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mrbigbluelight
03-14-2006, 06:05 PM
We were at Walgreens the other day, and we passed by the DVD Bargain Bin.

Actually found some decent movies at give-away prices. We passed on them because they didn't have DTS.

We'd dig throught the pile, find a good one, and we'd wind up flipping to the back to see if it had DTS. If it did, it went in the cart. If not, back in the pile.

"Dad, this only has 5.1, not DTS. <crunch ..... back into the pile>".

For some reason, that just isn't right. 5.1 isn't good enough ? We're passing up good movies and we'll watch Jurassic Park III (not I or II, they're not in DTS) for the 110th time just because it's awesome in DTS.

......man, those dinosaurs stomping around throught the woods, though....and the Trex and Triceratops fight ! WOW !!!

Is there a cure for this sickness ?

McLoki
03-14-2006, 06:09 PM
Actually you can get I and II in DTS. (I have them.)

Keep looking.

Michael

It is the collectors edition (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004U8JU/qid=1142374580/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/104-0524987-1150311?s=dvd&v=glance&n=130)you need to look for

george daniel
03-14-2006, 06:10 PM
yep, did the same thing @ Walmart this past Sunday, I dug all the way to the bottom of the bin,,got 5,christmas shopping done early :)

Strong Bad
03-14-2006, 09:46 PM
Same here. If I know there is a DTS version, I'll pass on the DD bargain bin version.

Demiurge
03-14-2006, 09:53 PM
I do the same thing, and my friends find it ungodly annoying.

"Hey, how about this one? You said you wanted it."

"Does it have DTS?"

"No..."

"Fine, I don't want it then."

"Okay....."

The only time I buy non-DTS is if I know there isn't one and I like the movie.

mrbigbluelight
03-15-2006, 04:05 AM
I don't know how I missed that off of amazon.com.

Actually got 8 DTS DVD's in the mail last week from Amazon after doing a "superbit" and "DTS" search. Going to go upstairs and watch "Snatch" as soon as I get off the computer.

My kids'll thank you.

("Hey, guys ! We can get Jurassic I and II in DTS !!!")

:)

TroyD
03-15-2006, 04:51 AM
Nope.....if your depending on the soundtrack to make the movie, chances are, the movie sucks.

Bogart don't need no stinking DTS.

BDT

ND13
03-15-2006, 09:29 AM
Nope.....if your depending on the soundtrack to make the movie, chances are, the movie sucks.

Bogart don't need no stinking DTS.

BDT


AMEN, brudda!!!!

steveinaz
03-15-2006, 10:00 AM
I haven't gotten that fussy yet, I'm so impressed with the sound of DVD movies over crappy VHS. I'm 2-channel anyway..

Demiurge
03-15-2006, 10:10 AM
Sountracks enhance movies, that's why I am into Home Theatre. DTS is better to my ears, but some people don't prefer it because it's pumps out more bass. I won't buy a movie in DD when I can get the same movie in DTS.

mldennison
03-15-2006, 10:33 AM
i guess i am more of a music guy too. unless it is one of my favorite movies, i will go with the bargain copy with the dd soundtrack. the thing i dont like about getting the "special edition" which is usually the only one with dts is that you also are paying for that "extras" disc with all the stuff i never watch.

you gotta love the bargin bins though, there is one at my supermarket, last week i picked up some milk, eggs and the $5 "spies like us" dvd :D

reeltrouble1
03-15-2006, 11:34 AM
It Reely does not matter to me, if it has a DTS track I will use it just to use something different.

RT1

Skynut
03-15-2006, 12:07 PM
I never check. I like movies and just buy anything I think I might like.
I even buy from the $1.00 bin at target. I can get 2 Bob Hope or Abbot and Costello movies for one dollar. I think thats cool for a Sat. afternoon with the kids.

wingnut4772
03-15-2006, 12:21 PM
I love DTS but I won't pass up a movie because it does not have it.

Shizelbs
03-15-2006, 02:14 PM
A deal is a deal. dts gets top billing in my house, but my tendencies to be frugal preceed my ears. However, if a movie is available in both, I always go for dts.

daniel_paul_
03-15-2006, 05:23 PM
A deal is a deal. dts gets top billing in my house, but my tendencies to be frugal preceed my ears. However, if a movie is available in both, I always go for dts.


I'll second that

ND13
03-15-2006, 06:35 PM
I never check. I like movies and just buy anything I think I might like.
I even buy from the $1.00 bin at target. I can get 2 Bob Hope or Abbot and Costello movies for one dollar. I think thats cool for a Sat. afternoon with the kids.

That's how I turn my boy's onto the world of "The Three Stooges", "A & C", the "Marx Bros.", etc, etc. The good ole dollar bin. Every once in a whjle, you'll come across a classic.

Drumingman
03-15-2006, 06:50 PM
Everybody loves Snatch

AsSiMiLaTeD
03-15-2006, 07:31 PM
I've actually noticed that I like DD over DTS on a few titles, but prefer DTS overall if available...

MacLeod
03-15-2006, 07:55 PM
Whats the difference between DD and DTS?

Demiurge
03-15-2006, 08:18 PM
Whats the difference between DD and DTS?

It's hard to say because both companies have been sniping at eachother since 1993, which is when DTS first made it on the scene (DD in 1992).

I can hear a difference, and my ears tell me DTS is better, and since I think sound quality in a movie helps any movie -- I always buy the DTS track when it's available, but I never pass on a movie because it's not DTS.

It's really one of those things that is up for debate forever and ever, but the DTS side will win most of the time because they claim they can hear a difference, and that it's for the better. There are always some that say they can't, like one poster did above, but that's a minority figure from what I have seen with my friends and others.

MacLeod
03-15-2006, 08:22 PM
I havent done any critical listening between the two but I have noticed what seems to be a little more treble on DTS. I do know that I seem to like DTS better and use it on the movies I have with it, however I havent noticed enough of a difference to pass up on a flick just because it doesnt have it.

Demiurge
03-15-2006, 08:24 PM
I havent done any critical listening between the two but I have noticed what seems to be a little more treble on DTS. I do know that I seem to like DTS better and use it on the movies I have with it, however I havent noticed enough of a difference to pass up on a flick just because it doesnt have it.

I will never pass on a movie for not having it. The difference isn't that big, but for me it's the difference between a dish of ice cream, and one that has whip cream, chocolate sauce, and a cherry in it.

McLoki
03-15-2006, 08:49 PM
DD has about 12 to 1 compression ratio. DTS has about 3 to 1. (both are considered a lossy compression scheme. Similar to MP3's at different bit rates.)

Other than that, DTS is typically louder than DD at the same reciever setting. (I can't remember how much, but maybe 10db?)

Michael

mrbigbluelight
03-16-2006, 06:26 PM
http://www.spannerworks.net/reference/10_1a.asp


The talk of older classics has given me the need to go searching for "Forbidden Planet".

Dennis Gardner
03-16-2006, 07:12 PM
From the Spannerworks article: Under identical mastering conditions the two systems should be nearly indistinguishable from one another.


It is in the mastering/mixing that you here the differences. Just like SACD/Redbook, more bits doesn't automatically make it better. I listen to the particular format that sounds better on my system and I can assure you that DTS doesn't have a decided edge over DD. It truly does depend on the mastering of each individual disc since I never fell into the "more bass is better" trap. DTS does tend to mix about 3-5 dbs hotter in the bass, but as I stated earlier, a hotter mix is simply out of calibration.

What I do find myself doing is buying those that have both tracks so I can choose myself.

Demiurge
03-16-2006, 07:50 PM
From the Spannerworks article: Under identical mastering conditions the two systems should be nearly indistinguishable from one another.


It is in the mastering/mixing that you here the differences. Just like SACD/Redbook, more bits doesn't automatically make it better. I listen to the particular format that sounds better on my system and I can assure you that DTS doesn't have a decided edge over DD. It truly does depend on the mastering of each individual disc since I never fell into the "more bass is better" trap. DTS does tend to mix about 3-5 dbs hotter in the bass, but as I stated earlier, a hotter mix is simply out of calibration.

What I do find myself doing is buying those that have both tracks so I can choose myself.

DTS claims that they don't, so I guess this argument could go on forever.

aaharvel
03-16-2006, 11:51 PM
i heard somewhere (yeah yeah i know) that DTS runs their surrounds hot by 3db as well.

Tour2ma
03-17-2006, 09:20 PM
Depends on the movie. If it's an action flick, DTS is more impportant to me.

bluelight,
Why pay Amazon prices, as good as they are, when Columbia DVD Club is in the world?

Dennis Gardner
03-17-2006, 09:31 PM
Depends on the movie. If it's an action flick, DTS is more important to me.


I tend to agree with Bruce on the action flick thing. This is due to bass tracks for the most part with me, though not surround usage.

The best use of surround I have ever heard so far is the DD 5.1 of Darkness Falls. A lack luster horror flick in general, but worth the price of purchase just to show off the resolution of your surround setup. Sounds come from 20 feet outside the physical room in the movie and I have never figured out how they got this effect but when you hear it, your jaw will drop, guaranteed!!

Demiurge
03-17-2006, 09:46 PM
I tend to agree with Bruce on the action flick thing. This is due to bass tracks for the most part with me, though not surround usage.

The best use of surround I have ever heard so far is the DD 5.1 of Darkness Falls. A lack luster horror flick in general, but worth the price of purchase just to show off the resolution of your surround setup. Sounds come from 20 feet outside the physical room in the movie and I have never figured out how they got this effect but when you hear it, your jaw will drop, guaranteed!!

That movie had some crazy good sound in it. I didn't bring up the movie because I would be embarassed. Movie had some good potential too. That part where they show the main character as a kid in the house where his mom dies was pretty intense.

Dennis Gardner
03-17-2006, 09:48 PM
Terrible movie, best DD soundtrack to date..............

Tour2ma
03-17-2006, 10:16 PM
Have only seen it on cable, but I liked it... Now it's on the "buy list".