Power not to subwoofer.............???HELP!!

[T_Unit616]

Most of the power is going to the 6x9 and not my subwoofer. Well, my trunk was rattling (a good thing) so I took the sub out of the trunk to see if it was the sub. I take it out, the trunk is still rattling, and even w/out Hi Frequency on music comes out of the sub. But most of the power is to the 6x9, which I don't know are hooked up. But I dunno if they are to the amp. But yeah idk what to do. Somone help! :confused:

[MacLeod]

Dude, Id like to help you but I dont have a clue what youre talking about.

Youre going to have to get a little more detailed.

[T_Unit616]

OK, most of the "pound" is going to my 6x9 speakers. The sub moves, but not a lot. And I do not have the high power frequency on, and music still comes from the sub. The trunk was rattling, and I took the sub out to see how it sounded, and the trunk still rattled. SO i looked at the speakers, and they were "pounding". When I say "pounding", I mean the bass is mostly going to the 6x9 speakers.

[MacLeod]

First off, Im not sure what you mean by "high power frequency".

Let me try this, what kind of amps are you running?

Which amp is running your 6x9's?

Which amp is running your sub?

[T_Unit616]

Ok. It is a sony XPLODE 500 watt amp.

[T_Unit616]

I only have one amp.

[T_Unit616]

I dont think any are doing the speakers. I am pretty positive they arent

[T_Unit616]

Sub is a Pioneer 12" 400 watt sub

[T_Unit616]

Is it because there r 100 watts leftover?

[wingnut4772]

Man. You are going to have 10000 posts by tomorrow.

[MacLeod]

Youre still not telling me anything. I need to know what amp you are using. Is it a 2 channel, 4 channel, mono?

My guess is that its a 2 channel and that 500 watts is max which means its really about a 200 watt amp.

If youre running the 6x9s off the left and right channels and have the sub bridged mono then your amp is probably overloading first off as I doubt its tri-way capable.

But lets assume further that it is. The amp is probably about 75x2 or 200x1 and if youre running it tri-way then youre getting about 50 to each 6x9 and 100 to the sub which is pitiful. Thats not anywhere near enough power to push a sub especially a 12 inch however 50 watts is enough to push 6x9s. So youre underpowering your sub and properly powering your 6x9's.

You need to get another 2 channel amp for your sub and preferably one in the 300-400 watt RMS and not max or peak power range.

[T_Unit616]

Ok here is some stuff. 4/3 3 Channel Power Amp 500 watt max Mofset power RCA and speaker level input 80 Hz high pass and low pass filters.....more to come

[MacLeod]

OK. Its a 4 channel.

So, do you have the rear left and right channels bridged to the sub with the low pass filter on?

Do you have the front left and right channels running the left and right 6x9's with the low pass filter off?

[T_Unit616]

Max 100 watt per channel.....Bridgeing amp- max output 250 watt??? I only get 250 of it if I bridge it???.....low pass filter(80 hz, -18 dB/oct) and high pass filter(80 hz, -12 dB/oct).....pulse power supply for stable regulated output power......Direct connection can be made with the speaker output of your car audio if it is not equipped with the line output (High-level input connection) Could it be I have the cables in the wrong places?

[brettw22]

blah blah blah
Please take this: Newbie IQ Test (http://www02.quizyourfriends.com/quizpage.php?quizname=060725142713-764518&)

[T_Unit616]

I have it bridged. I can turn low pas on and off.

[T_Unit616]

You mean the left and right speakers in back?

[T_Unit616]

Im not sure what you mean by the left and right channels. If you mean like the ones that are bridgeable then ya

[wingnut4772]

STOP! You'll only encourage him!

[T_Unit616]

Please take this: Newbie IQ Test (http://www02.quizyourfriends.com/quizpage.php?quizname=060725142713-764518&)

Oh no! Was that towards me???

[brettw22]

First things first, responding to your own posts and not able to put more than one thought in a post makes you hover around infant level of intelligence.

You ARE the one currently acting most like a moron, and therefore could probably learn a few things from the test.......

(even though it's a test to see how smart you currently are, it can train you as to the correct behavior which you seem to be unaware of)

[MacLeod]

You really need to stop with the 15 posts at a time. It makes it hard to keep up with you.

Youve lost me again on the amp specs. Find the model number and give me that so I can look it up for myself.

If it is a 4 channel amp, you will run the left 6x9 off the left front channel of the amp- the right 6x9 off the right front channel of the amp. For your sub you will take the left rear negative and hook it up to the negative of the sub and the right rear positive to the positive of the sub. (your amp may be different. Look above the speaker outputs on the amp and it should show you which to use for neg and pos if bridged)

Turn the low pass filter ON for the rear channels and leave it off on the front channels.

[T_Unit616]

http://64.4.10.250/cgi-bin/getmsg/1%2ejpg?&msg=MSG1153871530.4&start=48971&len=351800&mimepart=6&curmbox=F000000001&b=74fb8d5752be4d7a4bac84f633f7e0bb&disk=64.4.10.68_d1545&login=t_unit616&domain=hotmail%2ecom&_lang=EN&country=US&SafeRedirect=%26hm___ts%3d1153872079%26hm___ha%3df 655a1aadd
This is the Sub wiring, bridged.

[T_Unit616]

http://64.4.10.250/cgi-bin/getmsg/3%2ejpg?&msg=MSG1153871530.4&start=48971&len=351800&mimepart=8&curmbox=F000000001&b=fca10671aa0a47f09371296c842d1114&disk=64.4.10.68_d1545&login=t_unit616&domain=hotmail%2ecom&_lang=EN&country=US&SafeRedirect=%26hm___ts%3d1153872169%26hm___ha%3dd 4e8a5244063d485ed87da899a6bf27f
Here is the LPF, which is off, and set to nearly as low as possible.

[T_Unit616]

http://64.4.10.250/cgi-bin/getmsg/4%2ejpg?&msg=MSG1153871530.4&start=48971&len=351800&mimepart=9&curmbox=F000000001&b=99b653a546248819f311e545bcf80cc6&disk=64.4.10.68_d1545&login=t_unit616&domain=hotmail%2ecom&_lang=EN&country=US&SafeRedirect=%26hm___ts%3d1153872218%26hm___ha%3d0 a25bb08c0639be9ef61afa3352351e1
Here is the HPF, which is off, yet I can still hear music out of the Subwoofer. And I know, I unplugged the input for now. If I am correct they go in the rear?

[MacLeod]

OK. I cant get the first picture but the second picture tells it all.

First you want to turn the LPF (low pass filter) ON. Now the level is the gain, and youre going to want it up a lot higher. Turn it to the "noon" position ( .1 on the dial) and see how that sounds.

It also tells me the bridged diagram. Run the left rear positive to the subs positive and the right rear negative to the subs negative.

[T_Unit616]

http://64.4.10.250/cgi-bin/getmsg/5%2ejpg?&msg=MSG1153871530.4&start=48971&len=351800&mimepart=10&curmbox=F000000001&b=3dccc4d3f58aef0923e235ddc1c0fc7b&disk=64.4.10.68_d1545&login=t_unit616&domain=hotmail%2ecom&_lang=EN&country=US&SafeRedirect=%26hm___ts%3d1153872299%26hm___ha%3d5 153eec0785b1ad8064cd065917811aa Here is the front speaker output. Only have 1 sub, bridged, so nothing should be here right?

[T_Unit616]

OK. I cant get the first picture but the second picture tells it all.

First you want to turn the LPF (low pass filter) ON. Now the level is the gain, and youre going to want it up a lot higher. Turn it to the "noon" position ( .1 on the dial) and see how that sounds.

When I do that the sub pops and crackeles

[T_Unit616]

Sorry if I am spamming. Really sorry. Serial #- XM-504Z

[MacLeod]

Now I got the first picture.

Leave the HPF off for now but turn the level up on that one too. Turn it up to the .2 position for now.

[T_Unit616]

http://64.4.10.250/cgi-bin/getmsg/1%2ejpg?&msg=MSG1153871530.4&start=48971&len=351800&mimepart=6&curmbox=F000000001&b=4b20fbe6b895a2182336769ffd0cf733&disk=64.4.10.68_d1545&login=t_unit616&domain=hotmail%2ecom&_lang=EN&country=US&SafeRedirect=%26hm___ts%3d1153872485%26hm___ha%3db 40d284d99e237262b93a1394a15bd53 1st one. Sub is bridged.

http://64.4.10.250/cgi-bin/getmsg/6%2ejpg?&msg=MSG1153871530.4&start=48971&len=351800&mimepart=11&curmbox=F000000001&b=739f6c5b9fd4dbe279b5f3d256301463&disk=64.4.10.68_d1545&login=t_unit616&domain=hotmail%2ecom&_lang=EN&country=US&SafeRedirect=%26hm___ts%3d1153872522%26hm___ha%3d2 d2236dbbf59129a39e5450022897dce
Then last. Wires are in correctly. Guess I coulda put all pics in one post. Really sorry if I have been disrespectful to anybody, I have just been really pissed the aslt few days casue this car system is pissing me off.

[MacLeod]

When I do that the sub pops and crackeles

Make sure the left rear POSITVE of the amp is going to the sub's positive and the right rear NEGATIVE to the sub's negative.

[T_Unit616]

How do I know which is positive? FOr the sub? Lol and the amp?

[MacLeod]

Well, it looks like youve got it wired correctly from the amp but again, check the wiring at the sub.

One thing that did catch my eye; how big is that ground wire youve got there. It looks a lot smaller than the power wire. If it is, that could be your problem.

[MacLeod]

How do I know which is positive? FOr the sub? Lol and the amp?

The amp tells you. Look at the rear speaker outputs. You see the (L+R) above it? That tells you which to use as pos and neg if youre going to bridge.

The sub should also have its terminals marked either by a + or - or red and black.

[T_Unit616]

Well how do i know how big it is? Lemme go look at them

[MacLeod]

If the black wire is a lot smaller than the red wire....thats bad.

I cant get those stupid pictures again either. It takes me to a hotmail sign in page.

[T_Unit616]

Ground is a lil bigger

[brettw22]

Sorry if I am spamming. Really sorry. Serial #- XM-504ZNO you're not......you're keeping stupid thoughts going in 5 different forums and bombarding people with a bunch of useles information in dozens of different posts. Quit posting if you don't have any idea what the fuck you're needing to say.

[T_Unit616]

Which one do you need

[MacLeod]

Ground is a lil bigger

Then youre ok there.

Try this. Hook up the sub to ONLY the left rear outputs. In other words, left positive to sub positive and left negative to sub negative. See if the sub works. If it doesnt pop and crackle then you know the sub is ok.

[T_Unit616]

NO you're not......you're keeping stupid thoughts going in 5 different forums and bombarding people with a bunch of useles information in dozens of different posts. Quit posting if you don't have any idea what the fuck you're needing to say.

Need so more midol? Calm down.

[T_Unit616]

Ummm hold on a sec.

[T_Unit616]

Left positive and left positve rear only?

[MacLeod]

Yeah. If you dont get popping and crackling, then you know your sub is not the problem.

[T_Unit616]

like on this pic? http://64.4.10.250/cgi-bin/getmsg/1%2ejpg?&msg=MSG1153871530.4&start=48971&len=351800&mimepart=6&curmbox=F000000001&b=66981c64b59f9b6a73ae311779ab426a&disk=64.4.10.68_d1545&login=t_unit616&domain=hotmail%2ecom&_lang=EN&country=US&SafeRedirect=%26hm___ts%3d1153873609%26hm___ha%3d1 ab418f7029905b3ed798559061dfe57

[T_Unit616]

only left positive and negative???right??? You sure thats not going to blow anything?

[MacLeod]

No, thats bridging the amp..

Does the sub pop and crackle ONLY when you turn on the LPF?

[MacLeod]

Holy shit! House is on!!!

Sorry dude. Gotta have my priorities!

[T_Unit616]

No, thats bridging the amp..

Does the sub pop and crackle ONLY when you turn on the LPF?

I don't have it like that right now and it is bridged.....here it is left and right, not left and left. http://64.4.10.250/cgi-bin/getmsg/1%2ejpg?&msg=MSG1153871530.4&start=48971&len=351800&mimepart=6&curmbox=F000000001&b=d06a561a8d07a7341c5218b0111bb5c9&disk=64.4.10.68_d1545&login=t_unit616&domain=hotmail%2ecom&_lang=EN&country=US&SafeRedirect=%26hm___ts%3d1153874002%26hm___ha%3d2 7e75933fb8b6a41feaafde9e2e36e01

Well, I can turn it up if its on or off and it pops and crackles.

[T_Unit616]

Damn. Come back during commercials!

[T_Unit616]

I did left and left, it still crackled and popped. Is it the sub? I tried the other one and it did it too. I think there is jus too much power going to the sub, cause when i turn the LPF up, the sub crackels and pops more, and more, and louder, and then it goes into protection mode. Could i fool the amp and make it think I have 2 subs but really only one? Like hooking it up in the right positive and left negative or w/e? That was prolly the dumbest question anybody has ever asked in history but I am dumb and I just want this to work!....

[MacLeod]

Some more tests.

I assume the 6x9's are playing fine working off the front channels. If so, hook them up to the rear channels.

If they play fine then either your sub is fried or youve got something wired improperly.

[T_Unit616]

I think it is just wired improperley cause it does it to both subs. I am going to have it re-wired soon.

[MacLeod]

Might be a good idea.

[DSkip]

Ive been a part of this forum for 2 years and he has almost as many posts as I do in 2 days....

[brettw22]

What you're seeing is the result of not at LEAST graduating from High School. If he's still in it, he won't graduate on time.......trust.

[hrdhtdvr]

HOLY CRAP!!!! Talk about overload on posting!:D

[T_Unit616]

Lol my bad............and yes I am still in high school. Considering I A's B's and C's, I am pretty sure I am doing fine. I am pretty sure I will graduate on time...

[T_Unit616]

Alright guys, I rewired it and switched subs and it is fine. And hahahaha laugh it up I got ANOTHER cardboard box!!!! Going to make one tonight though so it should make it pound. It is all fine. Thanks for all the help guys!!

[HBombToo]

I'd rather listen to the 6X9's instead of a sub flopping around in a cardboard box. Why even waist your time???

Furthermore, if the trunk rattles when your only running 6X9's I doubt that any respectible girl would even get in that POS. We'll be watching you in the next 40 year old virgin movie at this rate!!!

HBomb

[Airplay355]

Unless he ends up on pimp my ride...

[Skynut]

Can you see xzibit opening the trunk to find 12's mounted in cardboard?


That would be worth watching.

[brettw22]

Help is on the way.......

Please post all responses to ALL of t-unit's threads HERE.... (http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42855)

[Greg Peters]

Ive been a part of this forum for 2 years and he has almost as many posts as I do in 2 days....

T_Unit should be closing in on the coveted title of "Polk Guru" pretty soon. To think this was all started without any Polk equipment at all...

[MacLeod]

Oh my God. I hope that was a type-o.

Cardboard box?!?!?!

[HBombToo]

Oh my God. I hope that was a type-o.

Cardboard box?!?!?!

That was not a typo Bro...

[T_Unit616]

told you guys i was getting a box last night....