Moral Dilemma? [Archive]

wingnut4772

12-10-2005, 12:53 AM

I am posting this thread to see if maybe it's me and I actually am nuts but here goes.
Do you guys get angry if your significant other (whom you live with) spends his or her own money on something pricey without running it by you? I mean let's say they are paying all their bills in a timely manner (always) and all their responsibilities are met and they go out and spend...oh I don't know say $2100 on a subwoofer for their HT (which they love)...Of THEIR OWN MONEY. Not from a joint account or anything like that- Would you be angry at that? Enough to end it even?!

Also let's just say this person spends no money an anything else. Doesn't drink, smoke, cheat or even curse..but just likes to upgrade the ole' HT. They even sell the old stuff on Ebay to defray the cost.

Of course this is a hypothetical question and I don't actually...ahem...know of anyone in this situation but I am just asking. If this person felt justified in spending their hard earned money in the way that they see fit without having to obtain permission...would that be wrong? Or should large purchases be agreed upon no matter what?

karpiel666

12-10-2005, 12:59 AM

TroyD

12-10-2005, 01:01 AM

Depends on your arrangement. Would it be a married couple or a living together arrangement.

In my house, if I dropped 2G's on a sub without consultation......I'd be pushing my rig in a shopping cart, sleeping under a bridge.

BDT

beardog03

12-10-2005, 01:07 AM

I think you*ahem* , I mean this person has the right to do what makes them happy, as long as all the other things mentioned fall into play..and no one gets hurt..

you , or anybody, IMHO...have the right to do what makes you happy in this life
you earned it, and you have the right to enjoy it

you could always smoke, drink , curse , and cheat, and see if the "other" prefers that type of crap.
or #2... can learn to appreciate what he or she may be lucky enough to share their time with on this planet ...

bottom line...ya done good, stick to your guns...
I don`t think you have done anything that warrents a break up...sounds like an excuse to me..

my .02

brettw22

12-10-2005, 01:11 AM

Dropping 2k in a relationship I'd say would be a bad move. Unless it's money that's been specifically set aside in a slush fund of sorts, ultimately it should be talked about.

The real way to answer your question is would YOU be pissed to the same level if she went out and bought a $2100 bracelet and didn't ask you about it?

Tour2ma

12-10-2005, 01:21 AM

In my house, if I dropped 2G's on a sub without consultation......I'd be pushing my rig in a shopping cart...LOL....

My second time around finances are strickly on a Yours, Mine and Ours basis. We take care of the ours first, and from there consultation is optional. First marriage lacked this understanding. A contributing factor to why I refer to it as "my 1st marriage." BUT... you have to come to this understanding before acting like it is in effect.

As for WAF of the purchase, fortunately living space here is on a similar basis, and the HT room is mine.

Demiurge

12-10-2005, 01:25 AM

Yeah, you should have something set up thats not 'technically' for joint purposes, an allowance of sorts, where you can spend the money however you want.

Giving your circumstances, however, I would think that if you did bring it up and there was a huge stink made over it I would probably question my significant other for saying 'no'. Especially when you're all caught up on bills and have a good cushion of cash stocked away. If it brings you joy and you can afford it, you should be able to have it. Only reason for saying anything is if there's other needs for the money you might not know about. I'd have big issues with someone trying to tell me how to spend my money beyond that.

So yes, you should say something, if you're married.

That's one of the nice things about being single. Walk in the front door of your house, set your stuff down and yell - "I'm going to go out and buy a big screen TV, any objections? No? Okay..." :p

janmike

12-10-2005, 01:30 AM

I consult with my wife out of respect. She would never say No, nor would I if she really wanted something within our range. Then again, we are married. That's what it is all about.

RuSsMaN

12-10-2005, 01:59 AM

2g's is a definate consult. If not even permission, just to 'let you know this is what I'm doing'.

Then again, unless your sig other found the receipt, or you squealed like a stuck pig, they shouldn't know how much it cost. 'Hey, I got a new subwoofer for the HT rig - now get your bitch ass in the kitchen, and make me some pie.'

wingnut4772

12-10-2005, 02:01 AM

Well we ..um....I mean these people... :D are not married although we are a couple living together (in sin) . I have my bank account and he has his. There actually is no joint account..we just each pay our half.

RuSsMaN

12-10-2005, 02:04 AM

Then it shouldn't be an issue.

thehaens@cox.net

12-10-2005, 02:06 AM

Sometimes you just have to live by asking for forgiveness, than permission....I didn't exactly tell my wife when I purchased my 1.2's.

She was out, they were delivered. And she came home, and we "talked" about it the next day. It's not like she could of thrown em' out of the house....

Scott

cmy330go

12-10-2005, 03:04 AM

My wife and I have an agreement that if either of us want to spend signifigant money on "fun" stuff we at least mention it. I know she doesn't fully understand my hobby purchases, and I don't fully understand her $500 pairs of shoes, and purses :eek: . But as long as we tell each other about it...we're cool with it.

To each their own.

F1nut

12-10-2005, 03:33 AM

Darla, tell your boyfriend to suck it up and be a man. JHC, ya think he'd be thrilled to have a new sub in the house.

wingnut4772

12-10-2005, 03:42 AM

He says it's either the sub or him and to send it back. I told him I am keeping it and I shouldn't have to ask his permission to spend the money that I work so hard for. Like I said, it's is ALL my money. Paid for cash. By me. And all the mutual bills are paid without delay. I guess I just don't like having someone tell me what I can and can't do with my money...Maybe I am wrong. I am a little confused. I mean we bought the house together...so maybe? I don't know I just need to keep my independence.

danger boy

12-10-2005, 03:52 AM

2 grand is a chunk of change.. for me anyways.. I had to ahem get on my knees, to be able to bring the SDA's into the house. :eek: :p

but it's always a good idea to talk about it.. most of us in here would love to be able to buy a subwoofer and not have to ask the other half.. but then we do have to live with them too. I'd expect you'd like to be given some notice or at the very least be consulted about a purchase your other half made if it was the same amount..

wingnut4772

12-10-2005, 03:55 AM

Really? Even if it is only your money? Hmmmmm. Ok I guess. My friends are telling me " It's your money and you can't let him control what you do" to "yeah , you should've discussed it"....so now I am confused. I don't want to send it back.

Danny Tse

12-10-2005, 04:03 AM

Like I said, it's is ALL my money. Paid for cash. By me. And all the mutual bills are paid without delay. I guess I just don't like having someone tell me what I can and can't do with my money...Maybe I am wrong. I am a little confused. I mean we bought the house together...so maybe? I don't know I just need to keep my independence.

Hmmm....I totally understand where you are coming from. But $2K is a significant amount, even for a sub. It's not like you're buying a $500.00 sub, or even a $1K sub.

Heck, if you can afford it, why not? I suppose a "heads up" would be good.

wingnut4772

12-10-2005, 04:04 AM

Oh and I forgot to say that he found out how much it was by looking on the internet and doing his own research. It was ok until then..Oh...and Did I mention it's my money? We do not even have a joint account...but now maybe I am starting to feel a little guilty. I mean it was really bad. Like 'it's over' and ' enjoy your subwoofer in your new house' etc.

If he wanted to get anything with his money he would not have to run it by me. As long as he pays his share of the bills it's fine by me. Unless it is something that pertains to the house which would require a joint decision like furnishings etc. but other than that I am not his mother. He earns his money just like I do.

danger boy

12-10-2005, 04:18 AM

I don't think you have to send it back. that's taking it to far.

if it's a problem. it'll blow over in time.

post a pic of it.. i wanna see what a 2K subwoofer looks like. ;)

TroyD

12-10-2005, 04:42 AM

A guy whining about buying a sub for HT?

A real manly man, no doubt.

BDT

Man, I could REALLY go wheels off here....

F1nut

12-10-2005, 04:43 AM

This reminds me of a time in my life......many, many years ago I had a live in girlfriend. I brought $3500.00 (my money) worth of gear home one day, no advance discussion (it was my money, I paid my bills and some of hers too) as I didn't feel as though I needed permission. Anyway, she flips out....says she thought we were saving for a house! I say, "Was I there for that discussion?" She got over it, I think. I broke up with her a few months later.

There is no right or wrong answer, IMO. Every relationship/marriage operates differently. You just found out how part of yours works......or doesn't. Perhaps a long, calm discussion will smooth things over. If not, you shouldn't have much of a problem finding a new guy, most of us love audio gear. :D

TroyD

12-10-2005, 04:44 AM

Did you tell her to get her bitch ass back in the kitchen and make you some pie?

BDT

F1nut

12-10-2005, 04:48 AM

I ate out for awhile after that one, no telling what rat poison she might have got her hands on.

TroyD

12-10-2005, 04:51 AM

Smart move.....see Wendi wouldn't poison me. Too subtle.

She's the type who would gouge my heart out with a dull spoon and hold in front of my face still beating.

BDT

F1nut

12-10-2005, 04:53 AM

That's true love.

TroyD

12-10-2005, 04:56 AM

Hello?
Say it!
HAARRRRRR!!!!!

TroyD

12-10-2005, 05:00 AM

I STILL can't believe that a guy is whining about a woman buying a subwoofer. My mind can't take it in. If Wendi spent a couple G's on gear? Geeze, that gives me wood thinking about it.

Lookit, just tell him he can STILL wear your clothes. Maybe even let him pick out something nice at the Dress Barn. Maybe go for a Decaf Double Latte after. He should be good to go then.

BDT

F1nut

12-10-2005, 05:01 AM

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

F1nut

12-10-2005, 05:04 AM

Is his name Trevize?

HAARRRRRR!!!!!

TroyD

12-10-2005, 05:08 AM

Eh, Nah, he'd be to preoccupied with assembling the Habitrail.

BDT

F1nut

12-10-2005, 05:13 AM

Not to mention his new gerbil.

Tour2ma

12-10-2005, 05:49 AM

Damn... did this thread take a gender bending twist...

ND13

12-10-2005, 06:11 AM

Eh, Nah, he'd be to preoccupied with assembling the Habitrail.

BDT

I thought he'd be using his money to finance research on cable theory :rolleyes:

brettw22

12-10-2005, 06:20 AM

2 grand is a chunk of change.. for me anyways.. I had to ahem get on my knees, to be able to bring the SDA's into the house. :eek: :p ROFLMAO!!!!!!!! Brutal honesty..........love it.

wingnut4772

12-10-2005, 06:20 AM

TroyD

12-10-2005, 07:14 AM

NOW you are talkin' !!!!

(glad you took the humor as intended)

BDT

wingnut4772

12-10-2005, 07:14 AM

Okay...we smoothed it out AND...it's not going back. We just made an agreement to discuss these things beforehand and I guess I can live with that to keep the peace. :rolleyes: So thanks you guys for all your help. It was really good to get different viewpoints. :)

TroyD

12-10-2005, 07:18 AM

Always easier to beg for forgivness than ask permission!

Smooth it out? C'mon, be like every woman I've ever known and just tell him the way shit goes down in this 'hood.

BDT

george daniel

12-10-2005, 07:46 AM

I am reminded of a movie with this line,, "what we have here,,,,is failure to communicate" etc,etc. :)

billbillw

12-10-2005, 08:30 AM

Maybe the guy prefered another brand of subwoofer ;)

Kidding aside, my wife STILL brings it up occasionally about how mad she was the I bought a $650 digital camera without telling her. Mind you I immediately sold all my film camera gear, our other digital, and film scanner for more than $1400 combined. Sad thing is I did "run it by her" and told her I was thinking of doing this to "simplify" our camera situation. She didn't seem to object, so I just pulled the trigger when I found the best deal. She was mad because I didn't discuss it again when I actually bought it.

Needless to say, other upgrades have been done with much more cunning and stealth if needed. She never noticed the upgrade from the Denon 2802 to the 4802. Did local pickup and swapped it out when she was gone. To her its just a black box up there. As long as the universal remote hasn't changed she doesn't notice these things. Bringing in the SVS sub couldn't be hiden though. I just had to wait to sell a few things before I bought it and I financed it from my PayPal. She never asked and I never told her how much it cost.

steveinaz

12-10-2005, 10:20 AM

If buying a sub is all it takes to split you 2, there's underlying issues.

My wife does not question my purchases, but as a courtesy I always let her know when I'm buying something, say over $300....and I seek her opinion. It's the right thing to do. I try to make sure I'm not being selfish with my buys as well---example; I won't spend $1000 bucks on something, and then take her to some place cheesy for vacation, again, that ain't right.

shack

12-10-2005, 10:25 AM

Oh and I forgot to say that he found out how much it was by looking on the internet and doing his own research. It was ok until then...
THIS is what would make me mad....If you want to know how much it costs...ASK! You gotta think this is something that will be repeated with other things...

My wife and I trust each other to spend what we know we can afford. She might get pissed because there is another "BIG UGLY BOX" in the den...but she won't bitch because of what I paid...because she knows it's not "too much".

avelanchefan

12-10-2005, 10:34 AM

Okay first off if Wingnut WAS married I would think that there would be some type of consultation before the purchase, but since there is no ring on her finger, they share the bills with their own accounts, then I would say there should be no guilt factor, nor any consultation on any of your purchases until there is some type of stronger "union".

I asked an old girlfriend to do something for me one time, she said no, I kinda got pissed, and she pointed out that she had no ring on her finger and she could do as she pleased, so I agreed. Then I dumped her and married someone else. But that was just out of spite. ;)

cmy330go

12-10-2005, 12:13 PM

I won't spend $1000 bucks on something, and then take her to some place cheesy for vacation, again, that ain't right.

HEHE. :D

Sounds like there could be a good story behind this!

cmy330go

12-10-2005, 12:20 PM

She never noticed the upgrade from the Denon 2802 to the 4802.

Dang.....Lucky you. That is a big jump in size, and style (buttons under trap door). Unfortunately I'm pretty certain my wife would notice a growing black box. :rolleyes:

F1nut

12-10-2005, 12:42 PM

Damn, I was getting ready to move to Miami. ;)

wingnut4772

12-10-2005, 02:22 PM

Damn, I was getting ready to move to Miami. Only I would find the one guy in the world who doesn't get hot for this stuff! :rolleyes:

I have been sneaky also. I don't like to be but mysteriously one night the Polk Fairy came and replaced my Rti100s with LSi15's. He never noticed. Also the Denon Fairy came one night and beat the crap out of the Sony Fairy and replaced my Sony DVD with the Denon 2910. I guess he just never heard the struggle :D

There are some other issues also of course...I mean we just bought this house and it was way expensive so he is stressing about that. I wish he was into HT like I am ..but he does enjoy watching the Red Sox in HD on my Tv - that I can assure you.

TroyD

12-10-2005, 02:46 PM

This guy just keeps getting more and more masculine. :D

The only problem with F1 is he would probably use more hairspray than you do.

BDT

cmy330go

12-10-2005, 02:54 PM

...the Polk Fairy came and replaced my Rti100s with LSi15's. He never noticed. Also the Denon Fairy came one night and beat the crap out of the Sony Fairy and replaced my Sony DVD with the Denon 2910.

You sure this guy is straight????? Is his name Mark, Rick, or Steve? I mean does he have a fondness for track lighting? If you were to say the names Manolo Blahnik or Louis Vuitton would he know what you were reffering to, or even worse smile????

Just trying to help here. :D

TroyD

12-10-2005, 03:00 PM

He may WATCH the Red Sox but can he explain the infield fly rule?

BDT

RuSsMaN

12-10-2005, 03:01 PM

I'm confused. Who in this thread is a woman, and who is a gay man? I know Brett, Al, and Troy are gay, but who else?

polkatese

12-10-2005, 03:06 PM

I get a fly by.

*whoozze*

Ricardo

12-10-2005, 03:32 PM

Is his name Trevize?

HAARRRRRR!!!!!

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

That's got to be the best one this year...priceless..

Edit: Yeah, I know;a whole page later takes all the......something away :)

BobMcG

12-10-2005, 04:19 PM

He says it's either the sub or him and to send it back.

Holy crap!

It doesn't matter what someone else has to do in their house or their relationship. It all has no bearing on your circumstance. It's a case by case type of thing. Under the conditions you've set forth, I see it as your prerogative to make the purchase.

Bossing you around seems to be more important to him than keeping the relationship. I wouldn't sent it back, I tell him to grow up and get over it. (Right now I'm tring to picture him bent over and you with your feet planted firmly on the sub seeing how well it would fit up his a**.) :D

danger boy

12-10-2005, 05:00 PM

I'm confused. Who in this thread is a woman, and who is a gay man? I know Brett, Al, and Troy are gay, but who else?

we're just flipping wingnut some sh*t that her other half may play for our team. :p

all in fun of course. :D

wingnut4772

12-10-2005, 05:15 PM

All in good fun.. He is a rather manly man outside of the electronic stuff. An outdoorsy kinda guy really. Not into computers or stereos or stuff like that. I am the Geek in this relationship. He is just very responsible and frugal and ,ok , maybe a little controlling but guess what? I am keeping the sub and for all his barking guess who is still here. You'd be amazed at what blondes can get away with ;)

F1nut

12-10-2005, 05:48 PM

I don't need no stinkin' hairspray!

Blondie, eh!?! :D

Tour2ma

12-10-2005, 06:41 PM

He is a rather manly man outside...
So are these guys...

http://www.joblo.com/small-poster-images/brokebackposter.jpg

cfrizz

12-10-2005, 07:14 PM

Hey Darla, from the sounds of it, I think you should keep the sub & tell him that until he puts a ring on your finger & says I do, and you have a joint checking account, what you do with YOUR money is your business.

As long as BOTH of you are keeping up with your obligations FIRST, then this shouldn't be a big deal.

This would be different if the 2 of you were married, then I would say that you should have at least given him a heads up about the purchase.

But since you are not, tell him to not let the door hit him on the way out, & make sure he only takes what belongs to him when he leaves!

Cathy

heiney9

12-10-2005, 07:55 PM

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! You guys have made me feel better already. He does not get into Ht....we will see what happens. In the meantime I think he should get his bitch ass in the kitchen and make me some pie!

WAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! LMAO! If he can't appreciate what sounds like an awesome new HT sub....maybe he should put on an apron for awhile get his bitch ass cooking and cleaning while you sit down pop open a cold one and jam out!!

H9

heiney9

12-10-2005, 08:05 PM

Only I would find the one guy in the world who doesn't get hot for this stuff! :rolleyes:

I have been sneaky also. I don't like to be but mysteriously one night the Polk Fairy came and replaced my Rti100s with LSi15's. He never noticed. Also the Denon Fairy came one night and beat the crap out of the Sony Fairy and replaced my Sony DVD with the Denon 2910. I guess he just never heard the struggle :D

There are some other issues also of course...I mean we just bought this house and it was way expensive so he is stressing about that. I wish he was into HT like I am ..but he does enjoy watching the Red Sox in HD on my Tv - that I can assure you.

Maybe the boy friend fairy came and kidnapped the real man and replaced him with well......a fairy :D :p

OK that's it...I'll take no more pot shots at someone I don't even know and can't defend themselves ;) . Sounds like things worked out. It would have been a shame to end it over a mis-understanding like that.

Good luck

H9

madmax

12-10-2005, 08:11 PM

I just don't know what to say after reading this thread. First off I find out about Troy, then I'm thinking about this guy is who doesn't like subs and such, then I start thinking of commitment and the like. Cfrizz had it right in my opinion. I'd have a second one delivered tomorrow for stereo bass...
madmax

heiney9

12-10-2005, 08:21 PM

Cfrizz had it right in my opinion. I'd have a second one delivered tomorrow for stereo bass...
madmax

Ditto...keep pushing the envelope until you find his limits. At least *if* you need a future *hot* button I think you've found it :eek: .

H9

petrym

12-10-2005, 11:37 PM

cfrizz

12-10-2005, 11:45 PM

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! :D

Thank you, Thank you very much!!!

Now if only I could find a MAN who could handle this forthright attitude!!! :D

As soon as I let it be known that I will NOT let them walk all over me, they run away!!! :D

Oh well, I still have my rig to keep me happy!!!! :D

Leave it up to cfrizz to talk some absolute sense into this, she got it figured right out... cfrizz for president! :D

wingnut4772

12-10-2005, 11:59 PM

Thanks Cfrizz. I wish it were that easy but with the house and all we have a lot invested together. I really don't feel like selling it seeming as I just bought it and well.....I kinda like the guy. I didn't se him complaining when I bought him $600.00 U2 tix for his B-day though. I don't remember running that by him. They were awesome seats too.

cam5860

12-11-2005, 12:14 AM

I mean now i can see where he is coming from 2,000 dollars for a subwoofer is a lot of money. If you had went out and bought a whole stereo system i could understand that a whole lot better than just a damn sub. I have been in car audio since i was old enough to drive thats always been my passion is have the best sound i can afford in my truck, but i must admit i used to have a problem of always wanting to upgrade every few months. I felt like there was better stuff than what i owned but it even bothered me about spending all that money and i was single because lets face it anyway you look at it that's throwing away money it's not a need it's a want. You have to look at it this way you have to use common sense no matter how much money you make or have. 2,000 dollars for a subwoofer is not using common sense. I mean hell the jl audio w7's don't cost that much and they are considered one of the best subs on the market.

wingnut4772

12-11-2005, 12:26 AM

Hey..I never said it made sense...just that it was my money. You are right though. It is easy to get caught in the frenzy of better better better. I honestly don't think I will be upgrading my sub again though...I mean Ever. I think I am pretty set all around actually....except maybe that Earthquake Cinenova amp. Hmmmmmmmmm.... :D

beardog03

12-11-2005, 12:26 AM

maybe so , but they aint SVS...

ya beet me to it wing...you will never need to upgrade that baby...

**ah...never mind, I`m already in enough trouble***!

Ised8u

12-11-2005, 12:32 AM

I think that anyone should be able to spend their own money any way they want, as long as all the other responsibilities are taken care of. We arent alive long enough to worry about spending money on fun stuff.

AMEN!!!

I bet had this individual used his/her money for... lets say "suprise" there prob. would be no discussion on this forum regarding upgrading your....i mean.... this individuals HT.

I always say...It's only money

cam5860

12-11-2005, 12:33 AM

I mean thats what i love about polk audio is you get outstanding products at a reasonable price. Thats what i call using common sense buying polk audio products.

wingnut4772

12-11-2005, 12:39 AM

I agree that I should save and be responsible (and I do) but I could also get hit by a bus tomorrow. Last year I was involved in a shooting at work( I was fine-the other guy not so much) and later in the year I was hospitalized with a pulmonary embolism after a flight to Boston. Mind you- I am in great shape , don't smoke or anything and still got the PE so I know all too well that anything can happen and you sure can't take it with you. (Although I am going to try like hell to get that sub up there!)

shack

12-11-2005, 12:56 AM

Dennis Gardner

12-11-2005, 01:08 AM

Your money is his money. If you didn't know that before, you know now. He just told you so.

wingnut4772

12-11-2005, 01:12 AM

Well he is in for a big surprise then Ha. He makes more than me though so I just think he is just afraid I am going to dig a hole with this hobby. I can kinda understand. It does get nuts...but I am done for a long while. Seriously. No , really I am.

beardog03

12-11-2005, 01:17 AM

riiiiight..!!

you do have a really nice rig...but..!!

Better amplification is always a welcome addition to good speakage..!!
tubes are veeery nice..!!

I don`t want to get ya into more trouble though..!!

I still say , stick to your guns...ya done good..!!

Dennis Gardner

12-11-2005, 01:24 AM

He makes more than me though so I just think he is just afraid I am going to dig a hole with this hobby.

I sense more control than concern. If he was concerned he would show you compassion. You said he was willing to show himself the way out.

Yeah he's concerned...............about his money. ;)

How are you 2 on kids and religion? You already have 1 strike n the $$$ end. ;)

None of my/our business, just thinkin out loud......

wingnut4772

12-11-2005, 01:33 AM

We are pretty much in agreement on those things. I have known him since high school. We have been great friends for all this time and about 2 years ago it changed into more. I guess it's funny how that can change things.

Dennis Gardner

12-11-2005, 01:37 AM

Cool... those 3 areas are the most sensitive issues, most others work themselves out, but the main 3 are fundamental.

Hope you like your new sub!

Tour2ma

12-11-2005, 01:37 AM

Dennis Gardner

12-11-2005, 01:38 AM

Does He think wire makes a difference?

Classic, Bruce. Maybe we can get the end-all final answer to that age old question! :D

beardog03

12-11-2005, 01:39 AM

that piece of paper makes changes no one expects..
one day of happiness and partyin, and the next thing ya know...the wife aint talkin to ya cause ya want to buy $250 speaker stands..(that`s right jesse..those ones!)
just my o2

Oh, and make no mistake...I will have my stands..!!!
Just waiting on more info on the other pair before I pull the ol trigger..!!

wingnut4772

12-11-2005, 01:40 AM

I dare not even tell him that we get that crazy. He will just shake his head and call the men in the white coats.

beardog03

12-11-2005, 01:40 AM

Does He think wire makes a difference?

the wife say`s NO..
mistery solv-ed

madmax

12-11-2005, 10:33 AM

Here you go, whenever he complains unhook the wires to the driver and hook them to his toes while he is sleeping and turn it up. A little shocking but should make a good point... :)
madmax

amulford

12-11-2005, 11:48 AM

I just have to laugh. I am in a "living arrangement". I catch hell ALL the time about my "hobby/sickness". But it's real nice to see the family cozied up on the couch watching a movie with the house shaking, or playing video games upstairs in 5.1. (They aren't allowed to TOUCH the 2 channel rig)

I make 80% of the money. Our bills are paid. We eat well. The kids have new clothes. Yada yada yada.

If I spend, I do it on pre owned. No traces ;) You can lie your ass off about how much it costs, like it matters.

Hey, as long as you take care of business, it's all good. He'll get over it.

cfrizz

12-11-2005, 02:31 PM

You have a level head on your shoulders Darla, I didn't know that the 2 of you owned the house when I typed what I did.

I would just say to make sure that you maintain the equality of the partnership that the 2 of you have, & don't let him get away with dictating to you.

Enjoy your outstanding system!!!!! :D

Cathy

Thanks Cfrizz. I wish it were that easy but with the house and all we have a lot invested together. I really don't feel like selling it seeming as I just bought it and well.....I kinda like the guy. I didn't se him complaining when I bought him $600.00 U2 tix for his B-day though. I don't remember running that by him. They were awesome seats too.

nadams

12-11-2005, 02:39 PM

I'm sorry... but at $2000, hasn't the point of diminishing returns been far surpassed when it comes to subs? Sure, there are gains to be had, but can it sound that much better than a $1000 sub? Guess it all depends on the HT setup...

Anyway, on the opposite side of things, my girlfriend could care less about my obsession with speakers. She likes to listen to good music, but doesn't really care how it gets to her ears. I told her that if we ever get married, the speakers have to stay. She says that's fine as long as she has room for her shoes :p. That's a few years off, anyway...

wingnut4772

12-11-2005, 05:22 PM

I guess that you have never heard the Pb12 Ultra/2. ;) During this madness I placed the Pc PLus back just to revisit the difference and there was just no going back after hearing this sub. It's night and day.

cam5860

12-11-2005, 06:07 PM

Wingnut4772 thats true that we might not live to see tomorrow hell for all i know i could get killed going to work in the morning. But that don't mean im going to run out there i spend all my savings and cash my investments in just because i could get killed tomorrow. I mean you just have to have a cut off point in anything you do. Now i don't have a problem with you buying audio products because i love them also, but you also have to make wise decisions.

F1nut

12-11-2005, 06:13 PM

Does it look like she lives in the poor house?

Tour2ma

12-11-2005, 07:38 PM

Nah... Lives in the empty SVS box...

nadams

12-11-2005, 09:19 PM

It sounds big enough :D

I guess I just won't understand, because I'm not into HT... yet

BIZILL

12-11-2005, 09:56 PM

During this madness I placed the Pc PLus back just to revisit the difference and there was just no going back after hearing this sub. It's night and day.
....KNOCK IT OFF!!! why do you keep hurtin' my fragile little feelers?

wingnut4772

12-11-2005, 10:00 PM

KNOCK IT OFF!!! why do you keep hurtin' my fragile little feelers?

I'm sorry...I guess if I had never heard it? The PC PLus rocks though, really. It's just that, IMO, the PB12 Ultra/2 is just that darn good. :o

BIZILL

12-11-2005, 10:02 PM

when you gonna update them pics in your "obsession"? you've got pics of an svs tube. how many svs's have you used and abused and discarded for something new? wowsers!

wingnut4772

12-11-2005, 10:03 PM

Does it look like she lives in the poor house?

That room you see is the ONLY room done and the only one that will be done for years before we can remodel. The housing prices in Miami are so insane that we pretty much just really bit the bullet on it and did it before it was too late to afford anything.

BIZILL

12-11-2005, 10:06 PM

can i move in? i'll do the cooking and cleaning. we'll set my system up in the guesthouse or garage or somewhere else menial.

wingnut4772

12-11-2005, 10:24 PM

Oh yes..I am sure that will go over really well :D

Vr3MxStyler2k3

12-11-2005, 10:33 PM

It sounds big enough :D

I guess I just won't understand, because I'm not into HT... yet

Honestly, I could see me owning/building a subwoofer on the caliber of the SVS B4...

Something to hit that loud, that low for HT... hmmm

HT is fun... and the only reason its fun is the bass. :)

Rock on.

McLoki

12-11-2005, 10:34 PM

Maybe if you expained that for 2 grand you not only got a sub, but a sublet......

amulford

12-11-2005, 10:39 PM

Honestly, I could see me owning/building a subwoofer on the caliber of the SVS B4...

Something to hit that loud, that low for HT... hmmm

HT is fun... and the only reason its fun is the bass. :)

Rock on.

I'm thiinking of doing something along those lines, myself...

I think I could do it for a little less, and have the satisfaction of sweat equity.

shack

12-11-2005, 11:01 PM

Why does the phrase "Those that don't know...DON'T KNOW" keep popping into my head?

Vr3MxStyler2k3

12-11-2005, 11:06 PM

I'm thiinking of doing something along those lines, myself...

I think I could do it for a little less, and have the satisfaction of sweat equity.

Although putting similar quality drivers in four enclosures or w/e wouldnt be an equal... Im not sure what you would have to do to make an equal performmer.

The SVS B4 is fairly unique in that its a push pull AND ported AND a large box, making it extremely effecient in more ways than one...

I bet that thing gets loud as crap with modest power...

But I wouldnt mind having something of that caliber in my theater in the future...

Probally could make something of similar quality for around 2 grand... give or take...

Get like three 15" Tumults (3-4" of excursion) - with about 3,000 watts of power (1,000 each) tuned to about 22hz...

That might could do it.

amulford

12-11-2005, 11:09 PM

Why does the phrase "Those that don't know...DON'T KNOW" keep popping into my head?

Hey, whaddaya tryin to say????

Tour2ma

12-11-2005, 11:14 PM

That he has a one-track mind?

shack

12-11-2005, 11:19 PM

Just rhetorical musings.....

billbillw

12-12-2005, 12:00 AM

Dang.....Lucky you. That is a big jump in size, and style (buttons under trap door). Unfortunately I'm pretty certain my wife would notice a growing black box. :rolleyes:

Eh, you'd be surprised. The 4802 is only 1/2 inch taller and the same width, same color, same basic display, the big knobs are in the same place. She never really sees it up close anyway. She uses the universal remote from 12 feet away in a room that is usally darkened. If it works and there is nothing obviously different, she would never really notice.

reeltrouble1

12-12-2005, 10:46 AM

Wing and Frizz,

Psssst, hey ladies.........................I would like to mention the possibilities of the vacuum tube. :D

RT1 has educated his fine wife so that she now understands 2,000 is a very reasonable purchase for some fine audio gear. RT1 also tends to keep his mouth his shut about things (likes your fairy analogy) and buy's his damsel the pretty stones, shiny crystal and fancy pots she likes.

When pinned in the corner with no escape:

Oh, yes, well dear, see, I sold a piece to buy this one, we are actually ahead on the deal..........besides this was my BD, XMAS, Labor Day, 4th July, present to myself............I got a really great deal it was on closeout, the new model is going to be 1000 more...........

Enjoy your new sub.

RT1

wingnut4772

12-12-2005, 10:59 AM

I did do that. I sold my old sub on Ebay and some other things but not $ 2000.00 worth. I think he would also be able to tell if suddenly my 770 was replaced with an Earthquake cinenova too. Damn that green Outlaw light!

McLoki

12-12-2005, 11:07 AM

Looks like you have to keep the outlaw (bi-amp your other speakers?) and add the Earthquake to the mix.

There must be a closet, shelf with a door, or something that you can throw it in. With an automatic turn on and off via the trigger output on your pre-amp, you will be in business. A beast like that may want its own circut anyway... (and if the earthquake is not available, I can recommend Cinepro as a great substitute)

Keep chanting the audio mantra - outta site, outta mind. If you can't disguise it, hide it......

wingnut4772

12-12-2005, 11:27 AM

Ha. Who would have ever thought that this hobby would end up being Mission Impossible. ' This message will self destruct....'

TroyD

12-12-2005, 01:55 PM

As Ted said....tuuuuubbbes.

Prettier than diamonds, IMHO.

BDT

cfrizz

12-12-2005, 02:13 PM

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! :D

You guys are CRAZY!

RT you keep on going bud, you might talk someone into tubes but it won't be me!!!! :D

Darla, dun dun de de dun dun de de dun dun! :D :D

Troy, only a guy WOULD think that a little glowing lightbulb is prettier than diamonds!

madmax

12-12-2005, 02:16 PM

I agree. Tubes, a guys best friend.
madmax

Demiurge

12-12-2005, 02:27 PM

As long as you want kids. :eek:

wingnut4772

12-12-2005, 02:31 PM

Ok . I have finally updated my HT pics (click on link) to include the homewrecking Jezebel. As you can see it is a mammoth beast..but..it sounds so purdy :) .
To further elaborate on the difference between this and the PC Plus 20-39, it hits harder, lower and ,oh my God, louder! The bass is tighter and more layered and detailed. I have the gain only up a quarter and the sub set at maybe 1 db hot and it shakes the whole house. I had the gain on the PC plus at about 1/2 and ran it about 3-4 db hot and it did not even begin to approach the power and output of this thing. I am also not as able to 'locate' this sub as far as telling where the bass is coming from as I could somewhat with the PC Plus.

It is a little large and decor is way important for me but it is so awesome and I know it can move with me wherever I go if I ever get a house with a larger HT room so there you go.

I guess it's pretty obvious why the fairies couldn't work their sneaky magic on this one. ;)

BIZILL

12-12-2005, 02:47 PM

i can view the thumbs, but not the enlarged originals. walnut?

wingnut4772

12-12-2005, 02:48 PM

Hmmm.. I wonder why? It's maple actually.

reeltrouble1

12-12-2005, 03:36 PM

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! :D

You guys are CRAZY!

RT you keep on going bud, you might talk someone into tubes but it won't be me!!!! :D

My dear Frizz, I am nothing if not persistant upon the path. A little tube Gestalt for you:

I have seen no metal, glass, or wire here, but attest to a glow which floats it music to my ear.

audiobliss

12-12-2005, 03:37 PM

Where was the link to the pics?

BIZILL

12-12-2005, 03:47 PM

wingnut's signature.

audiobliss

12-12-2005, 04:15 PM

Wow. That's an awesome sub!

Oh, and btw, you have your mains listed as 'LSI5'...pretty sure you mean LSi15.

Looks like a great setup!

wingnut4772

12-12-2005, 04:18 PM

Thanks ! :D I really should see about going on disability for this blonde condition I have.

Skynut

12-12-2005, 04:20 PM

What a crazy thread.
I do not even know where to start.

In my relationship we discuss large purchases up to a point but I have not discovered what that point is. If she bought something for $2000.00 of her money I might trip alittle but not to the point of "it goes or I go". I would like to be involved in that purchase. Especially if she wanted to replace a peice of my HT.

I recently spent over $1000.00 on another hobby I have and she didn't even trip.

It depends on many things but one is establishing a base line of what is acceptible. I think you have found the high in that figure.

Next time go for something in the $1500.00 range and check his reaction.
If he has no problem then he learned his lesson and you spend $2000.00 again to make sure.
If he gets pissed then step down to $1200.00 to see if that makes him happy.

Each time you check him you get something new and learn more about yourmate.
eventually you will either find a comfort zone or a new mate. :D

steveinaz

12-12-2005, 04:25 PM

See, you learn something new everyday---prior to this thread I didn't know Wingnut was a gal.
Rock on! Give'm hell...kitty got claws and all that stuff...LOL!

reeltrouble1

12-12-2005, 04:27 PM

I can view them just fine. Nice setup, when you having us "boys" over!! Play a little nine ball, some flicks, you know how "well behaved" we are!! ;) :D

RT1

BIZILL

12-12-2005, 04:34 PM

I can view them just fine. Nice setup, when you having us "boys" over!! Play a little nine ball, some flicks, you know how "well behaved" we are!! ;) :D

RT1
especially when we're all liquored up.

wingnut4772

12-12-2005, 04:40 PM

Thanks again guys! And I am sure that those plans will go over really well. I can see it now.
" Hey honey? Remember that $2100.00 sub you hate and wanted me to return? Well now a whole bunch of guys are coming over to listen to it, drink beer and play pool.....now get your bitch ass in the kitchen and make me that pie!" Ha

BIZILL

12-12-2005, 04:41 PM

don't forget to let him know i'm already loading up the u-haul. we're gonna have two home theaters and two pool tables. got space?

wingnut4772

12-12-2005, 04:45 PM

Got the space! ;)

Skynut

12-12-2005, 05:10 PM

If he is willing to let you keep the house, the least you could do is point him out to his replacement and laugh your way to happy ever after.

cfrizz

12-12-2005, 09:31 PM

This has been one of the funniest threads I've read in ages!!!!!

I love this board!!!!! :D

BIZILL

12-12-2005, 10:33 PM

now that i'm at home i can view your setup, wing. nice lookin' sub. but i must know, do you fathom we ought to switch your couches out for my powered recliners? what would your boyfriend wish, or should you even run it by him? perhaps sneak 'em in like you did your sub and let the chips fall where they may? ;) :rolleyes:

amulford

12-12-2005, 10:45 PM

Hey, He won't have a problem with fireworks, will he? I have this little hobby... :D

Your neighbors DO like you don't they....

Skynut

12-12-2005, 11:36 PM

Skynut

12-12-2005, 11:38 PM

From one nut to another.

Got any pictures?

of the system?

oh yea and I guess one of you wouldn't hurt either.:D

BIZILL

12-13-2005, 01:26 AM

two nuts from the same pod wouldn't exactly define the situation, would it?

BIZILL

12-13-2005, 01:27 AM

No eating in the recliners. :eek:
that's no joke!!!! viva!!!

F1nut

12-13-2005, 02:07 AM

Hey, He won't have a problem with fireworks, will he? I have this little hobby... :D

Your neighbors DO like you don't they....

Hehe.......

reeltrouble1

12-13-2005, 08:31 AM

Aww, it was just a little burn mark on BDT's neighbors roof, nothing to be overly concerned about. We had the access to a hose in case the flames really got big.

Ant'ony better bring the BIG stuff, its Miami afterall.