Alec Baldwin.

[cmy330go]

Anyone heard the Alec Baldwin voicemail message to his daughter?

LINK (http://www.tmz.com/2007/04/19/alec-baldwins-threatening-message-to-daughter/)

I don't think I'll be watching any of his work ever again. There is just no excuse for talking to a kid like that.

[PolkThug]

Little brat probably deserved it.

[cmy330go]

Little brat probably deserved it.

Brat or not....That's unacceptable.

[ohskigod]

I dont know man. I hate Alec Baldwin for most of his political stances, but I think I feel his pain here

gotta look at the whole picture.

what he did was wrong, flat out wrong, but can we not look into history and see that during divorces, custodial parents can handle things in a way that are solely planned to drive the other parent nuts?

and why the hell was this so quickly released to the press? I smell a rat.

there is more to this story than just the audio clip. again, he was wrong, I wont argue that, but I think he was driven to a snapping point, which can often happen to divorced couples, where one spouse just relishes in torturing the other, wether it hurts the kid or not. see it to often to discount the possibility in this case.

[avguytx]

I honestly have no clue as to what history is behind them as I don't keep track of celebrity happenings. But, that sounds about the norm for Hollywood crap.

[tommyboy]

... I really don't see what the problem is, I've heard this many times from my mother when I was younger( and no I'm not a complete pyscho :p that hates her, we had(and still have) a great relationship). She (for what we know from him) always disrespects him, I think she deserves it.

Just a quick question, wasn't there quite a few threads on the forum saying how kids can do whatever they want these days? He didn't beat her to death, he's a father, and he wants her to respect him. I'm more surprised that this recording was even released.

just my 2 cents

[bobman1235]

I try to ignore actors' political and personal lives when regarding their work. If I didn't watch movies involving people I didn't like or agree with, I wouldn't watch anything.

[ohskigod]

... I'm more surprised that this recording was even released.

just my 2 cents



DING DING DING DING!!!!!!!! thats correct :D

[bobman1235]

Baldwin claims his ex-wife (Basinger) released it to make him look bad.

[cmy330go]

Baldwin claims his ex-wife (Basinger) released it to make him look bad.

Which it does.

To yell at, and punish a child is one thing. To speak abusively, and tear them down is another.

[PolkThug]

Don't spank them, don't yell at them, just make them sit by themselves for 5 minutes and everything will be ok. :rolleyes:

[ohskigod]

parents make mistakes, they lose it, say things in the heat of the moment. judging him to be a bad father overall based on a snippet recording released ON PURPOSE for the sole reason of damaging an ex you loathe would be wrong. again, what he said was wrong, but I'm looking at all aspects. The childs interests were NOT the motivating factor of releasing that tape, plain and simple.

[shack]

Alec Baldwin - Father of the Year :rolleyes:

"You are a rude, thoughtless little pig."

"You don't have the brains or the decency as a human being,"

Never in my life have I been so upset with my children to have uttered these words. All it takes to be a father is sperm. It takes a lot more to be a parent. Baldwin is definitely lacking in the latter.

[shack]

Oh...the rant was because...

Baldwin was apparently upset that she did not answer her phone for a planned call.

[ohskigod]

an angry parent losing it, coupled with typical arrogance (and hollywood arrogance at that), is pretty much what we got here.

the important thing is that Alec know he was wrong to say what he said.

and perhaps not releasing family info to the public out of vindictivness would be prudent too.

[Demiurge]

I dont know man. I hate Alec Baldwin for most of his political stances, but I think I feel his pain here

gotta look at the whole picture.

what he did was wrong, flat out wrong, but can we not look into history and see that during divorces, custodial parents can handle things in a way that are solely planned to drive the other parent nuts?

and why the hell was this so quickly released to the press? I smell a rat.

there is more to this story than just the audio clip. again, he was wrong, I wont argue that, but I think he was driven to a snapping point, which can often happen to divorced couples, where one spouse just relishes in torturing the other, wether it hurts the kid or not. see it to often to discount the possibility in this case.

Agreed, not a fan at all of Baldwin, but I think as a parent he has every right to discipline his kid. I didn't realize parents weren't allowed to swear. I have heard a lot worse from my dad when I was a little bastard as a kid. He called her a pig? Oh noes...she'll probably never recover and have all sorts of self esteem issues.

Quite frankly, I'm more surprised to hear that Baldwin actually lets his balls drop from time to time.

I can also relate to the divorce thing. The last paragraph is spot on. Usually one parent moves on and the other spends a lifetime trying to get the other one. Kids are the easiest leverage in that, however wrong that may be. :(

[PhantomOG]

I thought kids suffered in all divorces. Apparently its only celebrity children.

My parents are still happily married and so am I so I definitely won't begin to judge someone else who is going through it.

[shack]

I thought kids suffered in all divorces. Apparently its only celebrity children.

Kids are often pawns in divorces...through NO FAULT of their own. Unfortunately, too often what is best for the kids (who probably would rather have both their parents...not fighting) is secondary to the "wants" of the combative adults.

[Demiurge]

^^^

That's exactly it.

I guess the one thing is that this is his daughter and not his son. I do think discipline needs to be different for girls than boys.

He was wrong, but I don't think he deserves to get raked over the coals for it either. He's trying to be a dad, which is more than can be said for a lot of folks, and for whatever reason the kid ignores him. That's disrespectful on behalf of the kid and I can see why he's pissed off. Who knows what role his ex-wife plays in it.

Of all the things he said, the worst was saying a negative thing about her mother. My dad and mom were both guilty of that when I was growing up and it's what I hated the most.

[MSALLA]

I'd like to know what the kid did before I make judgement. (Eventhough I would never talk to my kids like that. )

[engtaz]

I learned a long time ago that if your not around to see what made it happen the do not judge what you do not know. "those without sin throw the first stone"

[Sami]

If this was released by Kim Basinger, one has to ask why. If that's the case, look no further on who deserves the bad parent label. The #1 rule is not ever use your kids to try to hurt your ex.

[mrbigbluelight]

If Alec is upset with the ex-, and gave her a good rant, that'd be one thing.

But with the "you're a rude, thoughtless little pig" thing, and the "I'm going to come out there and straighten you out" ditty, he put himself smack dab at ground zero for Crap City.

[jflail2]

Exactly Sami, Kim Bassinger is as much to blame for releasing it as he is for saying it (at least in my book.) There was no need for the public to ever hear that.......and of course he crossed the line as well.....

In the end, I feel sorry for the kids. I'd give up all the $$ in the world for the good, wholesome upbringing my parents worked very hard to give my sister and I growing up. I just don't think Hollywood kids have that wholesome upbringing as an option; considering how often the parents just aren't there....That must be a weird world to grow up in.

[cindy100]

I think that was totally uncalled for regardless of her age or what she might have done. I don't feel a child, or anyone for that matter, deserves to be talked to that way. He's suppose to be the adult.

[MSALLA]

Just the fact that he left what he said on an answering machine really says alot about what kind of person he must be. Like I said, I don't know what the kid did. But saying things like that to your kid is not a sign of a good characture. To leve something like that on the machine....thats just a hot head blowing off steam in words that are damaging to his kid. Just my 2 cents.

[aaharvel]

http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_audio/0419_baldwin.mp3 (NOT SAFE FOR WORK)

It's a shame, whomever is to blame. My guess is Basinger has custody of the child, and probably fills her mind with contempt for Baldwin on a 24/5 basis (deserved or not? - who knows). Another family down the drain. :(

[bobman1235]

I'd love to see what would be revealed if the whole world ever had a view into any of your most vulnerable moments when you said or did something stupid.

I'm not defending what he said, it's reprehensible, but we all have our moments of weakness where we make mistakes. From what I've heard about this situation between Baldwin and Basinger, it's been an absolute nightmare, even the strongest of us crack eventually, even if it is aimed at an innocent person.

[dorokusai]

Unless a child can legally be employed and bring money into the home, they are of no value to me. Good for him.

[liordra]

I don't think I'll be watching any of his work ever again.

so, basically no more SNL for you.

btw, there is a nice mischa burton nip slip picture in that site:cool:

[cmy330go]

so, basically no more SNL for you.

btw, there is a nice mischa burton nip slip picture in that site:cool:

I never watch SNL. Too many hours of stupidity between laughs.

[MacLeod]

I hate em both. Bassinger and Baldwin are a bunch of dolts. She's being a bitch about the divorce and he's just a moron. Im sure the little girl is being a brat but this is what you get when you raise a child with time out as the "big punishment". To quote the late, great Robin Harris, "You got to beat yo kids!"

[BobMcG]

Hummm, Alec Baldwin, Alec Baldwin, Alec Baldwin... Lets see... lemme think... Yeah, yeah, I know of the ASSHAT. I thought the name rang a bell. Yeah, ASSHAT Baldwin. Whata stand up guy.

I'm impressed.

[PolkThug]

Alec Baldwin is one of my favorites. Glengarry Glen Ross 4 eva!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TROhlThs9qY

[JimBRICK]

I dont know man. I hate Alec Baldwin for most of his political stances, but I think I feel his pain here

gotta look at the whole picture.

what he did was wrong, flat out wrong, but can we not look into history and see that during divorces, custodial parents can handle things in a way that are solely planned to drive the other parent nuts?

and why the hell was this so quickly released to the press? I smell a rat.

there is more to this story than just the audio clip. again, he was wrong, I wont argue that, but I think he was driven to a snapping point, which can often happen to divorced couples, where one spouse just relishes in torturing the other, wether it hurts the kid or not. see it to often to discount the possibility in this case.

I think you hit that on the head

[TennesseeOutlaw]

Personally, I now have more respect for Mr. Baldwin than I ever did before. Granted, my choice of words would have been slightly different, the simple fact that he is trying to be a father speaks volumes.

I am sure that there are many (Hollywood) children that would love to be yelled at by their father and/or mother rather than never hear from them at all.

Maybe if we had some more parents willing to discipline their children this country and world would have a lot less Eric's, Dylan's, and Cho's!

Kim, IMHO, is much more at fault in this situation and has made a very minimal occurence a major internationally known ordeal. I am sure w/o a doubt that Kim actually made her daughter NOT answer the phone to drive him to this rant.

What did anyone gain from this situation at all??

[cmy330go]

....the simple fact that he is trying to be a father speaks volumes.

I would hardly call that kind of speech, and abuse fatherly.

Maybe if we had some more parents willing to discipline their children this country and world would have a lot less Eric's, Dylan's, and Cho's!

I agree with the above, however what he was doing was not "discipline", it was straight up demeaning, and abusive. To say: "You are a rude, thoughtless little pig." and "You don't have the brains or the decency as a human being," to your 11 year old daughter is flat out wrong. There are more effective ways to discipline a child that will still leave them with some self-respect, and a true incentive to do the right thing.

I am sure w/o a doubt that Kim actually made her daughter NOT answer the phone to drive him to this rant.

"w/o a doubt"??? That's nothing but pure speculation!!! I don't deny that her decision to make this public, and to use her own daughter as leverage is in bad taste. But I'm sorry the above statement is just ridiculous.


What did anyone gain from this situation at all??

Exactly!!! Baldwin proved that he is a pathetic excuse for a father. Basinger is showing the levels to which she is willing to stoop. Last but certainly not least...the daughter probably feels more animosity towards her parents, and therefore has even less desire to please them by doing what's right, and to top it all off.....no doubt feels worse about herself than she did before.

It just KILLS me that some people neglect to see what they are doing to their own children.

[BobMcG]

Maybe it's just me but I've never had one ounce of respect for the dolt and, well, I can't say I have even less now because not having any to start out with rather limits me.

[Nisqually Dave]

I find it interesting that there are those who will defend him on this. He has made himself a public figure as an actor and also as an activist, He has chosen to tell us how we should live and what is right and wrong.

When you set yourself above everone else then you can expect to be treated the way he has been treated. He also went on to abuse Kim Basinger and threaton to come out and take care of her.

As for her releasing this it was a court record, It was supposed to be sealed but any one of many at the court could have sold it for big bucks?

Finally I have been through the trials of divorce with kids involved and it is terrible. But this was over the top, and he deserves the abuse he is recieving now.

[stereo_luver]

I lost it for THAT Baldwin a while back. He makes me sick. Want to get my blood boiling...start a conversation about that a*shole.

[stereo_luver]

BTW....almost EVERYBODY in Georgia HATES that Bassinger biotch!!! Go and but a town somewhere else Ho. A transplanted DAMN Yankee by way of Cali. Sorry....didn't mean any offence to those from north of Tennessee or west of Mississippi. Did I spell all that right? They just piss me off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[scottnbnj]

this shitbird losing his temper and being a belligerent fool is nothing new and shouldn't surprise anyone.

there's not much left to say here except that i think the girl is young enough that the mother is responsible to have her ready to talk to her father at the scheduled time. if the answering machine pick-up happens as often as baldwin says there's no reason that he isn't mentally prepared to behave better and focus his attention where it belongs, getting mom to understand her responsibility. even if he can't get it right with his ex and she tries to instigate blow-ups like this, instead of dragging his daughter into this and giving her more reason to not to want to talk to him, he has the means and track record to know to and build a paper trail to let the court do it.

[schwarcw]

Eight years ago Alec went on the Letterman show was bashing George W. and stated that he would move out of the country if GWB was elected President. If I were the judge, I'd tell him to get the eff out of the USA and come back on 2009 and I'll see you in court. What a jagoff!

[THX 3417]

He’s not a bad actor like “The Getaway” and “The Hunt for Red October”
“some place deep, some place deep”.

[marcpam]

Brat or not....That's unacceptable.

you are the type of parent whos kid is running wild because you are afraid of tough love and spanking your kids. I can see in the future and your kids will be drop outs and bums. You are the prime reason why America is so soft and laws are unbelievably a joke. You are too quick to jump to conclusions and don't give YOUR OWN KIDS a time to speak there side if they do wrong. You are a dispicable human.

[Polk65]

I dunno. "The Hunt for Red October" left me disappointed and I blame both the actor and the director for that. The book had a faster pace and kept me more interested.

Alec Baldwin has always stuck me as a dry actor. Beetle Juice and his voice in Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within are the only memorable titles I have enjoyed.

[THX 3417]

Oh I see. Is it true he’s into politics and is he running for governor or mayor?

[Polk65]

Baldwin is one of those actor's that project themselves as expert authority figures on social or global issues. As for running for office I haven't heard but it's a citizen's birthright. Kudo's to Sarkozy, he's got a pair.

[THX 3417]

Well I hope not he looked chilling in “Mercury Rising” a real evil villain he played as a, government covert black ops with supercomputer that can encode a signal within multiply interchanges within milliseconds. It’s a smashing film worth a view and a good score by John Barry.

[bobman1235]

Who dug this one up?

[Polk65]

Beetle Juice !
Beetle Juice !
Beetle Juice !

[cmy330go]

you are the type of parent whos kid is running wild because you are afraid of tough love and spanking your kids. I can see in the future and your kids will be drop outs and bums. You are the prime reason why America is so soft and laws are unbelievably a joke. You are too quick to jump to conclusions and don't give YOUR OWN KIDS a time to speak there side if they do wrong. You are a dispicable human.

Do you really think it's wise to make comments like that about someone you do not know at all?:rolleyes: I can only assume you're doing it just to stir up some attention for yourself. In the meantime I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and give an honest response to your pathetic post.

Nowhere in this thread did I say I was against punishing a child. It just so happens I'm a strong believer in punishment such as spanking, grounding, etc. However....verbal/mental abuse is unacceptable. Tearing down a child that probably already suffers from low self-esteem (like so many from broken homes do) can have serious long term effects. Those who resort to tearing their children down verbally are weak, and damaged themselves, and should not be allowed to raise kids.

[MrNightly]

Do you really think it's wise to make comments like that about someone you do not know at all?:rolleyes: I can only assume you're doing it just to stir up some attention for yourself. In the meantime I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and give an honest response to your pathetic post.

Nowhere in this thread did I say I was against punishing a child. It just so happens I'm a strong believer in punishment such as spanking, grounding, etc. However....verbal/mental abuse is unacceptable. Tearing down a child that probably already suffers from low self-esteem (like so many from broken homes do) can have serious long term effects. Those who resort to tearing their children down verbally are weak, and damaged themselves, and should not be allowed to raise kids.

Classy reply to a dirty post.

[marcpam]

Do you really think it's wise to make comments like that about someone you do not know at all?:rolleyes: I can only assume you're doing it just to stir up some attention for yourself. In the meantime I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and give an honest response to your pathetic post.

Nowhere in this thread did I say I was against punishing a child. It just so happens I'm a strong believer in punishment such as spanking, grounding, etc. However....verbal/mental abuse is unacceptable. Tearing down a child that probably already suffers from low self-esteem (like so many from broken homes do) can have serious long term effects. Those who resort to tearing their children down verbally are weak, and damaged themselves, and should not be allowed to raise kids.

:P :P

[PolkThug]

Classy reply to a dirty post.

I'm still waiting for the dirty reply.

[marcpam]

I'm still waiting for the dirty reply.

:P :P

:P :P

[Rivrrat]

This guy has proven himself to be a first class jerk on so many occasions in the past, I wasn't the least bit surprised to hear this tape. What I really wish is he would've kept his word and moved to France when Bush got elected the second time.

[Toxis]

Father of the Year Nominee

[cmy330go]

Seems I was right.

[marcpam]

Seems I was right.

:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

[Rivrrat]

you are the type of parent whos kid is running wild because you are afraid of tough love and spanking your kids. I can see in the future and your kids will be drop outs and bums. You are the prime reason why America is so soft and laws are unbelievably a joke. You are too quick to jump to conclusions and don't give YOUR OWN KIDS a time to speak there side if they do wrong. You are a dispicable human.

Brilliant post. Was alcohol involved?

[sucks2beme]

Who cares. Let these guys run wild. I got enough problems of my own
to get all worked up about celebrity stuff. Other than maybe the Paris Hilton prison vidio!:D

[zombie boy 2000]

You are a dispicable human.

Guilty as charged. You wanna smell my finger?

[ohskigod]

you and that god@mn finger get in to waaaay too much trouble :D

Marcpam, an internet post does not a dispicable human being make................dumbass!

[zombie boy 2000]

Dispicable pickles picked periodically pique petulant penguins dispicably.

+1 on the whole "dumbass=marcpam" theory

[marcpam]

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[MrNightly]

:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p

Oooh... do you feel the maturity?

"Oh ya, I feel it."

[zombie boy 2000]

Senor Noche has both guns blazing today:D

[MrNightly]

Senor Noche has both guns blazing today:D

Bring it on, Biatch!!! ;)