Lsi Speakers

[JimBRICK]

If you have them, what are you using to power them? I'm thinking of upgrading to the LSI but I want some opinions on what you use to power them so I know what I'm going to be budgeting.

thanks
jim

I'm thinking

lsi25 fronts
lsifx for surround
lsi7 for rears (6th and 7th channel)
lsic center

your usual Lsi system. I just need to know what is best cause they are power hogs. Only opinions from guys who have had the speakers and heard them in their houses thanks

Movies 80%
music 20%

[dane_peterson]

You'll find that people really tend to prefer the 15s over the 25s. The extra money you save can invest in a much better powered subwoofer than the one equipped in the 25s.

There are many different amplifiers that will suit the LSis, just make sure you have...

DRUMROLL...

at least 200watts/channel.

[McLoki]

I use a Cinepro 3k6. (you can get the specs from clicking on the link in my sig)

Cudos for checking out the amp prior to the speaker purchase. What pre-amp are you planning to run?

Michael

[dane_peterson]

McLoki, where did you get that 3K6 by the way? I haven't found any anywhere...

[polkatese]

These are Amps/Receiver that I have tried, and work really well with LSis (the degree of finesse, details, realism are some of the differentiating factors of why I chose to replace amps, not the adequacy to run them, current and wattage wise):

Rotel RSX1065 - 185 watts/ch @ 4 ohms
Krell 400Xi - 400 watts/ch @ 4 ohms (currently in place for 2 channels)
Gemstone Blue Diamond - 400 watts/ch @ 4 ohms - 7 channels (currently in place for HT)

hope it helps...

[MikeC78]

McLoki, where did you get that 3K6 by the way? I haven't found any anywhere...

I think he ripped it off?

[sickicw]

I would look into getting at amp that can double the power as the speaker drops from 8 ohms to 4 ohms, esspecially for your left and right speakers. Polkatese is using a Krell 400Xi for this, which is a good one. Then make sure you other speakers have high current amplification as well, but it doesnt have to be as good as your left and right speakers. Also look into getting dedicated power lines installed.

[McLoki]

McLoki, where did you get that 3K6 by the way? I haven't found any anywhere...
I got it off of audiogon a few years ago. There was one listed on there not very long ago. (http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampsmult&1175013769) In my opinion - they are well worth tracking down.

The company was sold off when the originator died on the operating table during heart surgery. The people who actually purchased the company (as opposed to just the name) and expanded the designs of the 3k6 started a company called Verastarr. They perform work on the Cinepro products as well. Here is their current design. (http://www.verastarr.com/ssa64.html)

Mine is in rougher condition than the one I linked above - but it was cheaper as well.

Michael

[G-2]

Running an Integra AVR (120WPC??) and they run like champs. We brought home several other speakers including some competatively priced Focals & some NOT competatively priced Dynaudios (still a bad idea). We listen to music 50% & HT 50%. The 25's had some real strange lows and perhaps just didn't work for our room. The 15's have an 8" passive radiator. Great all around sound, and we started out with LSi9's up front on Sanus UF34's. Moved them to the back and put the 15's up front. It would be great if you could find a place (or some friends or Polkies) that would let you borrow some different stuff so you could hear it in your space. Good luck!

[MikeC78]

I got it off of audiogon a few years ago. There was one listed on there not very long ago. (http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampsmult&1175013769) In my opinion - they are well worth tracking down.

The company was sold off when the originator died on the operating table during heart surgery. The people who actually purchased the company (as opposed to just the name) and expanded the designs of the 3k6 started a company called Verastarr. They perform work on the Cinepro products as well. Here is their current design. (http://www.verastarr.com/ssa64.html)

Mine is in rougher condition than the one I linked above - but it was cheaper as well.

Michael

That Verastarr is one awesome looking amp! Also puts out some amazing power according to the specs. Nice...

Mike

[mwaarna]

Since my current HT setup is my first, so i went with a used amp, which later down the road i am planning on upgrading.

I am using an Outlaw Audio 750 165@wpc 8ohms, 250@wpc 4ohms

It does the job, and i've never had to turn the dial greater than -8db, but then again i do live in an apartment building.

I am only powering a Pair of LSI9's and an LSiC.

Future plans are to get an LSI15's for the fronts and move the LSI9's back.

I also have a SVS PB12 plus/2 to help with the low end :D ... I might just get another pair of LSI9's and spend the extra money towards a better amp.

[JimBRICK]

maybe that is for the best geting the 15's instead. good idea. As for amp/preamp, I'm going to match them from the same company, I'm looking at rotel and NAD. I've also been thinking lsi9's for fronts and one of the new subs polk is releasing

[McLoki]

maybe that is for the best geting the 15's instead. good idea. As for amp/preamp, I'm going to match them from the same company, I'm looking at rotel and NAD. I've also been thinking lsi9's for fronts and one of the new subs polk is releasing

As an owner of the NAD T163 (and I have heard a Rotel 1066 in my system) I really do prefer the rotel sound with the LSi's compared to the NAD.

I guess it depends on the music you like, but for me the NAD/LSi combo sounds a little to laid back for my tastes. I am going to modify my NAD to see if I can get a better match with my LSi's and I will let you know how it goes.

With that being said - I know there are some killer deals out there on NAD equipment right now. There is a new NAD pre/pro that is supposed to be released this spring/summer and I think that may be driving the price drop on their equipment. (Rotel does not have any current plans for a new pre/pro that I have heard of.) Were it my money I would go with Rotel, but right now anyway, it would be alot cheaper to go NAD.

Good luck with your choice...

Michael

[LuSh]

Spec's really won't do much in terms of narrowing down a search but god gave you these two things that will. Your ears. If possible I'd recommend going to a dealer and hauling along a pair of LSi15's with you it might just be worth it. You might want to consider the Arcam AVR350 which should be able to keep pace with NAD and Rotel separates at roughly the same price points.

[janmike]

LSi9-Front
LSiFX - Rear
LSiC - Centre
Proceed AMP5
Proceed AVP-S

Good Solid, Stable Power.
Good Luck Jim.

[beardog03]

2 ch...Parasound HCA-3500
350w @ 8ohms
500w @ 4ohms

5 ch...Parasound HCA-2205A
220w @ 8 ohms
300w @ 4 ohms
(7`s & 9`s)(LsiC)

Cary Audio SLI-80 F1 SIG...Integrated
80 tube watts baby !

Take your pick !
These are the three rig`s that have the 9`s on em..!!

[kingkip]

parasound 1500

[cmy330go]

See Signature.;)

[Huck344]

McLoki, where did you get that 3K6 by the way? I haven't found any anywhere...


There is a used one for sale on audioclassics.com

http://www.audioclassics.com/detail.php3?detail=3K6&nav=cat

[knownalien]

in my sig. 4 channels of the 7500 power the 15's.

[doug lang]

Ditto see my sig.

[wingnut4772]

I used to have an Outlaw 7700 with my old LSi set up and was left wanting. I upgraded to an Earthquake Cinenova and they sounded much better. Now I have Von Schweikert speakers though...

[Pepi28]

Hey wingnutI have an all LSI system and was thinking about switching over to all von schweikerts. What kind of power do they need to? Are they easier to push then Lsi's or will I need more power for them? I have Sunfire sig. amps running my Lsi's.

[wingnut4772]

Hey wingnutI have an all LSI system and was thinking about switching over to all von schweikerts. What kind of power do they need to? Are they easier to push then Lsi's or will I need more power for them? I have Sunfire sig. amps running my Lsi's.

They require less power..they are rated at 6 ohms I believe.

[Denon Frank]

See sig. Very happy with the Carvin pro amps. Alot of bang for the buck.

[dane_peterson]

Here's a good deal on a powerful 4channel amp. Then just get a monoblock, and spend significantly less than one usually would for this much power: (Deal is for today only... $699 for a Marantz 375W x 4channel into 8ohms)

http://www.secondact.biz/product/MM9340

[slush]

Here's a good deal on a powerful 4channel amp. Then just get a monoblock, and spend significantly less than one usually would for this much power: (Deal is for today only... $699 for a Marantz 375W x 4channel into 8ohms)

http://www.secondact.biz/product/MM9340

Has anyone ever ordered from here? Any thoughts on that amp? Seems like a solid deal...

[MikeC78]

^That looks like one hell of a deal! If I didn't have an amp, I'd buy it right now just to try it!

Nice find Dane...

EDIT: The only thing that kinda sets me off on that amp, is the total weight... Not much of a big deal really, just makes me wonder if the channels have seperate power supplys?

The really nice thing is on the back of that amp that states "Manufactured in the USA"!!!:)

Mike

[sickicw]

700 seems like an OK price for that amp. However, the MSRP of 4,000 is just retarted! For that kind of money you can get a much much better krell amp.

I wouldn't be supprised if they bumped up the price just so they can say it's on sale for 83% off. I would not buy this just because its on sale.

[dane_peterson]

I would not buy it just because it's on sale either. However:

I've purchased nearly a dozen times locally from SecondAct. They have some of the best customer service around. (They even oftentimes reply to my late Saturday night e-mails within minutes!) In fact, my current TV and receiver were both purchased from 2ndAct.

The MSRP is the price it was brand new when it first came out. They would never ask that much for it. It's actually usually $1500. I've been waiting for it to go on Deal of the Day for months... of course just last week I finally bought an amp. lol

[McLoki]

Utilizing state of the art, high-speed MOS-FET switching designs with spectrum spread switching technology, Marantz has created a pair of multi-channel power amps that provide power that is up to 5 times more efficient than convention class A or AB amps. This efficiency means reduced heat...

Sounds almost like a digital amp or at least a carver design. Either way - that is a ton of power for not alot of money. If I needed an amp and didn't have a bunch of cash I would certainly give them a try. (hell get 2 and you end up with 8 chanels of high power amplification for only $1400.) - perfect for 7.1 with a DIY sub.

Also note that the description starts with the sentance save $600. I would guess from that the normal price is $1299.

Michael

Edit due to my lack of math skills... :rolleyes:

[MikeC78]

I would not buy it just because it's on sale either.

Would you guys simply not purchase an amp because it's on sale? I bought a couple amps "on sale" off Ebay, and I couldn't be any happier!

Hell, I even like the fact that it's refurbished! I think the amps are more reliable now than they are new, the problem is fixed if it had one?

Mike

[dane_peterson]

I think what he was saying is "don't buy something just because it's on sale".

Either way, good deal on a lot of power, bottom line. If I had $700, I'd probably buy it anyway, even if I didn't need it. I could do a comparison between it and the Sunfire.

[MikeC78]

I think what he was saying is "don't buy something just because it's on sale".

Either way, good deal on a lot of power, bottom line. If I had $700, I'd probably buy it anyway, even if I didn't need it. I could do a comparison between it and the Sunfire.

:confused: Pretty damn tempting, Hmmmmm..... What to do, what to do?? I'd love to do a comparison with my Monster amps, if I didn't like it I think I could always get my money back on the "bay"?

[MikeC78]

Sounds almost like a digital amp or at least a carver design. Either way - that is a ton of power for not alot of money. If I needed an amp and didn't have a bunch of cash I would certainly give them a try. (hell get 2 and you end up with 8 chanels of high power amplification for only $1200.) - perfect for 7.1 with a DIY sub.

Also note that the description starts with the sentance save $600. I would guess from that the normal price is $1299.

Michael

Hello Michael,

I think you are right... I'm going to do a little more investigating on this on Google to see what I come up with? I might just give this one a try?

Here it is on the website itself, http://us.marantz.com/Products/608.asp

Mike

[McLoki]

Hello Michael,

I think you are right... I'm going to do a little more investigating on this on Google to see what I come up with? I might just give this one a try?

Here it is on the website itself, http://us.marantz.com/Products/608.asp

Mike

Focus man - if you need the amp fine, but save your pennies for the new SVS Ultra sub.

Michael

[MikeC78]

Focus man - if you need the amp fine, but save your pennies for the new SVS Ultra sub.

Michael

:D LOL!! Yeah, yeah, yeah... Just sparked an interest that's all...

You are right once again, I'd rather save for the new PCU's!:)

[donedroolin]

I have only had my Lsi 15's and Lsic for about two months now. I am using Parasounds C-2 controller and the A-51 amp and these speakers sound awsome. I think the amp puts out 400 watts into 8 ohms. Works Great.

[McLoki]

:D LOL!! Yeah, yeah, yeah... Just sparked an interest that's all...

You are right once again, I'd rather save for the new PCU's!:)
Your wife is going to have to put you at work soon. It seems to be very expensive keeping you at home all day... :D :D

Michael

[donedroolin]

Hey sorry I messed up the A-51 is 250 watts into 8 ohms and for the Lsi's that are 4 ohms it will put out 400 watts into them. I would Totally reccomend the Parasound Halo C-2 and A-51 products they work AWSOME!!
GOOD LUCK with what ever you choose just make sure you get something with enough power. Like atleast 200 watts per channel. Oh yea when I was asking about things about this subject I was told to make sure it is continuos power to the speakers. Well have fun buying somthing thats part of the fun.

[MikeC78]

Your wife is going to have to put you at work soon. It seems to be very expensive keeping you at home all day... :D :D

Michael

:D Damn you Michael!!! Stop busting me out like that!!:o :D :p :eek:

I'm quit the shopaholic, I need to get off the internet.:o Damn...

Ohhh, BTW... My wife is working two jobs at the moment!:D :D

[dane_peterson]

I'm quit the shopaholic, I need to get off the internet.:o Damn...


You and me both. I spent $1900 in one week. :\

[mwaarna]

If any one gets this Marantz amp, post a review to how you like the sound of it...

How much of a difference in sound would i notice going from a 250wpc@4ohm to 400wpc@4ohm?

[MikeC78]

If any one gets this Marantz amp, post a review to how you like the sound of it...

How much of a difference in sound would i notice going from a 250wpc@4ohm to 400wpc@4ohm?

Depends on the amp, I'd say close to 3db?

[cfrizz]

This is where you get into diminishing returns. If your speaker is getting the maximum wattage it's rated for at 8ohms, then I doubt you will see a difference at 4ohms.

At least this is true for me. My Polks wattage is 250wpc, I was feeding it 205 with my Parasound. When I upgraded to my 405wpc Sunfire, the only place I noticed a difference was with my back speakers which weren't amped until I got the Sunfire. My L/R/C had previously been amped with 200-5wpc & I didn't notice any increase with the additional watts.

If any one gets this Marantz amp, post a review to how you like the sound of it...

How much of a difference in sound would i notice going from a 250wpc@4ohm to 400wpc@4ohm?

[RoosterD]

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[sickicw]

If any one gets this Marantz amp, post a review to how you like the sound of it...

How much of a difference in sound would i notice going from a 250wpc@4ohm to 400wpc@4ohm?

-The larger increase in power could mean that it has a better power supply with would usually mean that you will get more dynamic range (assuming your wall power outlet is not limiting the current; hint: get a dedicated power line).

- The ratio of power at 4 ohms to power at 8 ohms is more important that max power at 4 ohms (power should double as you half the impedance) assuming your max power at 4 ohms is more than about 50 to 100 watts.

[no-cure]

Hello,

I've been reading this and other forums but honestly, there's such a plethora of choices out there, one simply could get lost...so I decided to come here for some EXPERT ADVICE!!

Although I'm impressed with my LSI 15s (replaced Monitor 70, huge improvement), I believe I could do soo much better than driving them with my Denon AVR3806. My sig. tells you all my equipment, but I just purchased my Denon from Crutchfield two days ago (it replaced a 1 yr. old Onkyo TS603) and after reading reviews over reviews, I expected a significant improvement over my Onkyo. I guess I had high expectations, but honestly, I couldn't hear much of a difference, at least not enough to justify $1,300.

Since the LSI 15s have a 4 ohm impedance, they are quite hard to drive if one wants to maximize their high performance these high end speakers are known to produce. Now my Denon receiver is not rated to drive 4 ohm speakers so I tweaked it as much as I could (the Audyssey room equalizer didn’t really help the sound, I found it to do the opposite, so I’m just running it flat with no EQ). Maybe I messed up in setting up the system, after all the difficult and very complicated interface for Denon leaves a lot for desire, but still…I got it for the rave reviews it received for its audiophile capabilities. Now, I listen to HT 60% and music 40%, so needless to say I don't want to sacrifice musical quality over big loud distorted sound that one could hear at your local Best Buy or something. So my dilemma is:
1) should I keep the Denon receiver, and bi-amp my fronts using Zone 3 outs? Something tells me that by driving them with two amplifiers (albeit coming from the same receiver) should improve my sound…
2) should I get a preamp like NAD, Rotel, Outlaw, etc and use it in conjunction with my Denon?
3) Return it and try to find others?

Could I do this, improve my sound quality and still be under $1,300?

Thanks for advice guys!
Cheers, Ted

[dane_peterson]

I don't believe the Onkyo had preouts, so I wouldn't go back to that. I would definitely plan on getting a separate amplifier, as trying to power LSis with any AVR is far from ideal.
The Denon would make a great pre/pro. If that's in your budget, stick to it. Another option would be to get an Outlaw 990 and match it up with the Outlaw amp. They have some decent deals on B-stock units, too. This depends on whether or not you want HDMI switching/upconverting. If HDMI is a requirement, I'd stick to the Denon.
What I WOULDN'T do is pour more money into a preamp, when your problem lies in power in the first place. For a little more than $1300, my choice would go for a low-end HK receiver w/ preouts, and a 5-channel amp like Outlaw, B&K, Sunfire, Rotel, etc.

[no-cure]

I don't believe the Onkyo had preouts, so I wouldn't go back to that. I would definitely plan on getting a separate amplifier, as trying to power LSis with any AVR is far from ideal.
The Denon would make a great pre/pro. If that's in your budget, stick to it. Another option would be to get an Outlaw 990 and match it up with the Outlaw amp. They have some decent deals on B-stock units, too. This depends on whether or not you want HDMI switching/upconverting. If HDMI is a requirement, I'd stick to the Denon.
What I WOULDN'T do is pour more money into a preamp, when your problem lies in power in the first place. For a little more than $1300, my choice would go for a low-end HK receiver w/ preouts, and a 5-channel amp like Outlaw, B&K, Sunfire, Rotel, etc.

Dane, thanks for responding...
Ok, although I like the Denon's HDMI switching, it's not really a show stopper, mainly I got it because it received great reviews and it matches my stellar DVD3910 player. Now, do you know if bi-amping my speakers with the Zone 3 out from my Denon won't really improve my sound quality?

Also, how about getting a used Outlaw pre to go with my Denon? I tried looking at Audiogon but I'm not really sure what what these items go for 'previously enjoyed'.

Ted

[dane_peterson]

The bi-amping will not be worth your while. As stated before, trying to power LSis with an AVR is far from ideal. If you're trying to get good sound from your 15s out of an AVR, I'm afraid you're in for a big disappointment.

I thought I made it clear, but maybe not... don't spend more money getting a pre/pro. Your processing isn't the bottleneck here, it's the AMPLIFIER. So return the Denon, get a cheap AVR with preouts (like mentioned before, Harman Kardon would be a good choice), and invest the majority of your funds into a solid 200W/Channel amplifier.

[no-cure]

Yeah, you're right Dane, I'm not quite happy with my setup, hence me being here...so, bye-bye Denon, guess it's time to start looking again!

[cfrizz]

Welcome No-cure.

Your Denon is fine, it is just lacking power. What you want to get is a used amplifier of at least 200wpc. Look at Outlaws B-Stock. They have a 7500 & a 7700 up for sale. You can also check out Audiogon for Outlaws, Rotels, & Sunfires.

The key is to get as much power as possible & use your Denon as a preamp.

[no-cure]

Thanks for the welcome and your input guys, so under your advisement, I've been looking at:
1) Parasound Halo A52 (my top choice for looks)
2) Rotel RMB 1095
3) Krell 400xi
4) Outlaw 7500

What are your experiences with the above when used with the LSI15s? Right now I'm trying to discern thru finding them (they tend to be scarce expect the Outlaw), but quality is what I'm really after...but there's that small factor as well --> $$

[G-2]

The bi-amping will not be worth your while. As stated before, trying to power LSis with an AVR is far from ideal. If you're trying to get good sound from your 15s out of an AVR, I'm afraid you're in for a big disappointment.

I thought I made it clear, but maybe not... don't spend more money getting a pre/pro. Your processing isn't the bottleneck here, it's the AMPLIFIER. So return the Denon, get a cheap AVR with preouts (like mentioned before, Harman Kardon would be a good choice), and invest the majority of your funds into a solid 200W/Channel amplifier.

+1000 yes yes!! Our AVR is an Integra 6.5 and thank goodness it has pre-outs, because as Dane said, the LSi's were not happy until we added the 5150 and WOW what a difference, both in HT (we're 5.1) and Audio!! We just believe that the LSI's should be powered by a separate amp with at least 140wpc @4ohm. The 5150 we purchased used and it is mint all the way down to the original box, it deliver's 200wpc @4ohm and has really brought the LSi's to life! If you're running you LSi's off your AVR, you owe it to yourself to find an external amp to use on them (provided you've got the pre-outs on your AVR).

[JimBRICK]

So after listening to everyones opinions and actually hearing the speakers now. I WAS BLOWN AWAY. Dont think I'll be upgrading for a while after this.

system I heard

lsi9 fronts
lsi7 rears
psw505 sub
lsic center

cant remember his amp and preamp but I was blown away so its on, thank you for you help everyone

[dane_peterson]

Glad you're satisfied with the speakers. Just make sure the equipment can support the speakers properly. As they always say, a chain is only as strong as its weakest link. :)

Have fun--this hobby can be extremely satisfying. :)

[JimBRICK]

and expensive, now I just need a better turntable

[no-cure]

Thanks to everyone, I became wiser and went looking again, so...I returned the Denon, got a Yamaha RXV1600 as a pre and currently waiting for my Parasound Halo 52! I got the Parasound off Audiogon, for 1,600 shipped...

What do you guys think?

[cfrizz]

Personally I think you should have kept the Denon. There was nothing wrong with it. You simply needed a more powerful amplifier which you will have with the Parasound.

Why did you switch receivers?

[McLoki]

Personally I think you should have kept the Denon. There was nothing wrong with it. You simply needed a more powerful amplifier which you will have with the Parasound.

Why did you switch receivers?I am guessing because he had just purchased the reciever and could still return it. Since he was not going to use the amplifier section, he saved about $600 by purchasing a cheaper AVR with pre-outs. That gave him a little extra money to spend on his amplifier.

He actually listened to the advice of the forum - it threw me off too at first :) :p :)

Michael

[no-cure]

I am guessing because he had just purchased the reciever and could still return it. Since he was not going to use the amplifier section, he saved about $600 by purchasing a cheaper AVR with pre-outs. That gave him a little extra money to spend on his amplifier.

He actually listened to the advice of the forum - it threw me off too at first :) :p :)

Michael

Exactly my logic...I got the receiver from Crutchfield 1.5 weeks ago, and returned this weekend. And with the money I saved on the Denon, I got the Yamaha RXV1600 (THX 2 certified as well) and the LSIC center channel to match my fronts (got a deal from Sound Advice for 1,000). I don't know, I personally did not enjoy the experience with the Denon AVR, too complex to operate, and simply put, the Yammie sounded much better to me and is more intuitive to operate.

My Halo A52 should be coming in tomorrow (brr, :D ) and I've done some research but I can't seem to find anyone using this Yammie as a pre with the Parasound amp. I know the weakest link in my chain would be the Yammie (LSI15s, Parasound A52 and Yamaha RXV1600) but how would these components mate? I like the Yammie, but it's nothing like the Parasound C1...which will come laaaater down the road once I pay these babies off!!!

Like I told my very patient girlfriend (bless her heart), this is not an obsession (or is it??) it's my hobby!

Once again, I appreciate all's advice! Cheers!

[no-cure]

McLoki,

Looking at your impressive equipment line up, looks I'm following your footsteps: I'm really enjoying the LSIs, they even kick ass with my underpowered Yammie. I just watched Mr. and Mrs. Smith last night, and boy, I thought the neighbors will be knocking down on my door...

Btw, how do you like the Blue Jeans cables?? I'm using Audioquest Type 4 speaker cable and copperhead interconnect (between my DVD and AVR). Are Audioquest cables overpriced for what they offer??

[McLoki]

I have tried some audioquest interconnect cables in my system quite awhile ago. I thought the bass was a little thin in them compared to blue jeans cable (the bass was heavier, boardering on bloated in the BJC by comparison).

I thought the highs were better with the audioquest cable though.

Based on the recent changes I have made in my system - I was thinking of changing some of my cables around. I do really like blue jeans cable as a inexpensive but good cable as you are building your system. Once the system is where you want it though - different cables can give you that last little bit of synergy in your system. That is about the point I am at.

IMO - It is not about what cable is inherently better than another - it is more what cable works better in your system than another. If your system is thin in bass, BJC may work great for you. If you think your system is a little laid back maybe a cable that has better detail will be what you want.

The Speaker cables from Blue Jeans cable (10 white) I really like. I have not tried alot of different speaker cables in my system though, so I may not be the best to compare them for you.

Good luck in your search and let us know what you end up with. Personally I would change cables last and get ones that compliment your system. Don't spend big bucks on them first or you will end up selling them or building a system around your cable choice.

Michael

[McLoki]

I'm using Audioquest Type 4 speaker cable and copperhead interconnect (between my DVD and AVR). Are Audioquest cables overpriced for what they offer??

You are using a digital cable (optical or coax) for audio between your DVD player and your AVR correct?

[no-cure]

You are using a digital cable (optical or coax) for audio between your DVD player and your AVR correct?

I'm actually using two Audioquest copperhead analog cables when I listen to CD/SACD (Yammie CD input, Pure Direct mode) , but when I'm watching a DVD, I'm using the DVD input with an optical link connection (while my HDMI cable goes right into my TV)

[no-cure]

I know, cables could be even more confusing, with the skin effect, the conductivity level, the resistance, etc. I got the Audioquest Type 4 for my speakers and I'm very happy, although I have not done an A/B test...one more thing to test, return, get something else.
But given your advice Michael, I think I'll get 5 BJC interconnects to go in between the Yammie preouts and the Parasound amp. Which type should I get?? And I guess I just go and buy them direct from bluejeanscable.com??
Thanks, Ted

[no-cure]

FOR SALE:

By the way, I need now to depart from my beloved Monitor 70 that served me very well in the last year. I'm posting my sale here since I can't yet post a new thread.

1) Pair of Monitor 70s, black, no scratches, like new condition, asking $600/pair OBO
2) CS1 center channel, black, like new condition, asking $125 OBO
3) Onkyo TX-SR603 home theater receiver (90W/ch, 7.1 DD, DTS), like new asking $380 OBO

All items are 1 year old, and come with everything, papers, original boxes and manuals, and a 2 year Circuit City warranty left over. I prefer the speakers to be an Orlando sale due to difficulty in shipping, but I could ship everything else.

Thanks, Ted

[McLoki]

But given your advice Michael, I think I'll get 5 BJC interconnects to go in between the Yammie preouts and the Parasound amp. Which type should I get?? And I guess I just go and buy them direct from bluejeanscable.com??
Thanks, Ted
Their LC-1 looks to be an excellent cable and what I would recommend.

What I have (and mentioned above) is the 1505F. That was their cable recommendation prior to them developing the LC-1.

Order directly from bluejeanscable.com (http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/6channel/index.htm) (be sure and order 5 cables - 6 is the default configuration on the page I linked to)

Michael

[cfrizz]

Cool! I love a good deal. Enjoy your terrific system No-cure. Do let us know how the combo of LSI's & Yammie sound.


I am guessing because he had just purchased the reciever and could still return it. Since he was not going to use the amplifier section, he saved about $600 by purchasing a cheaper AVR with pre-outs. That gave him a little extra money to spend on his amplifier.

He actually listened to the advice of the forum - it threw me off too at first :) :p :)

Michael

[JimBRICK]

I was actually thinking of using my rxv1300 as my pre and that emotiva amp LPA-1. Or just pay for the amp and preamp combo they have for 899

http://www.emotiva.com/products.html

and thats with free shipping

[MSALLA]

I was actually thinking of using my rxv1300 as my pre and that emotiva amp LPA-1. Or just pay for the amp and preamp combo they have for 899

http://www.emotiva.com/products.html

and thats with free shipping

Do any of the members have an opinion on these? Man, these are CHEAP!!!!!
5-channels 125 @ 8ohms for $499.00. How do they sound?

[no-cure]

Cool! I love a good deal. Enjoy your terrific system No-cure. Do let us know how the combo of LSI's & Yammie sound.

All right, so I had a late night last night setting up my new Parasound A52 amp ...I only had a chance to listen to 2 ch pure/direct mode Diana Krall and Michael Buble. Here are my first impressions:
1) the first thing I noticed was a much lower and defined frequency response
2) both Diana's and Michael's voices were much clearer and fuller
3) the stage seemed to be more opened up
4) these CDs never sounded as good in my living room :) :D
5) The only drawback: the A52 did warm up a bit, even with a 2ch playback, so I only presume it will get warmer during a HT 5.1 playback

Now, my LSI15s are still new, barely had them for 3 weeks, while amp gear is also new, so I would definitely wait a while longer for all of them to really break in. By the way, I'm familiar with my speakers needing about 50+ hrs (I'm yet to reach that) to break in, but what is the recommended break in usage for the Parasound? Or does it even need break in time? The manual mentioned nothing on this subject.

Cheers!

[SolidSqual]

I have a Halo A23. I just got my Lsi15s today. My A23 is already broken in so I can't give you a review as to the before and after with the LSis, but I can say that once I broke in my amp, my RTi8s sang. Although the Rti8s are inherently bright, they became smoother once the amp ran for about 100 hours.

[cfrizz]

Major coolness! Enjoy!:D

[a_mattison]

Do any of the members have an opinion on these? Man, these are CHEAP!!!!!
5-channels 125 @ 8ohms for $499.00. How do they sound?

Looks a little scary to me. The literature sounds like it was written by a 15 year old. Hopefully 15 year olds didn't put the amps together.

[no-cure]

Looks a little scary to me. The literature sounds like it was written by a 15 year old. Hopefully 15 year olds didn't put the amps together.

Yes, I agree, I think I'm too poor to afford cheap stuff that may impenitently break over and over...however, Audioholics.com gave this Emotiva combo a pretty nice review. Looke here:

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/amplifiers/emotiva-ultra-theater-series

[JimBRICK]

Emotiva has been given lots of great reviews. They started by selling on
av-123 but moved to sell their own products

[Monster Jam]

Looks a little scary to me. The literature sounds like it was written by a 15 year old. Hopefully 15 year olds didn't put the amps together.

I ran across the owners manual to my old Samsung TV I bought in 1992 in Korea. No where is the name Samsung written on it. The manual had no model number for the TV anywhere and poorly translated english. I chuckled as I thumbed through it thinking about the strides that company has made to what it is today.

[the crane]

Yes, I agree, I think I'm too poor to afford cheap stuff that may impenitently break over and over...however, Audioholics.com gave this Emotiva combo a pretty nice review. Looke here:

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/amplifiers/emotiva-ultra-theater-series

Would love to hear if anyone has run this Emotiva setup with the Polk LSi9's. I am looking at running 3 9's behind an accoustically transparent screen in my HT and wanted to run them with the Emotiva LPA-1 7 channel amp. 225 Watts x 5 and 95 Watts x 2 running 4 ohm speakers.

Any advice? I want to pick up a pre/pro and amp for these guys and not break the bank.

[no-cure]

Would love to hear if anyone has run this Emotiva setup with the Polk LSi9's. I am looking at running 3 9's behind an accoustically transparent screen in my HT and wanted to run them with the Emotiva LPA-1 7 channel amp. 225 Watts x 5 and 95 Watts x 2 running 4 ohm speakers.

Any advice? I want to pick up a pre/pro and amp for these guys and not break the bank.

Well, price wise I don't think you could do any better than the Emotiva setup ...especially since Audioholics gave the Emotiva MPS1 7ch amp of of the year award for 2006!!!

However, I strongly suggest looking at Audiogon to find some sweet deals for used pre/pro and amps, like Rotel, Nad, Parasound, Outlaw...Actually I think I just saw a Nad c162/c272 combo...But like all of us, we're $ constrained, so go with what your wallet tells you!

Good luck and let us know what you end up doing!

[JimBRICK]

theres a good deal on a rotel in the classifeids here on polk