goin from one 10" MTX Thunder 7500, XiAZ460 2/1 amp to somethin that bangs lot harder

[Moodsick]

Ok my current setup is:

Head Unit: Pioneer MOSFET 50Wx4
Door and rear speakers: MTXs i dont remember what size but they dont matter for this.
Amp: XiAZ 460watt 2/1 channel dual amp
Sub: 10" MTX Thunder 7500 enclosed in w=20.25" h=15" d=15" box

It bangs ok. But i want to transform it to be more competitive. I dont need the most blasting system in the universe, but I want something that can be felt and heard from around the corner you know? Please give me some specific items that i could look at for this. My trunk probably couldnt hold much more than a w=30" h=17.5" d=20" enclosure. Chevy Caviler 2002 LS. So yea, if someone could help me out. Oh as for my budget...i have about $650 before selling anything (i will of course sell my current enclosed MTX sub and possibly the amp and/or head unit if they arent right for the job). I could go a little over it, so if you got somethin in mind just post it and ill see what i can do if its over too much. Thx for assistance

[1996blackmax]

If you want something that will not only get loud, but also play very clean I would recommend the Soundsplinter RL-p12. These things are known for being able to do both.



www.soundsplinter.com

http://www.soundsplinter.com/rlp_premium_series_12_and_15_inch_subwoofer.html

http://www.soundsplinter.com/rlp12_premium_series_12_inch_DIY_subwoofer_informa tion.html

http://www.soundsplinter.com/images/titles/rl-p12_series_page_image.jpg

[Moodsick]

would you recommend 1 or 2? is my amp fine for this? and is there a box that would be best to put them in? like link me to one that would probably be the best to model when i look for one (or build 1)

[1996blackmax]

Contact Mike, he is the owner. Very nice guy and will be more than happy to answer any of your questions. One of those ported would get very loud, but stay very clean as well. Had I not had space issues, I would have gotten one of those in a hearbeat. My subwoofer is a very good sub, very musical, but the RL-p is another beast all together.

[Moodsick]

i decided to get 2 Infinity 1250W 12" subs and am lookin at a sony xplod 2 channel 1000 watt amp. dunno yet about the amp but subs on their way :). thinkin on building the box...sealed and separated

[1996blackmax]

Wow........

Here I go showing you some really high quality subwoofers and you pass on those for the Infinity's :confused: . I hope those work out for you.


How much did you pay for them?

[Moodsick]

65 bux a piece. i didnt get paid from one of the people that was gonna pay me. so i didnt have enough for those sick ones. :(

[DSkip]

That budget dropped fast....

[Moodsick]

he owed me 400 bux. :( and since im not the mob i cant really...go kill him now but i'd like to

[1996blackmax]

Just make sure you build the box to spec to get the most you can out of the subs :). Should definately be louder than your previous setup.

[DSkip]

What are you looking to spend on an amp?

I don't know as much about the lesser known companies as most guys on here, but I do know to stay away from sony car audio. Every friend I've had that has bought their stuff sends it back for repairs or just toss it in the trash from failure.

I use MTX amps I like their design and lasting build. I'm sure blackmax could tell you more brands to look for if you really want to do some research before you buy one.

[Moodsick]

well id like 1k watts of power or more, and i dont wanna spend over 175 ish for an amp. i dont want a crap one either, but yea i dont have but about 200 bux left now and tax will of course push the price up there. (shipping aswell if i order online.) but i could possibly get my dad to loan me some money so if you have something in mind could you post a few links to some amps that would do me good?

[1996blackmax]

There is no way you are going to get a new 1Kilowatt amp for that price, at least not one that actually makes that power. Your best bet would be to look on Ebay to find one.

Here is a link to a Kicker ZR-600. They usually put out a little over 800 watts RMS.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Kicker-ZR-600-Old-School-Amp-Made-in-USA_W0QQitemZ170011383746QQihZ007QQcategoryZ48598Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Here is an Alpine MRV-1507.

http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Alpine-MRV-1507-V12-2-1-Channel-Amplifier_W0QQitemZ180010124581QQihZ008QQcategoryZ 39733QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Now the links are just to show you what is out there. It will be up to you to check out the sellers.


Look for the older stuff from Rockford, Kicker, PPI, Alpine, and MTX. There are others, but these you could get for a good price.

[DSkip]

At any rate dont be scared to spend a little more than you want to, if it means getting a much better product. I would rather have 250 invested in an amp that will last 2+ years than 175 in an amp that will last 6 months.

Do some research before you make a purchase that really is an investment, even if it is a smaller one.

[DSkip]

Those subs do 300 watts rms, so youre looking for an amp that will put out roughly 600 watts rms. Don't get caught up in the max rating (the 1250 watts).

Here's the infinity amp that they probably had in mind for your subs...

http://www.cardomain.com/item/INFREF311A

[Moodsick]

well im getting a job in about 5 months so id like to get an amp that can push some better subs in the future. i'm kind of trying to go from small-decent-great system in 3 steps. as of now i got someone who will buy my mtx for 80. so now ive got that going, and these infinity subs coming in and im gonna use these until i get my job and save about a grand and go for some crazy subs. but id like to take care of the amp now because i want to solely focus on getting the best subs i can in the future. as for now the 65 dollar infinitys will do for replacing the mtx. so anyways when this guy buys my sub i will be able to buy probably a 250 dollar amp. i'd like to get one that could push some subs maybe like the soundsplinters, i dont know what im gonna get down the road. but i dont want to buy an amp that i would need to replace if i got better subs. so will that infinity do for some 600 watt rms subs possibly?

[DSkip]

Im almost positive that amp was made solely with those subs in mind. You can check around a lot of places. In the CA&E forum there is a posting about the polk c500.1, another good amp. If you follow their directions you can land a very nice amp for slightly more than the 250 dollars youre ready to spend. If that falls out, you can pick it up on outpost.com for 300.

With what you have in mind, itd probably be best for you to do some research, find some amps you like in your price range, and then ask some questions about the quality and the company. Since your price range isnt exactly set in stone, you can better decide for yourself how far up you are willing to go, and then follow up with your selections here.

I'm guessing the previous wiring is still installed so you wont have to factor that in to the equation?

If youre serious about the "best subs" in the future, it might be best to find out exactly what those are to you so you have an idea what to look for in an amp now. Matching the amp up with those specs so you know its a sound investment. Just remember to look at rms, and not max ratings, those will just get you in trouble.

[Moodsick]

ok so you say that i should figure out which subs i am aiming at long term NOW, and that once i have those in mind i can buy an amp that will do for these infinitys but also work for the subs i am trying to get eventually. do you think those sount splinters would be good to aim at? or is there another brand of subs that would be better

[1996blackmax]

I would not get that Infinity amp. I would take either of the two amps that I mentioned earlier, or from any of those manufacturers I mentioned in a heartbeat over that one.

As for the Soundsplinter subs, you will be very hard pressed to find anything compareable at that price range. Those subs will hang with subs that cost alot more.