2 Channel Amps?

[TennesseeOutlaw]

Ok, if I were to stray from what Ive kinda already decided on (Outlaw Audio), what 2 Channel amps does everyone recommend? I want at least 300 Wpc @4 Ohms. I may also get a 5 channel amp with the same power output, so if you have any recommendations send those as well.

Thanks,

Josh

[PolkWannabie]

Price Range ?

[TennesseeOutlaw]

Ok, if I were to stray from what Ive kinda already decided on (Outlaw Audio), what 2 Channel amps does everyone recommend? I want at least 300 Wpc @4 Ohms. I may also get a 5 channel amp with the same power output, so if you have any recommendations send those as well.

Thanks,

Josh


Sorry... A lil more info.. Im looking to spend no more that 2300 for it, and I want brand new if at all possible.

[snow]

Sorry... A lil more info.. Im looking to spend no more that 2300 for it, and I want brand new if at all possible. amps like most things take a huge nose dive after they have been opened up. if your stuck on new i guess thats that. but i will never buy new again myself. i can get so much more for if i buy like new condition amps pre speakers etc. for 2300.00 you can get one hell of a nice used amp. lots better than the outlaw. REGARDS SNOW:)

[GV#27]

Bryston 2B SST or 3B SST.

[TennesseeOutlaw]

Ok.. That being said, do you have any name brands? models? Other than your run of the mill audio brands, I dont know about very many products..

[TennesseeOutlaw]

Ill check those out.. Thanks..

[snow]

here is a few names to check. anthem. classe. adcom.some very nice amps can be had on ebay or audigon for 2300.00 or less in the 2 channel class with these names. here is a classe 5 channel 180wpc at 8 0hms 360wpc into 4 ohms amp i think this would suit most peoples needs for a very long time. http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampsmult&1173848878 REGARDS SNOW

[Vr3MxStyler2k3]

I think youd have a hard time beating the Khartago from Odyssey...

Dont pay much mind to power ratings... Id put my 115 watts to alot of guys 250+ watts... ;)

[george daniel]

[QUOTE=Vr3MxStyler2k3]I think youd have a hard time beating the Khartago from Odyssey...

Dont pay much mind to power ratings... Id put my 115 watts to alot of guys 250+ watts... ;)[/QUOTEOr the STRATOS EXTREME

[GV#27]

Ill check those out.. Thanks..
here is the link
http://www.bryston.ca/ampsel.html

[wingnut4772]

Anthem P2..I have been looking at that and the P5.

[TennesseeOutlaw]

here is the link
http://www.bryston.ca/ampsel.html

I like that 4b. Seems to be about what I want. Know of a price on that unit? I couldnt find one anywhere.:rolleyes:

[Midnite Mick]

He could wait for you to buy the Anthem (those are monsters) and pick up your Earthquake...have some money left over as well.

Mike

[janmike]

amps like most things take a huge nose dive after they have been opened up. if your stuck on new i guess thats that. but i will never buy new again myself. i can get so much more for if i buy like new condition amps pre speakers etc. for 2300.00 you can get one hell of a nice used amp. lots better than the outlaw. REGARDS SNOW:)
In total agreement here as well. When the 2CH rig gets fully assembled the Cary amp will be used. People who own high end gear (and other things as well) usually take care of them.

[TennesseeOutlaw]

Yeah, Im not totally against buying a used product, but I do like the feeling of having a warranty just in case... Seems like I always end up on the bad side of any deal..

[danger boy]

check out Sunfire amps.. they are big beefy and powerful.

[TennesseeOutlaw]

check out Sunfire amps.. they are big beefy and powerful.

Thanks.. I will give them a look see..

[TennesseeOutlaw]

Would be nice if some of these pages had some damn prices on them!! Every amp that has been suggested has looked nice and fits exactly what I'm looking for; however, none of them have a price!

[danger boy]

Would be nice if some of these pages had some damn prices on them!! Every amp that has been suggested has looked nice and fits exactly what I'm looking for; however, none of them have a price!

well if they did have the price listed it would MFSR and not exactly real world which would be less of course.

Once you find the amp you like.. go online and check for authorized dealers in your area. I highly doubt places like Best Buy and Circuit City will be where you will be looking. :p

check here too.. they have the prices listed at least. http://www.onecall.com/ProductSearch.aspx?N=255&Ne=7&menu=true

[Refefer]

Would be nice if some of these pages had some damn prices on them!! Every amp that has been suggested has looked nice and fits exactly what I'm looking for; however, none of them have a price!

The main reason is because, at the price you're looking at, these are sold almost exclusively through physical dealers. You're at a lucky price range, I gotta tell you.

I would seriously think of buying a used Classe or Ayre product.

I would shoot a PM to the owner of this Ayre V-5x amplifier and ask if he'll take $2300 plush S/H... this is one helluva a monster amp. I don't think you can honestly get a better value for your money in this case, since it retails for normally for 4 grand.

http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstran&1171573720

As was previously stated, high end owners of audio don't screw around with their gear. This is no beat up Sony.

[unc2701]

Talk to okiepolkie- he does bryston. If he can't hook you up with a 4b in your budegt, don't hesitate to buy used- the 20 year warranty is fully transferable if it was bought from an authorized seller on the first sale, or the date code is before the begining of 2006.

I've got a 4b sst and love it.

BTW: MSRP on the bryston is a little over $3k, dealer cost is around $2100, i think.

[F1nut]

This is for HT use, right?

[TennesseeOutlaw]

This is for HT use, right?

Yes.. But it is for music as well. Id say as close to 50/50 as one could get..

[tonyb]

I love my Butler ,tube hybrid,very musical and guts for Home theater.
New 3300. demo,or used 1800-2000.

[TennesseeOutlaw]

Talk to okiepolkie- he does bryston. If he can't hook you up with a 4b in your budegt, don't hesitate to buy used- the 20 year warranty is fully transferable if it was bought from an authorized seller on the first sale, or the date code is before the begining of 2006.

I've got a 4b sst and love it.

BTW: MSRP on the bryston is a little over $3k, dealer cost is around $2100, i think.

Is he an authorized dealer?? Or just someone with some Bryston's to sell? I will PM him today.. Thanks..

[TennesseeOutlaw]

Anthem P2..I have been looking at that and the P5.

Thanks... Did a little research today..

[PolkWannabie]

Yeah, Im not totally against buying a used product, but I do like the feeling of having a warranty just in case... Seems like I always end up on the bad side of any deal..
Someone already mentioned Sunfire which I will second ...

Used 5-7 channel 200 wpc @ 8 ohm CG's can be found on eBay or aGon/vGon for ~$1000.

Used 5-7 channel 400+ wpc @ 8 ohm CG Signature's can be found for roughly twice that.

Those prices are 1/3 to 1/2 of what you'd pay for new.

If you looked at the ones I have you wouldn't be able to tell they didn't come home from some store yesterday.

You can get more info at Sunfire's site or by following the link from my sig below for the signature amp.

With regards to having a warranty ... Sunfire gives an original, not really transferable 5 year warranty. But how they deal with owners is if you are not the original owner they will add 6 months onto how old they know the amp is from the serial number and then treat you accordingly ... I had a problem with one of my amps that I bought used and they repaired it and shipped it back to me for nothing. All I paid for was the shipping to get it to them.

All manufactures may not be this generous ... But most are more interested in their gear working they then are in sockin it to you for repairs ...

[unc2701]

Is he an authorized dealer?? Or just someone with some Bryston's to sell? I will PM him today.. Thanks..


He's authorized and highly recommended. I've done several thousand worth of purchases from him.

Another plus for bryston- they're engineered to push well over their advertised specs. If sony were promoting the 4b they'd call it "600 watts"

[TennesseeOutlaw]

Thanks a bunch UNC... I will PM him today! How's NC these days?? Havent been down that way since I was in HS, and we went for Spring Break down there..

[TN_Polk_Lover]

Hey guys, I haven't posted here in a long time. My question is closely related to the one in this thread, so I thought I'd just piggyback this question into this thread.

For Christmas, I bought myself a Denon 3806 AV Receiver which I am still playing around with trying to figure out all the settings on. I decided to use the pre-amp out to drive my RTi70s front main speakers through a Yamaha MX600U amp which I've had for a while. I'll use the Denon 3806 to drive my center channel, CSi30, and rear surrounds Fxi30s? I think (I bought them used off of ebay and don't remember now for sure if they are 30s or 50s.)

Anyway, I had planned to use the Yammie amp to drive a new pair of Polk in ceiling speakers that I plan to put in my bedroom ceiling. So, I'm thinking about buying another power amp to replace the Yammie to drive the front mains. I have no problem buying used. I've bought several things used off of ebay, and so far have not had any problems.

I want to be sure that the new amp will drive LSi115's which is what I'd like to eventually get. So I know that the amp will have to be able to drive a 4 ohm load. I guess that I'm looking for something in the range of 200 wpc into 8 ohms.

Suggestions? There are always used Adcoms out there and I've recently been insterested in Parasound because AudioAdvisor sells them, but I haven't heard anyone here mention Parasound. Thanks.

[snow]

Hey guys, I haven't posted here in a long time. My question is closely related to the one in this thread, so I thought I'd just piggyback this question into this thread.

For Christmas, I bought myself a Denon 3806 AV Receiver which I am still playing around with trying to figure out all the settings on. I decided to use the pre-amp out to drive my RTi70s front main speakers through a Yamaha MX600U amp which I've had for a while. I'll use the Denon 3806 to drive my center channel, CSi30, and rear surrounds Fxi30s? I think (I bought them used off of ebay and don't remember now for sure if they are 30s or 50s.)

Anyway, I had planned to use the Yammie amp to drive a new pair of Polk in ceiling speakers that I plan to put in my bedroom ceiling. So, I'm thinking about buying another power amp to replace the Yammie to drive the front mains. I have no problem buying used. I've bought several things used off of ebay, and so far have not had any problems.

I want to be sure that the new amp will drive LSi115's which is what I'd like to eventually get. So I know that the amp will have to be able to drive a 4 ohm load. I guess that I'm looking for something in the range of 200 wpc into 8 ohms.

Suggestions? There are always used Adcoms out there and I've recently been insterested in Parasound because AudioAdvisor sells them, but I haven't heard anyone here mention Parasound. Thanks. unless its one of parasounds upper end amps. i would choose the adcom over the parasound. lately some of parasounds stuff isnt even made by them. it only has there name sold to the highest bidder. and i have read negative things about some of there lower lines because of it.adcom amps have always been sought after for the bang for the buck. and quality sound and reliability. its hard to beat there gfa555 and gfa555-11 amps for the money they can be had for usally 300-450 on ebay and deliver a robust 200wpc into 8ohms. REGARDS SNOW

[cfrizz]

I had a Parasound 1500A it is outstanding & will drive any speaker with ease. My brother now owns it. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Parasound amp.

Snow, I would be real interested in getting links to these claims of yours.

[snow]

I had a Parasound 1500A it is outstanding & will drive any speaker with ease. My brother now owns it. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Parasound amp.

Snow, I would be real interested in getting links to these claims of yours. i cant speak for the 1500A that you were using. im certainly not saying all parasound amps are bad or faulty. only that some of the lower end line, amps were not the same quality as there better lines are.the amp that i had read about was a monoblock. in the $300.00 retail range i will certainly look to see if i can find the links you asked about. regarding being made by someone else. i know that with any product it is best no matter what the name is to research it fully first. for example adcom had one preamp i believe it was the gfa-740 that really sucked. even though most of there products were highly regarded. REGARDS SNOW

[F1nut]

adcom amps have always been sought after for the bang for the buck. and quality sound and reliability.

Not to mention their grainy highs.

[snow]

Not to mention their grainy highs. perhaps i havent read enough on the adcoms. thats the first time ive heard that. but i guess if it is true something has to give. you cant get it all for the money involved. i have a carver i am using now. it has plenty of power but not exactly the sound i like personally. i also have a proton that i like the sound better with. but not enough power. o well i guess thats one reason we keep buying and searching. is we all want the sound to be perfect. i think the amp that i have personally liked the best of the ones i have used is an very old altec pro amp. the 9440A. i had one and loved the sound and it had plenty of power but 1 channel was weak and i was constantly trying to balance the 2 channels out power wise. it was going to cost me more to fix it then i thought it was worth. so i sold it . REGARDS SNOW

[TennesseeOutlaw]

Ive never been much of an Adcom fan myself. That was the major brand line that the local "high end" audio store carried.. Ive listened to dozens of their amplifiers over the past 15 years, and have to say that I have yet to be wowed by one of them.. Unless they have made some very hefty changes I wouldnt even put them on my "maybe" list.

[TennesseeOutlaw]

Congrats to me for attaining the elusive "POLKSTER"

[snow]

I had a Parasound 1500A it is outstanding & will drive any speaker with ease. My brother now owns it. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Parasound amp.

Snow, I would be real interested in getting links to these claims of yours. here is a link to a few reviews that i had read about one of the cheaper line mono blocks. i cant find the other links its been too long sorry. http://www.audioreview.com/PRD_125115_1583crx.aspx also from what i have read about the 1500A it seems to be a very nice amp. i think that sometimes companys are basically forced into selling lower end products to be competive and the audiophiles suffer because of it. parasound has built a very nice reputation because of quality products. but i remember the days when jbl products were very good too. now unless you buy some of there upper end products you are taking a risk. i dont think the same holds true for parasound yet, i belive this particular amp was an anamoly. and doesnt represent parasound products as a whole. REGARDS SNOW

[cfrizz]

Thanks for the link. I see what you are saying Snow. However, it was 6-7 years ago, & Parasound has most certainly learned from that experience.

At best those reviews are very mixed. Some didn't like it because they stupidly over drove them but it's the amps fault? Morons. Anything will crap out if you mistreat it. Others thought they were good for the money spent & better than anything that could be bought at BB.

Check Parasound's Web site Snow, I don't think they market any low end products any more.

Bottom line is Parasound, Rotel, Sunfire, & Outlaw are all good high quality products & will get the job done.

[Mike Reeter]

I have both Adcom and Parasound...the Parasound is head and shoulders above the "sound" of Adcom.

But,this is IMHO of course:D

Now,I would like to get my ears on an Adcom 5802...that amp might change my way of thinking.

[GV#27]

Here's a review Stereophile did on one of Parasounds amps a few years ago.
They liked it but it had a grounding problem in the test system and I thought it was notable that a certain competitor gave them the fix for it.
http://stereophile.com/solidpoweramps/100parasound/

[reeltrouble1]

Sorry, but Parasound is a high quality company set solidly in mid-fi and on into true hi-fi, they have been a long respected manufacturer supported by the core membership of our fourm. These amplifier's are particularily noted for solid bass response, you just cannot get that without a well designed circuit, power supplies with quality capacitors and resistors and so on.

We have had many here use the Adcom products some still do, some don't.

Parasound is certainly not the end all of audio companies but then who is?? When looking for a ss design in your set up they are one of the companies to consider.

RT1

[GV#27]

Any of the Parasound amps designed by John Curl are likely to be very good.He is a brilliant designer.

[TB Cruzer]

Here is a nice little review of the Sunfire 5400. When funds free up I'm getting either a 5400 or 7400.

http://www.hometheatermag.com/preampprocessors/1106sunfiretgptga/