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08-27-2002, 11:14 AM
I have a few questions about the Denon 2802.
How does the bass management work for 2 channel music play back? In other words, Can the sub be used during 2 channel play?
Is there a way to turn off all DSP when I want to listen to just 2 channel music (meaning I want no special digital effects)?
Does it sound good for 2 channel music?
any help and info about the receiver would be great! Thanks!
08-27-2002, 03:52 PM
I've wondered that for my receiver as well. I don't know if you can get the sub to play in 2 channel listening.......(not that this helps you........i'm just curious too) :-)
08-27-2002, 05:14 PM
Unless I'm mistaken, most receivers will send a signal to the subwoofer in "Stereo" mode. "Direct" is another 2-channel listening mode that can supposedly provide a more accurate reproduction of the source material, but this mode does not utilize the sub. Neither of these modes relies on any sort of Digital Signal Processing, unless your receiver has the option of digital upsampling (the ability to "upconvert" the frequency of the source material). I don't believe this applies to the Denon 2802. I hope this is helpful, and someone please correct me if I am wrong.
Receiver -- Onkyo TX-DS797
Mains -- RT800i's
Center -- CS400i
L/R Surrounds -- f/x300i's
Rear Surround -- CS245i
Sub -- PSW450
08-27-2002, 05:23 PM
I have 2802. It uses subwoofer in both "Stereo" and "Direct" modes. The direct mode shuts down all DSP, and Tone Defeat shut down all tone circuits. Subwoffer can be turned on/off using the speaker configuration settings.
08-27-2002, 10:58 PM
I was thinking Direct would turn off the sub signal. Izafar, are you using a sub cable or speaker cable? I could see why it would play for both if you were using speaker level.
08-28-2002, 07:34 AM
I have the Denon 5800. If I have the LF and RF set to small and the Sub is set to yes. The Sub will work for all two channel sound. Direct, Pure Direct, Stereo, and the 5/7 Stereo.
08-28-2002, 08:18 AM
I'm thinking that once you set the sub to 'on', it will operate in any mode you choose.....if you want to listen to your speaks in stereo with out the sub, you will have to go back to the menu and choose sub to 'off' or 'no'.
08-28-2002, 08:39 AM
For the most part that is a true statment, but you also have the option to have your speakers turned to Large and your sub on. While listening to movies I will hear the sub kick in, but when listening to music it will seem to be off. I think that with the Large setting the cross over to the bass is much lower may 60 or 40 Hz, and with the Direct or Pure Direct it will shut off the sub all together.
08-28-2002, 12:15 PM
Hello, I have a 2802. As long as you have the receiver set (in the speaker configuration section) to sub yes/on, the receiver will send a signal to the sub through the sub out rca jack, regardless of what mode you are in. It will give you the option of setting the crossover frequency to either 80 hz, 100 hz, or 120 hz. If you set your mains to large, it will give you the option if sending just the LFE signal to the sub, or the LFE+mains to the sub. Good luck.
08-28-2002, 01:48 PM
Thanks everyone for your responses!
It will really help in my decision!
08-28-2002, 09:23 PM
I own the Denon avr3801.Yes the sub is on in all modes.In the 3801 you can set each mode with different levels.
So when you pick direct,you can set the sub level to off,in stereo to -10db and such.Each time you switch sound modes the setting remain.
The remote is different between the 2 receivers but the 4 way arrow keys and the enter buttons will scroll threw the levels of all sound modes and there you can change the setting manually for each.
I think your receiver should beable to do this as well.
08-29-2002, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by seaslug
"Je pense, donc, je suis." -- Rene Descartes
Descartes was French, but he wrote in Latin.
Cogito ergo sum.
08-29-2002, 01:33 PM
A thousand pardons, my dear friend. I am only familiar with the French and English translations of Descartes' metaphysical musings, and I must admit, I have never even read the text in its entirety. The concept of systematic doubt, however, has always been fascinating to me, and I quote the philosopher in his native tongue as a form of reverence for the wisdom which preceded the writing.;)
08-29-2002, 01:39 PM
That's funny. I've never seen the words "French" and "Wisdom" that close together before.
08-29-2002, 01:50 PM
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