Chevy brings back the Camaro

[petrym]

Here's a photo (http://news.yahoo.com/photo/060109/photos_bs/2006_01_09t141054_450x266_us_autos_show_camaro)

So, who's gonna get one?

[Ron-P]

Not me.

[petrym]

Me neither... not enough doors. I have too many wives and kids. :D

[Demiurge]

You sure you're not in Utah?

[PolkThug]

They need to lose that stupid grill.

[madmax]

Me neither... not enough doors. I have too many wives and kids. :D


I'm sure if they follow past designs there will be two child seats in the back. A full grown youngster certainly wouldn't fit...

I like it but see no new toys in the future.
madmax

[hoosier21]

They need to lose that stupid grill.

yea not too good looking, aftermarket will fix that

[Airplay355]

kinda looks like the caddy in The Island....minus the ugly grill and plus some brake vents

[mantis]

That means Pontiac will follow with a Firebird Trans am... Cool

Dan

[audiobliss]

For sure not my favorite concept of the new Camaro that I've seen, but livable. I'm ecstatic they're bringing it back, though! And it better keep the Camaro name!

[Schris22]

kinda looks like the caddy in The Island....minus the ugly grill and plus some brake vents

It's called the Cien

It's a nice little concept car =)

I think it kinda looks like the new charger(body mainly) with some slight modifications...

Chris

[aaharvel]

scheduled for 2007 but I doubt it. GM's about to hit bankruptcy. A new rear wheel pony car is not going to turn that company around.

[W WALDECKER]

scheduled for 2007 but I doubt it. GM's about to hit bankruptcy. A new rear wheel pony car is not going to turn that company around.If they put the Z06 motor in a Z28 version, Chevrolet wont be able to build enough of them to meet the demand. thanks....WCW III

[janmike]

My Z28 (Zapper) days are over. Had one (1979) and loved every ride.

[Tour2ma]

scheduled for 2007 but I doubt it. GM's about to hit bankruptcy. A new rear wheel pony car is not going to turn that company around.Going after the Mustang I presume...

All GM has done is chased others for decades now. When was GM's last original thought?

[MacLeod]

scheduled for 2007 but I doubt it. GM's about to hit bankruptcy. A new rear wheel pony car is not going to turn that company around.

I think it will help some. The new Mustang is selling like hotcakes and has helped Ford recoup some of its losses.

I have faith in GM. Theyve been around for far too long to go under. Theyll pull out of this eventually.

Tour has a point too. GM doesnt seem to be setting any trends lately. Chrysler started taking chances with their designs and its paid off big time. Ford finally started following suit although most of their cars are extremly boring. GM doesnt have anything other than vanilla cars. Theyre good automobiles but they just dont stir up any excitment.

As for buying a new Camaro, I can cause Im waiting for the new Challenger to come out! :D

[shack]

It will never be built. The bean counters won't ok it. GM needs mass market, high volume models to keep it out of bankruptcy. A Camaro won't make enoungh money to recover design and tooling for several years.

[cam5860]

I think if your GM you have to be creative to draw the attention back to there brand. It's a good move by GM in my opion. I think American needs to support GM and buy there products to help them get out of this bind there in.

GM is burning through there cash hoard of 16 billion. They lost some 4 billion dollars last year. If they keep that rate up they will have to file for bankruptcy by 2008. This year is going to be a very important year for GM to try and improve sales.

If Gm has to file for chapter 11 it's going to be felt widespread across american. They employ some 350,000 workers.

[RuSsMaN]

And do you know what those 350,000 workers make on average? You'd think they were saving lives.

Cool car, I'd dig a ride in it.

[cam5860]

The average pay for a GM worker is around 20 dollars a hour.

[keith allen]

Not all that impressive,they could have done better

[aaharvel]

Like Olds, GM needs to dispose of Buick, Pontiac, and GMC.
Saturn for upmarket, Caddy for luxury- Chevy for everything else.
GM isn't selling anything at a profit b/c they can't forge an identity for their products- which in turn doesn't establish a connection with buyers. That's why they go to the Toyota/Honda dealerships.

Same with Ford/Lincoln/Mercury. Ditch Mercury but keep their higher build standard for Ford autos. Then totally re-do Lincoln from the ground up. They suck right now.

Daimler/Chrysler is getting it right- thanks to heavy European influence and actual balls for original designs- but like Ford & GM, they still have a long way to go when it comes to quality control.

like i said before- the Camaro is the least of GM's problems. Build it when you get your shit straight.

[venomclan]

GM is not going into bankruptcy anytime soon. GM's cash cow is not thier car division, it is GMAc financing. GMAC accounts for 85% of GM business. They lost 5 billion, but still have 40 billion in cash reserves and their GMAC sectors. Their stock went up today. I agree they are going down and I would never buy a GM product, they need to come back smaller and make cars right. That is Toyota did and is about to overtake them.

GM had to briung back the Camaro. The main reason is that they have a factory in Canada, where all Camaros are built, that is about to end production on trucks. Due to Union contracts, they had the choice to close the plant and still pay the workers 95% of thier salaries for the next 3 years, or have them actually work and build something. Camaro is back. They also need to compete against the Mustang which is a huge success. They have nothing in their line to compete right now. The GTO is a failure. It is a Lumina with a Vette engine.

They have to nix that grill. It looks like a smiley face. Who wants a 400 HP muscle car with a smiley face?

Is it me, or does every U.S. car now come with stupid amounts of power. I mean 400 HP is nice, but since now every Chrysler product has Hemi, a lot of GM's have the same LS2 at 400 HP, it is no longer exciting.
Venom


scheduled for 2007 but I doubt it. GM's about to hit bankruptcy. A new rear wheel pony car is not going to turn that company around.

[disneyjoe7]

BTW who real care's about the 350,000 workers? In today’s world sorry to say, it's all about stock price. Being a "Blue Collar" worker myself it's a bit painful to consider but it's the fact IMHO.

[Airplay355]

I thought American cars always came with unnecessarily big engines?

[Dennis Gardner]

Make all the Camaros you want, they will never sell more Camaros than Mustangs.

Never have, never will.

[nesticle]

The grill kinda reminds me of the 69 Yenko Camaro... other than that, it really doesn't do anything for me.

[disneyjoe7]

I thought American cars always came with unnecessarily big engines?


It's the American way, have it burn it. :D

[I-SIG]

The average pay for a GM worker is around 20 dollars a hour.

Maybe, but throw in their phenomenal health plan that stays with them post-retirement and the answer is probably more like $65-70 an hour. The automaker's health plan would make Communists/Socialists/Democrats very happy.

Also, don't forget about the JOBS Bank. Paying folks 80%+ to do NADA. I think it's costing around 1/2 billion a year, according to a recent WSJ article. That ain't chump change even to GM-like entities.

Wes

[BIZILL]

state farm just totalled my '94 z-28. i'll miss my baby, but time to grow up and get me a truck.

[audiobliss]

Wha...wha....what happened??

[BIZILL]

small fender-bender. estimated repair for the front clip and fender exceeded $4000 so they wrote me a check for $5451? i couldn't even sell it for that much with my fosgate, boston acoustics and jlaudio system! i took the money and ran with it!!! now i am the proud owner of absolutely no car whatsoever. time to shop!

[audiobliss]

Wow...expensive front clip and fender!

Good luck shopping!

[BIZILL]

yeah, labor costs are a beotch. the new 'maro looks cool. i will miss the speed and power, but any home-owner NEEDS truck.

[DSkip]

They wont bring back the firebird/TA, at least not in the beginning. Ive done a lot of research on camaros and cant wait to have the new one. Its slated to come out a few years after I grad from college and thatll be the first big purchase I make.

Theyre more worried about getting the Camaro out there to compete with the Mustang and take back at least some of the muscle car market they lost out on when they discontinued it in 02. There are a lot of die hard Camaro fans such as I that would definitely buy it when it comes out. Even my dad told me he would trade in his 05 stang for a new camaro if it resembles a 69.

The Kris Horton concept was much nicer and true to the 69, but once they tone this down a little bit I think it will look much more like Horton's.

Its actually slated for '09, not '07, so they have plenty of time to get it right.