on my experience trying to get a discount on paint supplies and is completely different than the other thread where I called you a child."
Be honest. I honestly depise you. Honest.
Secondly, you usually get bids when ordering industrial equipment and you don't buy from a retail store. You will get different pricing depending on your credit rating, your relationship with the vendor, the amount ordered, the time of year and many other variables-- usless you are buying a small nozzle that will fit up your nose for huffing, and then they really get hit on markup. I suggest buying huffing equipment over the phone so the dealer doesn't see the gold paint and glitter around your nose and mouth areas --it really hurts your bargaining position.
On a side nore; Did you ever see the movie Ruthless People with Danny Devito, Bette Middler and judge Rhienhold? Judge R. sold stereo equioment and he and his wife (Helen Slate) decide to kidnap Dette Middler to get big money. Judge R., a stereo salesman, has second thoughts and judges himself by saying "I'm no criminal. i can't even sell stereo equipment at retail prices."
Tom,
You're gonna have to lighten up a little man.
Oh nevermind, it's been really dull around here the last few weeks, so another thread of you -vs- F1 will give us something to read and poke fun at.
Just go with a SATAjet. Best gun I've ever used.
F1nut
10-29-2005, 06:59 PM
Hehe.........tommy boy, to play with the big dogs you're going to have to learn how to spell. You wrote, "I honestly depise you." It's DESPISE. Then you wrote, "On a side nore;" What is that, an affliction you suffer from?
As for the rest of your thoughts on the matter, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
You'd better get back on the porch now.
ohskigod
10-29-2005, 07:01 PM
Tom, holy **** dude, you HAVE to lighten up ....rotflmao!!!!
ohskigod
10-29-2005, 07:17 PM
[QUOTE=tomhayes
Secondly, you usually get bids when ordering industrial equipment and you don't buy from a retail store. You will get different pricing depending on your credit rating, your relationship with the vendor, the amount ordered, the time of year and many other variables-- usless you are buying a small nozzle that will fit up your nose for huffing, and then they really get hit on markup. I suggest buying huffing equipment over the phone so the dealer doesn't see the gold paint and glitter around your nose and mouth areas --it really hurts your bargaining position.
On a side nore; Did you ever see the movie Ruthless People with Danny Devito, Bette Middler and judge Rhienhold? Judge R. sold stereo equioment and he and his wife (Helen Slate) decide to kidnap Dette Middler to get big money. Judge R., a stereo salesman, has second thoughts and judges himself by saying "I'm no criminal. i can't even sell stereo equipment at retail prices."[/QUOTE]
uh, the little kitty has a response
scottnbnj
10-29-2005, 07:17 PM
oh, i'm ~so~ impressed. he used 254 words without a single seedy insinuation about polk, kremlin, a polk guest being handicapped, their parenting skills, their parents, their parenting skills, members' children or fantasy about putting his mouth on someone's testicles.
i doubt that it's because he's learned anything though. my money's on just plain dumb luck.
maybe he should go buy a lottery ticket tonight.
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ohskigod
10-29-2005, 07:19 PM
you gotta be impressed with the "Ruthless People" movie segway
that alone screams the need for Zoloft.....LOL
scottnbnj
10-29-2005, 07:21 PM
woops, forgot. no discounts on lottery tickets.
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george daniel
10-29-2005, 08:36 PM
I think F1 just delivered an Atomic Knee Drop to Tommy Boy,,,uh oh,,here he goes for the sleeper hold :D
George Grand
10-29-2005, 09:26 PM
Jesse, you have no idea how bad I needed that laugh.
Tom Hayes, it takes a good man to realize when he needs to get out a little more, when he needs to lighten up a lot, to realize in the depths of his soul that he is hopelessly outclassed, and last but not least, that he needs to try a different approach. Good luck with all those endeavors.
Your new pal,
George Grand (of the Jersey Grands)
Jesse, I have some connazzes at Kremlin, can get you a great price, and think I can also manage to get it billed to Mr. Hayes' credit card. Just give me a nod.
tomhayes
10-29-2005, 09:34 PM
I've been criticized for my spellign [sic]. I've been told I'm no big dog. I've had a character count run on my replies. I've been called a shut in.
Someone call me a Nazi so this thread can reach it's logical conclusion.
Side note: I've gotten about 10 private messages basically saying that you guys are d*cks [Edited for virgin ears]. Of those, roughly 70% also understand when I was telling a joke (at other's expenses.)
Let's agree to agree - we differ on Polk pricing. : Or is that too whiny?
audiobliss
10-29-2005, 09:36 PM
Just for clarification, I wasn't saying anybody was a...what you said.
tomhayes
10-29-2005, 09:37 PM
Just for clarification, I wasn't saying anybody was a...what you said.
I didn't count you. You said you found the conflict entertaining and for me to 'lighten up.' You said it in a nice way though.
MacLeod
10-29-2005, 09:46 PM
C'mon guys, I think we're being too hard on Tom here.
He came in bitching about not being able to haggle price with the dealers and everybody turned on him pretty hard.
I didnt think the initial question was that out of line.
ohskigod
10-29-2005, 10:07 PM
George, good to see ya brotha :)
Tom, breathe. there just words on a screen. If I can see how much they bother you just by reading your typed replies, then you gotta stop taking yourself seriously. its an internet site dude, not high school.
the more you let us know it bothers you, were just gonna keep going. Especially F1nut, he's mercilous, yet highly entertaining :D
George Grand
10-29-2005, 10:29 PM
I can slap my head at least 3 times a day and utter the words, "George, that was dumb and you are an *******." Tom, your original question was not too bad, but downstream, that hand should've been moving.
George Grand (of the Jersey Grands)
Not back in a big way yet Lou, and definitely not listening to music yet. Still kind of sorting through things, but it was nice of you to say.
F1nut
10-29-2005, 10:31 PM
Side nore: I've gotten about 10 private messages basically saying that you guys are d*cks [Edited for virgin ears].
Ten PM's, eh? Is that like the 20 other speaker companies you mentioned earlier that you couldn't name and then admitted to be a number less than, but you still couldn't name because you haven't a clue?
Well in any case, I've received 36 PM's that say you're a troll.
Of those, roughly 70% also understand when I was telling a joke (at other's expenses.)
Again with the number estimates. Ok, here's some numbers. Out of my 36 PM's roughly 99.999% thought you were the joke.
Let's agree to agree - we differ on Polk pricing. : Or is that too whiny?
Nope, not going to happen. You see, it's not that we differ on Polk pricing. No, it's the fact that you came on here whining about it.....received good answers and yet continued to whine even more. I was going to stay out of it, but you just kept trolling and I don't like trolls.
GG.......cool bro, cool.
jwienand
10-29-2005, 10:38 PM
I don't care who you are this is funny (gotta love Larry the cable guy). Tommy definately needs to lighten up. :D :p :D
EDIT - Nice to see Mr. Grand back in the mix. Keep on truckin brother!!!
scottnbnj
10-29-2005, 10:42 PM
tom, just so you know. whether it bothers you isn't a factor for me, it's more about how poorly you act, react and man-up. and,i just thought i'd give everyone that writes pm's about f1 one more chance to confront him out in the open, mono a mono.
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scottnbnj
10-29-2005, 11:44 PM
C'mon guys, I think we're being too hard on Tom here.
He came in bitching about not being able to haggle price with the dealers and everybody turned on him pretty hard.
I didnt think the initial question was that out of line.
admit it. you secretly want 100 folks like that running loose in here just to fatten your sig file library.
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beardog03
10-29-2005, 11:54 PM
as a wise man once said...
POO NUGGETS..!!
good to hear from you George...
hope all is well with you , bro...
MacLeod
10-29-2005, 11:57 PM
admit it. you secretly want 100 folks like that running loose in here just to fatten your sig file library.
)
Hey, ya gotta look for the silver lining in everything! :D
F1nut
10-30-2005, 01:03 AM
LOL.......thanks to Robert for saying what really needed to be said, "POO NUGGETS" it is and with that, I'm done with this one. :)
keith allen
10-30-2005, 09:46 AM
Dang,I still use me old Binks no.7's...still the best!
BlueMDPicker
10-30-2005, 09:49 AM
POO NUGGETS..!!
I'm going to get out ahead of this one and predict the response:
"No fair saying POO NUGGETS!" :D
Would those nuggets be Winnie's????
Yes I know it's Pooh.
dragon1952
10-30-2005, 11:27 AM
(Keep it up. You are really showing the kind of person you are.)
This is considered funny here?
"
Yes we are of a rather sick humor around here :(
Oh well.....having said that, I thought it was funnier than hell :D
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