God I love Super Audio Compact Disc

[aaharvel]

that's all..

[venomclan]

I loved Beta also. Ha Ha.
Venom

[Strong Bad]

that's all..

What??? No touching yourself in strange ways while listening?

Can't be that good if you didn't! :D

[danger boy]

that's all..

that's nice. .. thanks for sharing that. :rolleyes:

[polkatese]

my 2 cents, I have found, with a decent (high quality, high resolution, modded or otherwise) CDP, and tight amplifier, the resolution gap between Red Book/HDCD and SACD is greatly diminished. Not to dismiss SACD of course, part of it is due to the magic of recording engineers, whom, at the end still control the outcome of the resolution quality of the album.

[Danny Tse]

that's all..

So what's your latest find?

I just did the math, based upon sa-cd.net's listings.....for 2006, an average of 61 SACD titles released each month vs. 67 SACD titles released each month for 2005.

From the Special Editorial (http://www.audaud.com/article.php?ArticleID=1850) for September 2006 on Audiophile Audition....

Odd that many publications have continually promulgated the view that there have been only a few releases in the audio-only SACD format so they consider it a failure. The fact is that there are many thousands of SACDs available - though many may have to be ordered from Europe or Asia because they are not distributed in North America. And certainly not in brick & mortar stores. In fact, we are currently struggling at Audiophile Audition to get the stacks of recent multichannel SACDs reviewed which have been provided to us!

[madmax]

It will never beat 8 track... :)
madmax

[aaharvel]

sorry, spur of the moment post. I was listening to some new Telarc discs last night and was very impressed. They belonged to a friend, not mine unfortunately. Seems like the sound quality is improving as time goes by, maybe because Sony/Phillips have found a cheaper yet more authentic way of preserving the original DSD sound.

[Danny Tse]

Andrew,

I think you're right about lower production cost of SACD. Have you seen this article?

http://www.sa-cd.net/shownews/41

Recently, Chesky Records announced it will go single-inventory hybrid SACD in 2007. No more regular CDs from Chesky next year. Chesky also just started releasing a new series of jazz SACD recorded in New York and they are supposedly to be priced "aggressively". I also noticed Telarc just released a new SACD (Randy Brecker) as a single-inventory hybrid SACD and its MSRP is about 25% less than Telarc's other SACD titles.

I also think SACD is picking up some steam....Universal Music has decided to distribute all 5 SACD titles by the Moody Blues as domestic releases. I think Universal noticed a lot of people here in the States were ordering the SACDs from overseas.

And for those who thinks Sony has abandoned SACD....less than a month ago, US Sony released a single-inventory hybrid SACD from a 14 year old classical composer. And in early October, Sony will release a new soundtrack album on SACD by Danny Elfman. While the intro of the SACD-capable Sony PlayStation 3 may be delayed, Sony has announced a new audio-only SACD/CD player to be introduced in November....

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20060905/sony02.jpg

Marantz also just released a US$6,200 "statement" SACD player.

And even single-layer SACD is making a return....Top Music just announced a new "break-in" disc on single-layer SACD. On the front, it has a logo saying it's part of the "Pure SACD Series", which may mean more single-layer titles may be coming.

Did you get the Mo-Fi Little Richard SACD?

[aaharvel]

XA1200.. damn that thing looks nice!

Yeah, i read that article not too long ago.. that's what caused my 2nd wind with SACD so to speak.. and started to listen to more and more discs from genres I usually don't associate with too often.. yesterday my enthusiasm came to a head and I was so impressed i just wanted to post, too bad it wasn't a very useful post. :o

[Danny Tse]

NAD also just announced its second universal player, the T585 (http://nadelectronics.com/products/dvd-players/T585-Universal-DVD-Player)

http://nadelectronics.com/img/resampled/060601103841-430-T585_3_4.jpg

[Mick88]

.........and the Depeche Mode series continues in October with three more releases. I love SACD. I have 100 titles now. Wish more mainstream non jazz and classical were available.

MW
http://remasters.depechemode.com/

[Meeks32]

Will SACD ever make its way into car audio? I used to see DVD-audio players a year or so ago & even those seem to be disapearing now.

[F1nut]

I'm glad you started this thread, Andrew. SACD still needs to be "talked up" as there are far too many folks whom remain clueless as to the superior sound quality.

My only beef is the selection, hopefully some record company executives will read this. We need more rock and blues!!!

[Danny Tse]

Possible SACD of new Elton John album "Captain & The Kid".....new 5.1 surround sound mix being prepared as I type....

http://www.eltonjohn.com/catk/msinterview.asp

[reeltrouble1]

Within the routine mundane background sounds need to multi-task pepsi generation music push towards whole house servers SACD seems to have found its niche. I would not mind some more rock, I just think SACD needs really good music to shine. Unlike most I am just willing to pay more for superior software when combined with superior recording. I am also willing to sit down and just listen to music for hours without feeling like I should be doing something else around the house. Dont get me wrong I will one day have a server of some sort but after all the Kinks get worked out, speaking of the Kinks their SACD's are quite nice, a great chord crutching band with great lyrics.

I did just purchase the Janos Starkos cello SACD with the LSO and it is excellent. I believe I have all of the current EJ's and there is not a dog in the bunch. Tumbleweed is one of my favorites.

RT1

[Danny Tse]

SACD of Moody Blues' "Seventh Sojourn" and "Every Good Boy Deserves Favour" coming early April. Don't forget Genesis SACD reissues come out at end of March.

SACD of Rickie Lee Jones' new album is coming as well, plus SACD of Enigma's current album.

[steveinaz]

I would really like to check it out, but not until the inventory gets way bigger.

[ninerbj]

I too love the SACD format! I do however have a couple questions...
1. Does anyone else have bass issues with SACD's? What did you do to curb this issue?
2. Last year about this time (could have been in late 2005 as well) there were rumors of Pink Floyd's Wish You Were Here. Anyone heard anything lately?

[Lsi9]

I am wondering what format do you guys mainly listen with SACD, Multichannel or 2 channel?
I am not interested in multichannel... isn't this really the point with SACD, when two channel SACD isn't really an improvement over redbook?

[schwarcw]

... isn't this really the point with SACD, when two channel SACD isn't really an improvement over redbook?

IMO SACD two channel is a nice improvement over redbook two channel. More detailed. I listen to mostly two channel, but there are some disks that do a good job with multi channel. I like a little of the rear channel to add some "dimension" to the music. It makes you feel like your in a big auditorium. Multi-channel live music brings the audience into the rear channel so it's like your at a concert.

[cfrizz]

I listen in multichannel.

[Refefer]

I don't really care about multichannel.

But I can't wait until my oppo comes in so I can start rocking it with the SACDs. I've got my first couple already in sight.

I love the fact that more people are using hybrids with regulars on one side and SACDs on the other. I think that's a brilliant standard to goto to give us what we want to hear, and the boombox generation what they want to hear.

[TroyD]

I would tend to agree with F1's assessment, however, there is a lot of good material out there that, frankly, was so poorly recorded in the first place that high resolution is a waste of time.

Audiophilia, for better or worse, has predominantly resdided in classical and to a lesser extent, jazz. There are some outstanding SACD's in those genres. In fact, I think that many of the Mercury Living Presence SACD's are better than the LP's.

BDT

[TroyD]

I listen in multichannel.

blasphemy ;)

BDT

[dorokusai]

I don't think 3/4 of the people in here would hear the difference between Steely Dan - Gaucho on DVD-A or SACD....I know I don't. I guess I just need to sit and think more, as I'm bound to hear something eventually.

Selection does indeed suck but Sony doomed that whole process from its inception. Every now and then we get a golden nugget of a SACD :)

[hearingimpared]

I'm glad you started this thread, Andrew. SACD still needs to be "talked up" as there are far too many folks whom remain clueless as to the superior sound quality.

My only beef is the selection, hopefully some record company executives will read this. We need more rock and blues!!!

I need to hear yours!!!

[strider]

I haven't found anything that I cared to listen to in multi channel. It feels unnatural to me to be sitting on the stage, facing the musicians, but with instruments coming from behind as well. Could just be the way the albums I've heard are mixed. My favorite so far is Bela Fleck- Drive. MFSL release, great musicians, material, recording.

[ben62670]

I too love the SACD format! I do however have a couple questions...
1. Does anyone else have bass issues with SACD's? What did you do to curb this issue?


I have Stings Brand New Day SACD, and the bass on the first track will rip up nearly any speaker if played at high volume. It is a very well recorded album minus the sub audio bass blast in the very beginning. The dynamics and clarity are very detailed. I also personally like to set my SACD player to 2 channel for most audio except concerts. If I have company I set it to DTS to show off the technology. There are times when you are playing a 5.1 SACD that you will hear something like voices or a "ding" that will make you look around to see who slipped in while you were listening. When you are ready to listen to music try setting it back to 2 Ch.

Enjoy
Ben

[steveinaz]

Would the Denon DVD-2910 be fairly respectable at SACD reproduction?

[hearingimpared]

Okay now I am really confused. I thought SACD was always multichannel. I've read here
that it can be switched to 2 ch???? Can someone clarify that for me please? I have an SACD player, it may not be the best but if it can be played in 2 ch, I would love to try it out.

[steveinaz]

Sure, SACD can be played in 2-channel mode.

[shack]

I NEVER listen to SACD in multichannel ...ok almost never...every now and again I will listen to DSOTM in multichannel on my HT rig...but ususually I only play SACD on the 2 channel rig.

[SLOCOOKN]

yep 2 channel for sure!

[BottomFeeder]

Ok, go easy on me; remember, I'm a newbie... I've heard that SACD's can be played on regular, non SACD players, and that they'll sound much better than the original recordings, even though a SACD player is not being used. True?

[ben62670]

Yep multi channel SACD is like having sex with your sister... Its still sex.. But it just ain't right.
The 2 channel option is in the setup menu. Mine Has to be stopped to change the setting. No adjustment on the fly.

[ben62670]

Ok, go easy on me; remember, I'm a newbie... I've heard that SACD's can be played on regular, non SACD players, and that they'll sound much better than the original recordings, even though a SACD player is not being used. True?

Some SACDs are hybrids that can be palyed on both. The multi channel is only available on SACD players.
Enjoy

[SLOCOOKN]

Ok, go easy on me; remember, I'm a newbie... I've heard that SACD's can be played on regular, non SACD players, and that they'll sound much better than the original recordings, even though a SACD player is not being used. True?
SACD can only be played on a SACD player. It will not function on a "regular" player UNLESS it is a HYbrid. A Hybrid contains a "regular" cd format and SACD format.

[strider]

Some hybrid releases may sound better then the redbook version because they were remastered when making the jump to SACD, I believe.

[hearingimpared]

Ok, I currently have my Oppo 970 HD's digital output going to my Timbre DAC then of course to my preamp to play CDs. According to what I am reading here, I should be able to take the analog outputs of the 970 and go directly to my preamp and then I can play SACD, correct???

I'm not tauting the quality of the Oppo here just the functionality.

[Dennis Gardner]

SACD requires analog, it doesn't decode through the digital outputs.

[Danny Tse]

Ok, I currently have my Oppo 970 HD's digital output going to my Timbre DAC then of course to my preamp to play CDs. According to what I am reading here, I should be able to take the analog outputs of the 970 and go directly to my preamp and then I can play SACD, correct???

I'm not tauting the quality of the Oppo here just the functionality.

You are correct with that setup....in fact, that can be done with any CD/SACD player.

However, on the 970, you can also transmit the SACD datastream using the HDMI digital output. The 970 will do a DSD>>>88.2 PCM conversion and transmit the downconverted bitstream using the HDMI output. For those who think this is nuts, the 970 does the same conversion when its analog outputs are used. This was confirmed by an email from Oppo. Given the positive response to the sound quality of this play, whether by professional writers or actual owners, I think the conversion may be very transparent. On the other hand, if you're a purist....

The raw DSD bitstream can be transmitted, without any conversion, using HDMI v1.2, and soon, HDMI v1.3. Denon has already announced its line of AV receivers will be compatible to HDMI v1.3.

[hearingimpared]

You are correct with that setup....in fact, that can be done with any CD/SACD player.

However, on the 970, you can also transmit the SACD datastream using the HDMI digital output. The 970 will do a DSD>>>88.2 PCM conversion and transmit the downconverted bitstream using the HDMI output. For those who think this is nuts, the 970 does the same conversion when its analog outputs are used. This was confirmed by an email from Oppo. Given the positive response to the sound quality of this play, whether by professional writers or actual owners, I think the conversion may be very transparent. On the other hand, if you're a purist....

The raw DSD bitstream can be transmitted, without any conversion, using HDMI v1.2, and soon, HDMI v1.3. Denon has already announced its line of AV receivers will be compatible to HDMI v1.3.

Yeah BABY!!! I've been wanting to own an SACD and get some software but needed to allocate funds. I know this SACD is not going to have the quality of let's say Jesse's or Rich's but what the hell this SACD is better than no SACD, no?

Another question; I'm thinking there is a DAC involved with the SACD, I know my Timbre DAC will not work with the SACD output of the Oppo but doesn't the SACD use some kind of DAC?

EDIT: I've been told that SACD sounds better than vinyl, I hope that doesn't mean I have to have a high end SACD for this to be true.

[Danny Tse]

Yeah BABY!!! I've been wanting to own an SACD and get some software but needed to allocate funds. I know this SACD is not going to have the quality of let's say Jesse's or Rich's but what the hell this SACD is better than no SACD, no?

Another question; I'm thinking there is a DAC involved with the SACD, I know my Timbre DAC will not work with the SACD output of the Oppo but doesn't the SACD use some kind of DAC?

EDIT: I've been told that SACD sounds better than vinyl, I hope that doesn't mean I have to have a high end SACD for this to be true.

Like any format, there're good and bad recordings. SACD doesn't guarantee excellent sound quality, but it does have the potential of sounding better than regular CD.

Correct me if I am incorrect, SACDs are decoded by a dedicated DSD>>>analog DAC within the player. This type of DAC can be found in inexpensive SACD players such as the $150 Sony SCD-CE595 5 disc changer. On the other hand, even mega $$$ SACD players from Accuphase does the DSD>>>PCM conversion. I used to be a "purist" about this type of things, but if it sounds good....why worry?

I have an inexpensive (got it for $180.00 three years ago) Sony DVP-NS500V DVD/SACD/CD player that sounds really good. You just need to get the good sounding SACD titles. I was listening to the SACD of Steely Dan's "Gaucho" and it was good.....real good. It's hard to describe in words. There's just "more" there, and it was really smooth.

[Toxis]

I absolutely love my 2910... mmmmmm

[Danny Tse]

I don't think this bit of info belong here, but since this thread is about SACD....

Sony to launch 3 SACD players for cars (note SACD logo on upper left hand side of deck)

http://www.lydogbilde.no/getfile.php/383181.919.ytfrcvyecs/SonySACD_bil.jpg

[F1nut]

^^^About damn time!!!^^^

[F1nut]

Correct me if I am incorrect, SACDs are decoded by a dedicated DSD>>>analog DAC within the player.

That is correct.

[F1nut]

EDIT: I've been told that SACD sounds better than vinyl, I hope that doesn't mean I have to have a high end SACD for this to be true.

It helps, a lot.

[SCompRacer]

I've been told that SACD sounds better than vinyl, I hope that doesn't mean I have to have a high end SACD for this to be true.

I go along with Jesse's comment. I also get superb CD playback. You have that covered with a great DAC, I have a stand alone player. Make your choice, spend your money....

[TroyD]

EDIT: I've been told that SACD sounds better than vinyl, I hope that doesn't mean I have to have a high end SACD for this to be true.

It's like anything else. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and the better your gear, the better it sounds. Given my choice of, say, a 100 universal player and my Jolida CD player? I'll take the Jolida.

I've got decent SACD playback and I enjoy it. It's different from vinyl to be sure. However cheap SACD playback is just as bad as cheap CD playback.

BDT

[hearingimpared]

However cheap SACD playback is just as bad as cheap CD playback.

BDT

Yep that is what I have to keep in mind when I buy some SACDs and play them on the Oppo if there is inconsistancy.

Thanks for all the infor guys.:)

[reeltrouble1]

As a card carrying two-channel geek, I have done my share of multi-blasting, well, I apologize, listen however you like, its all good. HT and surround sound have brought a number of folks back into audio or started them off in the hobby, this resurgence is a good thing in the big picture.

I enjoy my SACD's because the sounds I hear reproduced from these discs are GREAT!! +1 on the recording comments.

RT1

[shack]

I've got decent SACD playback and I enjoy it. It's different from vinyl to be sure. However cheap SACD playback is just as bad as cheap CD playback.

I really don't agree with this. The Sony SCD-CE595 can be had for around $140 and does an excellent job with SACD and only average for redbook. In my experience I have yet to hear a SACD player that I would consider bad when playing SACD (it doesn't mean they don't exist). Typically even inexpensive multi-format players do a pretty good job with the high rez tracks. There are bad SACD recordings that sound bad regardless of the machine. Some SACD players are better than others and perform at a higher level as price increases, but in my experience and in many of the "professional" reviews I've read, the difference between an inexpensive SACD player and a high end SACD player is not as drastic/noticable as with redbook.

[snow]

I'm glad you started this thread, Andrew. SACD still needs to be "talked up" as there are far too many folks whom remain clueless as to the superior sound quality.

My only beef is the selection, hopefully some record company executives will read this. We need more rock and blues!!! agreed on both counts. REGARDS SNOW

[steveinaz]

Ok, go easy on me; remember, I'm a newbie... I've heard that SACD's can be played on regular, non SACD players, and that they'll sound much better than the original recordings, even though a SACD player is not being used. True?

You're thinking of "HDCD"

[reeltrouble1]

Snow,

Yes, some SACD called "hybrid" can be played on a non-sacd player and yes, I have seen reviews and heard and enjoyed this redbook layer of the disc played on an non-sacd machine.

The HDCD Steve referred to is something different and these disc offer excellent recordings as well and can be played on any player.

RT1

[snow]

Snow,

Yes, some SACD called "hybrid" can be played on a non-sacd player and yes, I have seen reviews and heard and enjoyed this redbook layer of the disc played on an non-sacd machine.

The HDCD Steve referred to is something different and these disc offer excellent recordings as well and can be played on any player.

RT1very few players can actually play (hdcd) even though they will play on all cd players the hdcd track is diffrent than the cd side you will hear if played on a hdcd capable player. btw the oppo mentioned earlier has true hdcd capability. and to hearing impaired your oppo will play sacds through the analog outs and it sounds great in 2 channel i know because thats how i listen to mine through my lexicon mc-1 through the 2nd room inputs so there is no analog to digital to analog conversion. simply beautiful analog sound. btw in case anyone wants to know the oppo 981 will play both sacd and dvd audio through the hdmi output. the 970 will not because it has an 1.1 hdmi output versus 1.3 for the 981. REGARDS SNOW

[TroyD]

I really don't agree with this. The Sony SCD-CE595 can be had for around $140 and does an excellent job with SACD and only average for redbook. In my experience I have yet to hear a SACD player that I would consider bad when playing SACD (it doesn't mean they don't exist). Typically even inexpensive multi-format players do a pretty good job with the high rez tracks. There are bad SACD recordings that sound bad regardless of the machine. Some SACD players are better than others and perform at a higher level as price increases, but in my experience and in many of the "professional" reviews I've read, the difference between an inexpensive SACD player and a high end SACD player is not as drastic/noticable as with redbook.

How dare you disagree with me?

IMHO, the Sony SACD players, even the inexpensive ones are VERY good sounding units. I had a cheapie Pioneer and and other one that I forget...they were terrible.

BDT

[reeltrouble1]

I now officially agree to agree even if we disagree about the agreed. Agreed!

Oh, oh, Oh, Listen to the music
All the time.........


RT1

[shack]

How dare you disagree with me?

IMHO, the Sony SACD players, even the inexpensive ones are VERY good sounding units. I had a cheapie Pioneer and and other one that I forget...they were terrible.

BDT

Ok, I'll agree with the Sony statement. For all the crap they get over various stuff, they generally get SACD right.

[cfrizz]

I think the technology has progressed enough that if you buy any cheap but well known name brand universal or separate player you will get very decent sound.

The biggest factor to the quality of the sound is now really the discs. If the disc is poorly done it will sound like crap on a cheap & an expensive machine.

I know that some of you seem to have a problem with remastered music because you think it's too loud. Well I'll take that loud but cleaned up, cleared up remaster over any copy, of a copy, of a copy, of a copy, of a copy, of an original disc any day of the week & just turn the volume down!
The difference is just astounding!

Now as you get better equipment, the differences will become more noticable.

[Danny Tse]

I will now further confuse the matter....

On certain hybrid SACDs (ones with the CD layer), the CD layer is also HDCD-encoded. As I understand it, HDCD-capable CD players generally don't let you turn on/off the HDCD feature, right?

[snow]

I will now further confuse the matter....

On certain hybrid SACDs (ones with the CD layer), the CD layer is also HDCD-encoded. As I understand it, HDCD-capable CD players generally don't let you turn on/off the HDCD feature, right? i believe in most hdcd capable players it automatically sees the hdcd layer and plays it versus the cd layer. when you play a hybrid disc it will give you the option of playing either the sacd or cd layer, and if your player has hdcd capability it chooses the hdcd when you select cd. REGARDS SNOW

[Danny Tse]

i believe in most hdcd capable players it automatically sees the hdcd layer and plays it versus the cd layer. when you play a hybrid disc it will give you the option of playing either the sacd or cd layer, and if your player has hdcd capability it chooses the hdcd when you select cd. REGARDS SNOW

Thanks, Snow.

BTW, here's the just-published article at highfidelityreview.com on the upcoming Sony car SACD players....

http://www.highfidelityreview.com/news/news.asp?newsnumber=10972765

[reeltrouble1]

I will now further confuse the matter....

On certain hybrid SACDs (ones with the CD layer), the CD layer is also HDCD-encoded. As I understand it, HDCD-capable CD players generally don't let you turn on/off the HDCD feature, right?

Don't forget to mention the XRCD format, which plays, well on pretty much everything.

Of course I have digital vinyl....WTF??????? wa................

Is it any wonder......Its a ball of confusion.........

RT1

[Danny Tse]

Don't forget to mention the XRCD format, which plays, well on pretty much everything.

Is it any wonder......Its a ball of confusion.........

XRCD is just a well-mastered CD....it doesn't use any decoding. And yes, XRCD on the CD layer of a hybrid SACD was proposed....and shot down by JVC, the company behind XRCD.

[ninerbj]

BUT..........
Does anyone else have bass issues when playing muti-channel SACD's????

[hearingimpared]

XRCD is just a well-mastered CD....it doesn't use any decoding. And yes, XRCD on the CD layer of a hybrid SACD was proposed....and shot down by JVC, the company behind XRCD.


Who's on first . . .

-----What's on second . . .

---------I dunno who's on third . . .

[aaharvel]

the biggest improvement with my new Denon over the Sony i used to have is not necessarily the fidelity, but the bass management.

Bass management is the only weakness in SACD that I can think of. Other than that (oh and the marketing), it's perfect.

[hearingimpared]

the biggest improvement with my new Denon over the Sony i used to have is not necessarily the fidelity, but the bass management.

Bass management is the only weakness in SACD that I can think of. Other than that (oh and the marketing), it's perfect.

Are you speaking of the speed of the bass or the tightness or depth???

[aaharvel]

i'm refering to the lack of flexibility of the player itself. When you switch your speakers to "small" in the players internal system (as required when using the analog outputs) as my speakers obviously are, the player cuts off the bass at 100hz (puke). It's not adjustable, as I prefer a 60hz. cutoff for both movies and especially music.

IOW, the bass sounds terrible.

[hearingimpared]

Okay now that it has been established that SACD is (opinions rendered) better than vinyl, can I get some software suggestions please?

[aaharvel]

Norah Jones - Come Away W/Me (Only the multi-channel side is SACD quality, and you'll have to bump up the bass +10db. due to a recording error.)
Miles Davis - K.O.B.
Jerry Goldsmith - Film Scores
Pink Floyd - D.S.O.T.M.
John Mayer - Heavier Things
Sheryl Crowe - The Globe Sessions
Nickel Creek - Self Titled & This Side
Anything Sarah Brightman

just to name a few..

[TroyD]

I wouldn't say that SACD is 'better' than vinyl. Just different.

I've never listened to SACD in multichannel and I never will.

The Norah Jones SACD is a joke. The vinyl is MUCH better.

BDT

[aaharvel]

then today i'm buying the Vinyl for C.A.W.M. Thanks Troy.

[strider]

Okay now that it has been established that SACD is (opinions rendered) better than vinyl, can I get some software suggestions please?


Allman Brothers- At Fillmore East
Derek and the Dominos- Layla
Bela Fleck- Drive :D
Beck- Sea Change
Charles Mingus- Ah Em

I've heard that Chris Thile's (of Nickel Creek) solo release is pretty good as well.

[TroyD]

then today i'm buying the Vinyl for C.A.W.M. Thanks Troy.


If you do it, get the 200gm pressing.

BDT

[pblanc]

I was concerned that SACD was a dying organism. Is it gaining market share? I agree that SACD is how CD "should be" and that a well recorded and mastered SACD is on par with a high grade vinyl analog source. Maybe even better, since the dynamic range and S/N ratio are better. I think overall I still generally prefer the "warmth" of vinyl but I suspect SACD has the potential to be more accurate.

[shack]

Dire Straits - Brothers in Arms
Allman Brothers - Eat A Peach
Jeff Beck - Blow By Blow
Alison Krauss & Union Station - Live
Deep Purple - Machine Head
Aerosmith - Toys In The Atic
Albert King and Stevie Ray Vaughan - In Session

[aaharvel]

If you do it, get the 200gm pressing.

BDT

thanks Troy, i'm looking into it. But what is 200gm?

[snow]

eagles farewell tour. pink floyd darkside of the moon. allison kraus and union station live. all are exceptional recordings on sacd. REGARDS SNOW

[cfrizz]

Snow, the Eagles have never had anything released on SACD only on DVD-A. And the Farewell Tour is a DVD-V not a DVD-A.

Believe me, if they ever release that disc on DVD-A I will be all over it like white on rice. I wish they would release it, it is an outstanding concert!

[TroyD]

200gm is the weight of the vinyl. It's of better quality than the standard 150gm pressing.

Worth the extra coin.

BDT

[hearingimpared]

Norah Jones - Come Away W/Me (Only the multi-channel side is SACD quality, and you'll have to bump up the bass +10db. due to a recording error.)
Miles Davis - K.O.B.
Jerry Goldsmith - Film Scores
Pink Floyd - D.S.O.T.M.
John Mayer - Heavier Things
Sheryl Crowe - The Globe Sessions
Nickel Creek - Self Titled & This Side
Anything Sarah Brightman

just to name a few..


Thanks to everyone for the suggestions . . . hmmm now how to sneak some funds to get an SACD collection going . . .

[hearingimpared]

then today i'm buying the Vinyl for C.A.W.M. Thanks Troy.

What's C.A.W.M. ???

[reeltrouble1]

hmmm........Keb Mo and Keb Mo and did I mention Keb Mo, I especially enjoy "Just Like You" by well, Keb Mo.

RT1

[hearingimpared]

Wow, I've been checking out SACD prices on a whole lot of websites. . . they are not inexpensive.

[aaharvel]

200gm is the weight of the vinyl. It's of better quality than the standard 150gm pressing.

Worth the extra coin.

BDT

thankya thankya.

Hearing, it's Come Away With Me (Norah Jones) I was too lazy to spell it out.

[hearingimpared]

Sorry I didn't have my internet acronym decoder handy.:p

[Danny Tse]

Go to yourmusic.com and check out their limited selection (Dylan, Clapton, Carpenters, etc.) at $6.99/each shipped.

If you have a local Best Buy and they are still carrying SACDs, the discs should be under $14.99/each. Last Friday, I came across a stack of SACD to Sam Cooke's "Portrait of a Legend" (an out-of-print SACD title) for $9.99/each at my local Best Buy....so the deals are out there.

BTW, have you check out sa-cd.net (http://www.sa-cd.net) for a listing of available SACD titles? For your information, the SACDs of Sam Cooke, the Police, Peter Gabriel, Bob Dylan, Rolling Stones, and any Sony single-layer titles are considered out-of-print. So get them if you find them.

[hearingimpared]

Go to yourmusic.com and check out their limited selection (Dylan, Clapton, Carpenters, etc.) at $6.99/each shipped.

If you have a local Best Buy and they are still carrying SACDs, the discs should be under $14.99/each. Last Friday, I came across a stack of SACD to Sam Cooke's "Portrait of a Legend" (an out-of-print SACD title) for $9.99/each at my local Best Buy....so the deals are out there.

BTW, have you check out sa-cd.net (http://www.sa-cd.net) for a listing of available SACD titles? For your information, the SACDs of Sam Cooke, the Police, Peter Gabriel, Bob Dylan, Rolling Stones, and any Sony single-layer titles are considered out-of-print. So get them if you find them.

Thanks Danny:)

[Danny Tse]

Thanks Danny:)

No problem. If you haven't done so, please sign the Save the SACD petition (http://www.petitiononline.com/SACD/petition.html). Tonight, there're 2,096 signatures on the petition as SACD crosses the 4,300 title mark at sa-cd.net.

[snow]

Snow, the Eagles have never had anything released on SACD only on DVD-A. And the Farewell Tour is a DVD-V not a DVD-A.

Believe me, if they ever release that disc on DVD-A I will be all over it like white on rice. I wish they would release it, it is an outstanding concert! oops you are correct.:eek:
i was sure i had seen it one day when i was doing a search on ebay. but i think it was an hd dvd instead. there is one fellow claiming to be selling a dvd-a of that album on ebay but i think he is confused. here is the link.http://cgi.ebay.com/Eagles-Farewell-1-Tour-Live-from-Melbourne-NEW_W0QQitemZ150082626476QQihZ005QQcategoryZ46353Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem the regular dvd with DTS rocks though. :) ok heres another great album to replace it. roger waters live. regards snow

[hearingimpared]

No problem. If you haven't done so, please sign the Save the SACD petition (http://www.petitiononline.com/SACD/petition.html). Tonight, there're 2,096 signatures on the petition as SACD crosses the 4,300 title mark at sa-cd.net.

Done

[cfrizz]

:D YUP and proud of it too!:p :D

blasphemy ;)

BDT

[cfrizz]

Yup the guy is real confused, that's the box for the DVD-V! LOL.:D

Rocks is right, it's my favorite DVD.

oops you are correct.:eek:
i was sure i had seen it one day when i was doing a search on ebay. but i think it was an hd dvd instead. there is one fellow claiming to be selling a dvd-a of that album on ebay but i think he is confused. here is the link.http://cgi.ebay.com/Eagles-Farewell-1-Tour-Live-from-Melbourne-NEW_W0QQitemZ150082626476QQihZ005QQcategoryZ46353Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem the regular dvd with DTS rocks though. :) ok heres another great album to replace it. roger waters live. regards snow

[Danny Tse]

The Pixies' "Surfa Rosa" is coming to Mobile Fidelity SACD in March.

[F1nut]

That is worth noting, Danny. Maybe Warner has seen the light.

Also of note, Every Good Boy Deserves Favour and Seventh Sojourn will be released on SACD in March. These will be imports, but I'm sure like the first 5, they will be released as US issues a little later down the road.

[SLOCOOKN]

Go to yourmusic.com and check out their limited selection (Dylan, Clapton, Carpenters, etc.) at $6.99/each shipped.

If you have a local Best Buy and they are still carrying SACDs, the discs should be under $14.99/each. Last Friday, I came across a stack of SACD to Sam Cooke's "Portrait of a Legend" (an out-of-print SACD title) for $9.99/each at my local Best Buy....so the deals are out there.

BTW, have you check out sa-cd.net (http://www.sa-cd.net) for a listing of available SACD titles? For your information, the SACDs of Sam Cooke, the Police, Peter Gabriel, Bob Dylan, Rolling Stones, and any Sony single-layer titles are considered out-of-print. So get them if you find them.

How do you find SACD on yourmusic?

[hearingimpared]

How do you find SACD on yourmusic?


I've had the same problem.

[snow]

I've had the same problem. you need to select album title in the search box. then in the for box type in sacd then hit go. REGARDS SNOW

[SLOCOOKN]

you need to select album title in the search box. then in the for box type in sacd then hit go. REGARDS SNOW

Yep!...Thanks!

[hearingimpared]

you need to select album title in the search box. then in the for box type in sacd then hit go. REGARDS SNOW

Yep that works, I'm such a dope!:o

[SLOCOOKN]

Not much of a selection at all on yourmusic though:(

[Danny Tse]

That is worth noting, Danny. Maybe Warner has seen the light.

Also of note, Every Good Boy Deserves Favour and Seventh Sojourn will be released on SACD in March. These will be imports, but I'm sure like the first 5, they will be released as US issues a little later down the road.

I think the Pixies was signed to 4AD of the UK and Warner distributed their albums in the US. Mobile Fidelity may just license the albums for reissues on SACD. That's just a guess.

Also in late March/early April 2007, and as previously mentioned, the first batch of Genesis SACDs will be released. Here's a track listing of the SACDs, DVDs, and bonus SACD (http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=103367) as posted on stevehoffman.tv.

You can also search ebay for SACDs. There are some amazing titles released around the world. A couple of days ago, I received the new SACD of Petula Clark. And today, I picked a hybrid SACD of Peter Gabriel's "Plays Live Highlight" (the domestic US SACD is a single-layer disc)

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e83/unixsystem/SACD/SAGabriel_2.jpg

[schwarcw]

Nice grab Danny! I'm jonesin' some of those Genesis releases!

[Danny Tse]

Nice grab Danny! I'm jonesin' some of those Genesis releases!

Thanks Carl. The Peter Gabriel SACD titles are considered out-of-print and I just happened to come upon this SACD on ebay Hong Kong for $16.99. It's about a couple of dollars more than the domestic single-layer version, but I figure it's worth it for backward compatibility.

I am also looking forward to the Genesis SACDs. Kinda expensive but I read that the remixes are awesome.

[hearingimpared]

Here is a whole slew of Genisis SACDs from Acoustic Sounds.

Genisis SACDs (http://store.acousticsounds.com/search_results.cfm?adv=true%20&searchtext=genesis&field=All%20&status=Pre%20Order%20&category=Any&keywords=NL012607)

[strider]

I've been listening to Diana Krall Love Scenes a bunch lately. Very well done recording of some enjoyable material, IMO.

[AndyGwis]

I love SACD as well, but have a lot of problems with bass management. My Pioneer DV-59avi doesn't seem to like putting out ANY bass when using the analogue outs. So, I just end up using Coax digital out and letting the HK 635do all the thinking.

Anyone have ideas on BM using 59avi?

[chrisC]

Not to wander off the point but I am interested in what people think about the DualDisc format. Any sound differences over SACD or DVD-Audio? I own Bruce Springsteen's "Devils and Dust" on this format and thought it sounded better but maybe I am just reading into it too much.

[danger boy]

this is just my opinion.. but it seems like not that many dualdiscs are being produced. Yeah once in a while, you'll run into one of them at the local record store.. but what hurt the dualdisc idea was the thickness of the disc wouldn't allow it to be played on some CD players. I don't know of that problem has been solved or not.

I like the concept of the dual sided disc... but it's changed a little bit over the last couple of years. the first couple dualdiscs had a CD side then you flip it over for a hi resoultion DVD-audio side.. as far as I can tell now that DVD-audio layer has changed to become a dolby digital layer instead. making it more consumer friendly and playable. but from what i can tell, it's no longer a high resoultion audio format on that one side.

[SCompRacer]

I love SACD as well, but have a lot of problems with bass management.

Is there a SACD Two Channel setting? If my Sony is set to SACD Multi, the low freq. content goes out the sub out channel.

[reeltrouble1]

I love SACD as well, but have a lot of problems with bass management. My Pioneer DV-59avi doesn't seem to like putting out ANY bass when using the analogue outs. So, I just end up using Coax digital out and letting the HK 635do all the thinking.

Anyone have ideas on BM using 59avi?

I have a 47ai and you can change the setting in the menu to default to the 2-channel layer of an SACD. Plenty of Bass through my fronts.
RT1

[Danny Tse]

Is there a SACD Two Channel setting? If my Sony is set to SACD Multi, the low freq. content goes out the sub out channel.

Usually, there should be a button on the face plate or the remote that can do a toggle between "stereo/multi-channel".

[danger boy]

my subwoofer turns on when i listen to SACD's or DVD-audio's using the 7.1 analog inputs. doesn't everyone's? This is news to me. It was the same on my Marantz SR5000. the sub would always kick on.

Right now i'm listening to John Mayer - Heavier Things on SACD. very nice. but i had to turn the sub off.. it was to much bass. :eek: :p

[Danny Tse]

this is just my opinion.. but it seems like not that many dualdiscs are being produced. Yeah once in a while, you'll run into one of them at the local record store.. but what hurt the dualdisc idea was the thickness of the disc wouldn't allow it to be played on some CD players. I don't know of that problem has been solved or not.

DualDisc has pretty much been abandoned by the music labels. The issue of compatibility with CD players remains and I don't think consumers wants to pay the amount charged for a typical DualDisc (more than a SACD). Most electronics manufacturers have also come out and warned about playing DualDiscs in their players....which doesn't lend confidence to the format for consumers.

On the other hand, there are a number of DualDisc titles that should be enjoyable and collectible in the future. For example, DualDiscs of Bon Jovi and the Pete Townshend/Ronnie Lane "Rough Mix" album contain multi-channel mixes that aren't available anywhere else.

[Danny Tse]

my subwoofer turns on when i listen to SACD's or DVD-audio's using the 7.1 analog inputs. doesn't everyone's? This is news to me. It was the same on my Marantz SR5000. the sub would always kick on.

So your player is set to multi-channel mode. At least that's what it sounds like since the signal from the SACD is triggering the sub to come on. I would check the owner's manual to your SACD player.

[SCompRacer]

Usually, there should be a button on the face plate or the remote that can do a toggle between "stereo/multi-channel".

That there is. I have to be careful with the 9100 remote. They put that SACD Multi/2 Channel button right where my thumb rests.

[cfrizz]

I have had bass with my sacd's from day one as well. Yes I do have it set to multichannel.

[shack]

My SACD player defaults to 2 channel. I have to make it play MC (which I rarely do). I'm able to play my SACDs through my HT rig in 2.1. My AVR has a pass through analog mode that sends fullrange to the fronts and the sub (via the LFE out). I set the subs crossover where I want it and it's good to go.

[AndyGwis]

I think I have to go through the menu to toggle between 2-channel and 5.1 for SACDs. I'll play with it. I think I was trying to do 2.1, and I'm not sure that's an option. . . or small fronts with the sub taking the low frequencies.

Just picked up a couple new SACDs, so I'll play around with the settings next time I have the chance.

[hearingimpared]

I purchased the six "Living Stereo" classics that are currently out. I listened to two of them tonight. Someone should start a "What SACD Are You Listening To" thread.

Anyhow the first was;

Julian Bream: "Poplular Classics For Spanish Guitar" Beautiful, rich, dynamic, Spanish Guitar. The air between the strings and the natural reverb was awesome. One BIG problem though. . . there is an awful ever present hiss throughout the entire recoding. I thought maybe something was gone awry in my rig but not so. . . it was definetely the recording. I had a hard time focusing on the music.

Heifetz: "Double Concertos" This one more than made up for the the first and made the price of the first more tolerable. Beautiful string work and a deep rich dynamic performance. This one is definetely a keeper.

[schwarcw]

Joe,

Did you buy these two:

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p97/schwarcw/CharlesMunch.gif

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p97/schwarcw/FritzReiner.gif

[hearingimpared]

Joe,

Did you buy these two:

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p97/schwarcw/CharlesMunch.gif

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p97/schwarcw/FritzReiner.gif

Nope Carl, I have these others:

I can't find the pictures right at the moment, I'll post them later.

Joe

[hearingimpared]

Carl,

I have these three others:

[Danny Tse]

The "Richard Strauss in High Fidelity" SACD is awesome. You can get it through yourmusic.com for $6.99/each.

Just got this SACD myself....

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e83/unixsystem/SACD/SAClark_1.jpg

[F1nut]

Danny, you worry me at times. :eek:

[Danny Tse]

Danny, you worry me at times. :eek:

Shouldn't this be balanced out w/ the purchase of the Peter Gabriel SACD mentioned earlier? :D

[hearingimpared]

Shouldn't this be balanced out w/ the purchase of the Peter Gabriel SACD mentioned earlier? :D

NOPE:D

[John K.]

Joe, my favorite SACD is this (http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6753970) rather pricey(I got it on sale) 2-disc set of the gorgeous music for Swan Lake. Also pricey, but remarkably beautiful, is this Ravel collection (http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6837579). A really excellent Mussorgsky collection (http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6739738)comes out of the land of my ancestors at a reasonable price. For one of the 39 or so "Living Stereo" SACDs that hasn't been mentioned yet, you should definitely consider the Fiedler/Wild Gershwin (http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6810735) disc.

[reeltrouble1]

Anti HI-FI Audio Insurgent sighting.

RT1

[hearingimpared]

Joe, my favorite SACD is this (http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6753970) rather pricey(I got it on sale) 2-disc set of the gorgeous music for Swan Lake. Also pricey, but remarkably beautiful, is this Ravel collection (http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6837579). A really excellent Mussorgsky collection (http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6739738)comes out of the land of my ancestors at a reasonable price. For one of the 39 or so "Living Stereo" SACDs that hasn't been mentioned yet, you should definitely consider the Fiedler/Wild Gershwin (http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6810735) disc.


Thanks John, I'll tell you what is a pricey SACD . . . Jazz at the Pawnshop = $60.

But my philosophy is if the music and performance and recording are great, price is no object. Thanks again for the info, I'll be checking them out.

[Danny Tse]

Thanks John, I'll tell you what is a pricey SACD . . . Jazz at the Pawnshop = $60.

But my philosophy is if the music and performance and recording are great, price is no object. Thanks again for the info, I'll be checking them out.

There are several version of the "Pawnshop" SACD. Most recent version split it into 2 separate disc and each is available individually. But they still end up costing about $60.00 total.

[hearingimpared]

Here are some Genesis SACS and sets. (http://store.acousticsounds.com/search_results.cfm?adv=true%20&searchtext=genesis&field=All%20&status=Pre%20Order%20&category=Any&keywords=NL012607)

[Danny Tse]

Just when you thought it's safe...."Jazz at the Pawnshop" 30th Anniversary 3 SACD + DVD set

http://www.sa-cd.net/showtitle/4485

[hearingimpared]

Just when you thought it's safe...."Jazz at the Pawnshop" 30th Anniversary 3 SACD + DVD set

http://www.sa-cd.net/showtitle/4485


Yea I received an email from a specialty shop I use notifiying me of the special additions with extra previously unreleased tracks. They are really finally giving that its due. . .however the prices are getting prohibative as they are doing the special additions in like just five hundred copies and that's it.

If you don't have Jazz at the Pawnshop, I highly recommend getting it. . .The 180gm double LP set is heaven.

[SLOCOOKN]

Just when you thought it's safe...."Jazz at the Pawnshop" 30th Anniversary 3 SACD + DVD set

http://www.sa-cd.net/showtitle/4485

Thanks for the update Danny. I just placed my pre order!!!!! I can't wait!!!!!

[Danny Tse]

Thanks for the update Danny. I just placed my pre order!!!!! I can't wait!!!!!

No problem! I noticed The Kinks' "Celluloid Heroes (http://www.sa-cd.net/showtitle/4486)" has also been added as a new yet-to-be-released SACD title @ sa-cd.net

[G-2]

We listen in 2 channel and multi-channel, SACD is outstanding!! Just wish we could find more of them...

[Danny Tse]

We listen in 2 channel and multi-channel, SACD is outstanding!! Just wish we could find more of them...

I am still looking for this SACD....

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31695&stc=1&d=1150873687

It has never been officially released.

[hearingimpared]

I am still looking for this SACD....

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31695&stc=1&d=1150873687

It has never been officially released.

Danny when I click the link it brings be to a login page.

[Danny Tse]

Danny when I click the link it brings be to a login page.

Yeah, the pic was posted as an attachment on the stevehoffman.tv site. I guess you needed to be a member of that site to see it.

But never fear....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/soundboy/IMG_0115.jpg

[hearingimpared]

Yeah, the pic was posted as an attachment on the stevehoffman.tv site. I guess you needed to be a member of that site to see it.

But never fear....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/soundboy/IMG_0115.jpg

Thank you.

[jakelm]

Godsmack: The Other Side (SACD). Absolutly awsome.

[treitz3]

I'm glad you started this thread, Andrew. SACD still needs to be "talked up" as there are far too many folks whom remain clueless as to the superior sound quality.
My only beef is the selection, hopefully some record company executives will read this. We need more rock and blues!!!

This is as far as I read into this thread, and I agree! I put in "bold" what I thought was the most important thing.

I will read on and you will probably be hearing from me again on this subject.:D

[treitz3]

Please sign the petition! If you do not have a high enough resolution system yet.....sign it anyway. You'll be glad you did when you upgrade your system!:D

sign here....... http://www.petitiononline.com/SACD/petition.html

[Danny Tse]

I can't resist it....

Picked up Eden Atwood's "This is Always (http://www.sa-cd.net/showtitle/1800)" SACD for $7.95 at the local used music store. This is a Grove Note release, which almost gurantee a great recording. Also, for the princely amount of $1.95, got an used SACD of David Elias' "The Window (http://www.sa-cd.net/showtitle/1336)" despite it having a handwritten mark on the cover. It's a direct-to-DSD recording though.

[Danny Tse]

For those who are members of yourmusic.com....

2 new hybrid SACD titles from The Kinks were just added. Depending when you signed up, these are either $5.99 or $6.99 each.

[Danny Tse]

It's only April 4th and I already have over 10 SACDs coming in the mail....

Genesis SACD (NTSC) boxset
Phantom of the Red Chamber
Emi Fujita - Camomile Classics
Fiesta Espana
Ambush on All Sides - Zhang Hong Yan (Channel Classics)

Then there's a Japanese electronica/trance SACD from DJ Krush SACD and another promo-only SACD "single" from Hong Kong Universal Music.

[Danny Tse]

A bit of sad news to announce.....

Sony's New York studios to shut doors at end of August (http://www.gearslutz.com/board/mastering-forum/127993-official-sony-music-studios-closing.html)

Regarding SACDs, this facility has turned out some of the best sounding SACDs from the likes of Dylan, Beyonce, the Byrds, John Denver, the O'Jays, Tony Bennett, etc. I would imagine jazz classics such as Miles Davis' "Kind of Blue" and Dave Brubeck's "Time Out" were remastered there as well.

Sad news indeed.....

[ben62670]

My local BB just started to stock more SACD's. I wonder if it has anything to do with Sony wanting to reduce their inventory?

[danger boy]

the local BB's here have not replenished their supply of SACD's or DVD-Audio. they won't admit that they won't be carrying them anymore.. but the writing is on the wall that they don't plan on getting any new ones in.

[DesertPilot]

I'm buying through the internet. I gave up on buying through a retailer. But, there is a lot of stuff in SACD format on the internet. Really great and brand new SACD stuff.

marcus

[Danny Tse]

The latest Telarc e-news letter mentioned an upcoming September hybrid SACD release of "Ray Charles: Ray Sings, Basie Swings".

[Danny Tse]

According to the website of elusivedisc.com (http://www.elusivedisc.com/prodinfo.asp?number=AFSA015&utm_source=email&utm_medium=special), this Audio Fidelity SACD will be re-pressed one last time in limited quantities during September. For those who enjoy Donovan's music, and Steve Hoffman's remastering of it, watch out for this reissue SACD.

[Danny Tse]

I took the liberty of linking fatchowmein's shopping experience (http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54837) with an excellent Hong Kong e-tailer that I recommended to him. For those who are into SACDs and are looking for some hard-to-find titles (or titles not listed on sa-cd.net), I highly recommend hifi-cd.com. Shipping is very quick and the shipping charge is roughly US$3.00/disc. Here's the site in English (http://www.hifi-cd.com/en/index.html?javaID=25bb6a60cd472aad4bb899c0b2d2a8e9 ).

Fatchowmein....before you pull the trigger on the SACD of Diana Krall's "Book of Love", be aware that there's a XRCD version (http://www.hifi-cd.com/en/product/item/3808/product_detail.html) of the same title that was commissioned last year by Universal Music Hong Kong. These are the same people responsible for the XRCD of Dire Straits' "Brothers in Arms" and the Eagles' "Hell Freezes Over".

[jakelm]

I am looking everywhere for alittle more modern ambient music.

Lord of the dance
Enya
Enigma

These cd's sound great on standard disk, I would love to hear them on SACD or DVD-A.

[F1nut]

Nice site, Danny.

This XRCD, Robert Lucas - Luke and the Locomotives is a must buy. Not only is the music (blues) top notch, the recording is one of the best I've ever heard.

http://www.hifi-cd.com/en/product/item/7599/product_detail.html?javaID=25bb6a60cd472aad4bb899c 0b2d2a8e9

[fatchowmein]

I took the liberty of linking fatchowmein's shopping experience (http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54837) with an excellent Hong Kong e-tailer that I recommended to him. For those who are into SACDs and are looking for some hard-to-find titles (or titles not listed on sa-cd.net), I highly recommend hifi-cd.com. Shipping is very quick and the shipping charge is roughly US$3.00/disc. Here's the site in English (http://www.hifi-cd.com/en/index.html?javaID=25bb6a60cd472aad4bb899c0b2d2a8e9 ).

Fatchowmein....before you pull the trigger on the SACD of Diana Krall's "Book of Love", be aware that there's a XRCD version (http://www.hifi-cd.com/en/product/item/3808/product_detail.html) of the same title that was commissioned last year by Universal Music Hong Kong. These are the same people responsible for the XRCD of Dire Straits' "Brothers in Arms" and the Eagles' "Hell Freezes Over".

Danny,
Would you recommend the XRCD version over the SACD? I've don't have any experience with XRCD but if it's equal to the SACD copy and I can rip it to my file server for playback on my Squeezebox, I'm all for it.

[F1nut]

The XDCD, while very good and much better than the standard redbook version, can't hold a candle to the SACD version.

[Danny Tse]

For those interested in jazz, Japan Sony Music will be re-releasing a whole bunch of titles from Herbie Hancock and Miles Davis on hybrid SACD.

[fatchowmein]

For those interested in jazz, Japan Sony Music will be re-releasing a whole bunch of titles from Herbie Hancock and Miles Davis on hybrid SACD.

When? Miles has a way of making the notes hang in the air. Intoxicating.

If SACD = crack
I'm a crack addict
You're the pusher responsible for my addiction.

Thx Danny

[Danny Tse]

The Herbie Hancock SACDs, including "Future Shock" (featuring the single "Rock It", remember that?), will be released in September. The Miles Davis SACD re-releases will come in October. Rumor of a new remastering for the new reissues.

[Danny Tse]

New SACDs announced by Analog Productions

Ry Cooder: A Meeting by the River (http://www.sa-cd.net/showtitle/4877)

Rickie Lee Jones: It's Like This (http://www.sa-cd.net/showtitle/4876)

Hugh Masekela: Hope (http://www.sa-cd.net/showtitle/4875)

Susan Tedeschi: Just Won't Burn (http://www.sa-cd.net/showtitle/4874)

[aaharvel]

Wow. 4 lousy discs.

As an early SA-CD adopter, I'm disappointed with the direction the entertainment business has taken since.

[Face]

Too bad there aren't more rock/metal groups using this format, it'd be a waste for me to get a SACD player.

[reeltrouble1]

Danny,

That is great news, I really like the Tedeshi disc on Redbook, cannot wait to hear "Take me from Montgomery" and the Ry Cooder is excellent. Good to see more music coming out.

I agree its too bad the suits at Sony have pretty much assured any small label interested in SACD that they will not be given sufficient quantities to make them low cost hybrid with the SACD for folks like us who appreciate it. Sony beat the hell our of that Rolling Stones deal making them pull the SACD and leaving just the Redbook.

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[Danny Tse]

I agree its too bad the suits at Sony have pretty much assured any small label interested in SACD that they will not be given sufficient quantities to make them low cost hybrid with the SACD for folks like us who appreciate it.

Rumor has it that the SACD pressing capability at Sony's Terre Haute, Indiana CD/SACD pressing plant has been shut down, which means no SACD manufacturing capability at all in the US. The new titles will most likely come from Sony's Japanese plant.

[reeltrouble1]

well, I saw it was one day a week recently so I guess that was too much.........Since Sony owns it they are playing bully and do not at this point seem to want this format to become well. low cost.

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[hearingimpared]

. . . and there are still electronic's manufacturers making SACD players, go figure!

[Danny Tse]

. . . and there are still electronic's manufacturers making SACD players, go figure!

And Pioneer Elite is set to release a 2 channel stereo CD/SACD player. :confused:

[F1nut]

Yep, new SACD players hit the market all the time now and Sony keeps saying that they are still backing it, but then they pull some bonehead move like shutting down the US plant. I mean, WTF are they thinking about other than their bottom line!!!

[hearingimpared]

Yep, new SACD players hit the market all the time now and Sony keeps saying that they are still backing it, but then they pull some bonehead move like shutting down the US plant. I mean, WTF are they thinking about other than their bottom line!!!

The head you see coming out of Sony's president's shoulders is there because his head is so far up his ass it is protruding again out his shoulders.

[wingnut4772]

The head you see coming out of Sony's president's shoulders is there because his head is so far up his ass it is protruding again out his shoulders.

:confused: :confused:

I think that may be profound.

[Danny Tse]

I just want to mention that elusivedisc.com is showing a pre-order of the SACD for the Pixies' "Doolittle" album. The SACD is being reissued by Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab.

[fbwinners]

Danny,
Would you recommend the XRCD version over the SACD? I've don't have any experience with XRCD but if it's equal to the SACD copy and I can rip it to my file server for playback on my Squeezebox, I'm all for it.



How do you like your squeezbox, I have been tempetd to purchase one for quit sometime. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.


FB

[F1nut]

Ugh!

[disneyjoe7]

All I can add is this I've joined the SACD movement.... And I'm Digging IT :D Have a couple Elton Johns and they sound GOOD.

Using a Pioneer Elite DV-79avi sounds ok with me. Know there's better but... Works for me. ;)

[fatchowmein]

How do you like your squeezbox, I have been tempetd to purchase one for quit sometime. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.


FB

I love my squeezebox (SB3). I love having my entire music library and playlists at my fingertips. I also love the internet radio capabilities. Highly recommended.

In terms of music fidelity, SACD is superior. That's why my Diana Krall's "The Look of Love" SACD is usually in my SACD player even though my entire Diana Krall library is accessible from the SB3. However, I do not have my SB3 connected to a DAC.

Long day at work = SACD + cognac
House chores = SB3 + Diet Coke

[hearingimpared]

Ugh!

Geese you talk too much!

[fbwinners]

I love my squeezebox (SB3). I love having my entire music library and playlists at my fingertips. I also love the internet radio capabilities. Highly recommended.

In terms of music fidelity, SACD is superior. That's why my Diana Krall's "The Look of Love" SACD is usually in my SACD player even though my entire Diana Krall library is accessible from the SB3. However, I do not have my SB3 connected to a DAC.

Long day at work = SACD + cognac
House chores = SB3 + Diet Coke



I truly appreciate the feedback, this will be a christmas gift to myself.


Thanks, FB

[reeltrouble1]

All I can add is this I've joined the SACD movement....
Using a Pioneer Elite DV-79avi sounds ok with me. Know there's better but... Works for me. ;)

Good to hear Steve, I am guessing the Pioneer must have a stout remote.;)

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[disneyjoe7]

Ted, my commit on I know there's better was referring to your stuff ;)


The remote Harmony 880 :)

[reeltrouble1]

You know when you dont know what you don't know you dont know how you don't know it.

cool remote, the curved edges should help.........

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[disneyjoe7]

You know when you dont know what you don't know you dont know how you don't know it.

RT1


Don't you know it. :eek:

[F1nut]

A milestone in SACD, 5000 titles have now been released. Rock on!

[hearingimpared]

I want them all!!! I know some are better than others. I just keep going through this thread to pick out the winners.

[Danny Tse]

A milestone in SACD, 5000 titles have now been released. Rock on!

That's on sa-cd.net (http://www.sa-cd.net/) only. There're many more SACD titles released than the 5,000 listed on that site.

[John K.]

Joe, since I last suggested some SACDs to you there are now two more that came out that I'd definitely suggest that you consider: Munch's always-exciting Berlioz collection (http://www.amazon.com/Berlioz-Harold-Overtures-Hybrid/dp/B000QEIM8W/) has been very successfully re-mastered for SACD and a new disc of Vaughan Williams' (http://www.amazon.com/Vaughan-Williams-Symphony-Fantasia-Thomas/dp/B000NIWIC2/)gorgeous harmonies comes out of Atlanta and makes for beautiful listening.

[hearingimpared]

Joe, since I last suggested some SACDs to you there are now two more that came out that I'd definitely suggest that you consider: Munch's always-exciting Berlioz collection (http://www.amazon.com/Berlioz-Harold-Overtures-Hybrid/dp/B000QEIM8W/) has been very successfully re-mastered for SACD and a new disc of Vaughan Williams' (http://www.amazon.com/Vaughan-Williams-Symphony-Fantasia-Thomas/dp/B000NIWIC2/)gorgeous harmonies comes out of Atlanta and makes for beautiful listening.

Thanks, both are in my favorites category.

[F1nut]

That's on sa-cd.net (http://www.sa-cd.net/) only. There're many more SACD titles released than the 5,000 listed on that site.

Roger that. However, that's the only site I know of that lists the majority of them making it more or less the official list in my book.

Any new info on WYWH?

[Danny Tse]

Any new info on WYWH?

Can someone translate the following information about the upcoming release of Pink Floyd's "Wish You Were Here" SACD in April?

Wish You Were Here SACD de lanzará finalmente durante el mes de Abril, informa EMI en aquella nota de prensa (no rueda de prensa) que anuncié hace unas semanas atras. Contendrá, junto al diseño original, un nuevo diseño realizado por Storm Thogersom sobre el diseño original de 1975. (Algunas fotos ya las he puesto anteriormente en mi página). La remasterización ha sido dirigida por James Guthrie con el beneplácito de los 4 miembros de Pink Floyd. El resultado es espectácular mejorando incluso; a la edición en SACD de "The Dark Side Of The Moon" de 2003. Se trabaja en su presentación posiblemente en una caja que guardará el SACD y elementos referentes al diseño de portada y curiosidades de ediciones anteriores del disco.

A la par, en los USA la discografía replica vinilo japonesa (que no tiene nada que ver a la mierda que han publicado en la caja esa de "Oh By Way" - que es una mala copia) se lanzará el 27 de Mayo después de sinfin de retrasos. En Europa lo hará el 7 de Julio. Más información en donde ya sabeís. Un Saludo a todos.

The post was from here (http://boards2.melodysoft.com/Pink/wish-you-were-here-sacd-para-abril-83944570.html) and was was posted at sa-cd.net as well.

[Music Joe]

"Wish You Were Here" SACD finally launched during the month of April, EMI reported in a press release (no press), which was announced a few weeks ago. Contained alongside the original design, a new design by Thogersom Storm on the original design of 1975. (Some photos I put in my earlier page). The conversion has been directed by James Guthrie welcomed by all 4 members of Pink Floyd. The result is improved over the spectacular; SACD edition of "The Dark Side Of The Moon" in 2003. It works in his presentation possibly in a box that saves the SACD and material relating to the design of home and curiosities from previous editions of the disk.

Together, in the USA discography replica Japanese vinyl (which has nothing to do with the shit they have appeared in the box of this "Oh By Way" - that is a bad copy) will be launched on May 27 after lots of delays. In Europe it will on 7 July. For more information, wherever it sabeís. A salute to all.

[Ricardo]

Will be released in April; will have the original design plus a new one made by Storm Thogersom from the same ooriginal from 1975 (Says some pictures have been posted already). Remastered by James Guthrie with the approval of the four PF members. The result is spectacular, and even better than the 2003 DSOTM SACD. It will probably be sold in a box that will include elements relative to the cover design and some other stuff.
At the same time, the Japanese Vinyl (That has nothing to do with that"Oh By Way" SHIT) will be released after numerous delays on May 27 in the U.S. and on July 7 in Europe.

[F1nut]

I've got my SACD player warmed up. :D

[Danny Tse]

For those who are into jazz....Analogue Productions will be issuing 25 Blue Note titles on hybrid SACD. I believe Steve Hoffman is involved in the engineering of these....

Jackie McLean - Capuchin Swing
John Patton - Along Came John
Ike Quebec - It Might As Well Be Spring
Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers - Moanin'
Hank Mobley - A Caddy For Daddy
Jackie McLean - Jackie's Bag
Dexter Gordon - Go
Lou Donaldson - Blues Walk
Dexter Gordon - Dexter Calling
Fred Jackson - Hootin' 'N Tootin'
Grant Green - Idle Moments
Grant Green - Green Street
Art Taylor - A.T.'s Delight
Lee Morgan - Lee-way
Paul Chambers - Whims of Chambers
Joe Henderson - Page One
Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else
Ike Quebec - Soul Samba Bossa Nova
Lou Donaldson - Here 'Tis
Horace Silver - The Tokyo Blues
John Coltrane - Blue Train
Kenny Burrell - Midnight Blue
The Three Sounds - Bottom's Up
Kenny Dorham - Whistle Stop
Sonny Rollins - Vol. 2

[F1nut]

Oh goody, more SACD's! Too bad I don't like jazz.

[fatchowmein]

For those who are into jazz....Analogue Productions will be issuing 25 Blue Note titles on hybrid SACD. I believe Steve Hoffman is involved in the engineering of these....

Jackie McLean - Capuchin Swing
John Patton - Along Came John
Ike Quebec - It Might As Well Be Spring
Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers - Moanin'
Hank Mobley - A Caddy For Daddy
Jackie McLean - Jackie's Bag
Dexter Gordon - Go
Lou Donaldson - Blues Walk
Dexter Gordon - Dexter Calling
Fred Jackson - Hootin' 'N Tootin'
Grant Green - Idle Moments
Grant Green - Green Street
Art Taylor - A.T.'s Delight
Lee Morgan - Lee-way
Paul Chambers - Whims of Chambers
Joe Henderson - Page One
Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else
Ike Quebec - Soul Samba Bossa Nova
Lou Donaldson - Here 'Tis
Horace Silver - The Tokyo Blues
John Coltrane - Blue Train
Kenny Burrell - Midnight Blue
The Three Sounds - Bottom's Up
Kenny Dorham - Whistle Stop
Sonny Rollins - Vol. 2

Sweet! Thanks, Danny. I've been wanting to try out Cannonball Adderley.

[dorokusai]

I believe the difference between SACD and Redbook is pretty obvious as well. I still wish they had a larger library of music in the areas that I'm most interested in.

[Face]

I believe the difference between SACD and Redbook is pretty obvious as well. I still wish they had a larger library of music in the areas that I'm most interested in.
I agree.

[Keiko]

I believe the difference between SACD and Redbook is pretty obvious as well. I still wish they had a larger library of music in the areas that I'm most interested in.
No comment. :p jk Doro. I've been buying up as much as I can get my hands on. I agree with the general population tho. Wish more classic rock titles were available.

[F1nut]

Wish more classic rock titles were available.

Amen and + 1000

[reeltrouble1]

please keep moaning, I thought Terre Haute was out of business for SACD but was told that is not the case, they are still being pressed there, in the mean time I am snapping them up where I can, I got a James Taylor Hourglass yesterday gave it a quick listen and SQ is very nice with good dynamics, I think I will head to the Shed with my coffee for little relaxation.

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[Danny Tse]

I thought Terre Haute was out of business for SACD but was told that is not the case, they are still being pressed there

That's good to know. I've been wondering where Telarc was having its SACDs pressed.

[Danny Tse]

Any new info on WYWH?

Just in case anyone wants to know about the latest news on Pink Floyd's "Wish You Were Here" SACD....it was mentioned in an interview with David Gilmour for the current issue of UK's Mojo magazine. When asked whether the SACD of WYWH will ever be released, Dave had the below quote....

"Yes. But when I last listened to it, there were still problems which need sorting out before we release it."

[Face]

Thanks for the update Danny.

[Danny Tse]

Thanks for the update Danny.

No problem at all. Let's keep our fingers crossed. Geez, if Peter Gabriel can approve his Genesis contributions and release them on SACD....

[F1nut]

Thanks Danny!

You know, my Mastersound gold CD version sounds pretty damn good as I'm sure MillerLiteScott will attest to. Not sure what needs sorting out.

[candyliquor35m]

my interest in sacds is falling every time I buy a new one. It may be because with my sdas, I get such a huge soundstage that the sacds add very little. It may be different with other speakers.

[F1nut]

The soundstage is the least of the differences between redbook and SACD. It's the amount of information brought forth, detail and micro detail, resolution, bass definition and impact, how cymbals actually sound like cymbals and the weight of the music that are but some of the advantages of SACD.

[treitz3]

Some of...........

[TroyD]

my interest in sacds is falling every time I buy a new one. It may be because with my sdas, I get such a huge soundstage that the sacds add very little. It may be different with other speakers.

Again, you haven't the faintest idea of what you are talking about.

Dumbass, don't you think that many of us listen to SDA's?? So, possibly we KNOW what sort of soundstaging they are capable of??

Now, if you wanted to talk about resolution or detail, then perhaps we could discuss. However, we, once again look into your big bag and, as usual, it's full of NOTHING.

BDT

[Danny Tse]

For those looking for the below SACD titles, they're currently available at amazon.co.uk at very good prices....

A Secret Wish - Propaganda
Vertigo - Groove Amanda
Daft - The Art of Noise

[Danny Tse]

I just want to mention that the number of titles at sa-cd.net (http://www.sa-cd.net) has gone past the 5,500 mark (it's currently at 5,502 titles). Not too bad for a "dead" format....with over 500 new releases this year alone.