The CLAMP - Official Swap Thread

[amulford]

OK. By popular demand we are going to have a little swap for The Clamp.

For those of you who don't know what The Clamp is, PLEASE READ THIS THREAD (http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47286).


The ground rules are simple.

1) Post your name IN THIS THREAD if you want to participate in the swap. Then PM me with your usual information. Your name will be listed in the order it appears.

2) When you receive The Clamp, you have THREE (3) WEEKS to play around with it. You will receive the shipping address of the next person in line to demo it. The cost of shipping it on will be on you.

3) Post your thoughts and findings in this thread. The whole point of this swap is for you and others to be able to check it out. You might want to, but others may gain interest based on what you say. so say it...

4) Use it as explained in the directions. If you break it, you bought it. If you do break it, let Joe know immediately, he might be able to save your turntable...

Pretty easy, huh?

Check it out. You will be surprised...



THE LIST

1) candyliquor35m (carl)

2) Fireman32 (Dave)

3) Frank Z

4) wodom1

5) Polrbehr

6) Shoester5

7) DarqueKnight

8)

9)

10)

[candyliquor35m]

1) candyliquor35m (carl)

[Fireman32]

Fireman32 (Dave)

[amulford]

Damn, nobody wants to try this thing out???

[Frank Z]

Sure, I'll give it a spin.

[miner]

I pick up my Rega P5 thisweekend. After setting up TT I'll add my name to the list. Can't wait.

[joeparaski]

I ain't tryin', I'm buyin'.

Joe

[hearingimpared]

I'll be shipping The Clamp out to Carl Monday afternoon barring anymore friggin emergencies in my new home.

[schwarcw]

I got mine yesterday and I was amazed. The dynamic range and imaging were the big surprise to me. I kinda expected a little more detail. Overall this was a noticeable improvement on my vintage Marantz 6300 turntable and very modest Audio Technica cartridge. I was impressed. I have less than an hour's worth of time listening to the vinyl, so I will continue to listen and report again. I am anxious to hear the feedback from other user's. I think you will be surprised.

Carl

[wodom1]

Add me to the list, please. Thanks.

[polrbehr]

Hell yeah, I'll give it a go.

I just resurrected my old TT since I stumbled upon a milk crate full of vinyl

that I haven't heard in 15 years.

:cool:

[shoester5]

I would like to be added to the list also.

Thanks

[hearingimpared]

I have ten left.

[ben62670]

I would love to try the clamp. I don't have a TT so please send a TT with it so I can do a fair analysis. I have about 200 albums at my disposal here and no TT. Repeat please send TT. I gave mine away about 10 years ago (grrrrrrrrrr). If you can't send TT please through a brick at me for giving mine away.

Thanks Ben

[danger boy]

I would love to try the clamp. I don't have a TT so please send a TT with it so I can do a fair analysis. I have about 200 albums at my disposal here and no TT. Repeat please send TT. I gave mine away about 10 years ago (grrrrrrrrrr). If you can't send TT please through a brick at me for giving mine away.

Thanks Ben


pick up a turntable on the cheap in your area... they are everywhre.. but i have started to notice.. people are starting to jack up the prices now. now that they know vinyl is making a comeback stronger than ever. ;)

[ben62670]

I need to place a post on TTs. My budget is nill right now. so I will be looking for one of those mass produced models that just happens to be a good sounding TT on the cheap. With all those great albums it kills me not to have a TT.
Thanks
Ben

[polrbehr]

I need to place a post on TTs. My budget is nill right now. so I will be looking for one of those mass produced models that just happens to be a good sounding TT on the cheap. With all those great albums it kills me not to have a TT.
Thanks
Ben

I have a TT, but not many albums (gave most of MINE away... toss that brick my way when you're done with it).
Send as many albums to me as you can, and I'll let you know how they sound as I listen to them. :D :D

[candyliquor35m]

Sign up guys and gals. You won't be disappointed. I was a doubter otherwise I would have bought one outright but now I'm a believer. It makes my modest tt sound fabulous. I found myself standing listening in amazement. The music jumps out at me now with crispness and precision and little or no distortion or background noise. Thanks Joe and Anthony. I plan to ship it to Dave today. Yes I will be buying one.

I posted a pic here:
http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47286&page=3

[Fireman32]

Cool beans looking foward to getting it and trying it out. I'm sure once I try it I will have to buy it.

[DarqueKnight]

I would like to be added to the list.

[Fireman32]

Just got the clamp in the mail today. Cant wait to try it out. Will post review shortly.

[pblanc]

Please add me to the list. My Dual CS 630Q seems to have given up the ghost, saddly, but I just bought a used Technics SL1210 MK2 (the quintessential DJ TT) and I am awaiting delivery. I assume the clamp will work with that table?

[hearingimpared]

Please add me to the list. My Dual CS 630Q seems to have given up the ghost, saddly, but I just bought a used Technics SL1210 MK2 (the quintessential DJ TT) and I am awaiting delivery. I assume the clamp will work with that table?


If it has a spindle and a platter it will work.:D

[pblanc]

How exactly does the clamp "clamp" down onto the washer(s)?

[hearingimpared]

How exactly does the clamp "clamp" down onto the washer(s)?


You place the shim ("washer") over the spindle, there are three different thicknesses of shims. Place an LP on the spindle overtop of the shim. Place the clamp onto the spindle on top of the record. When you turn the cap, the collet closes on the spindle and pulls on it upwards, at the same time the perimeter of the base of the clamp which has a rounded nib exerts downward force on the record label which cause the record to take the shape of the platter which causes intimate contact with the platter thus causing maximum warp removal. Clear yes?

Joe

[Fireman32]

Well I got the clamp but I threw out my back this weekend so di not get to do alot with it but all I can say is WOW. It got rid of all of the backround noise and got improved soundstage. Joe you make an amazing product and I look foward to testing it out a little more. I will definitly be buying one from you.

Dave

[Fireman32]

Well I got to give the clamp a good demo today. Joe you make a great product man. It gets rid of all of the backround niose and records that did not sound too good are now sounding great. The difference in the sound was unbelievable. Every record now sounds 10 times better with this baby on it. Joe I will be buying one from you one i get some extra funds together. Hats off to Joe.

Dave

[hearingimpared]

OK. By popular demand we are going to have a little swap for The Clamp.

For those of you who don't know what The Clamp is, PLEASE READ THIS THREAD (http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47286).


The ground rules are simple.

1) Post your name IN THIS THREAD if you want to participate in the swap. Then PM me with your usual information. Your name will be listed in the order it appears.

2) When you receive The Clamp, you have THREE (3) WEEKS to play around with it. You will receive the shipping address of the next person in line to demo it. The cost of shipping it on will be on you.

3) Post your thoughts and findings in this thread. The whole point of this swap is for you and others to be able to check it out. You might want to, but others may gain interest based on what you say. so say it...

4) Use it as explained in the directions. If you break it, you bought it. If you do break it, let Joe know immediately, he might be able to save your turntable...

Pretty easy, huh?

Check it out. You will be surprised...



THE LIST

1) candyliquor35m (carl)

2) Fireman32 (Dave)

3) Frank Z

4) wodom1

5) Polrbehr

6) Shoester5

7) DarqueKnight

8)

9)

10)


Due to circumstances beyond his controll Antny isn't going to be able to manage this swap until further notice. I'm going to take over until Antny can get back. Please let me know if you would like to be added to the list.

Thanks,
Joe

[hearingimpared]

OK. By popular demand we are going to have a little swap for The Clamp.

For those of you who don't know what The Clamp is, PLEASE READ THIS THREAD (http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47286).


The ground rules are simple.

1) Post your name IN THIS THREAD if you want to participate in the swap. Then PM me with your usual information. Your name will be listed in the order it appears.

2) When you receive The Clamp, you have THREE (3) WEEKS to play around with it. You will receive the shipping address of the next person in line to demo it. The cost of shipping it on will be on you.

3) Post your thoughts and findings in this thread. The whole point of this swap is for you and others to be able to check it out. You might want to, but others may gain interest based on what you say. so say it...

4) Use it as explained in the directions. If you break it, you bought it. If you do break it, let Joe know immediately, he might be able to save your turntable...

Pretty easy, huh?

Check it out. You will be surprised...



THE LIST

1) candyliquor35m (carl)

2) Fireman32 (Dave)

3) Frank Z

4) wodom1

5) Polrbehr

6) Shoester5

7) DarqueKnight

8) pblanc

9) Strider

10)

[hearingimpared]

Well I got the clamp but I threw out my back this weekend so did not get to do alot with it but all I can say is WOW.
Dave


Dude you should bend your knees when you go to pick up the clamp.:D

[Fireman32]

It is a heavy piece. I shall be shipping out to Frank Z during the week and calling you Joe to see about buying one.

[Frank Z]

Got it out of the mailbox this AM. I'll give a listen and post my thoughts in the next couple of days.

[miner]

Any Rega P5 users try it yet? Will it clamp to the short Rega spindles?

[hearingimpared]

Any Rega P5 users try it yet? Will it clamp to the short Rega spindles?


It should work on the Rega P5. If you can post a good picture of it I'll be able to tell by looking at. THis clamp was designed to get a tenacious grip on even the shortest of spindles. If after you place a shim and record on the spindle there is any spindle above the record surface the clamp will grab it.

[reeltrouble1]

Miner,

I have the P-25, same thing basically as the P-5. Yes, The Clamp, works just fine with the Rega spindle, I give it a hearty thumbs up, get one while you can.

RT1

[Frank Z]

I’d like to start out by saying that I’ve never been a fan of audio widgets and have found most of them to be nothing more than snake oil designed to separate the listener from their hard-earned coinage. Search some of my past posts and you’ll get the picture.

Far too often there are few practical improvements to be made to tried and true music reproduction methods. Let’s face facts here folks, a turn table is a nothing more than a really old method of reproducing music. Certainly there are levels of music quality that lower end pieces of equipment simply can’t reproduce because of their design, quality of components, mass, and of course, proper set up.

With this in mind, read on.

I opted to get in on this little experiment because hearing is believing, or disbelieving…. right? Right! The only true measure of any piece of equipment, new fangled or geezer gear, is in the perception of the listener. Had this been a “Stack 15, circa 1963 uncirculated pennies on your speakers” kinda thing I would have passed it by without a second thought. Obviously this equipment swap is a little bit different. There’s someone’s reputation on the line and that should not be taken lightly, nor should it influence anyone’s opinion.

I should also state that I had not read any other reviewer’s comments. I wanted to do this the right way and not let anyone else’s opinion influence my own. Yeah, I’m kinda anal I suppose…go figure.

So, what the hell was I using to test out The Clamp? Here’s a list of my humble little system

Anthem AVM-20 Preamp
Outlaw Audio 7100 amp
MusicHall MMF-2.1 Turntable
MusicHall Phono-pac
Grado Stylus
Polk Audio Lsi-15’s

I picked a few albums that I felt were good candidates for an A/B shootout. The tracks are in parenthesis.
Foreigner – Double Vision (Hot Blooded)
A definite improvement in the clarity of the vocals and overall soundstage. It was less of a strain to actually place the vocals within the soundstage but the instruments seemed muddy and smeared regardless of the clamp being used.

Bad Company – Desolation Angels (Rock’n’Roll Fantasy)
Pretty surprising results on this cut. The overall affect was pleasant to say the least. Nice change from previous listening sessions with this particular track.


The Police – Ghost in the Machine (Invisible Sun)
Superb improvement in not only vocals but in the overall sound quality as well. I particularly liked the improved bass notes.


Don Henley – Building the Perfect Beast ( All She Wants To Do Is Dance)
The biggest improvements on this track were the female back-up vocals. The harsh, almost grainy sound of their voices was replaced by a more soothing and smooth sound. The steel drums were exceptionally improved and I caught myself pushing my jaw back up to its correct position.

Grover Washington – Winelight (Just the Two of Us)
Hard to improve on this recording but I did note a bit more detail in the mid-ranges. Gotta love Mr. Washington’s talent!

Yes – 90215 (Owner of a Lonely Heart)
This is one the most technically perfect albums I’ve ever heard. The amount of forethought that went into the arrangement and placement of the instruments within the soundstage is sheer brilliance. The improvements were subtle, but audible. Increased clarity and detail.


Pink Floyd – The Wall (Comfortably Numb)
Possibly the greatest album of all time, and one of my favorite PF tunes. I noticed an increased level of bass and slightly brighter highs. It’s difficult for me to say that there was a dramatic improvement because this track always grabs my gut.

Phil Collins – Face Value (In the Air Tonight)
This album is in such poor shape that nothing short of a miracle could help it. Sounds like a Rice Crispies commercial.

So, what’s the bottom line? The clamp can have a positive affect on many, if not all albums, provided that they are in decent condition to begin with. There’s nothing that can make and abused album sound good. Would I recommend this device to the average guy that likes a little background music, absolutely not. No offense if that’s you, but you simply won’t benefit from it.

So who would I recommend it too? Just about anyone that truly enjoys music for what it is. I don’t see this as a gimmicky tweak; I see it as a way to improve the sound quality of the system you currently own. It’s a great addition to an entry level turntable rig or even a mid-level system. High-end folks, can’t help ya. I’d have to defer to some of the more vinyl oriented guru’s here.

So, if there are any left in a couple of months when A/C season is in full swing I’ll buy one.

Seems that I’ve been a bit wordy compared to some of you slackers.

[hearingimpared]

Thanks Frank for a very well thought out, time consuming test and review.

[Frank Z]

I knew it...too long. DAMNIT!

[candyliquor35m]

I knew it...too long. DAMNIT!

I thoroughly enjoyed your review. When it comes to audio, this is the right place to be long winded.

[hearingimpared]

I thoroughly enjoyed your review. When it comes to audio, this is the right place to be long winded.

AMEN!!!

[Frank Z]

Thanks! If I get my fat arse out the door tomorrow the clamp will be on it's merry little way. As much as I'd love to get one right now I simply can't. We're leaving for Moab in a couple of weeks and I can't dip into the vacation fund.

If there's one still available in a few months I'll be all over it like flies on the crap wagon.

[strider]

I would like to be added to the list as well. Just got my TT from the UPS guy today, so I should have some good ear time in when it comes my way.

[hearingimpared]

I would like to be added to the list as well. Just got my TT from the UPS guy today, so I should have some good ear time in when it comes my way.

Done!!!

[Frank Z]

Wodom,
The instructions and the clamp are going in the mail today. The instructions will probably get there a a day or two ahead of the clamp.

[Frank Z]

It's in the mail.

[hearingimpared]

Josh, please let me know that it arrived safely.


Thanks

[Frank Z]

Me too! I insured it for $150, so it's covered if there's any problems.

[hearingimpared]

Josh did you finally get the clamp?

[Frank Z]

hearingimpared,
Check your PM's.

[wodom1]

Hey guys, sorry I never replied to this thread. I've been working some insane hours for the last week and a half. I picked the clamp up at the Post Office yesterday afternoon. Unfortunately, I won't be able to try it out as it doesn't fit on my table, so I'll be forwarding it on to the next person on the list. My table doesn't extend far enough out for me to even use it with the tray open, as the piece the Clamp locks onto is directly under the cover with only about 2" of vertical clearance. Can I get the address of the next member so that I can send it over in the next few days?

[hearingimpared]

Hey guys, sorry I never replied to this thread. I've been working some insane hours for the last week and a half. I picked the clamp up at the Post Office yesterday afternoon. Unfortunately, I won't be able to try it out as it doesn't fit on my table, so I'll be forwarding it on to the next person on the list. My table doesn't extend far enough out for me to even use it with the tray open, as the piece the Clamp locks onto is directly under the cover with only about 2" of vertical clearance. Can I get the address of the next member so that I can send it over in the next few days?

No sweat Josh, I'm sorry it didn't work for you. I sent polrbehr a PM and copied you on it asking for his addy.

[polrbehr]

PMs sent to HI and wodom1.
Looking forward to the demo.

[SCompRacer]

Unfortunately, I won't be able to try it out as it doesn't fit on my table....

Sorry to hear it wouldn't work for you. In regards to your absence, I thought it was like what happened at our house when we received "The Clamp." We all sat around the table looking at it for days, saying something wonderful is going to happen.:D

[hearingimpared]

Sorry to hear it wouldn't work for you. In regards to your absence, I thought it was like what happened at our house when we received "The Clamp." We all sat around the table looking at it for days, saying something wonderful is going to happen.:D

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

What happened???:D :p

[hearingimpared]

OK. By popular demand we are going to have a little swap for The Clamp.

For those of you who don't know what The Clamp is, PLEASE READ THIS THREAD (http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47286).


The ground rules are simple.

1) Post your name IN THIS THREAD if you want to participate in the swap. Then PM me with your usual information. Your name will be listed in the order it appears.

2) When you receive The Clamp, you have THREE (3) WEEKS to play around with it. You will receive the shipping address of the next person in line to demo it. The cost of shipping it on will be on you.

3) Post your thoughts and findings in this thread. The whole point of this swap is for you and others to be able to check it out. You might want to, but others may gain interest based on what you say. so say it...

4) Use it as explained in the directions. If you break it, you bought it. If you do break it, let Joe know immediately, he might be able to save your turntable...

Pretty easy, huh?

Check it out. You will be surprised...



THE LIST

1) candyliquor35m (carl)

2) Fireman32 (Dave)

3) Frank Z

4) wodom1

5) Polrbehr

6) Shoester5

7) DarqueKnight

8) pblanc

9) Strider

10)

Wodom1, Josh, can you clear out your PM box, I'm trying to find out if you sent the clamp to Polrbehr yet. I haven't heard anything since 3/21 and I wondering if there is a problem. Polrbehr if you received the clamp or have had correspondance from Josh please let me know.

Thanks,
Joe

[wodom1]

Wodom1, Josh, can you clear out your PM box, I'm trying to find out if you sent the clamp to Polrbehr yet. I haven't heard anything since 3/21 and I wondering if there is a problem. Polrbehr if you received the clamp or have had correspondance from Josh please let me know.

Thanks,
Joe


I'll be sending it out tomorrow, insured for $150. Work is killing me...can I go back to college so that all I have to worry about is drinking and meeting girls?

[polrbehr]

I'll be sending it out tomorrow, insured for $150. Work is killing me...can I go back to college so that all I have to worry about is drinking and meeting girls?

No sweat here.

Just got my TT up and running again, as a matter of fact!

I'll be on the lookout.

Still got my addy, wodom1?

[wodom1]

No sweat here.

Just got my TT up and running again, as a matter of fact!

I'll be on the lookout.

Still got my addy, wodom1?

Yeah, I've still got your PM. Tonight is the first time I've logged on here in like a week...it's going to take me a while to catch up...

[hearingimpared]

Whew . . . dude I thought you were MIA. Thanks for responding so quickly I was ready put an APB out in the Clubhouse LOL!!!

[wodom1]

Whew . . . dude I thought you were MIA. Thanks for responding so quickly I was ready put an APB out in the Clubhouse LOL!!!


Nah, I've been here for over five years and don't plan on going anywhere. I've been averaging 80 hour weeks for the last month so I'm just worn out.

[hearingimpared]

Nah, I've been here for over five years and don't plan on going anywhere. I've been averaging 80 hour weeks for the last month so I'm just worn out.

I know you've been here a long time, I wasn't worried about you skipping town I was thinking more on the lines of what Antny's going through. I've done those 80 to 100 hours stints, they really knock the heck out of you and it takes a week or two to recover if you do it for any length of time. Heck the money sucks too because all the overtime knocks you into the 45 to 50% bracket.

Hang in there Brother this too shall pass.

[wodom1]

I know you've been here a long time, I wasn't worried about you skipping town I was thinking more on the lines of what Antny's going through. I've done those 80 to 100 hours stints, they really knock the heck out of you and it takes a week or two to recover if you do it for any length of time. Heck the money sucks too because all the overtime knocks you into the 45 to 50% bracket.

Hang in there Brother this too shall pass.

No O/T for me as I'm salaried...Work's not bad, just exhausting...and I'm compensated well so I'll get over it! :D

Now...Back on topic!

[hearingimpared]

No O/T for me as I'm salaried...Work's not bad, just exhausting...and I'm compensated well so I'll get over it! :D

Now...Back on topic!

I hijacked my own thread!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaa:D

[polrbehr]

OK, Joe. I got it today, safe and sound.
The instructions actually arrived yesterday.

I'll try to give it a whirl later.

[hearingimpared]

Good stuff brother, I can't wait to read your impressions.

[wodom1]

OK, Joe. I got it today, safe and sound.
The instructions actually arrived yesterday.

I'll try to give it a whirl later.

Glad to hear it arrived safe and sound. I hope there wasn't any concern about whether it would arrive in any condition other than safe and sound...

[hearingimpared]

Glad to hear it arrived safe and sound. I hope there wasn't any concern about whether it would arrive in any condition other than safe and sound...

I had no doubts Bro.

[polrbehr]

None here either, Josh.

I was simply letting you all know that I got it, in one piece, but had not yet

actually tried it out, is all. Potential destruction during transit is always a

possibility (well, not for THIS thing!); I had not meant it to be a suggestion

that you would do less than whatever it took to ensure safe arrival.

[hearingimpared]

None here either, Josh.

I was simply letting you all know that I got it, in one piece, but had not yet

actually tried it out, is all. Potential destruction during transit is always a

possibility (well, not for THIS thing!); I had not meant it to be a suggestion

that you would do less than whatever it took to ensure safe arrival.

Believe me and ask Fireman Dave. . .the United States Postal Service can and will find a way to break anything including this practically indestructable piece.

[Fireman32]

Believe me and ask Fireman Dave. . .the United States Postal Service can and will find a way to break anything including this practically indestructable piece.

Oh yea they can. Joe shipped me my clamp that I bought after trying it out in the swap. I get it and I cant turn it at all. I took it apart and used all my strength to the point of breaking my hands to try to get it to turn. I took it to the post office to file the claim and they told me it wasn't broken. Oh well Joe the damaged clamp has been shipped to you today and they tell me you should have it on tuesday. I included all of the insurance paperwork so hopefully you will have better luck. Spent a couple of hours today listening with the new clamp and i'm very happy.

[polrbehr]

OK, so I've had the Clamp for two weeks now, and my impressions were both expected and surprising at the same time. I expected that the Clamp would be well-made and perform as advertised, and it did. I was a bit surprised that the differences were almost imperceptable on some tracks. My rig is the likely reason for that, as I am only running a Pioneer PL-2 TT, and my setup is in the basement for now, and until it's finished, it's not the ideal sonic environment, I know.

I tested using selections from Herb Alpert, Sat. Night Fever soundtrack, Journey, Led Zep, The Police, Van Halen, and ZZTop. Two things became apparent right away... my record collection is extremely old and worn (too many "late night listening sessions" in the 80's), and is in need of thorough cleaning due to mold issues from garage storage :( . While the Clamp did seem to lessen some of the scratching/popping/hissing from the tracks I played, I think my tests would have been more effective on less worn-out albums. Shame on me for not taking better care of them.

And, as luck would have it, my TT is now useless, as it constantly goes through an "end of the album" cycle, even though the tonearm is nowhere near the end (?). BTW, any feedback on how I could possibly fix this myself would be appreciated. Or, I will look into having it fixed, or getting another TT once the Eagle sh!ts :D. Interesting experience, though, and Joe makes a well-made product, even if I don't own good enough hardware to truly appreciate its merits.

[hearingimpared]

Thanks Harry for the kind words. I emailed shoester5 as he is next in line. If he doesn't reply by this evening we will go to the next in line who happens to be Darqueknight.

Joe

[hearingimpared]

OK, so I've had the Clamp for two weeks now, and my impressions were both expected and surprising at the same time. I expected that the Clamp would be well-made and perform as advertised, and it did. I was a bit surprised that the differences were almost imperceptable on some tracks. My rig is the likely reason for that, as I am only running a Pioneer PL-2 TT, and my setup is in the basement for now, and until it's finished, it's not the ideal sonic environment, I know.

I tested using selections from Herb Alpert, Sat. Night Fever soundtrack, Journey, Led Zep, The Police, Van Halen, and ZZTop. Two things became apparent right away... my record collection is extremely old and worn (too many "late night listening sessions" in the 80's), and is in need of thorough cleaning due to mold issues from garage storage :( . While the Clamp did seem to lessen some of the scratching/popping/hissing from the tracks I played, I think my tests would have been more effective on less worn-out albums. Shame on me for not taking better care of them.

And, as luck would have it, my TT is now useless, as it constantly goes through an "end of the album" cycle, even though the tonearm is nowhere near the end (?). BTW, any feedback on how I could possibly fix this myself would be appreciated. Or, I will look into having it fixed, or getting another TT once the Eagle sh!ts :D. Interesting experience, though, and Joe makes a well-made product, even if I don't own good enough hardware to truly appreciate its merits.


Harry you can get a new on just like yours for $89 on this site. (http://www.upscale.net/turntabl.htm) But if you are going to spring for a new turntable you can do leaps and bounds better than that for not much more money.

[shoester5]

Thanks Harry for the kind words. I emailed shoester5 as he is next in line. If he doesn't reply by this evening we will go to the next in line who happens to be Darqueknight.

Joe

YES! YES! I'm still very interested in giving the clamp a try. Both hearingimpared and polrbehr check your PM.:)

[hearingimpared]

YES! YES! I'm still very interested in giving the clamp a try. Both hearingimpared and polrbehr check your PM.:)

Did ya get that Harry???

[polrbehr]

Yeah, I should have checked this thread first :o.

It'll be on its way ASAP.



Sent out to shoester5 on 4/23.

PMs to him and Joe.

[polrbehr]

Joe-

Thanks for the link, as well as the TT advise.

I will likely be trying out new tables, and will eventually clean up my modest

collection so that I may enjoy vinyl again.

[hearingimpared]

YES! YES! I'm still very interested in giving the clamp a try. Both hearingimpared and polrbehr check your PM.:)

Dude the USPS just reported that they tried to deliver the clamp to you yesterday and you weren't there. Harry has been PMing you.

Are you still with us???? Please respond to something. The PO will be sending it back to Harry soon. If they do, I think you should pick up the shipping tab to the next guy in line!!! Josh!!!

[candyliquor35m]

Joe's customer service line was open late tonight. I had a feeling it was user error but I wanted to make sure.

After putting the clamp on my albums I could see light between the clamp and the album which is just the opposite of what the clamp is trying to achieve immo. Turns out I wasn't tightening the clamp tight enough. I was tightening about 1/2 turn but Joe advised me that may not be tight enough so I tried 3/4 and that solved the problem.

Thanks Joe.

[hearingimpared]

Joe's customer service line was open late tonight. I had a feeling it was user error but I wanted to make sure.

After putting the clamp on my albums I could see light between the clamp and the album which is just the opposite of what the clamp is trying to achieve immo. Turns out I wasn't tightening the clamp tight enough. I was tightening about 1/2 turn but Joe advised me that may not be tight enough so I tried 3/4 and that solved the problem.

Thanks Joe.

Anytime Bro!

[shoester5]

I was out of town on business and just got back yesterday. I picked the clamp up yesterday from the post office but only had time to try it on a couple of albums. I'll definitely post a well thought review once I had time to check it out fully and will keep all of you informed every step of the way. I appreciate the quick shipping polrbehr.

[shoester5]

Just a quick update on the clamp....I had a chance to listen to a few albums on Thursday and noticed a big improvement. Better separation, wider sound stage, and more predominant defined bass. The first album I tried is a very well used copy of Fleetwood Mac's Rumours with some scratches and slightly warped. The Clamp not only improved the sound but nearly removed the back ground static with almost complete silence between songs. Now, that's just my first impression. I will doing more intense testing in the next couple of days, but I'm impressed with the little time I have spent with the clamp....More to come.

[SCompRacer]

I've owned one of Joe's clamps for quite a while but wasn't happy with my vinyl setup so I never did an A/B. That has changed now. Current gear is listed in sig with the exception of a Boston Audio Design Mat 1 Carbon-Graphite mat on the platter.

Normanality and I are of the opinion that The Clamp enhances the vinyl experience by adding more body or weight to the music for a fuller sound. EDIT: As mentioned, it will help flatten out those warped records for better tracking.

Vinyl Spun:

Robert Palmer - Riptide

Standouts on this album are Addicted To Love The drums are explosive, sharp and pound your senses. I Didn't Mean to Turn You On excellent bass by Bernard Edwards.

Mannheim Steamroller - Fresh Aire IV

G Major Toccata Classical pipe organ and kettle drums can really rock.

[hearingimpared]

Thanks guys!

[doctorg]

Miner:

I have the same Rotel pre and amp you do, and have been considering upgrading from my ancient (but loved) Harman K. T-60 to P-5. would you share your thoughts on this combo??
Thanks,

[miner]

Is the T-60/P-5 a tuner? I do not have a tuner in my setup. I, myself am very happ y with my Rotel setup - great value for the dollar. Many view Rotel as mid-fi. If hi-fi means spending $3XXX/component then let it be know I am very pleased with mid-fi. I started with the Rotel RC-1070/RB-1070 combo and had it for about a year and then the RB-1077/RB-1092 were intorduced as ICEpowered amps. I had followed B&O's ICEpower from the start and ws quite intrigued. I wanted more watts but my current location setup would not allow for heavy/heat dissipating amp. The RB-1092 fit my bill to a tee. Even though the RC-1070 souned great with the new amp I was offered the last in-box RC-1090 that could be found so I jumped on it (still have my RC-1070/RB-1070 - may sell). The new 'combo' just opened up my B&W N804. In fact, if I had not already bought my ASW800 sub it would not be needed. I can't understand why some do not like the 'Rotel class D amps'. They stack up against other costing $XXXX more. Once burned in all is heqavenly (about 100 hrs of use). One other thing to consider, class D amps are not as restricted by line conditioners as class A or A/B amps are.

[doctorg]

T60 is a turntable, just like your new P-5, which I was asking you to comment on...sorry I wasn't more clear.

[hearingimpared]

T60 is a turntable, just like your new P-5, which I was asking you to comment on...sorry I wasn't more clear.

The clamp will work on practically any turntable made. . . there are very few that I've come across that it won't grab the spindle with a tenacious grip and bear down on the record.

[miner]

T60 is a turntable, just like your new P-5, which I was asking you to comment on...sorry I wasn't more clear.

I looked quite ostentiuously when doing my research on TT. I decided on the Rega P5 because of value/$ (Stereophile's 2005 analogue product of the year). With the TT PSU the speed is dead on - something that Regas have a problem with in the past. This is the first TT I have owned in 20 yrs. I have owned many Duals, a few Thorens, a Yamaha and a Technics. The Rega has outshined them all. The preamp section of the Rotel RC-1090 is subperb IMO for a built-in phono pre. The only gripe I have about the P5 is it take about 2 revolutions to get up to speed. For the TT, Exact cartridge and TT PSU my total outlay was <$1700.

[hearingimpared]

I looked quite ostentiuously when doing my research on TT. I decided on the Rega P5 because of value/$ (Stereophile's 2005 analogue product of the year). With the TT PSU the speed is dead on - something that Regas have a problem with in the past. This is the first TT I have owned in 20 yrs. I have owned many Duals, a few Thorens, a Yamaha and a Technics. The Rega has outshined them all. The preamp section of the Rotel RC-1090 is subperb IMO for a built-in phono pre. The only gripe I have about the P5 is it take about 2 revolutions to get up to speed. For the TT, Exact cartridge and TT PSU my total outlay was <$1700.

The clamp will work on practically any turntable made. . . there are very few that I've come across that it won't grab the spindle with a tenacious grip and bear down on the record.

[shoester5]

Just a quick update on the clamp. I've been very busy with work and my brother was in town last week, so I haven't had much time to do more in depth testing but planning to spend this Saturday afternoon doing nothing but some serious listening to my music collection. I'll give an update on Sunday after doing the Mother's Day thing.

[hearingimpared]

Just a quick update on the clamp. I've been very busy with work and my brother was in town last week, so I haven't had much time to do more in depth testing but planning to spend this Saturday afternoon doing nothing but some serious listening to my music collection. I'll give an update on Sunday after doing the Mother's Day thing.

Can't wait Bro! Lay it on me!!!

[shoester5]

Let me start this review by stating the fact that I was an unbeliever of the claims others have made that the clamp improves the overall sound of albums.

Well now, I’m a believer! This clamp has made a profound improvement in sound quality of my albums. The first thing I noticed was a significant improvement in the sound stage and stereo separation. This clamp works exceptional well with warped and really used albums. I have several albums that are either well worn, warped or both and it allowed me to play most of these albums…reducing the sound of the scratches and the number of skips.

Overall, I’m very impressed with the clamp both in the quality of the build and in the ability to do what it was designed to do and it does it exceptionally well. One thing I noticed was the better the recording and the quality of the album the less the effect of the clamp but on not-so-perfect albums the clamp is a must have for vinyl lovers. I defiantly need to add one to my collection.

I want to take this opportunity to thank Joe for taking the time and effort in maintaining this clamp swap program and allowing someone like me to give it a try. I would also like to know how I can get one of these clamps for myself.

[hearingimpared]

Thanks for you great review.

They cost $130 plus $5 for shipping. I take checks or Postal Money orders. Once you commit to buying I will assemble one for you which includes polishing the brass collet. I have a full guarantee on the clamp which means that if you are not satified in any way, even with the color, I'll refund all you money. Since you seen and handled it, I guess the color isn't and issue. Let me know if you want one.

I only have a few left.

The next person in line is Darqueknight. Please PM him and let him know you will be sending him the clamp and an aprox timeframe which he might expect delivery. Please send all parts and instructions with it. It needs to be insured for $150.

Thanks,
Joe

PS: when you PM Darqueknight, please copy me on the PM. Thanks again.

[apc]

Gentlemen,

I may be interested in auditioning the clamp, but do not know if it will fit my TT. I've got an older Technics. Model is SLD202 I think (I'm at work and it is not). Low end currently, but I am looking at getting a Pro-Ject Debut III.

Questions: Will the clamp fit either or both of these TTs? Is there a measurement I should take to confirm?

[hearingimpared]

Gentlemen,

I may be interested in auditioning the clamp, but do not know if it will fit my TT. I've got an older Technics. Model is SLD202 I think (I'm at work and it is not). Low end currently, but I am looking at getting a Pro-Ject Debut III.

Questions: Will the clamp fit either or both of these TTs? Is there a measurement I should take to confirm?

T., I tested this one some old Technics tables back in the latter 80s. This should fit and work well. If you decide to buy The Clamp and it doesn't meet your expectations in any way, shape, or form, I will refund all your money, including shipping.

Joe

In the mean time I will put you on the list.

[hearingimpared]

OK. By popular demand we are going to have a little swap for The Clamp.

For those of you who don't know what The Clamp is, PLEASE READ THIS THREAD (http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47286).


The ground rules are simple.

1) Post your name IN THIS THREAD if you want to participate in the swap. Then PM me with your usual information. Your name will be listed in the order it appears.

2) When you receive The Clamp, you have THREE (3) WEEKS to play around with it. You will receive the shipping address of the next person in line to demo it. The cost of shipping it on will be on you.

3) Post your thoughts and findings in this thread. The whole point of this swap is for you and others to be able to check it out. You might want to, but others may gain interest based on what you say. so say it...

4) Use it as explained in the directions. If you break it, you bought it. If you do break it, let Joe know immediately, he might be able to save your turntable...

Pretty easy, huh?

Check it out. You will be surprised...



THE LIST

1) candyliquor35m (carl)

2) Fireman32 (Dave)

3) Frank Z

4) wodom1

5) Polrbehr

6) Shoester5

7) DarqueKnight

8) pblanc

9) Strider

10) apc

Tony, you've been added to the list. Thanks for your interest.

[shoester5]

The clamp has been sent to DarqueKnight by USPS Priority Mail and insured for $150. The tracking number is 13071080000028752615.

Thanks,

[hearingimpared]

The clamp has been sent to DarqueKnight by USPS Priority Mail and insured for $150. The tracking number is 13071080000028752615.

Thanks,

Thanks Bro.

[DarqueKnight]

The Clamp is here!

More later.:)

[Fireman32]

The Clamp is here!

More later.:)

Prepare to be amazed.

[hearingimpared]

The Clamp is here!

More later.:)

Right ON!!!! I can't wait to hear your impressions.

[DarqueKnight]

Introduction

Looking back with my 100% accurate 20/20 hindsight, I really should have acquired a good record clamp long ago. However, it took me nearly 20 years to invest in a better turntable and cartridge, so acquiring a better clamp to hold the record more securely to the platter was never a big priority for me. I only listen to records for a few hours a month. I am not what you would call an analog enthusiast.

Now into play comes “The Clamp”, a reasonably priced record clamp that promises to improve the performance of any turntable…or your money back.

Those with an aversion to reading can just skip to the last sentence of the “conclusion” section below.

Audio Equipment

I evaluated The Clamp using two turntables: a Yamaha PF-800 with integral arm and Yamaha MC-705 low output (.3 mV) moving coil cartridge and a Teres Audio Model 255 turntable with Graham Deluxe 2.2 tonearm and Ortofon Jubilee low output (0.34 mV) moving coil cartridge. The interconnect used with the Yamaha turntable was a four foot length of Signal Cable Silver Resolution RCA cable. The interconnect used with the Teres turntable was a four foot length of Signal Cable Silver Resolution Phono cable. For price point reference, the Yamaha turntable and cartridge had MSRP’s of $500 and $200 respectively in 1986. This equates to $937 and $375 in 2007 dollars. The Teres table, Graham tonearm, and Ortofon cartridge have MSRP’s of $3300, $3200, and $1999 respectively.

Both turntable systems were inserted into my two channel audio system consisting of: Pass Labs X1 preamp, Pass Labs Xono phono preamp, Parasound JC1 monoblock power amps, Polk Audio SDA SRS 1.2TL speakers, Signal Cable Silver Resolution interconnects (RCA for turntable and XLR for pre and power amps), and Monster Cable Z3 reference speaker cables. Evaluating different turntable/cartridge setups is always “fun” with the Xono because it has to be taken out of the audio cabinet and the top taken off in order to reset the cartridge loading dip switches.

The Clamps

The little “toy” record clamp that came with the Yamaha PF-800 served me well for many years. It grips the spindle securely and does an adequate job of coupling the record to the platter and rubber mat. It would be useless against a badly warped record, but fortunately, I don’t have any of those. The Yamaha clamp is a hard rubber clamp that is 3” in diameter and 0.8” tall. It is almost feather light at 0.05 pounds. The top of the clamp disc has stroboscopic patterns for use in checking/adjusting platter speed.

The Teres Hardwood screw-on reflex clamp comes standard with their turntables or can be purchased separately for $220. It is fabricated from machined stainless steel, turned cocobolo hardwood, and a threaded brass spindle sleeve. The Teres clamp is used in conjunction with a 1.125” diameter, 0.075” thick delrin (plastic resin) washer. The washer is placed over the spindle, the record is placed over the washer, the clamp is placed on the spindle and the stainless steel knob is turned to secure it in place. The Teres clamp uses a reflex action wherein the outer edge of the clamp contacts the record and forces a slight concavity at the center of the record due to the delrin washer underneath. This has the effect of exerting downward pressure on the outer edge of the record. This can eliminate or greatly reduce mild warpage. The Teres clamp weighs 0.61 pounds, is 3.5” in diameter, and is 1” high.

“The Clamp” is a pure reflex design constructed of a delrin body and a brass spindle sleeve. It costs $135 ($130 + $5 shipping). The Clamp is used in conjunction with three delrin washers, all 1.25” in diameter and 0.05”, 0.075”, and 0.10” in thickness. The washer size used depends on the thickness of the record and/or the amount of warpage (if any) you need to correct. The washers fit really tightly on the platter spindle. A washer is placed on the spindle first and the record is then placed over the washer. The Clamp is then pushed down to the record surface. One hand is used to hold The Clamp’s base while the other hand turns the large knob to secure the clamp to the spindle/platter/record. As you are turning the knob, a metal collet grabs the spindle and The Clamp’s base is lowered onto the record. The Clamp uses a reflex action wherein the outer edge of the clamp contacts the record and forces a slight concavity at the center of the record due to the delrin washer underneath. The Clamp weighs 0.5 pounds, is 3.2” in diameter, and is 1.7” high.

The Clamp was too tall to fit under the Yamaha table’s acrylic dust cover. Therefore, the dust cover had to be removed for listening sessions. No big deal. It looks better with the dust cover off anyway. I don’t even have a dust cover for the Teres table.

Listening Evaluations

Listening evaluations were done over a two day period. The following records were used:

1. Dan Siegel, “Another Time, Another Place”, 1985.
2. Bob James, “Touchdown”, CBS Mastersound Audiophile pressing, ½ speed mastered, 1981.
3. Rodney Franklin, “Skydance”, 1985.
4. Dennis Coffey, “Back Home”, 1977.
5. George Benson, “Breezin”, Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs pressing, 1976.
6. Madhouse, “8”, 1987.
7. Michael Franks, “Passion Fruit”, 1983.
8. Michael Franks, “Sleeping Gypsy”, 1977.

All discs, with the exception of Dennis Coffey’s “Back Home” were either ruler flat or very nearly so. The Back Home disc had a 1/8” rise in three places. Using the Teres clamp and its 0.075” washer and The Clamp and its 0.075” washer reduced the warped places by 50% to about 1/16” and reduced the sound of the warp to imperceptible level. Using The Clamp’s 0.1” thick washer with The Clamp and the Teres clamp reduced the warped places to about 1/32”, but there was added “muddiness” to the sound. There was little to no surface noise (pops, clicks, ticks, etc.) on any disc.

All listening evaluations were done with The Clamp and its 0.075” washer and the Teres clamp with its 0.075” washer.

Comparison of Stock Yamaha Clamp to The Clamp

The moment I switched from the stock Yamaha clamp to The Clamp, I knew that I was on to a good thing. The first thing I noticed was an apparent increase in volume. It sounded like the volume had been turned up a couple of ticks. Actually, The Clamp provided much higher mechanical coupling of the record to the platter, which resulted in a much lower noise floor. However, just to make sure my ears were not playing tricks on me, I reinstalled the stock Yamaha clamp and took measurements with my sound level meter. I then reinstalled The Clamp and took sound level measurements. I measured an average sound level of 85 dB with both clamps, but the sound with The Clamp was apparently much louder. To summarize, I realized the following improvements with The Clamp:

1. Significantly lowered noise floor.
2. The instruments within the soundstage had more three-dimensional “weight”.
3. There was no change in soundstage width, but instruments at the extreme sides of the soundstage had much more definition and clarity, which gave an apparent sense of greater soundstage width.
4. The front of the soundstage was projected another two feet forward.
5. More definition and clarity overall, but particularly with bass sounds.
6. More bass impact.

The Teres clamp requires a threaded spindle and could not be used with the Yamaha turntable.

Comparison of Stock Teres Audio Clamp to The Clamp

The Clamp totally transformed the sonic characteristics of the Yamaha turntable/Yamaha cartridge combination to the point that it sounded like a completely different, and better, table and cartridge. This was nothing short of amazing.

The Clamp did not "transform" the Teres setup, but still provided all the improvements noted with the Yamaha table, but to a lesser degree. Whereas the Yamaha table sounded at least twice (200%) as good with The Clamp, the Teres table sounded 50% better.

Conclusion

I had only two nitpicky concerns with The Clamp: one in the area of aesthetics and the other in the area of ergonomics.

As can be seen from the photos below, the aesthetics of The Clamp blended well with the appearance of both of my turntables. Although, to my eyes and aesthetic sensibilities, the sleek cocobolo wood and stainless steel styling of the Teres clamp was certainly the hands down winner in the looks department. However, good looks could not prevent the Teres clamp’s “early retirement”. With regard to The Clamp’s aesthetics, I would have preferred a sleeker clear or gloss black body. However, I realize that changing The Clamp’s physical dimensions, mass, or material might compromise its sonic performance…and I certainly don’t want that.

I have grown accustomed to “one-handed” operation of my audio video gear. The Clamp’s requirement of the use of both hands to install and remove it was somewhat cumbersome. However, “real” vinylphiles, with their notable inclination for manually massaging their analog gear, will probably love this aspect of The Clamp. When you think about it, installing/removing The Clamp is no more “cumbersome” than having to use both hands to remove a record from its sleeve and place it on the platter.

Based on my performance evaluations of The Clamp, I ordered two Clamps: one for each of my turntables. Such good sound.

Pictures:


1. Yamaha PF-800 turntable with The Clamp.
2. Yamaha PF-800 turntable with The Clamp closeup.
3. Yamaha PF-800 turntable spindle.
4. Yamaha PF-800 turntable with stock clamp.
5. Teres Model 255 turntable with The Clamp.
6. Teres Model 255 turntable spindle.
7. Yamaha, Teres, and The Clamp top views.
8. Yamaha, Teres, and The Clamp bottom views.

[DarqueKnight]

I will be sending The Clamp on to pblanc as soon as my Clamps arrive.:)

[engtaz]

Great review DarqueKnight

[Fireman32]

One hell of a review. I knew you would want one. I was hooked on the clamp after about 30 seconds of listening. By the way I love your Teres turntable. It's a beautiful piece.

[hearingimpared]

Great review Darqueknight, thank you. I love the look of the Teres clamp. I made that my clamp back in 1987 and designed it for performance and back then the look was considered very good 'n' sexy. Since then TT manufacturers started making their clamps to work better than their predecessors and because it was going to be showcased on their turntables it had to be designed for the aesthetic value too.

If I could afford to manufacture more of The Clamp I would do a serious redesign to take into consideration the aesthetic value. The problem is that to take anything away from the clamp, the delrin mass, the Sorbothane/rubber spring, the heavy brass collet, etc would in fact take away from the performance.

It is funny when I close my turntable up for the night, I place my clamp on a side table and place the VPI one piece screw on clamp on the turntable because it looks so good and sexy. IMHO it is not worth a shite except for that purpose LOL!. but then again I'm a little biased.

Thanks again for that wonderful and well thought out review.

[DarqueKnight]

It would be great if your record clamp could go into mass production! Maybe a turntable manufacturer would pick it up...but then, they'd have to set aside thier egos...:(

[hearingimpared]

It would be great if your record clamp could go into mass production! Maybe a turntable manufacturer would pick it up...but then, they'd have to set aside thier egos...:(


I just read your review again and I think that if you became familiar with The Clamp by using it and tried different down pressures as well as combos of the provided shims, I am confident that you can get your Teres tt/arm/cart combo to improve in sonics higher that the stated 50% improvement.

That is not my ego speaking it is the fact that I have a lot of experience with the clamp and have surprised myself over time at how I can change and improve the perceived performance of different records by adjusting the tension of the brass collet and combos of shims.

Thanks again for that wonderful review.

[DarqueKnight]

Thanks for the tip. I was not aware that the shims could be used in combination.

Do you have any printed instructions/setup tips for the clamp?

[hearingimpared]

Thanks for the tip. I was not aware that the shims could be used in combination.

Do you have any printed instructions/setup tips for the clamp?

You didn't receive the instruction manual???:mad:

[hearingimpared]

The clamp has been sent to DarqueKnight by USPS Priority Mail and insured for $150. The tracking number is 13071080000028752615.

Thanks,

Josh, didn't you get the instruction guide on the clamp?:confused:

[DarqueKnight]

You didn't receive the instruction manual???:mad:

No. The clamp arrived in a 2-1/2" x 4-3/4" x 4-3/4" box. Inside the box was the clamp, which was well packed in foam wrapping, and the three shims, which were in a small envelope.

[hearingimpared]

No. The clamp arrived in a 2-1/2" x 4-3/4" x 4-3/4" box. Inside the box was the clamp, which was well packed in foam wrapping, and the three shims, which were in a small envelope.

See that isn't right. I sent the instruction manual along with the clamp because you NEED IT TO USE THE CLAMP PROPERLY. Whoever dropped the ball on this better fess up or keep your mouth shut and just make it right!!!

[SCompRacer]

I can copy my instructions and send them if you like.




:D \/

[hearingimpared]

I can copy my instructions and send them if you like.




:D \/

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA somemore!!!! Thanks Bud for the offer but I took care of it already.

[Polk65]

Keep those coming Rich. :D

[SCompRacer]

Ok...:D

[hearingimpared]

Ok...:D

ahhhh the site of a young and blossoming audiophile!

[hearingimpared]

We've tried to contact pblanc with no luck, Pblanc has not replied, a PM was sent 5/24/07 and his last post was on 3/5/07, so he may not be visiting the forum regularly.

I asked DarqueKnight to contact the next person on the list, strider. If planc sees this or heads back this way we will make arrangements.

[DarqueKnight]

I received my Clamps today and also shipped out the demo Clamp to strider. I have sent PM's to Hearingimpared and Strider with the tracking and insurance receipt numbers.

By the way, I was pleasantly surprised that the delrin washers of the Clamps I received today did not fit supertight on the spidle like those of the demo Clamp.:)

[hearingimpared]

Ben when you receive the Clamp and shims, if you have trouble getting them on or off the spindle, take a reaming tool and give it two twists in each one, that ought to take care of that problem. Apologies to all prior to this for not realizing this earlier.

[strider]

Ben when you receive the Clamp and shims, if you have trouble getting them on or off the spindle, take a reaming tool and give it two twists in each one, that ought to take care of that problem. Apologies to all prior to this for not realizing this earlier.

:eek: Rest assured, if I have any problems/difficulties I'll give you a call before I attempt repair. Especially if it involves reaming/cutting/boring/torching etc. I'm sure everything will be fine, I can't wait to try it!:)

[hearingimpared]

:eek: Rest assured, if I have any problems/difficulties I'll give you a call before I attempt repair. Especially if it involves reaming/cutting/boring/torching etc. I'm sure everything will be fine, I can't wait to try it!:)

Good deal!

[izafar]

Joe,

Can you add me the swap list if it is not frozen yet.

Thanks
-izafar

[hearingimpared]

OK. By popular demand we are going to have a little swap for The Clamp.

For those of you who don't know what The Clamp is, PLEASE READ THIS THREAD (http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47286).


The ground rules are simple.

1) Post your name IN THIS THREAD if you want to participate in the swap. Then PM me with your usual information. Your name will be listed in the order it appears.

2) When you receive The Clamp, you have THREE (3) WEEKS to play around with it. You will receive the shipping address of the next person in line to demo it. The cost of shipping it on will be on you.

3) Post your thoughts and findings in this thread. The whole point of this swap is for you and others to be able to check it out. You might want to, but others may gain interest based on what you say. so say it...

4) Use it as explained in the directions. If you break it, you bought it. If you do break it, let Joe know immediately, he might be able to save your turntable...

Pretty easy, huh?

Check it out. You will be surprised...



THE LIST

1) candyliquor35m (carl)

2) Fireman32 (Dave)

3) Frank Z

4) wodom1

5) Polrbehr

6) Shoester5

7) DarqueKnight

8) pblanc

9) Strider

10) apc

11) izafar


You're on Bro.:)

[strider]

Received the Clamp today. Everything's in good shape.

[hearingimpared]

Received the Clamp today. Everything's in good shape.

Excellent, I can't wait to hear your impressions.

[lightman1]

Interesting. So there is a noticable drop in W&F and an increase in seperation? Sign me up!

[strider]

Sent the Clamp to Tony (apc) at lunch today, along with PM's to hearingimpaired and Tony with the delivery confirmation and insurance numbers. Hopefully I'll have some time tonight or tomorrow to post my thoughts on The Clamp.

[apc]

Clamp arrived today. See PMs to strider and hearingimpaired.

[apc]

I want to thank Joe and the forum for the opportunity to demo The Clamp at home. It is rare that items can be tried out prior to purchasing. The Clamp is obviously constructed of first rate materials and the finish is professional and a handsome addition to any audio decor.

Having said that, you may have read some of the tribulations I have endured regarding my turntables. Admittedly, my equipment pales in comparison to many of the systems you folks have compiled. I powered each of my tests with a vintage Marantz 60 wpc receiver pushing bookshelf Polk RT25's. I used an entry-level Technics SL-D202 turntable and Stanton cartridge. I also used a Pro-ject Debut III and the Ortofon OM 5E cartridge. Finally, I used a Thorens TD160 MKII with a Grado Alchemist A cartridge.

My record collection was compiled from the lates 60's to the late 70's. They were not in mint condition; however, I wet-cleaned and applied anti-static brush prior to each play. My results are not typical. I believe all of the people before me were able to distinguish substantial improvement, but I did not hear a noticeable change. I am placing blame squarely on the pilot and not the plane.

I think I might require some professional help in installing and setting up the cartridge on the Technics, which is the only one I kept. The Pro-ject cartridge was factory installed and the Thorens and Grado were just plain old and in need of refurbishment. I do not have expensive cables or a power conditioner on this system. I have a static problem I cannot clear up even in the humidity of an Alabama July.

I dragged my wife in to listen on a couple of occasions hoping she could detect a difference. Her hearing is better than mine in certain realms. Each of us have some loss in various ranges.

Although I will not be ordering The Clamp immediately, I can say I look forward to rectifying the shortcomings of my system. Thanks again for the chance to learn more and I look forward to reading about your vinyl systems.

Will make arrangement to send to izafar Tuesday.

[hearingimpared]

I want to thank Joe and the forum for the opportunity to demo The Clamp at home. It is rare that items can be tried out prior to purchasing. The Clamp is obviously constructed of first rate materials and the finish is professional and a handsome addition to any audio decor.

Having said that, you may have read some of the tribulations I have endured regarding my turntables. Admittedly, my equipment pales in comparison to many of the systems you folks have compiled. I powered each of my tests with a vintage Marantz 60 wpc receiver pushing bookshelf Polk RT25's. I used an entry-level Technics SL-D202 turntable and Stanton cartridge. I also used a Pro-ject Debut III and the Ortofon OM 5E cartridge. Finally, I used a Thorens TD160 MKII with a Grado Alchemist A cartridge.

My record collection was compiled from the lates 60's to the late 70's. They were not in mint condition; however, I wet-cleaned and applied anti-static brush prior to each play. My results are not typical. I believe all of the people before me were able to distinguish substantial improvement, but I did not hear a noticeable change. I am placing blame squarely on the pilot and not the plane.

I think I might require some professional help in installing and setting up the cartridge on the Technics, which is the only one I kept. The Pro-ject cartridge was factory installed and the Thorens and Grado were just plain old and in need of refurbishment. I do not have expensive cables or a power conditioner on this system. I have a static problem I cannot clear up even in the humidity of an Alabama July.

I dragged my wife in to listen on a couple of occasions hoping she could detect a difference. Her hearing is better than mine in certain realms. Each of us have some loss in various ranges.

Although I will not be ordering The Clamp immediately, I can say I look forward to rectifying the shortcomings of my system. Thanks again for the chance to learn more and I look forward to reading about your vinyl systems.

Will make arrangement to send to izafar Tuesday.

No need to apologize Bro. . . it's all good!

[hearingimpared]

The swap is officially now over. The remaining clamps will be sold for $500 + shippping each. The Polk forum members get a 20% discount which brings the cost to $400 + shipping with all guarantees in tact.

Thanks to everyone for participating in the swap and thanks to all of you who have purchased my clamp.

[danger boy]

Joe,

Thanks for making The Clamp available to us.. most of us never would have been able to enjoy the benefits of The Clamp otherwise.

glad you brought it to our attention. :)

You're a good guy....

[miner]

The swap is officially now over. The remainding clamps will be sold for $500 + shippping each. The Polk forum members get a 20% discount which brings the cost to $400 + shipping with all guarantees in tact.

Thanks to everyone for participating in the swap and thanks to all of you who have purchased my clamp.

Seriously, the cost has gone up form $135 to $400 plus shipping? Just wanting ot make sure I am understanding this correctly.

[hearingimpared]

Seriously, the cost has gone up form $135 to $400 plus shipping? Just wanting ot make sure I am understanding this correctly.

I was trying to be a nice guy and give the members on this forum a chance to try out the clamp and get a big break in price. I took a major loss in that the clamp cost well over double the $135 cost just in materials. If you take into consideration the manufacturing costs, R & D, testing, etc and compare it to the clamps that are out there, $400 is a bargain. If no one here wants to pay the DISCOUNTED $400 price, I can sell it for $500 easily elsewhere!. Just ask anyone who has purchased one if it is worth the $400.

[hearingimpared]

Joe,

Thanks for making The Clamp available to us.. most of us never would have been able to enjoy the benefits of The Clamp otherwise.

glad you brought it to our attention. :)

You're a good guy....

Thanks Al!

[hearingimpared]

Tom, hows the clamp working for you?

[DarqueKnight]

Seriously, the cost has gone up form $135 to $400 plus shipping? Just wanting ot make sure I am understanding this correctly.

Yeah, most of us were thrilled to the level of intoxication to get the introductory price. I would invite you to call a custom metal and plastics fabricator and learn how much it costs to make things. Prototyping costs can run in the thousands of dollars.:eek:

I was trying to be a nice guy and give the members on this forum a chance to try out the clamp and get a big break in price.

From the moment the needle was lowering into the record grooves, I knew I was on to a good thing. That's why I ordered two of them....and I'm a guy who's really more into digital than analog.;) :)

I took a major loss in that the clamp cost well over double the $135 cost just in materials. If you take into consideration the manufacturing costs, R & D, testing, etc and compare it to the clamps that are out there, $400 is a bargain.

Especially for a product that does what it says it will do. ;)

[treitz3]

Actually, it's not. Mother Nature sent me a message via a lightning bolt about a month ago. I am awaiting a mint amp to get to my house, but Paypal/E-Pray had other plans for me. Such is life.

The new amp should be here Monday or Teusday. When I hook everything back up, I shall do nothing but shake the foundation for about two days, then I'll get back to actual listening. At that time, I'll give vinyl a whirl for about three to four days [for the first time in MY rig in almost two decades] and then I'll install the clamp. At that point I'll give my evaluation. I'm gonna purchase it regardless, just because of the build quality and theory behind it.

I have SACD, redbook, HDCD, XRCD..and other formats that I have been waiting patiently to compare to vinyl for some time now. Keep in mind, I only have the Rega P1, which is an entry level player, so I might not hear what differences you hear. I thank you for the opportunity to try it out and I look forward to getting back to sound once again.:D Rock on.

[danger boy]

one thing to consider when getting back into vinyl and I just learned this this week is that the stylus and cartridge made a big difference in the sound quality of vinyl.

If you are like me and picked up a turntable recently on the cheap and decided to test out some albums again.. keep in mind that buying a new stylus and in some cases a new cartridge and wire leads will help the sound from the vinyl a lot.

I replaced the stylus/needle on my Pioneer when i first got it at the first of the year.. i bought it at a yard sale in really dusty but otherwise good condition. The thing has been sitting for nearly 20 yrs :eek:

Anyway. to make a long story longer... when i got it.. i replaced the needle but not the cartridge, it sounded ok till just this week, i got a new Audio-technica cartridge and needle and wire leads.. bam!!!! :D it took my vinyl to a WHOLE new level.

My point is.. spend a few bucks on a decent cartridge and needle and change out those wire leads... all of this can be done for under $100 as was my case.. and believe me it made a whole world of difference over just buying a $26 needle. :D

So if you're just getting back into albums again.. and are dusting off your old table.. invest in a new stylus at the bare minimum. it's so worth it. It brought back new life to my turntable.

that's it.. enjoy! :)

[hearingimpared]

Yeah, most of us were thrilled to the level of intoxication to get the introductory price. I would invite you to call a custom metal and plastics fabricator and learn how much it costs to make things. Prototyping costs can run in the thousands of dollars.:eek:



From the moment the needle was lowering into the record grooves, I knew I was on to a good thing. That's why I ordered two of them....and I'm a guy who's really more into digital than analog.;) :)



Especially for a product that does what it says it will do. ;)


Thank you sir for the kind words.:)

[schwarcw]

The clamp is a bargain at $400. It made a noticeable difference from the moment I put it into my system. Thanks Joe!

[hearingimpared]

The clamp is a bargain at $400. It made a noticeable difference from the moment I put it into my system. Thanks Joe!

Thanks Carl. We have a member here who has just purchased a vinyl rig, cleaning machine and all and I want him to have one these because there is nothing else like it out there, at least to my knoweldge, and I can't seem to convince him of that. I only have three or four left.

Of all the components that compose my analog rig, I think the permanent fixture is not the platter, or the tonearm or the table itself, it is the clamp. That one piece of gear will be spinning with my vinyl till the day I pass on. I'm still blown away that no turntable manufacturer has stolen and used the design.

[schwarcw]

I'm still blown away that no turntable manufacturer has stolen and used the design.

Ain't that the truth. In the world of audio tweaks, this is a blockbuster. I haven't seen any accolades by owners of your clamp (me included) on some of the other Forums. We must be jagoffs! (in a McKeesport accent)

Carl

[hearingimpared]

Maybe we are just trying to keep this in the family!

McKeesport accent LOL! a jagoff is a jagoff in any accent.

[strider]

Many thanks for making The Clamp available to audition, Joe. I enjoyed my time with it immensely. I also feel remiss in my duty to report on my impressions of it when I had it. Life's calmed down quite a bit since I had my turn some months ago, so I'll go from memory here. The first thing I noticed was the increased distinction of the various instruments and voices. Rather then hearing a drum kit, I could discern individual pieces and their space within the soundstage. Listening to "Scarborough Fair" without The Clamp I heard male vocals dead center, with a female vocalist somewhere betwixt the two. With the Clamp the vocals were still in the same locations, but the seperate vocals were clearly defined within that space in a manner I hadn't imagined possible. Another item of note was the bass. One of the albums I used to audition it was a collection of Bach's compositions played on the pipe organ. I was impressed how deep my 2B's dug when I first played the album, with The Clamp installed it was taken to another level. The bass was deeper and much tighter. Instead of just rumbling the room, I could hear the "reedy" qualities of the organ.

All this being said, I feel the biggest thing I took from the Clamp swap was the experience itself. Being able to A/B a componenent in such a quick fashion really made the differences evident. My experience in comparing subtleties in equipment is quite limited, especially when compared to most around here. This swap really opened my eyes.

Thanks again, Joe!

[Ricardo]

Thanks Carl. We have a member here who has just purchased a vinyl rig, cleaning machine and all and I want him to have one these because there is nothing else like it out there, at least to my knoweldge, and I can't seem to convince him of that. I only have three or four left.


Joe, if you really really want me to have it, just send it :D :D

[hearingimpared]

Ha ha ha! I think you need this item. It will produce all kinds of improvements over your current Pro-ject clamp. Just the mass alone will reveal a lower noise floor and more stable image.

[Ricardo]

Check your email Joe

[hearingimpared]

There are no more clamps available.

TO ALL WHO HAVE PURCHASED THE CLAMPS, YOU OWN ONE OF ONLY 25 IN CIRCULATION THAT I AM AWARE OF IN THE NEW MILLENNIUM!!!

Should you ever decide to sell your clamp I ask that you give me the first shot at purchasing it.

Thanks to all you guys and I am sure this is the last record clamp you will ever need to purchase.

[larry207]

I would like to try your clamp out could you put me on your list!

[engtaz]

There are no more clamps available.

TO ALL WHO HAVE PURCHASED THE CLAMPS, YOU OWN ONE OF ONLY 25 IN CIRCULATION THAT I AM AWARE OF IN THE NEW MILLENNIUM!!!

Should you ever decide to sell your clamp I ask that you give me the first shot at purchasing it.

Thanks to all you guys and I am sure this is the last record clamp you will ever need to purchase.

Their are no more CAMPS to try out

Sorry but the last thing in this threads says this very thing,
engtaz

[hearingimpared]

I designed a "CAMP?":confused::confused::confused:

[reeltrouble1]

r there any girl scouts in this CAMP?????????

RT1

[hearingimpared]

r there any girl scouts in this CAMP?????????

RT1

Well the one I designed has buxom 24 year old women in Camp Fire Girl uniforms!:eek::D

[RuSsMaN]

If someone wants mine they can have it for what I paid, I think a buck and a quarter?

Good clamp, I like my Thorens Stabalizer, I don't need two good clamps.

[shack]

If someone wants mine they can have it for what I paid, I think a buck and a quarter?

Good clamp, I like my Thorens Stabalizer, I don't need two good clamps.

Sounds like a good Karma item Russ. For something as special as one of the clamp....it would need to be a very special karma. Just a thought.

BTW... I REALLY like my clamp.

Well the one I designed has buxom 24 year old women in Camp Fire Girl uniforms

In my CAMP...same girls....just NO uniforms...or any clothing at all...:D

[RuSsMaN]

Yeah, great karma item. First member to put $125 in my paypal account wins.

Cheers,
Russ

[hearingimpared]

I'll buy it back from ya.

[shack]

Yeah, great karma item. First member to put $125 in my paypal account wins.

Cheers,
Russ

What's the old marketing line....a bargain at twice the price...