SVS advice

[powerlord]

I can buy a Pc 20-39 right now used for 370.00 in excellent shape,bargain or too high on the price?I need to know fast,and thanks!:)

[Sherardp]

Buy it and dont look back

[danger boy]

buy it. that's a good price. you'll love it.

[MattN03]

I'd say go for it!

[gvg45]

If I was you I'd be all over that!

[Ron Temple]

Another yeah here ...

[powerlord]

OK,I need more advice on this,the sub is a 2001 sub and he says that it's not a PCi or a PC plus,so what is the rating on this sub amp?I know the PCi had a 300 or so watt bash amp and the plus a 525 watt amp.Does any of this matter?Will I still get the same powerful sound out of this one compared to the others?:confused:

[danger boy]

it may just be a PC SVS subwoofer.. I think the only difference betweent the PC and PCi was the "i" stood for improved driver. that should be the only difference. SVS updated their drivers around that time.. 2000, 2001 IIRC

[powerlord]

So still a good deal at the new price of 325.00?

[danger boy]

So still a good deal at the new price of 325.00?

YUP it is

[engtaz]

if you don't let us in on it.

engtaz

[powerlord]

I now own an SVS PC 20-39,I hope it's everything everyone says it is!My bass has been lacking for some time.:D

[Ron Temple]

I now own an SVS PC 20-39,I hope it's everything everyone says it is!My bass has been lacking for some time.:DYou're gonna have plenty of bass. SVS will probably let you upgrade to the newer driver as well at a reasonable price (if you ask nicely and give them the serial number). Congrats...

[powerlord]

Thats great! Then it would be a PC+ right?Except maybe for the amp?Would you go for the plus 12.3 upgrade or the NSD?

[Ron Temple]

Thats great! Then it would be a PC+ right?Except maybe for the amp?Would you go for the plus 12.3 upgrade or the NSD?You'll be able to get the NSD driver. The Plus requires 3 ports not the single you'll have. Still the NSD is supposed to be as good as the 12.2 Plus driver which is pretty stellar.

[powerlord]

I'm going to pick it up right now,so I'll be reporting and providing pics shortly!

[danger boy]

I'm going to pick it up right now,so I'll be reporting and providing pics shortly!

run don't walk.. :D ;)

[powerlord]

My first reaction when I saw this was Whoa,that sure is big!And then he was nice enough to let me demo this thing with a pair of Snell Type C/V's,and a host of Jolida seperates.The sub was in the middle of the room so there was no proper setup to speak of,I was impresssed at the bass it added to the Snells,he didn't have the sub set up properly so the real demo will be this evening,I just went through heel surgery friday so I'm still trying to get it into the house,this guy knew nothing about audio setup,he inherited all his gear from his father,and he's selling almost all of it,he even had a real nice set of Proac studio speakers I fell in love with,so if any of you two channel polkies want to get in contact with this guy just shoot me a PM and I'll hook you up with him.He has some very nice gear!:D

[MattN03]

My first reaction when I saw this was Whoa,that sure is big!

I think about all of us who have purchased a SVS cylinder said the same thing when it arrived :D I know I did!!! lol

[powerlord]

I can't thank you guys enough,what a sub!I put a pic of the SVS kicking the RSP912 out of it's house and moving in, on my system showcase,I have the sub at just under 1/2 volume,0 degrees out of phase,with the x-over wide open and the boost at 3db.I just played the napalm scenes on We were soldiers,the take off scene from Apollo 13,and the brontosaurus stampede on King Kong and all I can say is i wish i would have listened to the advice of others a long time ago,I thought this SVS talk was all hype,and I was so wrong,this is a beast!And to top it all off,the damn thing is actually musical,I am in bass bliss,I'll talk with you guys later,I got movies to watch!:D

[Ron Temple]

They are pretty awe inspiring :D . Awhile ago, I'd had mine for a couple of months, I got a chance to try out a Velo DD15 for a month...a great sub. Imagine my surprise, the Velo was slightly superior, subjectively, in music (I mean that it was tighter and blended better, but not everyone would agree that it was just slight), but just couldn't hold a candle to the SVS in the bass blockbusters that really bring it. For the difference in price, it's definitely not a dog musically and priceless for that HT kick on a budget.

Enjoy

[danger boy]

I can't thank you guys enough,what a sub!I put a pic of the SVS kicking the RSP912 out of it's house and moving in, on my system showcase,I have the sub at just under 1/2 volume,0 degrees out of phase,with the x-over wide open and the boost at 3db.I just played the napalm scenes on We were soldiers,the take off scene from Apollo 13,and the brontosaurus stampede on King Kong and all I can say is i wish i would have listened to the advice of others a long time ago,I thought this SVS talk was all hype,and I was so wrong,this is a beast!And to top it all off,the damn thing is actually musical,I am in bass bliss,I'll talk with you guys later,I got movies to watch!:D

Yeah, SVS, they're ok i guess. :p
Now you need another one to match that one.. LOL JK!

Hey enjoy your new found bass/house shaker. :D ;)

[janmike]

Congrats, I know you will enjoy the power of that SVS.

[powerlord]

I love this sub!I have another question though,my recievers X-over is set at 80hz and you can't change that,do I bypass the reciever x-over and use the sub x-over wide open?Or should I just go with the recievers.I'm running it wide open right now and recieving alot of bass.

[danger boy]

turn it down at the sub... most subs are set to about 10 O'clock on the volume knob.

[Ron Temple]

If your receiver has a fixed xover then opening up the xover on the sub is correct if there's no bypass on the amp. Later models have a crossover bypass switch. If it's too much you might try staggering the cross on the sub to 70 and letting the rollof between the sub and receiver blend. You may get cancellation...experiment and see how it sounds.

[powerlord]

Thanks guys,yes there is a bypass switch so I'll bypass the sub amps x-over and run it open.And I'll mess with the volume.It's hard to stay out of the volume with this sub!

[powerlord]

You wanna hear a 20-39 shine? Put in Mark Morrison's return of the mack in and listen to the control this bad ass has!:D Sorry guys for the thread drag but this is the first real sub I've owned!

[Strong Bad]

LOL, someone is enjoying their new sub! Good man!

BTW, I have the PC-Ultra. It's an absolute dream!

Now, if you have the original Star Wars (Episode 4) on DVD, put it in, crank it up and enjoy the Star Destroyer flying overhead in the opening scene. Oh yeah, about 3-4 seconds before the Stormtroopers blow open the door on the rebel ship, feel the serious lowend rumble!

You're about to have alot of serious fun re-discovering your movie collection. I have! :D

John

[powerlord]

PC Ultra! I can't even imagine what bass you are feeling and I couldn't imagine more than I have,I put a Bass Mekanik cd in from my car audio days and it got real sweet at 27 hz and I mean in your bones sweet!Best money I've spent so far on my system!:D

[danger boy]

did you have your doubts before you heard it? Now you know everything that people have been saying is true.. they are remakable subs.

[Strong Bad]

PC Ultra! I can't even imagine what bass you are feeling and I couldn't imagine more than I have.

It's absolutely sick what this thing can do.

Alot of my movie viewing is at night and I have to keep the volume lower. What really impressed me is how full the Ultra sounds even at lower volume.

Congrats on your sub!

John

[MrNightly]

Dude, welcome to the club! I just wish I had more time to re-watch all my favorite DVD's! My new SVS toy puts out quite the bass too! Very impressive!

[powerlord]

Well with a little bit of pleasure there must be pain,the sub is cutting on and off now.I never got the volume above 1/2 and double checked the cables and power chord,it comes on for a couple of minutes then goes off,it thumps on turn on and turn off,anyone got any clues here?I love this sub and if it needs to be repaired then so be it,I still say money well spent.This sub was manufactured in 2001 so maybe the old power supply is ready for the graveyard,I don't know.Should I get in touch with SVS? I have the original reciept.Or just go with a local electronics repair?:(

[Strong Bad]

Contact SVS!

[Ron Temple]

Contact the seller, a new amp is $250, he must have known.

[powerlord]

His reply was "I have never had a problem with it".And the guy has over 3000 feedback on ebay at 99%.It sounded fine at his place and didn't cut out,so I can't go pointing fingers now.There were two other guys there watching us demo this.And it wasn't doing this last night or this morning,everything has it's time,I might have pushed it a little too hard who knows on the bass mekanik cd.I'm thinking a local electronics repair would be alot cheaper than shipping this back,plus there is no warranty on it anymore.I also thought it may be the voice coil on the sub.

[powerlord]

The guys at SVS rock! They are sending me a new bash amp at cost,it should be here next week sometime,and this will be an upgrade,the amp in this earlier model is a 200 watter,the new is 325 watts and after looking at the sub inside and letting the tech know what it looks like he said it sounds like a 12.3 sub,it's a silver cast basket triple stack magnet,so it seems as though the previous owner upgraded the sub,maybe that could be the reason for the failure,who knows?!:D :confused:

[Strong Bad]

Thats awesome! Polk and SVS are dead on with their Customer Service Depts.

A 200 watt amp in the sub really is underpowered. The extra power will definitely help. BTW, my PC-Ultra has a 525 watt amp. It's really sick! The new subs they designed that are coming out around July are going to be insane!!!

Essentially, with the new amp and the newer driver, you'll have a pretty up to date sub compared to the ones being sold currently.

Have fun test driving it with the new amp!

John

[powerlord]

Oh yeah, I'm more stoked now than I was when I first got it,now I'll have more power and I've got an upgraded subwoofer,so I should really be awestruck! The 325.00 I spent and the 150.00 for the amp gives me a new 20-39 for much less than a new one,worked out great!:p

[MrNightly]

My SVS has a 600 watt bash amp. That thing just freakin' ROCKS!!! The more the merrier right?

[powerlord]

I guess they came out this way back then,I have the reciept and the manual,the manual even has the SVS sticker still on it never installed.It has the amp with the cooling fins.I will be upgrading at the end of the summer to the Ultra.:D

[Strong Bad]

I guess they came out this way back then,I have the reciept and the manual,the manual even has the SVS sticker still on it never installed.It has the amp with the cooling fins.I will be upgrading at the end of the summer to the Ultra.:D


By summers end, the new ones will be out. The new PC-Ultra is supposed to have the new 13.2" driver with a 700 watt amp.

Sick man....REAL sick! SVS has done well with their subs up to this point and I have no doubt these will not disappoint.

Chime back in when you get your current one rolling again.

John

[Sherardp]

Post pics too

[powerlord]

I will,and I already added a pic in my showcase.

[TB Cruzer]

Buy it. I love my SVS.

[powerlord]

Probably the best support I've ever had to deal with in SVS!My woofer is the old one from 01' and the amp is a rated 190 watter,they are sending me the 325 watt bash and the upgraded NSD woofer all at cost just because I'm a valued customer!!And to think I thought this sub was balls,my God what kind of bass can I expect from the upgrade,this is gonna be great! Ed,Tom and Erick from SVS rock!:D

[engtaz]

That nice to hear in today's world.

[Ron Temple]

I thought they might help you out...they usually hook customers up. Don't expect a night and day improvement with the NSD driver, it will be better, but the older driver's are still very good.

[Strong Bad]

Probably the best support I've ever had to deal with in SVS!My woofer is the old one from 01' and the amp is a rated 190 watter,they are sending me the 325 watt bash and the upgraded NSD woofer all at cost just because I'm a valued customer!!And to think I thought this sub was balls,my God what kind of bass can I expect from the upgrade,this is gonna be great! Ed,Tom and Erick from SVS rock!:D

Thats awesome to hear! I know you're freaking out with excitement!

We want pics when you do the "surgery". Show a pic of the old driver VS the new one and the 2 plate amps.

Rock on man!

John

[powerlord]

You got it man!

[powerlord]

OK guys I had to put the pics of the before and after amp in my system showcase,the new amp weighs about 4 lbs. the old amp with the huge transformer weighed about 12 lbs. SVS lost my money order so I just got it today,and they didn't provide me with the + and - terminal wires for the amp so I have to go get some spades that will fit it.I'm kinda worried at how light and insignificant this new amp is.Must be some magic in there to get 325 watts out of it.:) :confused:

[Strong Bad]

Wow, that is pretty significant.

Now, get crackin on getting that thing in there! I'll check back later. Going to chill out, fire up a movie and unleash the PC-Ultra! Grrrrrrrrrr!!! :D

John

[powerlord]

So far so good,it sounds lower than the original amp and definately more authority,I am happy and satisfied,I put U-571 in and it was a noticeable improvement.I still can't believe that something as light as this new amp puts out like it does,bass is much cleaner also!Hats off to SVS for the deal and such a decent product!:D

[engtaz]

Congrats

[Strong Bad]

You put the new NSD driver in also, right?

Great to hear of the improved results.

[Dr. Spec]

The new amp is a digital hybrid BASH design which makes a lot of power with a very light chassis/platform.

Glad you are loving the upgrade and everything turned out OK - if you need anything else just ping me at Sales.

[powerlord]

What's up ED! Thanks alot bro,I was going to call you guys and thank you tomorrow.The sub I have now and the new NSD are the same impedance right?This thing goes very low now,seems it didn't do that before.Would the upgrade from the sub I have now to the NSD be worth it? And you guys rock about taking care of your customers,I haven't had service like that ever from any company!:D

[Dr. Spec]

The NSD woofer is a large upgrade from your original woofer. It has more linear stroke, higher thermal power handling, lower distortion, and more output.

[powerlord]

I'll be ordering one shortly ED and thanks again.I can't wait to get my Ultra at the end of the summer! And this thing rocks!:D Also Ed if I have upgraded the amp and the sub is this now a PCi?