dts es audio help

[stonepimp]

i purchased my first dts es audio dvd last night ... got home and i can't seem to get it to play in dts ... i have a decoder built into my player and no decoder in my receiver ... i play dts movies with no problem ... i can see on my player its sending a dts signal but it doesn't show the dts symbol on my receiver when i play it ... i am selecting dts from the audio menu but ????... and of course i have tried changing the settings on my player and have referred to my manuals ... the dvd player in question is a pioneer dv-578a and my receiver is a yamaha htr5730 if this helps any? ... thanks in advance for your help... i'm just dying to hear music in dts

[Demiurge]

Your receiver needs to be able to handle it.

[stonepimp]

thanks ... i re read my dvd manual .. seems there is no digital out on some dvd audio and sacds .. new receiver suggestions??? ....LOL

[cfrizz]

How much do you want to spend? What is the rest of your system?

[nebborjk]

<thinking out loud here>
I assume that the DTS DVD-Audio is output through the 6-channel analog connectors on the back of the DVD player. If so, then all internal processing in the AVR is bypassed. The only thing to display on the AVR is "6-channel input" or "Analog input" or whatever the Yammy reads out.

Try this.
Play a movie DVD with DTS and send the signal to the AVR through the analog connection, using the on-board decoders in the DVD player. Don't send the signal via coax or TOSLINK. The DVD player will read DTS but the AVR won't.

In short, I don't think anything is wrong with either of your pieces of gear. But I could be wrong.

[bobman1235]

Yeah, what neborjk said. You need to use your analog connection. Hopefully the Yammie has 6 channel inputs, or you're basically hosed.

[danger boy]

if your DVD player has 6 analog outputs and your receiver has 6 or more analog inputs.. connect them.. to each other. and it should work then. that's the bad part of SACD's and DVD-audio. more cables needed just to listen to it. that's why both formats are dying off. and never caught on.

[stonepimp]

thanks nebborjk and danger boy ... that was my problem ... i bought the cables i needed and it works now ... sounds pretty cool but not alot of selection as far stuff i really like to warrant buying many more i think ... anyways thanks again to all

[reeltrouble1]

There are over 3000 sacd titles available and many many dvd-a. Have fun. You need that SACD/DVD-A player to really enjoy though them. Danger Boy has been exposed to the fog where he lives way to much plus he's had a very hard life. SACD is alive and well thanks to the folks who love music, Redbook is dying a slow death. Other new Technologies are close at hand. If they sound better than SACD I am all for it.

RT1

[stonepimp]

ok this may seem like a stupid question ... i have everything working but i don't understand why it works the way it does ... why are my movies able to play in dts through my optical cable and the dvd-a won't?

[danger boy]

ok this may seem like a stupid question ... i have everything working but i don't understand why it works the way it does ... why are my movies able to play in dts through my optical cable and the dvd-a won't?


that's because DVD-audio was in it's inception only designed to work with 6 analog RCA cables.. not digital cables. it was years ago the way for SACD and DVD-audio formats to keep people from making copies of them.

thats one reason both formats struggled to gain popularity.. and just never caught on.

fastforward to today. a few brands of universial players such as Denon do allow you to hook their players to their Denon receviers using just one cable..

[cfrizz]

You have to check the disk. Some DVD-A are coded for DTS & some are not. For those coded for DTS it will play in DTS & sound great. If not, then just switch the receiver over to ext & play it that way.

Eagles: Hell Freezes Over & Queen's Night at the Opera rock in DTS.

While HFO will automatically default to DTS, NATO will not. I have to go into the disk menu & manually place it to playback in DTS.

[nebborjk]

that's because DVD-audio was in it's inception only designed to work with 6 analog RCA cables.. not digital cables. it was years ago the way for SACD and DVD-audio formats to keep people from making copies of them.

thats one reason both formats struggled to gain popularity.. and just never caught on.

Bingo!!

[stonepimp]

ok, i get it ... thanks again to all ... and i have to say cfrizz i picked up that eagles disc last saturday when i went to but the cables i needed ... i am or rather was not a huge fan of the eagles but this has changed my mind alot .. i think i've listened to it twice a day since i got it ... i'm listening to it right now actually... i have never heard an eagles song anywhere other than the radio and as a youngster on lp at friends places .. i have never really been much into that type of music ... i can't think of a better introduction than this has been ... any other suggestions? i'm going to but the queen disc this afternoon but why buy one when i get two..LOL