Chicago Polkfest???

[MikeC78]

The curse has been broken, great event, glad everyone had fun.

Well, unfortunately we encountered some kind of curse during this event...

It was a clogged kitchen sink that accured late Thursday night!:( It ruined part of my listening experience Saturday afternoon running to Lowe's to get a sink "snake" to unclog this curse with negative results.:( I finally said F*CK it, and figured I'd worry about it later.

Here are some pics of what I did to the pipes with the pressure washer Sunday afternoon trying to unclog the drain.:o

Notice the hole in the insulation... Water actually shot through the pipe, through the insulation, the sheathing for the siding and was leaking all over my deck!!:eek: I'm a horrible plumber!:o

[MikeC78]

Well, I have no idea why Mike says I am "hilarious".....I did my best to behave and am pretty sure I didn't drink more than I should.....

(And, I swear I never had my pants off.....I thought Rich was more serious ;))

You are just naturally a funny guy, you remind me of a cartoon character of some sort!:p

[MikeC78]

I'm jumping in late also! It's been a long day getting stuff done so I can leave for Boston early Monday morning!

Mike and Annie - we could not have asked for better hosts! You two were absolutely fantastic! And your HT system absolutely rocks! From the dual SVS to the HD display, it was fantastic.

Victor, Rich, Ricardo - thanks so much for setting this up. I had a great time and look forward to future get togethers! I'm probably forgetting someone on the thank you's for putting the event together, forgive me if I left anyone out!

Polk Audio and Signal Cable - thanks for supporting our event. It's the little things like this that drive customer loyalty!

I had a great time and enjoyed meeting everyone and listening to all the gear that we had. On the way home I hit a pretty good sized pothole on I39, and the next thing I hear from Brock is "well there go a set of drivers ........ in the Monitor 10's". I tried to miss the big bumps after that :rolleyes:

Thanks again to everyone involved for a fantastic event! Doug

Doug-

Thank you the kind words and bringing all your wonderful gear! Was a pleasure to meet you and hope to meet again someday.

I almost forgot about those Epos(sp?) speakers you brought over! Anyone looking for something the size of an LSi7 bookshelf, should REALLY consider these!! These speakers suprised the hell out of me, what a wonderful sounding bookshelf!!

Mike

[MikeC78]

We did do a quick shootout between my NAD pre/Pro and his Pioneer AVR. It was much closer than I thought it would be with the NAD giving just a little extra detail. The added benefit of having HDMI switching on the AVR would make it a tough choice if I had to recommend one or the other to someone. (to 85% of the people I would have to recommend the Pioneer just for the flexability of HDMI and the uncompressed sound available when running HD sources.

Michael

This was very interesting!! I think Michael's NAD embarrased my Pioneer Elite!:o Looks like I'll be doing some upgrading in the near future...

[Ricardo]

You are just naturally a funny guy, you remind me of a cartoon character of some sort!:p

ok; that was it; I don't care you're six times my size and trained to kill. Next time I see you you'll be sorry :eek: :eek: :eek: ;)

[halo]

I just called Paul DiComo and got his voicemail. Left a message, sent a PM, as well as an email.

Give him a call folks! 800-377-7655

Send him an email or a pm! pdicomo at polkaudio dot com

Its the least we can do! :)

Hope I spelled your names right and addresses too - some of you write like chicken scratches :confused: :p ;) :D

Also called Frank at Signal Cable and thanked him profusely for his generosity. Said he received an email from a Polkie expressing thanks too. Keep 'em coming people - give him a call or send an email - let him know how you feel :)

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We can also be reached at 917-957-8508

[halo]

I've got a date with the dentist today so I'll be out for a while. Please be patient - I'll get the photos up ASAP :)

[Ricardo]

You need to straighten out your priorities :)

[halo]

You need to straighten out your priorities :)
You really are a funny guy (picture the scene from Goodfellas ;) ) :D

[engtaz]

Sorry to hear about the plumming problem "Tim the Toolman Taylor" LOL sometimes more power equals more trouble. All of you sound like you had a good time. Congrats on the event.

[a_mattison]

Aaron, SVS opens at 10am eastern, 9am central (703)-845-1472. Just ask for Eric:D

Oddly enough... I had a bit of a subwoofer scare last night. We decided to watch a movie last night and I was quite interested to see how my Velo sounded now compared to the dualing-SVS's. The movie started and I thought, "Man, my sub really blows. I don't hear any bass now compared to that SVS." Well, the truth was, I wasn't hearing bass because there wasn't any. The sub was not playing. Long story short and one coronary later..... In moving gear around to get the Nak out from behind my wall-o-gear, I must have tugged the sub out loose. ...All better now. My first thought was, ":mad: Holly crap, now I have to buy a new sub..." then I thought..." :D Holy crap, now I have to buy a new sub!" But it's all better now. It's no SVS, but loads up my basement just fine for now.

That is an awesome HT you have, though mike. Well put together all the way around from video to audio. That plasma is pretty sweet!

I also forgot about the Epos. That is the second time I heard them in competition with the LSi7's and I must say they are a sleeper. Great bang for the buck! These mated with a small sealed sub would make a great compact system at a low price point.

[hearingimpared]

Well, unfortunately we encountered some kind of curse during this event...

It was a clogged kitchen sink that accured late Thursday night!:( It ruined part of my listening experience Saturday afternoon running to Lowe's to get a sink "snake" to unclog this curse with negative results.:( I finally said F*CK it, and figured I'd worry about it later.

Here are some pics of what I did to the pipes with the pressure washer Sunday afternoon trying to unclog the drain.:o

Notice the hole in the insulation... Water actually shot through the pipe, through the insulation, the sheathing for the siding and was leaking all over my deck!!:eek: I'm a horrible plumber!:o

Dude those holes are from the acidic vomit that was spewing from all the booze.!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[MikeC78]

There were a few items left at the house...

* One grungy looking purple towel (Rich?)

* Four porno magazines (Ricardo?)

Seriously, are these items gifts or does someone want to claim them?

[a_mattison]

There were a few items left at the house...

* One grungy looking purple towel (Rich?)

* Four porno magazines (Ricardo?)

Seriously, are these items gifts or does someone want to claim them?

Seriously? That's hilarious. ....Of course....:confused: :confused: :o who needs porn with all of that sweet gear around..;)

[dkg999]

If the porno mags say Stereophile and The Absolute Sound on them, I left those for you. Just a little bathroom reading for ya :D

[MikeC78]

Seriously? That's hilarious. ....Of course....:confused: :confused: :o who needs porn with all of that sweet gear around..;)

:p They are actually audio "porn" magazines.:D

[MikeC78]

If the porno mags say Stereophile and The Absolute Sound on them, I left those for you. Just a little bathroom reading for ya :D

Yep, you got it!! Thanks Doug!!:)

[heiney9]

:p They are actually audio "porn" magazines.:D

That's what I meant when I asked if you had any "porn" to demo the Home Theater :D

[hearingimpared]

You guys are nutz!!! LOL!:D

[MikeC78]

That's what I meant when I asked if you had any "porn" to demo the Home Theater :D

:o I actually thought you wanted to watch porn? If the wife wasn't around, I would of opened my secret stash!:p

[schwarcw]

Looks like a terrific event!

What model of SVS's do you have that everyone is raving about? They look like 20-39's????:confused:

[MikeC78]

PC-Ultra's...

Call me crazy, but I'm very close in pre-ordering the new ones.

[halo]

Looks like a terrific event!

What model of SVS's do you have that everyone is raving about? They look like 20-39's????:confused:Dual PC-Ultra's :eek:

oops :o Mike beat me to it :)

[halo]

PC-Ultra's...

Call me crazy, but I'm very close in pre-ordering the new ones.Yer not just crazy, your certifiable! After hearing that HT I can't see changing a thing man. It ain't broke - don't fix it! ;)

[heiney9]

Apparently when you're SDA addicted you let other things in your life slide, like putting the rest of my comments together from the Chicago PF :D :eek: .

Three other people I also need to thank are Aaron and Michelle for car pooling and not leaving my dead mutilated body on the farmers dirt road around Rochelle (inside joke), also Doug for sharing a hotel room, car pooling and helping load and unload my newly acquired SDA's. Thanks guys!!!! If you ever need any hauling, moving, or any other help in general let me know.

So much gear and listening experiences, this will probably end up being somewhat random so bare with me.


Nakamichi CA5 - SS preamp. Pretty old (maybe 15 or 20 years?) Sounded AWESOME. I liked the sound of the tube pre-amps that were playing, but switching to the SS Nak made everything sound so clean. I think it may have been my favorite of the pre-amps that I heard.Michael

I've owned this preamp since about 1986 bought mine new for less than $1000 and this is still my preferred pre. It is a sleeper of epic proportions, IMO. Very dynamic, open and smooth sounding pre. Anyone who is looking for a great 2 ch pre can pick these up for anywhere around $200-300 used.

Mike's dual SVS HT with the Plasma TV lift inside the cabinet was simply stunning. I have felt bass before but nothing like this. I could feel the floor flexing (a lot) under my feet. If you constantly run it like that you will need to reattach your floor planks. Serious, serious air movement going on.

Rich's vinyl rig sounded simply euphoric. I haven't listened to a proper vinyl rig in about 15 years. I really dug the sound of analog but I'm just too impatient to take the steps necessary to maintain such a set-up


The Inner Sound Eros had a lot more bass than I thought they would. The panels have a very laid back sound. Extremely open and “boxless”. They were a bit too laid back for my taste, but that’s not say they weren’t extremely enjoyable. The Sanders amps which we used for most of the shoot outs were very solid performers.

McLoki-That Cinepro is a beast. I’ve never seen one in person; a very manly amp until the Eros took away so of it’s manhood.

The Vonschweikert VR2’s were also an eye opener because they sounded so balanced. Not sure if they are worth the extra $$$ over the LSi 15’s but they had a “rightness” to them that was hard to deny.

The EPOS again stole the show for me especially for the sound to size to price ratio. What a nice sounding small monitor speaker. Open, seamless, effortless and a surprising amount of bass for a small speaker. The Lsi 7’s are a bit better especially the bottom end and I’m sure at higher volumes the 7’s sound better. But $329 vs. $899 retail that’s a tough one.

The LSi shoot-out went as expected, mostly. The 7’s are a great speaker but really need a sub to be top performers. The 9’s have a combination of smooth highs, punchy and accurate mids and a certain degree of “slam” that just makes them sound so good. Perhaps not the most accurate amount of bass, but a warmth that just seems to be so enjoyable.

I was personally a bit disappointed in the 15’s. I thought they sounded rather boomy and the bass was thin but we were using a tube pre and tube cdp initially and I still feel LSi’s and tubes don’t mate well. After putting the Nak pre into the mix they improved but they didn’t blow my socks off like I though they would. I still prefer the 9’s overall.

Now the highlight for me………………Norm’s modded SDA 1C’s. Upgraded x-overs with Solens on the mids and Sonic Cap Gen I bypassed with Sonic Cap Gen II on the highs as well as Mills resistors, RD0’s, Vampire Terminals and more used friendly IC cable which uses a banana plug.

I haven’t heard a proper pair of SDA’s probably since I stopped selling them. Although friends and ex in-laws still have some, it has been awhile for me. As soon as I heard them and found out they were FS it was a done deal. I actually at one point wasn’t going to get them then we compared them to the 15’s and I was sold. The stars were aligned properly as I got a great deal, got to hear them, know the history and could (with the help of Doug) transport them myself. A win, win, win situation!!! Except for my 9’s which can’t come close to competing with the SDA’s and really they shouldn’t have to. Sadly the 9’s have to go.

Again I want to thank our host’s and all the great people I got to meet and share with. Hopefully we can do this again on this type of scale.

H9

[SCompRacer]

Thanks for all the kind words. I was up 34 hours straight up to midnight Friday night, so if I seemed out of it at times, that is why. I didn’t intend on drinking but when Kevin brought all that beer I figured help was needed in consuming it. It was well worth it though and I enjoyed spending time with all of you. If there is one next year, hopefully it will be a week where I can get more time off.

Electrostats are not for everyone but if you never heard one, now you have. If we all liked the same things, this world would be pretty boring. We experienced many paths to different member’s concepts of audio nirvana, and that is what it should be about.


I spoke with Roger Sanders about the panel arcing on the Eros with the bridged Cinepro amp. Roger has been involved with ESL’s for over thirty years and even wrote a book about electrostatic speakers. He claims to have been the first to use curved panels but went back to flat panels. He felt they were more focused which sounds better and are more room placement friendly. This led to him working with Coda to improve upon an already existing amp design which became the InnerSound ESL amp, and later after he left InnerSound, the current Sanders Sound Systems ESL amp.

Clipping is different than the action of protective circuitry. Clipping is when the amp runs out of power. Protective circuitry usually works by disconnecting the power supply from the output transistors when certain conditions are present. Transistors have limits on both voltage, current, and a condition known as "safe operating area" (SOA). The SOA is determined by the phase angle between the current and voltage and the maximum values seen at a given time of both current and voltage.

For example, a transistor may be rated at 3 amps and 100 volts. But it can't deliver the maximum of both at the same time. And the degree to which it can deliver either is a function of the phase angle between them. So to protect transistors, protective circuitry monitors the load and shuts off the transistors if conditions become risky for the transistors. The problem with protective circuitry is that there will be a full voltage spike whenever it switches on and off. The voltage of these spikes are often much greater than the voltage passed by the transistors when playing music. When protective circuitry is active, the music can sound compressed in dynamic range and distortion can be present. When the Cinepro amp was bridged, the power supply voltage was doubled and the protective circuitry probably allowed a full voltage spike to pass through the amp as it protected the transistors from the load. It was at that point that the right speaker arced and provided the unplanned excitement.

The InnerSound/Sanders Sound Systems ESL amps use no protective circuitry (except for a speaker-protection fuse on the back panel). It is able to "get away" without protective circuitry because the output stage uses a large number of powerful transistors (36) that have a wide SOA so the load is spread over many transistors. As a result, each transistor only sees a tiny fraction of the load and is never pushed outside its SOA. It increases the cost of the amp, but he feels it works and sounds better than amps with fewer transistors with protective circuitry.

[a_mattison]

Gear (I heard alot and only remember some of it so bear with me)-

Nakamichi CA5 - SS preamp. Pretty old (maybe 15 or 20 years?) Sounded AWESOME. I liked the sound of the tube pre-amps that were playing, but switching to the SS Nak made everything sound so clean. I think it may have been my favorite of the pre-amps that I heard.



Here ya go....

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nakamichi-CA-5-CA5-Pre-Amplifier-Beautiful-Condition_W0QQitemZ250101668600QQihZ015QQcategoryZ 12050QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

[SCompRacer]

Rich's vinyl rig sounded simply euphoric. I haven't listened to a proper vinyl rig in about 15 years. I really dug the sound of analog but I'm just too impatient to take the steps necessary to maintain such a set-up




Thanks. I don't go through all the trouble some do, I'm just a wet vacumn and play guy for the ~200 albums I currently have. I have no plans of replacing all my CD/SACD's with vinyl.

I am extremely pleased with the ModWright phono stage but am still waiting for the pre amp to settle in. I only have ~225 hours since the SWL to SWLP upgrade. Part of the upgrade was replacing the Sonicaps with ModWrights signature Teflon film & foil caps (probably a formula variation manufactured by V-Cap). I am told they need 400 hours to fully settle in. I do miss the Sonicaps that were in the SWL and hope the Teflon caps live up to the hype.

[SCompRacer]

There were a few items left at the house...

* One grungy looking purple towel (Rich?)





Not mine. I have all the towels I brought there. The only one I had in the house was a clean one under the cardboard box I had placed the Nitty Gritty record cleaner in. By that kewl digital picture.

[engtaz]

Could someone put forum names matched with pic. thanks

[Ricardo]

post # 459

[hearingimpared]

Thanks. I don't go through all the trouble some do, I'm just a wet vacumn and play guy for the ~200 albums I currently have. I have no plans of replacing all my CD/SACD's with vinyl.

I am extremely pleased with the ModWright phono stage but am still waiting for the pre amp to settle in. I only have ~225 hours since the SWL to SWLP upgrade. Part of the upgrade was replacing the Sonicaps with ModWrights signature Teflon film & foil caps (probably a formula variation manufactured by V-Cap). I am told they need 400 hours to fully settle in. I do miss the Sonicaps that were in the SWL and hope the Teflon caps live up to the hype.

Okay Pal-O-Mine when you get done listening to the 200 LPs, send the phono pre to my house, I'll get plenty of use out of it!!!:D

[McLoki]

The InnerSound/Sanders Sound Systems ESL amps use no protective circuitry (except for a speaker-protection fuse on the back panel). It is able to "get away" without protective circuitry because the output stage uses a large number of powerful transistors (36) that have a wide SOA so the load is spread over many transistors. As a result, each transistor only sees a tiny fraction of the load and is never pushed outside its SOA. It increases the cost of the amp, but he feels it works and sounds better than amps with fewer transistors with protective circuitry.

Ok then - thank you for the explanation. The Cinepro 3k6 has the following internal workings (specs and design info) Courtesy of this secrets review (http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_5_1/cinepro3k6.html): Inside is where this amp really begins to look impressive. For those interested, the internal layout is neat, simple, and crowded with goodies. With an unGodly toroidal transformer, 120,000 µF of filter capacitance, and ±95 volt rails, it delivers, without straining, 350 watts into 8 Ohms, and 500 watts into 4 Ohms with all six channels operating. There are 1,050 Joules of energy storage just waiting to send those bass drums into your wall studs, courtesy of six bipolar output devices per channel.

The output sections use output inductors to ensure stability into reactive loads at ultrasonic frequencies. Theoretically, this could cause minor phase shifts in the audible band, but it's a minor drawback considering the possible alternative. If an amplifier's circuit design uses global feedback without an output network for the sake of bandwidth specifications, or to tailor a rising response for a more lively sound, it might lead to problems. Amplifiers with response peaks have poor phase response within the top of their bandwidth, which leaves them open to oscillation with reactive loads and, occasionally, catastrophic failure. Is an output inductor a compromise? Maybe. Significant? The CinePro 3k6 still has a wider bandwidth than many highly regarded amplifiers without output inductors, so I'd lean towards not very (significant, that is).

The CinePro isn’t just another pretty face with no guts. It's a simple, dependable design. Input driver stages, and outputs, mounted to the rear panel, share a large central power supply. It isn’t dual-mono, or hexa-mono for that matter, which does introduce some theoretical cross-talk compromises, but also comes with its own advantages. The ability to share a single power source allows extra juice, beyond a channel’s normal share, to be allocated where the need demands it most.


The only change my Cinepro has from the one reviewed is that Cinepro doubled the number of output transistors per channel to 12 as a mid-season change to the MkI model to help when running speakers that preset difficult loads. Mine does have the 12 output transistors per channel. That is as much as I know about the internal workings of the Cinepro since they are now out of business. The business partner that was part of cinepro has reopened under a new name and I could call him with specific questions if you have any. For now suffice it to say - straight, bi or tri amping is good with the Cinepro - bridged is bad (at least with electrostatics). The following quote comes to mind - "ok, important safety tip - dont cross the streams..."

I did think the Cinepro was doing well with them when bi-amping. It was more a volume than critical listening test, but to my uneducated ear - it was sounding pretty sweet. (then again I am a HT guy - what the hell do I know... ;) :p )

suffice it to say, they did/do sound good and I certainly understand their draw - even if it wasn't for me.

Michael

Note to self - in a crowd of peers is a bad time to start experimenting with things you have not tried before....:o :o

[engtaz]

post # 459

You have help me out again
Thanks

[opus]

PC-Ultra's...

Call me crazy, but I'm very close in pre-ordering the new ones.

Sounds like a good way to get your entire house painted to me, you are going to need somewhere for those Ultra's to go.;)

[McLoki]

Sounds like a good way to get your entire house painted to me, you are going to need somewhere for those Ultra's to go.;)

I have an image of opus standing on a streetcorner in Bloomington holding a sign reading "Will work for Bass"

[halo]

Sounds like a good way to get your entire house painted to me, you are going to need somewhere for those Ultra's to go.;)I think they'd want faux finishing for that price! ;) :D

[Ricardo]

Mike, why would you spend the money on new subs that would only sound "different"????

[opus]

Geez, come on guys. :eek: Trying to do a deal here. I was hoping to catch Mike drunk on letftover beer and in the dealing mood.;)

[halo]

Geez, come on guys. :eek: Trying to do a deal here. I was hoping to catch Mike drunk on letftover beer and in the dealing mood.;)
Now we know why you offered to bring the beer! McLoki scoped out the location and you came up with the plan. 1 sub for each conspirator, right?

J/K!!! :D :p :D

[McLoki]

Now we know why you offered to bring the beer! McLoki scoped out the location and you came up with the plan. 1 sub for each conspirator, right?

Now that is a plan I can get behind.....

[Normanality]

All this talk of subs and I have this ML Depth just sitting here.

Guess I should have sent it along LOL.

Sorry I missed out. Sounds like it was a top rate affair!
Hopefully the ole ticker will behave itself next time around.

[Ricardo]

Norm, I hope whatever kept you home goes away forever. We enjoyed all your gear..Thanks so much for sending it (And if I didn't mention it earlier, thanks to Rich for bringing it).

[MikeC78]

Sounds like a good way to get your entire house painted to me, you are going to need somewhere for those Ultra's to go.;)

If you want to strip all the wallpaper and paint the whole downstairs and upstairs, both Ultra's are yours! I'm dead serious...

Mike

[MikeC78]

I have an image of opus standing on a streetcorner in Bloomington holding a sign reading "Will work for Bass"

:D On the corner of State Farm and Veteran's.

[MikeC78]

Mike, why would you spend the money on new subs that would only sound "different"????

More output, these clogged pipes in the house are driving me crazy.:(

[MikeC78]

All this talk of subs and I have this ML Depth just sitting here.

Guess I should have sent it along LOL.

Sorry I missed out. Sounds like it was a top rate affair!
Hopefully the ole ticker will behave itself next time around.

Norm,

I can never thank you enough for letting us borrow your gear! I promise you that Rich took very good care of it, he has got to be the most careful guy I ever met.

Would love to meet you someday, take care...

Mike

[dkg999]

Sadly the 9’s have to go. H9

Well they're not going far! Send them on over and let me know what you want for them. After hearing Mike's HT, rebuilding my HT with LSi's is my current plan :D

[heiney9]

Well they're not going far! Send them on over and let me know what you want for them. After hearing Mike's HT, rebuilding my HT with LSi's is my current plan :D

I'm ready whenever you are. I was going to wait awhile and do some comparison's with the SDA's but I hooked the 9's up again and the SDA's are staying. I really have no use for the 9's currently :( so they are yours. I'm looking to get what I paid for the SDA's (which is less than I paid for them), but we can discuss it more in detail via e-mail.

H9

[halo]

Guess my thoughts on the gear at the PF are a little overdue.

The biggest surprises for me were the Polk Audio LSi9’s and the Von Schweikert VR-2’s.

You are probably wondering why I’m surprised by the VR-2’s – the exact speakers I used to own were the ones in attendance because I sold them to my brother Greg (who was also in attendance :) )

The reason is simple. When I owned them I had three different amps that I tried to pair them with – Parasound Halo A23, Sonic Impact t-amp, and the TAD-60 (also in attendance but it belonged to HTrookie). None of them got the job done at high volume levels. The Sanders amplifiers drove the LSi9’s & the VR-2’s to well over 106db with plenty of power to spare. The 9’s & VR-2’s alike sounded fantastic at room shaking levels.

MikeC and I had a discussion about this. Everyone agrees that the way LSi’s are demoed in stores is a joke. A Denon receiver simply doesn’t get the job done and anyone that hears the LSi’s in this configuration walks away with the WRONG impression. We thought “wouldn’t it be mutually beneficial for Polk to pair with a high quality, high power amp from company XYZ to be used in the showrooms at places like Tweeter where the ONLY thing running off said amp would be the LSi’s”? Heck, Polk could offer a combo deal of some sort. Doesn’t have to be a stand alone amp – could be a preamp amp combo or an integrated. This has probably been brought up somewhere before but I’d never heard either the LSi9’s or LSi15’s before the PF. I am shocked at the sound quality they are capable of given the “right” accompaniment. The value they represent at their modest price is UNBEATABLE.

Okay - on to the comparisons:

In comparing the 7’s to the 9’s – I preferred the 9’s.

In comparing the 9’s to the 15’s – I preferred the 9’s. I don’t feel a sub would be needed with either the 9’s or the 15’s for 2 channel listening.

In comparing the 15’s to the VR-2’s – I preferred the VR-2’s. Quite a few people mentioned that they really liked the African Hazelwood veneer on the VR-2’s. I’m also a fan of their tweakability. They can be adjusted to fit almost any room you place them in. Like others have stated it’s a small tower so it takes up less space, looks nice, and puts out great sound. They may cost more than the 15’s but IMO it is justified.

In comparing the SDA 1C’s to the LSi15’s – I preferred the 15’s. The SDA “effect” is cool but it just isn’t for me. Different strokes for different folks. I was surprised at the bass response of the LSi 15.

The Epos speakers were OUTSTANDING. I was upstairs when every one else was downstairs conducting the first demo with JATPS on the Epos. The house was filled with sound upstairs. Downstairs they had three pairs of speakers – Epos, Monitor 10’s, and the TAD monitors. I had no idea what was playing until Ricardo popped up and declared “those little Epos are amazing”. What I heard initially from the basement was later confirmed when we demoed them on the main rig. Amazing little speaker but not for anything remotely bass heavy – you’d have to add a fast sub to keep up with them IMO.

Mike’s HT was the shite. Cool cabinet, awesome PQ, skull crushing bass, and sweet sound from the LSi15’s. HT don’t get any better IMO.

As for gear, I guess I’m partial to my VTL pre, ModWright modified Sony 9100ES & the Sanders Sound System amplifiers. They give me exactly what I like when paired with the InnerSound Eros MK II's (my fav speakers at the PF).

SCompRacer's vinyl rig was literally out of this world. I could listen to vinyl all day long on that rig (as long as someone else did the prep work ;) :D ).

As for Jessica:

She preferred the LSi9’s to everything except the InnerSound Eros.

As for gear she likes the ModWright modified 9100ES with, as she puts it, the R2D2 tubes (they look like R2D2 behind Luke in the fighter to her) over everything else. She heard the difference at home and nothing at the PF changed her opinion.

She didn't notice a big enough difference between the preamps to justify an opinion there.

I wanted to add that Greg also had a great time at the PF. He asked me to say hi to everyone for him and to thank Mike and Annie for their gracious hospitality. He enjoyed meeting all who attended.

Once again, in regards to a CP forum based GTG, I was introduced to music I was not familiar with before but I will be purchasing it in the near future.

[heiney9]

Great input Halo,,,,, but damn now you've got me second guessing about whether I should just keep my 9's along with the SDA's :confused: .

H9

[MikeC78]

Nice hypothesis Halo and thanks for the kind words!

LSi9's vs the 15's, I prefer the 15's because I own them.:D For "bookshelf" speakers the 9's are fantastic. I'd actually give the 9's the edge for the overall sound for size ratio. I believe one of the most optimal HT setups would be LSi9's all the way around, including the center.

Still can't believe noone grabbed the Innersounds.:confused: I was really debating, just have absolutely nowhere to place them besides maybe replacing the 15's. The wife hated the looks of them anyway.

Mike

[SCompRacer]

The wife hated the looks of them anyway.



She is not alone, my wife feels the same way. Despite that, they are in the living room.:D We hit 31 years together yesterday. Have to wait for the weekend to celebrate. Darn work gets in the way and I am out of days till the new fiscal year June 1.

You get up this way and want to stop over, let me know. Same goes for the rest, only for some it would be a trip down South. We can drag Norm over as he is close by.;)

[halo]

Happy belated anniversary Rich & Dana!

We'll see you tonight so we can drop of the amp box (thanks for the loan) and pick up the picture disc. Did you find the other card?

Jessica has been reading this thread along with me so, in regards to the looks of the Eros,...

She didn't care for their appearance when we first unpacked them. :(

After she heard them she didn't care what they looked like ;) :D

I am a lucky man :)

[hearingimpared]

Thirty -one years Bro!!! Congrats. Man my own body didn't stay with me that long!!!

[hearingimpared]

In comparing the SDA 1C’s to the LSi15’s – I preferred the 15’s. The SDA “effect” is cool but it just isn’t for me. Different strokes for different folks. I was surprised at the bass response of the LSi 15.

Vic, I'm not casting aspersions on the SDA 1Cs but I gotta tell you, when I'm listening to my 1.2 TLs the "SDA effect" actually makes the music sound more natural. On most LPs it gets the soundstaging and stage depth correct and the vocals and instrument imaging right on.

I don't hear an "effect" anymore. I hear what sounds to me to be the way the music was intended to be heard. I've heard several high end speakers in my time and they can be transparently breathtaking. I still prefer the way the 1.2 TLs puts the air between instruments, notes, vocals etc.

[MikeC78]

No thoughts on HTrookie(Ricardo's) "busybee's"?? I seen them in the basement, but for some reason I didn't get the chance to hear them?

Mike

[a_mattison]

No thoughts on HTrookie(Ricardo's) "busybee's"?? I seen them in the basement, but for some reason I didn't get the chance to hear them?

Mike

It's all about the moonrock positioning.

[schwarcw]

Happy Anniversary Rich and Dana!!

Victor, which tubes are the R2D2 tubes?

I've never heard the LSi series in a good setup, maybe someday. A good amp means everything. Not just ample power, but good built, quality components make for a smooth dynamic response. My buddy's Krell KSA-250 (all 130 lbs.) will make a pair of swimming pool speakers sound good. It makes his Amazing MK IV Platinums sing like nothing you ever heard!

[SCompRacer]

Thanks for the anniversary wishes.

The Aural Ersatz TAD-803 speakers are imported by Paul Grzybek at Tube Audio Design. He is local to us here in Wheaton, IL. He also sells the wonderful TAD-60 tube amp that Norm, Victor and I have owned and Ricardo brought to the fest.

The Aural Ersatz speakers do not have a crossover. They don't have quite the low end extension of large speakers, but the bass is articulate and sounds tonally right. They throw a decent soundstage, and the midrange/highs sound detailed and coherent. I think they lack a bit of extension at both frequency extremes, but the midbass through the lower treble region is on a par with many higher price speakers. It might have been me or the room, but they seemed bright in the basement rig. Paul actually uses a pair along with the Aural Ecstasy sub in his system.

I had one of Paul's Aural Ecstasy TAD-SW150 subs for a while and used it in a two channel rig. For what is cost, it worked pretty good. A friend of mine ended up with it and uses it in his first home theatre setup.

[Ricardo]

The TAD-803's are not rock speakers, and as Rich says they lack extension at both estremes, but they have very pleasing mids and have a nice soundstage; with the right music they can be very enjoyable (and for $159 definitely a good buy IMO).

[SCompRacer]

IIRC, the basement room was reflective and echoey. Nearfield was where it was at to best hear what the speakers were capable of.

Paul has what some call an odd marketing plan. He doesn't advertise, and sells his products for less until it gains in popularity. I have met him and he is solid. He has top notch customer service if you experience a problem. I had an intermittent problem with my subwoofer amp and he didn't have any in stock to replace it. He removed the plate amp from his sub and swapped it for mine. It turned out to be just a bad solder joint.

[halo]

I just ordered the CD's I liked at the PF (the ones I remembered to write down anyway).

Thanks Ricardo, Brock, & Aaron for broadning my musical horizons :)

Larry Carlton's "Sapphire Blue" (awesome SDA demo material - track 8 in particular)
Paco de Lucia, Al Di Meola, & John McLaughlin "Friday Night in San Francisco" (excellent acoustic guitars)
Ella Fitzgerald "Ella for Lovers" (silky smooth voice)
Ani Di Franco "Carnegie Hall 4.6.02 & living in clip" (awesome live performance)
Herbie Hancock "Possibilities" (good stuff all around)

[MikeC78]

I just ordered the CD's I liked at the PF (the ones I remembered to write down anyway).

Thanks Ricardo, Brock, & Aaron for broadning my musical horizons :)

Larry Carlton's "Sapphire Blue" (awesome SDA demo material - track 8 in particular)
Paco de Lucia, Al Di Meola, & John McLaughlin "Friday Night in San Francisco" (excellent acoustic guitars)
Ella Fitzgerald "Ella for Lovers" (silky smooth voice)
Ani Di Franco "Carnegie Hall 4.6.02 & living in clip" (awesome live performance)
Herbie Hancock "Possibilities" (good stuff all around)


Victor,

Why didn't you just burn them when you were here? We could of just turned them into FLAK.:rolleyes:

[Ricardo]

Isn't that illegal?????

[MikeC78]

Isn't that illegal?????

Maybe if you get caught selling reproduced copies.

[a_mattison]

I just ordered the CD's I liked at the PF (the ones I remembered to write down anyway).

Thanks Ricardo, Brock, & Aaron for broadning my musical horizons :)

Larry Carlton's "Sapphire Blue" (awesome SDA demo material - track 8 in particular)
Paco de Lucia, Al Di Meola, & John McLaughlin "Friday Night in San Francisco" (excellent acoustic guitars)
Ella Fitzgerald "Ella for Lovers" (silky smooth voice)
Ani Di Franco "Carnegie Hall 4.6.02 & living in clip" (awesome live performance)
Herbie Hancock "Possibilities" (good stuff all around)

Victor, No problem! Ever since I realized my system was to the point that I could tell the difference between MP3's, compressed pop-music, and good recordings I've been on a quest for great recordings. Norah Jones never dissappoints, John Mayer is great and I'm still searching for more. I actually picked up a James Taylor CD that is really nice also.

[a_mattison]

I will neither confirm nor deny whether or not I have copied music in a less than legal fashion in the ...uh.... past.

[disneyjoe7]

Maybe if you get caught selling reproduced copies.

Sorry but I feel that's just wrong. Victor did the right thing. Not saying it's illegal if you copy a CD for your self, but handing it to a friend, neighbor, or family member is just wrong.

Funny I must look like I had 3 heads the day this came up with a niece and nephew one day. But they never asked me again. ;)

[hearingimpared]

Sorry but I feel that's just wrong. Victor did the right thing. Not saying it's illegal if you copy a CD for your self, but handing it to a friend, neighbor, or family member is just wrong.

Funny I must look like I had 3 heads the day this came up with a niece and nephew one day. But they never asked me again. ;)

I'm of the same opinion. I've had arguements with my wife when people tried to give my younger son copied CDs or DVDs and I would insist that he give them back cause I always thought it was steeling. One time in my life I made a copy of a CD set and gave it to someone. It was of a CD set that was stolen when my condo was burglarized back in 1997 and I felt that I had paid for it and wanted to give it away to a friend and couldn't cause I didn't have it anymore. Maybe I rationalized but I did it.

[disneyjoe7]

It just taking money from the artist, producer, whom ever. IMHO

[hearingimpared]

Some would argue the record companies but what difference would that make?

[schwarcw]

I don't mind burning a copy to see if I like something. If I like it, I'll usually buy it. If not, then I'll spend the money to buy someone else's music. In the end, the record labels get the same amount of money from me.

[halo]

Did not mean to start a debate on the subject :o

I prefer to have the original CD's, if at all possible.

Not saying making copies is a bad thing - If I borrow a friend's back up copy, and I like the stuff, I'll buy the CD(s) from the artist. Those sound snippets at amazon or yourmusic don't convey jack IMO.

I still want a detailed explanation of how H9 & a_mattison made such great compilation discs. ;) :)

[hearingimpared]

Did not mean to start a debate on the subject :o

I prefer to have the original CD's, if at all possible.

Not saying making copies is a bad thing - If I borrow a friend's back up copy, and I like the stuff, I'll buy the CD(s) from the artist. Those sound snippets at amazon or yourmusic don't convey jack IMO.

I still want a detailed explanation of how H9 & a_mattison made such great compilation discs. ;) :)

No debate from this end, just my view on the subject. . . I'm not judging anyone either.

[Ricardo]

Can we pretend I never started this? :o

Let's resume the fest matters.....when are the pictures going to be in the showcase????

[a_mattison]

I still want a detailed explanation of how H9 & a_mattison made such great compilation discs. ;) :)

H9's method is slightly different than mine. I maintain a lossless file library in I-tunes. Then you can burn any playlist that you would like. The apple lossless files even maintain HDCD content. I can't tell the difference between the original and a CD burnt from lossless.

[heiney9]

H9's method is slightly different than mine. I maintain a lossless file library in I-tunes. Then you can burn any playlist that you would like. The apple lossless files even maintain HDCD content. I can't tell the difference between the original and a CD burnt from lossless.

Mine also maintain the HDCD. I'll give a lesson, it's really pretty easy. Kind of time consuming picking, choosing & ripping. The actual burning takes very little time. The key is using Exact Audio Copy (EAC) for ripping. It's really all in the ripping of tracks. More later....................

[MikeC78]

Interesting to say the least...

I'm sure some of you guys never drive over the speed limit either?

[hearingimpared]

Interesting to say the least...

I'm sure some of you guys never drive over the speed limit either?

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Yeah I do and I can tell you it costs more than a CD!!! LOL

[halo]

Can we pretend I never started this? :o

Let's resume the fest matters.....when are the pictures going to be in the showcase????
I'm working on it - if anyone else (Aaron, Brock, Michael, Doug, Kevin????) has photos they'd like to submit for the showcase please upload to a photobucket acct. and send me the link ASAP. For now I'm going ahead with what I've got from what Jessica, Rich, and Ricardo shot.

[heiney9]

Halo, I know you sent me an email about photo's and I just haven't gotten around to answering it. I didn't have a camera with me so I have no photo's to contribute. So post away :D

H9

[halo]

Thanks H9 - I'm working on it, I swear! ;) :D

[a_mattison]

Interesting to say the least...

I'm sure some of you guys never drive over the speed limit either?

I always drive over the speed limit.

[heiney9]

I always drive over the speed limit.

I thought the posted speed was a suggested speed :eek:

[dkg999]

Speed limits are for those that need them ;)

[McLoki]

I'm sure some of you guys never drive over the speed limit either?
I have heard from a reliable source that SCompRacer always travels on public roads at 33 1/3MPH reguardless of the speed limit. Whether on prinipal or protest, we are not sure....

Michael

[SCompRacer]

I have heard from a reliable source that SCompRacer always travels on public roads at 33 1/3MPH reguardless of the speed limit. Whether on prinipal or protest, we are not sure....

Michael



WWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

I do confess that I had to exceed that limit more than once to keep up with Jessica and Victor.;) :D

[MikeC78]

We have a LOT of law breakers around here, but surely enough some of us will not burn a damn CD.:D

[halo]

WWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

I do confess that I had to exceed that limit more than once to keep up with Jessica and Victor.;) :DYou meant to say Jessica, right? I was the one telling her to SLOW DOWN! If I didn't we would've been in Bloomington an hour before you ;)

[halo]

We have a LOT of law breakers around here, but surely enough some of us will not burn a damn CD.:D
the RIAA is watching :eek: :rolleyes:

[hearingimpared]

We have a LOT of law breakers around here, but surely enough some of us will not burn a damn CD.:D

Damn it you've convinced me. . . I'm burning CD and flipping them outside to the drivers of the speeding automobiles outside my house!!!:D :D :D

[halo]

Damn it you've convinced me. . . I'm burning CD and flipping them outside to the drivers of the speeding automobiles outside my house!!!:D :D :DLP's make better throwing instruments than CD's :eek: :D

[hearingimpared]

LP's make better throwing instruments than CD's :eek: :D

Blasphany!!! Blasphamy!!!

[halo]

OK everybody, pics are up in the showcase under Chicagoland PF (http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showcase/view.php?userid=80719).

Let me know what you think.

If anything is inaccurate or I need to add or subtract send me an email.

Enjoy!

[a_mattison]

I just re-cabled and replaced my...Uh....Radio Shack IC's to my ADCOM with the Signal Cable IC's from Polkfest.

John K can bite my ass. The sound stage opened up and imaging has improved. (which has been bothering me since the Polkfest after listening to the LSI's and the SDA's)

Thanks again Frank!!!!!!!!

[heiney9]

I just re-cabled and replaced my...Uh....Radio Shack IC's to my ADCOM with the Signal Cable IC's from Polkfest.

John K can bite my ass. The sound stage opened up and imaging has improved. (which has been bothering me since the Polkfest after listening to the LSI's and the SDA's)

Thanks again Frank!!!!!!!!

I just did the same thing Aaron and I'm not sure I like the results yet. A lot more energy up top, I'm sure they'll break-in nicely in 20-40 hours. It's quite a difference, and you are correct the soundstage has opened up as well as the bass is a bit firmer, and John K can bite my ass too (when he's done with yours :D ) and again thanks to Frank.

H9

[a_mattison]

I just did the same thing Aaron and I'm not sure I like the results yet. A lot more energy up top, I'm sure they'll break-in nicely in 20-40 hours. It's quite a difference, and you are correct the soundstage has opened up as well as the bass is a bit firmer, and John K can bite my ass too (when he's done with yours :D ) and again thanks to Frank.

H9

Wow, our ears must be trained the same. I was just thinking the same thing (tighter bass and a lil' more up top) before I read this point. I happy with the top end. I was thinking that something was missing in my system. Vocals sound a bit more natural.

...Oh...I'm not trying to be a smart ass...but... Do the cables really burn in, or were you being smart?

I'm going to have to recalibrate my HT now. The new IC's are only going from my HK to the ADCOM for LH and RH. I don't have a sound meter, but I've got the HK about 3db lower than I did before for comfortable listening now. Does that make sense? My HT's going to be all hosed up.

[halo]

Signal Cable reccomends 50 hours for burn in.

[a_mattison]

Signal Cable reccomends 50 hours for burn in.

Hmmm.... Just tapped a new keg of Belgian White, weather is crappy, Monday is a vacation day...... I've got time.

[MikeC78]

OK everybody, pics are up in the showcase under Chicagoland PF (http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showcase/view.php?userid=80719).

Let me know what you think.

If anything is inaccurate or I need to add or subtract send me an email.

Enjoy!

Looks good Victor...

Besides the pics of me and my fat gut!:o I can't believe how much weight I gained since I've seperated the military. To bad Aaron doesn't live closer, I need a gym partner now!

[a_mattison]

Looks good Victor...

Besides the pics of me and my fat gut!:o I can't believe how much weight I gained since I've seperated the military. To bad Aaron doesn't live closer, I need a gym partner now!

I'm feelin a little chubby myself, bro. I've been traveling a lot lately and the road hasn't been kind. Too many beers and burgers at the bars at the end of the day. We took the dogs for a walk yesterday and I felt like I worked out at the end.

You look ok to me, anyway (in a manly, non-homosexual way....not that there's anything wrong with that) Just get up and do a road march every morning or something. I'm the one who's eating in every damn picture.

[heiney9]

Nice work Victor. I hate myself in photos'......I like being in the sweet spot, but not in photo's. Thank god I'm not a model I would have off'd myself a long time ago :D

H9

[halo]

We are always harder on ourselves than anyone else. You are your worst critic. Don't sweat it - everybody looks fine. Besides no one is looking at us - they're looking at all the gear ;) :p :D

[a_mattison]

.....I just can't get the smile off my face from these cables....seriously. I had no idea.....(keep in mind I was using really cheap cables a couple hours ago.)

[halo]

Guess this means you'll be calling Frank on Tuesday?

[a_mattison]

Guess this means you'll be calling Frank on Tuesday?

I'll be doing the "I'm not worthy" bow on his front steps.

Really, it's amazing as much as I've learned from all you guys in the last 9 or 10 months. The incremental gains that every new piece has added to my system is amazing. Plus I had no idea of the synergies that are necessary between different equipment to get the sound you really want. This hobby is crazy addictive.

[SCompRacer]

Oh you guys...didn't you know all well-designed interconnects sound identical?:rolleyes: :D

I gave up on my middle section. Fat needs a home too.

Nice job on the Showcase pics Victor!

[reeltrouble1]

Yepper................and yea, cables don't matter.

RT1

[hearingimpared]

Awesome job on the pics in the showcase Vic!!! Thanks for the airtime on the Clamp, I know Richie did a bang up job on explaining the finer details on its inner workings.

BTW when I saw the picture of the Spacedeck with the LP on it, I ID'd the record as Dire Straits "Brothers in Arms" 180 gm pressing. The next picture verified my suspicions. . . damn I need to get out more often!!

One complaint on the pics though, who the hell wants to look at your ugly mugs when there are beautiful women and gear in the area!!! More pics of the wives are in order here man!!!

[a_mattison]

Awesome job on the pics in the showcase Vic!!! Thanks for the airtime on the Clamp, I know Richie did a bang up job on explaining the finer details on its inner workings.

BTW when I saw the picture of the Spacedeck with the LP on it, I ID'd the record as Dire Straits "Brothers in Arms" 180 gm pressing. The next picture verified my suspicions. . . damn I need to get out more often!!

If you need a sales director to push your goods, Rich is the man. He almost had me writing a check for one and I don't own one LP or a TT for that matter. (and I am also way to lazy for vinyl)

[hearingimpared]

If you need a sales director to push your goods, Rich is the man. He almost had me writing a check for one and I don't own one LP or a TT for that matter. (and I am also way to lazy for vinyl)

That is very funny!!! I know Richie, he has more knowledge about everything in that head than one man should have. . . he's an effing genius, and his hands are as good as his head!!! I'm surprised he hasn't modified and improved the Clamp yet!!!:D

PS: you are too young to be lazy yet!!! LOL

[opus]

Ever since my battle with Anorexia I have been doing much better:D



My wife looked at the pics and said " Oh great, I'm married to the fat one"




Nice

[hearingimpared]

Ever since my battle with Anorexia I have been doing much better:D



My wife looked at the pics and said " Oh great, I'm married to the fat one"




Nice

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA don't feel bad, this past year has seen me fall into the "Fat Bastard" category!!!

[halo]

Awesome job on the pics in the showcase Vic!!! Thanks for the airtime on the Clamp, I know Richie did a bang up job on explaining the finer details on its inner workings. Thanks & no problem.

BTW when I saw the picture of the Spacedeck with the LP on it, I ID'd the record as Dire Straits "Brothers in Arms" 180 gm pressing. The next picture verified my suspicions. . . damn I need to get out more often!!Yes, you do ;) :p :D

One complaint on the pics though, who the hell wants to look at your ugly mugs when there are beautiful women and gear in the area!!! More pics of the wives are in order here man!!!I can only post what I was given Joe :)

[halo]

Ever since my battle with Anorexia I have been doing much better:D



My wife looked at the pics and said " Oh great, I'm married to the fat one"




NiceJeez-a-lou! You guys (Mike, Aaron, & Kevin) sound like a bunch of chicks with this "I'm fat" shite. Yer guys for gosh sakes. :rolleyes:

[SCompRacer]

Joe, when "The Clamp" isn't on the table, or it travels to another location, it rests in this custom foam lined case. How 'bout dat for first class treatment!:D

[hearingimpared]

Joe, when "The Clamp" isn't on the table, or it travels to another location, it rests in this custom foam lined case. How 'bout dat for first class treatment!:D

I'm gonna ask you one more time damn it, Will you marry me?:D

That is way too cool! Maybe I should make a nice box for them instead of those cheezy cardboard cartons I have for them.

BTW I think your Zerodust needs to be cleaned, I can see the little black heads that form on it in that picture. Me and Ted have a running joke with that stylus cleaner, "when it looks like the forehead of a teenager with blackheads it time to clean it!"

[schwarcw]

Joe, when "The Clamp" isn't on the table, or it travels to another location, it rests in this custom foam lined case. How 'bout dat for first class treatment!:D


That's first class!

[SCompRacer]

That's first class!


My wife says I ain't got no class!:confused: :p :D

I swapped the two Sonicaps out of my pre amp so I am all MWI Teflon film and foil. Oh boy, another 400 hours to go.....

[hearingimpared]

My wife says I ain't got no class!:confused: :p :D

I swapped the two Sonicaps out of my pre amp so I am all MWI Teflon film and foil. Oh boy, another 400 hours to go.....

I found out from Jesse yesterday that it takes 200 hours to break in the crossovers after I do the Sonic Cap and Mill resistor upgrades. That's 8+ days of not listening to the rig. . . I'll loose my mind!!! I'm gonna have to loop a cd for 8.3333333333333 days!

400 hours . . . 16.6666666666666666666666666666 days and that's if you can keep an LP going continuously!!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA my goodness that's an awful thought.

[SCompRacer]

400 hours . . . 16.6666666666666666666666666666 days and that's if you can keep an LP going continuously!!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA my goodness that's an awful thought.

Oh, uh, yeah, about the burn in....:D

I'm gonna get me one of them automatic record players that you can stack LP's on the spindle.:eek: :eek: :eek:

[hearingimpared]

Oh, uh, yeah, about the burn in....:D

I'm gonna get me one of them automatic record players that you can stack LP's on the spindle.:eek: :eek: :eek:

Well you'll be able to use the clamp on that too, you will notice that I took that into consideration in the design of the collet. A stacking spindle will fit right through the entire body of the collet.

[heiney9]

I got to thinking about this burn in thing. The Signal Cables have to burn in for about 50 hours. Does music have to be playing or can the rig just be powered up like mine has been for 3-4 days straight? There has to be a small amount of electron flow while the rig is just idling, correct? Aren't the cables burning in by just having the system powered up and eveything connected?

Perhaps I've just been doing to much thinking this Memorial Day weekend :p . I swear the Signal Cables sound a lot better than they did 2 days ago when I put them in the system. In total I only have about 6-8 hours of actual music playing, but the system has been pwered up since Thursday night.

Any thoughts about this?

H9

[Ricardo]

Victor, thanks for posting the pics.

[halo]

Does music have to be playing or can the rig just be powered up like mine has been for 3-4 days straight?Any thoughts about this?

H9Music has to be playing :)

[halo]

Victor, thanks for posting the pics.

No problem :)

Where've you been?

[BlueMDPicker]

Wow! Love the smiles...what a great time that surely was. Thanks for the pics!

[hearingimpared]

I got to thinking about this burn in thing. The Signal Cables have to burn in for about 50 hours. Does music have to be playing or can the rig just be powered up like mine has been for 3-4 days straight? There has to be a small amount of electron flow while the rig is just idling, correct? Aren't the cables burning in by just having the system powered up and eveything connected?

Perhaps I've just been doing to much thinking this Memorial Day weekend :p . I swear the Signal Cables sound a lot better than they did 2 days ago when I put them in the system. In total I only have about 6-8 hours of actual music playing, but the system has been pwered up since Thursday night.

Any thoughts about this?

H9

I keep my rig powered up 24 x 7 unless a thunderstorm is brewing or I am making a change. When I check the amperage being drawn on my power center, when everything is idle it is pulling 2.2 amps. When I am playing music that varies and I've had it up to 4.4 amps which is ear bleeding loud. I dont' think that is the actual amperage being drawn but a display of amperage. I'm wondering . . . if the speakers are not showing a varying load to the amps if there is anything flowing other than just a complete circuit flow. I would imagine that would be the same with IC. . .they are completing a circuit and something has to be flowing.

If anyone can set me straight on this I would appreciate it.

[Billm57]

how does one get involved in one of these? what do you all do at them? im in the chicagoland area and would love to attend the next one to meet some people from the forum who are in the area

[halo]

how does one get involved in one of these? what do you all do at them? im in the chicagoland area and would love to attend the next one to meet some people from the forum who are in the area

BILL,

Start reading from the 1st post (http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45956) in this thread.

Then go to this thread: link (http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49977)

Finish with this: link (http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showcase/view.php?userid=80719)

Since this just ended I don't see an official fest happening until next year but that does not mean that a local GTG is out of the question. :)

[Billm57]

sounds cool..id be more than happy to supply bbq for the next one..i do bbq competitions all summer so i always have some on hand..
ill keep checking the forum

[engtaz]

Host one and they will come? LOL

[a_mattison]

sounds cool..id be more than happy to supply bbq for the next one..i do bbq competitions all summer so i always have some on hand..
ill keep checking the forum

Next weekend, you say? I'll be there.... and I'll have chicken. :D :eek:

[opus]

how does one get involved in one of these? what do you all do at them? im in the chicagoland area and would love to attend the next one to meet some people from the forum who are in the area

Bill:D :D Come on Bill , 633 posts and over 10,000 views and you missed it.

Could just be the beer talking but that is funny to me.;)

Hope to see you next time, kevin

ps: please note the smilies, as this post is for amusement purposes only

[engtaz]

Did you forget that someone forgot about it and missied it already? LOL

[Billm57]

Bill:D :D Come on Bill , 633 posts and over 10,000 views and you missed it.

Could just be the beer talking but that is funny to me.;)

Hope to see you next time, kevin

ps: please note the smilies, as this post is for amusement purposes only

i dont normally look in the events forum ..saw some pics of it in the system showcase which led me to the thread...
as for chicken..go to the Col..im talking authentic bbq ! :)

[Ricardo]

Got my T-shirt today; THANKS POLK!!!!!!!


P.S. Still waiting for the Isonic ;)

[halo]

Got my T-shirt today; THANKS POLK!!!!!!!


P.S. Still waiting for the Isonic ;)Got our shirts too! :)

Thanks Paul!!!

I spoke to Paul and the shirts went out before your I-Sonic. It'll be there soon Ricardo ;) :)

[MikeC78]

Where's my T-shirt?:(

I'll give Polk one more day, damnit!:mad: :p

[dkg999]

No shirt here either! It must be taking extra long for the ink from Matt Polk's signature to dry before they can ship it ;)

[heiney9]

No shirt here today either. If it doesn't come in the next 3 days I'm selling all my Polks and buying Bose :mad: .


























NOT! I can wait for my T

H9

[halo]

Regarding the shirts:

I just called Paul DiComo and got his voicemail. Left a message, sent a PM, as well as an email.

Give him a call folks! 800-377-7655

or

Send him an email! pdicomo at polkaudio dot com

Its the least we can do to show our appreciation! :)

Hope I spelled your names right and addresses too - some of you write like a chicken scratches :confused: :p ;) :D

fyi - They aren't t-shirts, they're really nice polo shirts.

[MikeC78]

Regarding the shirts:



fyi - They aren't t-shirts, they're really nice polo shirts.

:eek: Nice! Thanks Victor, you ruined the surprise.:( :p

[halo]

Ricardo said t-shirt, I said polo.

Who knows what your going to get :confused:

Could be a tank top, sleeveless t, maybe even some assless chaps :eek:

[Ricardo]

Well, mine was actually a very nice leather jacket....

[heiney9]

I'm expecting a cool 70's style POLK leisure suit :p .

[MikeC78]

Polk sent me a kevlar helmet?:(

Received my nice polo today, thank you Polk!:)

[dkg999]

Got my shirt today! Very nice Polo shirt! Unfortunately Matt Polk must of signed it with black marker, because I'm having trouble finding his signature :rolleyes:

[MikeC78]

Anyone get the assless chaps? Aaron?:)

[a_mattison]

Anyone get the assless chaps? Aaron?:)

Oh boy am I hoping!!!!!;)

[hearingimpared]

Anyone get the assless chaps? Aaron?:)

I just pictured Vida Gurrea with them on!!!! I'M OUT!!!:D

[MikeC78]

I just pictured Vida Gurrea with them on!!!! I'M OUT!!!:D

:eek: Don't we wish!!

[McLoki]

I got some regular chaps and just cut the seat out of them. (does that count?)

Thanks to Polk Audio for the fine gear (and wardrobe).

Michael

[opus]

Wow, what a great shirt.

This does mean that I am deputized as an official of Polk Audio right?

I am off to American Electronics to have a little talk with them about placement and proper Lsi amplification:p


Thanks again Polk

[hearingimpared]

Wow, what a great shirt.

This does mean that I am deputized as an official of Polk Audio right?

I am off to American Electronics to have a little talk with them about placement and proper Lsi amplification:p


Thanks again Polk

Pics please?

[a_mattison]

Woo Hoo!!!! I got the assless chaps. I'll post pictures in a little bit.

[dkg999]

Ummmm ........... maybe you should have Michele model them ;)

[heiney9]

Dammit no package in the mail today :( . It seems I must be on the last leg of the pony express. I wanted to wear mine to a golf outing on Sunday. Well there is always tomorrow.

H9

[a_mattison]

Ummmm ........... maybe you should have Michele model them ;)

Oh....I thought they were for me, but they sure seem a little small. hmmmm.......Wonder if I could get her to wear them.??? ....Then again, maybe I could squeeze into them.

[a_mattison]

Dammit no package in the mail today :( . It seems I must be on the last leg of the pony express. I wanted to wear mine to a golf outing on Sunday. Well there is always tomorrow.

H9

You can borrow my assless chaps...

[dkg999]

Manly men don't share their assless chaps :eek: That's just wrong!

[a_mattison]

Ok....i can't take it anymore... I'm putting my assless chaps (not signed by Matthew Polk) on craig's list....

http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sfo/43708267.html

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[halo]

Dammit no package in the mail today :( . It seems I must be on the last leg of the pony express. I wanted to wear mine to a golf outing on Sunday. Well there is always tomorrow.

H9
They heard about the killer deal you got on those 1C's and feel that a polo shirt (on top of that) would be overkill. They also noticed that you were hogging the sweet spot in darn near every picture so...NO SHIRT FOR YOU! NEXT!!! ;) :p :D

[engtaz]

Ok....i can't take it anymore... I'm putting my assless chaps (not signed by Matthew Polk) on craig's list....

http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sfo/43708267.html

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That ain't right:eek:

[a_mattison]

That ain't right:eek:

Yea... Like the sticky comment wasn't enough..... He is willing to trade for Spider man comics?!?!?! That's funny s*&t!

[heiney9]

You can all rest easy now I finally got my Polk polo shirt on Monday of this week :D . Thanks Polk.

H9

[halo]

:cool: I thought I mistranslated your addy.

[MikeC78]

Good news!!!:)

Now, I can sleep at night.

[heiney9]

Good news!!!:)

Now, I can sleep at night.

That's mainly why I posted it Mike. I surely want all the buds I met at PF to finally rest easy and take a load off their minds. :D

[halo]

Don't think there's going to be another Chicagoland / Illinois PF period in '08 unless we can find a host. Mike is out of country until??? Anyone else want to host a Chicagoland, Chicagoarea, Illinois Polkfest in '08?

[hearingimpared]

Don't think there's going to be another Chicagoland / Illinois PF period in '08 unless we can find a host. Mike is out of country until??? Anyone else want to host a Chicagoland, Chicagoarea, Illinois Polkfest in '08?

If you guys don't mind coming here we can Chicagoland PF here!!!:D:p

[tonyb]

Hell,Joe.....we were thinking of flying you in to do all the cooking bro.
Can you do that shrimp scampi for 20 people?

[MikeC78]

Don't think there's going to be another Chicagoland / Illinois PF period in '08 unless we can find a host. Mike is out of country until??? Anyone else want to host a Chicagoland, Chicagoarea, Illinois Polkfest in '08?

Hello everyone!

Sorry guys, I have a lot going when I get back in May. Wife is due to have another baby, and the house might be under partial construction during that time period. Should be home again sometime late in the new year, maybe we can get something going then? I'll keep you guys posted...

Mike

[halo]

Good to hear from you Mike!

Congrats on the impending arrival :) May babies are the best!

Hope all is well with both of you. All the best in the new year!

[dkg999]

Mike - congrats and stay safe. I appreciate the sacrifices you are making for us all.

Halo - I agree that we need to find a location for another Chicagoland PF. Unfortunately it's going to be late in '08 for me to have a house we could have it at. We should start thinking about locations.

[hearingimpared]

Hell,Joe.....we were thinking of flying you in to do all the cooking bro.
Can you do that shrimp scampi for 20 people?

With my eyes closed and one hand tied behind my back. But then you guys would have to do all the prep work.:D

[hearingimpared]

Hello everyone!

Sorry guys, I have a lot going when I get back in May. Wife is due to have another baby, and the house might be under partial construction during that time period. Should be home again sometime late in the new year, maybe we can get something going then? I'll keep you guys posted...

Mike

Hey Mike!

Hope this finds you well and safe. Thanks so much for your sacrifices and service.