A/V Reciever advice

[FX4Newfie]

Hi,

I have just bought the following to replace my current speaker setup.

4 X TC265i in-wall speakers (Side and Back)
2 X RTi12 Floor Standing speakers (Front)
1 X CSi5 Center Channel speaker (Center)
1 X PSW505 Subwoofer (Sub)

I currently have a Home Theatre PowerCenter™ HTS 2000 MKII with Clean Power™ Stage 2 v.2.
http://www.monstercable.com/power/productPagePower.asp?pin=1900&LastPage=Home%20Theater%20Power

I also have a Pioneer VSX-D812K A/V Recevier.
http://www.pioneerelectronics.ca/pna/product/detail/0,,32171715_32252771_35784898,00.html?compName=PNA _ProductDetailComponent

What would be a good A/V receiver/amp to purchase that would go along with this system? Would there be any point keeping my current Pioneer VSX-D812K A/V Recevier? Should I purchase multiple amps? My budget is a little flexible but preferrably don't want to spend too much. Maximum would probably be about $2500, but preferrably keep the cost around $1500 or less.

Thanks,

Newfie

[Early B.]

You're gonna need a separate 2-channel amp (minimum 200 wpc) to power those Rti12's if you want to really hear what they can do. Then get a decent receiver with pre-outs. Definitely doable within your $1,500 price range, especially if you go with used gear. Check www.audiogon.com. It'll be a really nice system once you get it hooked up.

[amulford]

Do you like the sound of the pioneer? Use it as a pre, and get yourself a nice multichannel amp. Outlaw comes to mind, but there are alot to choose from. I prefer Sunfire, but I'm partial. Here is one at your limit. (http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?intamult&1138807278)

Try a pre owned higher end receiver. I have Sunfire Ultimate. Good for 7.1, 200 WPC @ 8 Ohms, 400 WPC @ 4. Does the job quite nicely, and is pretty musical to boot. You should be able to pick one up for less than $2K...

[gregure]

While separates are always a good idea due to the greater power and performance bigger amps provide, you may want to start with a good receiver, and upgrade to better amps in the future when you can afford it.
I would recommend looking at a SR8500 from Marantz. At 125 wpc it's a great piece, uses a torroidal transformer, and has a clear, open and powerful sound. It retails for $1500.
A Pioneer Elite VSX56TXi also has many of the same qualities as the Marantz, but is a tad brighter sounding. These have been discontinued, but should still be around here and there. You may be able to find one for cheap, as they originally retailed for $1500.
Toward the $2500 mark, look at a Rotel receiver. Probably the best sounding, most powerful receiver in that price range. I think their flagship receiver is $2500.
Any one of those would start you with a good system, and you could branch out for a better two-channel amp in the future when you've saved up some more $$$.

[McLoki]

You will be VERY hard pressed to beat this combo (http://www.outlawaudio.com/promo_pages/promo_7125trade.html). It is Outlaw's top of the line Pre/Pro, the 990, combined with their 7 channel 125watt/channel amp. The cool part is you can trade in the 125 watt/channel amp for a FULL refund when their new amp comes out if you decide the 125 just isn't doing it for you.

For only $1898 you get to not only step into the world of separates, but get a killer pre/pro and a decent amp. I would go this way and just get out of the reciever game if it is an option for you.

Michael

[okiepolkie]

You will be VERY hard pressed to beat this combo (http://www.outlawaudio.com/promo_pages/promo_7125trade.html). It is Outlaw's top of the line Pre/Pro, the 990, combined with their 7 channel 125watt/channel amp. The cool part is you can trade in the 125 watt/channel amp for a FULL refund when their new amp comes out if you decide the 125 just isn't doing it for you.

For only $1898 you get to not only step into the world of separates, but get a killer pre/pro and a decent amp. I would go this way and just get out of the reciever game if it is an option for you.

Michael




+1(more if I could) for this option

Zach

[kingtut]

You will be VERY hard pressed to beat this combo (http://www.outlawaudio.com/promo_pages/promo_7125trade.html). It is Outlaw's top of the line Pre/Pro, the 990, combined with their 7 channel 125watt/channel amp. The cool part is you can trade in the 125 watt/channel amp for a FULL refund when their new amp comes out if you decide the 125 just isn't doing it for you.

For only $1898 you get to not only step into the world of separates, but get a killer pre/pro and a decent amp. I would go this way and just get out of the reciever game if it is an option for you.

Michael

Totally in agreement.

[FX4Newfie]

Thanks for all your oppinions guys, much appreciated.
I think I will wait a little bit :( , and maybe by the spring have a look at the outlaw 990 pre/pro and maybe Outlaw's 7700 amp :) , I will probably try running everything with my Pioneer VSX-D812 until then. I am living in Northern Canada, Above the Arctic Circle Actually, and have to pay a lot of money for anything I want shipped up here. Anybody see any problems with me running the polks with the Pioneer Receiver?

Thanks, :D

[aaharvel]

if you don't want to into separates due to space i would look at NAD or Harman Kardon's 7300/740. Watts are important, but look for current capability, and a secondary power supply as well. They're just as if not more important than wattage specs.

You don't need 200 watts minimum to drive the rti12. You need alot of power sure, but not 200watts.

[FX4Newfie]

I hope people are still reading this thread.

I'm thinking that I will go ahead and get the outlaw combo. Now my next question is:

I'm assuming I have a 15 amp circuit in my living room to run my HT. Will a 15 amp circuit have any problem running the following:

Outlaw combo (990 pre/pro, 7125 amplifier)
50" Samsung DLP TV
Pioneer 6-pack cd-player
XBox
XBox 360
PSW505 Polk Sub
JVC DVD Player
Pioneer VSX-D812 AVR (May use this to bi-amp the RTI12's) Any suggestions on this?
Expressvu 9200 Dual Tuner HD PVR

This will be connected through a Monster HT2000 Powercenter
http://www.monstercable.com/power/productPagePower.asp?pin=1900&LastPage=Home%20Theater%20Power


Thanks alot for the help,

Newfie

[amulford]

It will. I would stick a 20 amp breaker on it anyway. But I have 2 dedicated 20's for my HT...

[sickicw]

I would think 15 amps would probably be enough. That all i have in my living room, and i have no problems right now. If you blow a circuit breaker because you turn it up too loud, then you will know you need to get a dedicated line.

I am thinking about selling my 990 pre/pro and 755 Amplifier. Might be a good idea to have 200 watts per channel (instead of 125) and then get a seperate amp for the 12s. anyhoo, im gonna probably be selling them sometime in january, so let me know.

Oh yea both come with about 4.8 years left on the transferable warrenty.

[heiney9]

I always vote to go with seperates if possible. If you decide a receiver is more what you are looking for. Adcom has a new very good/excellent AVR.

http://www.adcom.com/newproducts/gfr700ii.htm

H9

[Early B.]

"Pioneer VSX-D812 AVR (May use this to bi-amp the RTI12's) Any suggestions on this?"

Bad idea. Forget about it.