Bioshock Demo is Available (360) [Archive]

cheddar

08-13-2007, 09:48 PM

The storyline and attention to detail in art direction really set this shooter apart. I had two hacked bots and a load of ammo waiting for the thugs breaking in when it ended. :( Looks like an Aug. 21st release. One week and we can play it for real...this year just looks better and better for gaming...should be one interesting release month after another up through early 2008.

Kearin

08-13-2007, 10:43 PM

Yeah with the price cut, HDMI and 65NM processors being added to premiums and Orange box, Bioshock, Call of Duty 4 and Halo 3, I cant wait to snag one and have a happy end of the year.

punk-roc

08-14-2007, 04:22 AM

I was also very, very impressed with the demo. This has been one of the main games i've been waiting for... I love the retro feel of the game and the attention to detail is phenomenal... must d/l to check it out for sure...

Jason

Face

08-14-2007, 09:11 AM

I'm definitely picking this up, the demo was a lot of fun.

Shizelbs

08-14-2007, 03:41 PM

Downloaded most of it last night. I'm sure I'll play the demo tonight sometime. I forget, but I believe I preordered the game.

lanion

08-14-2007, 07:29 PM

cheddar

08-14-2007, 09:58 PM

Looks like the hdmi premium got the same heat sink upgrade as the elite. Looks like the only way to be sure you get an upgraded unit is to buy a 360 in either flavor with hdmi. Those have the new (hopefully quieter and more reliable) dvd-roms too. I think it's a good rule of thumb to leave any non-hdmi equipped 360s on the shelf...

Gaara

08-14-2007, 10:06 PM

Sorry to dissapoint, but the Xbox elite is still the only SKU with the new 65nm chipset.

link: http://kotaku.com/gaming/screeeeee%21/new-batch-of-xbox-360s-not-yet-sporting-new-falcon-chipset-289035.php

Now I am confused, last I checked non of the Xboxs used the 65nm chip yet and they were supposed to start releasing them Q3 07?

cheddar

08-14-2007, 10:15 PM

Now I am confused, last I checked non of the Xboxs used the 65nm chip yet and they were supposed to start releasing them Q3 07?

Gaara, if I'm reading the article correctly, the cooling configurations on the hdmi premium and elite are identical indicating that neither has the 65 nm chip and are an effort to fix cooling problems with the older machines (note the added copper heat pipe carrying heat away from the graphic chip to the mini radiator in front of the CPU heatsink).

BaggedLancer

08-16-2007, 07:39 PM

None of the new boxes have the 65nm chip yet, they just have the upgraded heatsink but still the same Zephyr chip.

We won't see the Falcon chip for atleast another 2-3 months.

On a side note, all new xboxes produced June 2007 and beyond are coming with BenQ drives which are ultra quiet......another nice little feature.

Shizelbs

08-16-2007, 08:06 PM

I played the demo for about 10 minutes last night before I had to talk with my wife. I hate it when she does that.

Anyways, I wasn't expecting much.

The game is very impressive. I cannot wait for it to come out now. It looks incredible. There is some really nice deep bass as well. This quickly moved up to must buy status for me. The demo is so good I honestly don't care if there is multiplayer or not.

BIZILL

08-16-2007, 11:24 PM

also the newer 'premium' 360's are fitted with hdmi out and not just the elite.

i played this demo last night and i must admit, i got a bit scared. dark house. mega clean bass. but the game was still a bit too dark, even though i played with the contrast setting they give you. and normally with my surround set-up, i can easily localize an enemy target. but with the small rooms and also the fact they can be multiple stories, i had a hard time relying my ears to find the enemies. of course, they might have planned for the sound to be this way. i found myself very frightened. ...somebody hold me.

Gaara

08-17-2007, 12:54 AM

Bagged + Cheddar thanks for the info. I have been waiting for the heat and noise levels to come down on these units, good to hear about the new drives. Now to decide to wait for the 65nm chip or not.

Shizelbs

08-17-2007, 01:20 PM

Bagged + Cheddar thanks for the info. I have been waiting for the heat and noise levels to come down on these units, good to hear about the new drives. Now to decide to wait for the 65nm chip or not.

You've made it this long. Wait just a little while longer.

BaggedLancer

08-17-2007, 01:35 PM

Once again, just want to clarify since some are posting a bit of misinformation. NEITHER the Premium HDMI or the Elite HDMI currently have the Falcon 65nm chip. BOTH have the Elite motherboard with the Zephyr 90nm chipset. BOTH have the new upgraded heatsink design:

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=616884

Both have the new BENQ quiet drives.

Supposedly they are claiming a significantly less failure rate with these new units.....we'll see. I few sites ive been looking at say the Falcon 65nm will be here in the by the very end of the year or beginning next year.

dexfx69

08-19-2007, 10:45 PM

Stunning visuals, but the "violent needle to the arm" is disturbing to say the least! :)

Gaara

08-20-2007, 12:33 AM

Stunning visuals, but the "violent needle to the arm" is disturbing to say the least! :)

Reminds me of the game Galerians for the PS, you had to shoot up to keep your powers up.

mutelight

08-20-2007, 10:33 AM

TOMORROW!!!!! AHHHHHH I CAN'T WAIT!!!!

/spaz out

cheddar

08-20-2007, 01:15 PM

Looks like the local frys has the 360 version for $49.99. Any better deals out there?

Gaara

08-20-2007, 01:19 PM

Looks like the local frys has the 360 version for $49.99. Any better deals out there?

Circuit City has the same deal, $49.99 for 360 version and $39.99 for PC.

avelanchefan

08-20-2007, 03:47 PM

Well I guess I will be throwing in my copy in about 5 minutes...I have had it for a week, but was afraid to fire it up due to getting it so early. Also have Blue Dragon on my desk too.

FYI: Blues dragon is a three disk game.

I'll post my review later tonight.

Shizelbs

08-20-2007, 09:53 PM

How the hell have you had it for so long?

BIZILL

08-20-2007, 11:02 PM

did you get on the toys r us bandwagon when they broke the street release date ave?

avelanchefan

08-21-2007, 04:26 AM

Nah they have had it released on torrents since last Tuesday, but I was to afraid to play it because of the M$ police. Same with Blue Dragon, release date of 8/28, but I know they have had it out since early last week some time.

BTW- the game is incredible, it took about 3 hours to finish the first level but I did a lot of hunting for money, EVE syringes and med kits.

Level two starts with another battle with an Adam. And that MF'er is hard to kill

krabby5

08-21-2007, 09:42 AM

wow..it takes balls to mod a system with a 100% failure rate..:eek:

avelanchefan

08-21-2007, 10:57 AM

wow..it takes balls to mod a system with a 100% failure rate..:eek:

Wow Krabby that all you got? FYI- I have 3 360's and have not had one die on me yet, and these boxes are used on a daily basis.

How's that over glorified, Hollywood abandoning Blu-Ray player treating you?

Oh yeah and tell Sony thanks for screwing up the release of GTA4

cheddar

08-21-2007, 11:16 AM

avelanchefan

08-21-2007, 11:22 AM

I am playing it on regular/medium difficulty. And sorry cheddar I have no clue on to how much larger it is than the demo because I never downloaded the demo.

cheddar

08-21-2007, 11:27 AM

Thanks Avelanche,

I guess I'll find out myself soon enough. I usually like to try it on the hardest difficulty all the way through, but it sounds like the bosses are tough just on default...

krabby5

08-21-2007, 11:59 AM

Wow Krabby that all you got? FYI- I have 3 360's and have not had one die on me yet, and these boxes are used on a daily basis.

How's that over glorified, Hollywood abandoning Blu-Ray player treating you?

Oh yeah and tell Sony thanks for screwing up the release of GTA4

Geez...I wasn't even bashing you..it was more of a joke than anything

And I don't have or want a PS3...

I have a 360 along with the HD DVD addon...:rolleyes:

BaggedLancer

08-21-2007, 12:00 PM

I have a 360 along with the HD DVD addon...:rolleyes:

Lies, where are the pics to back it up......you're just covering up now! ;)

(kidding)

Sherardp

08-21-2007, 12:29 PM

Just ordered my copy, I hope the soundtrack gives both my PB12 Plus 2's a work out.

krabby5

08-21-2007, 12:53 PM

Lies, where are the pics to back it up......you're just covering up now! ;)

(kidding)

look at my gamercard....The Bigs is currently in my drive:)

Demiurge

08-21-2007, 01:31 PM

look at my gamercard....The Bigs is currently in my drive:)

hehe, at least your gamer card actually shows you've played an XBox 360 game...:p

krabby5

08-21-2007, 01:35 PM

hehe, at least your gamer card actually shows you've played an XBox 360 game...:p

and over 5000 achievement points...as worthless as they are:D

they should have a stat that shows how much time you've wasted playing games as well..:o

Demiurge

08-21-2007, 01:57 PM

and over 5000 achievement points...as worthless as they are:D

they should have a stat that shows how much time you've wasted playing games as well..:o

Most MMORPGs have that. Kind of scary when you have a few months of your life invested in a game. :eek:

cheddar

08-21-2007, 02:38 PM

and over 5000 achievement points...as worthless as they are:D

they should have a stat that shows how much time you've wasted playing games as well..:o

Yeah, like oblivion...lol.

Shizelbs

08-21-2007, 02:41 PM

Shit, I don't want to know how much time I've played. Seriously, it would be depressing. It would send me into a shame spiral.

I don't think I'll get around to picking up the game until tomorrow. 5% chance I'll get it tonight. However, my wife goes out of town on Wednesday, so I full expect to get some serious game time in while she is gone.

BIZILL

08-21-2007, 03:02 PM

yeah, shelbz, i ALWAYS see you online...but at least you change up games every now and again, unlike me....cod3.

Shizelbs

08-21-2007, 03:02 PM

yeah, shelbz, i ALWAYS see you online...but at least you change up games every now and again, unlike me....cod3.

No shit. Whats up with that. Need to borrow something? Send me a game invite. I'll still play COD3 with you.

krabby5

08-21-2007, 03:21 PM

Yeah, like oblivion...lol.

Oblivion took some hours away from me...:o

BIZILL

08-21-2007, 03:49 PM

i haven't really lended much time in quite awhile. tried to get back into it last weekend, but my wireless setup was giving me issues. and speaking of oblivion, i never even touched that stuff. i knew before-hand the time it would bleed from my life in order to play it.

BIZILL

08-21-2007, 03:50 PM

and to cheddar... it's nice seeing you come outta your ps3 shell just a little bit. i must admit, i was quickly becoming lactose intolerant!

cheddar

08-21-2007, 04:59 PM

Bioshock is definitely a 360 game I've been looking at ever since I first saw the trailers. The demo sealed it. Just have to figure out where I'm gonna get it from.

biffbyun

08-21-2007, 05:48 PM

looks like an awesome game with lots of eyecandy and an good story line.

biffbyun

08-21-2007, 05:49 PM

BTW, water affects are amazing. Just got finished watching a trailer.

mutelight

08-22-2007, 12:36 PM

Played multiple hours yesterday. Absolutely BRILLIANT game.

biffbyun

08-22-2007, 12:48 PM

I think I'm going to dl the trailer tonight.

cheddar

08-22-2007, 01:38 PM

There are some crazy ass collectors out there. While searching for the game on ebay, I came across collector's editions and even faceplates going for over $100. :eek:

Shizelbs

08-22-2007, 03:15 PM

Apprarently the wide screen aspect for the game is fubared. Its essentially a chopped and stretched 4:3 ration.

Boo

mutelight

08-22-2007, 09:59 PM

I just completed the game no more than an hour ago and I honestly cannot complain about the aspect ratio although I have heard the game suffers from that issue. Absolutely excellent game.

Shizelbs

08-22-2007, 10:22 PM

Finished already? Replay value?

The spin I've read is that the presentation given by widescreen is the intended one. The full screen 4:3 format is not the intended way, and it adds more image. So, the widescreen is the normal, and the 4:3 is a scrunched widescreen aspect, not the WS being a chopped 4:3.

Whatever. I just want to play an awesome game.

Can anyone confirm that the rest of the game has awesome amounts of bass?

mutelight

08-23-2007, 05:16 AM

There is an increible amount of bass with phenomenal sound design from beginning to end. In regards to replay value I would definitely play it again, I really love the style and type of atmosphere in the game. Found myself a couple times just standing there taking in the visuals.

Shizelbs

08-23-2007, 01:32 PM

Agreed. The sound effect mix and use of all channels is superb. Its hard to say for sure, but this is probably the best game ever for overall sound.

BaggedLancer

08-23-2007, 03:59 PM

just picked the game up today. Gonna play it tonight

BaggedLancer

08-23-2007, 10:42 PM

Just made it to Neptunes Bounty.

A few things:

1. Harvesting chlildren is badass
1a. Telekenesis is badass
2. The shotgun is amazing against big daddys(bouncers)
3. Ammunition in vending machines....brilliant idea
4. This game rocks.

BaggedLancer

08-24-2007, 01:41 PM

Just made it to Farmer's Market.....I feel like I am relatively far in the game but for some reason I don't think so....haha.

The power to the people things are awesome, I upgraded the damage on my shotgun(absolutely insane) and upgraded the damage on the grenade launcher.

Killing the Rosie's is so easy with the improved shotgun....then you gotta love harvesting the little children.

So far I love the game. How far is everyone else?

mutelight

08-24-2007, 01:55 PM

You are pretty far but still have a ways to go.

BaggedLancer

08-24-2007, 01:57 PM

You are pretty far but still have a ways to go.

I've only found 2 weapon upgrades so far, is that normal or did i miss some? I try and look in every possible room and search everything but the place is so huge.

mutelight

08-24-2007, 05:58 PM

That sounds about right.

Shizelbs

08-24-2007, 05:58 PM

I demoed the game to one of my friends down the street last night. His initial reaction was how good my HT sounded. So, that felt nice, but it says alot about the sound quality of the game. While it has awesome graphics, it was the top notch sound that really impressed him.

I know for a fact he had some HT envy that night.

BaggedLancer

08-24-2007, 07:53 PM

Finished upgrading my shotgun, favorite weapon so far.

I just deployed the Lazerous Vector, I know I'm getting close to a good fight so I gotta stock up on ammo. My wallet is full and I haven't been able to pick cash.

Shizelbs

08-24-2007, 08:04 PM

Do the upgrades to the shotgun make the reloading any faster?

BaggedLancer

08-24-2007, 09:34 PM

Do the upgrades to the shotgun make the reloading any faster?

Nope, just shoot faster and do more damage.

Learn2Aim better :D

fyi, exploding buck is badass.

cheddar

08-24-2007, 09:50 PM

Must say, I'm pretty excited to get my mitts on this one. Didn't realize the audio was done so well too. It's in the mail...:D.

BaggedLancer

08-24-2007, 10:56 PM

alright mutelight, need a hand. Just killed cohen after gathering the 4 photos, opened his muse box. Now i Have no more goals and im totally lost....what do i do?

BaggedLancer

08-25-2007, 01:46 AM

Figured it out.

Game over. That's the fastest I've ever beat a video game. Time to do it again on hard.

Edited for spoilers!

mutelight

08-25-2007, 02:12 PM

Watch it with the spoilers man.

Thanks for the edit Bagged. :D

Wouldn't want to ruin it for the others out there. I think I might have played through this game faster than any other game I have ever played, with the exception of Prey, because that game was mad short. Bioshock is just one of those games I could not put down. :cool:

avelanchefan

08-28-2007, 01:36 AM

Figured it out.

Game over. That's the fastest I've ever beat a video game. Time to do it again on hard.

Edited for spoilers!

Nice job Bagged, I have never been this hyped about a game in a long time.

Lefthanded favorite weapon...

1)Telekenisis
2)The ice
3)Bouncer becomes your friend
4)Twister (actually works best with a lot of enemies in one area, not so good going one one one with splicers, and zero effect on Big Daddy's)

Righthanded weapons
1) Crossbow (deadliest weapon I found, ammo is scarce)
2) Shotgun (Love the exploding Buck)
3) Machine Gun (Very damaging when the weapon is upgraded)
4) Chemical gun (I use this a lot due to a lot of ammo to be found for it.)

Things I really like/love. I love to hack shit up. I can't wait to hack machines! I am rescuing all girls, next time through I will harvest. I forgot what physical upgrade this is but I love it when the enemies touch you and they become shocked. (Sorry I am at work so I cant look it up) That is very effective against spider's. I also like the other upgrades you can aquire that helps with health, hacking, security.

It sounds like so much to take in, but the game is very seamless. And the flow of it is just perfect!

BaggedLancer

08-28-2007, 02:04 AM

Nice job Bagged, I have never been this hyped about a game in a long time.

Lefthanded favorite weapon...

1)Telekenisis
2)The ice
3)Bouncer becomes your friend
4)Twister (actually works best with a lot of enemies in one area, not so good going one one one with splicers, and zero effect on Big Daddy's)

Righthanded weapons
1) Crossbow (deadliest weapon I found, ammo is scarce)
2) Shotgun (Love the exploding Buck)
3) Machine Gun (Very damaging when the weapon is upgraded)
4) Chemical gun (I use this a lot due to a lot of ammo to be found for it.)

Things I really like/love. I love to hack shit up. I can't wait to hack machines! I am rescuing all girls, next time through I will harvest. I forgot what physical upgrade this is but I love it when the enemies touch you and they become shocked. (Sorry I am at work so I cant look it up) That is very effective against spider's. I also like the other upgrades you can aquire that helps with health, hacking, security.

It sounds like so much to take in, but the game is very seamless. And the flow of it is just perfect!

I'm at 37 out of 50 achievements right now, two more then I will have to rebeat the game this time saving the little girls rather than harvesting them.

The skill tonic you are talking about is called Static Discharge and yes, it's badass. Have you gotten natural camoflauge yet? That is by far the most helpful out of any tonic there is. Set the alarm off, don't move and you just fade away. Worked great when I was robbing all the storefront windows in Poseidon Plaza.

Don't forget to max out research, the bonuses are awesome as well.

avelanchefan

08-28-2007, 03:48 AM

I'm at 37 out of 50 achievements right now, two more then I will have to rebeat the game this time saving the little girls rather than harvesting them.

The skill tonic you are talking about is called Static Discharge and yes, it's badass. Have you gotten natural camoflauge yet? That is by far the most helpful out of any tonic there is. Set the alarm off, don't move and you just fade away. Worked great when I was robbing all the storefront windows in Poseidon Plaza.

Don't forget to max out research, the bonuses are awesome as well.

Yeah I have the Camo and your right it helps tremendously with the security cameras after they are activated. I have almost all of the research done to. I need a few more Pics of the girl, and I know I am in the third stage of the bouncers. The only one I am having problems with is the Nitro splicers. I am at a point in the game where I just don't see a lot of them. Not sure how many acheivements I have, but it is in the 20+ range.

Funny how we are taking the opposite routes of the game harvest vs. saving. Nice thing about saving the girls is you get rewards after so mant saves, so I think in the end it does make up what you lose "Adam" wise when you save them.

The security camera plasmid is the only one I rarely use. It's the one where you tag an enemy and the camera sends the helicopters after them.

Shizelbs

08-28-2007, 04:43 AM

What kind of rewards do you get for saving them?

avelanchefan

08-28-2007, 07:04 AM

What happens is that a recording starts after about the fifth save, and i think its Tennenbaum tells you she appreciates your efforts and there is a present waiting for you by a plasmid/adam buying station. You then got to that station and there is a teddy bear there. Usually it is 200 Adam, some coin and tonics.

Again it usually happens after 5 saves. I know it has happened to me at least 3-4 times.

Sherardp

08-28-2007, 08:04 PM

Just got my copy yesterday guys, excellent graphics, and the gameplay is fun. A little creepy with the voices in a 7.1 setup but definitely a worthy purchase. The bass is insane, my 2 SVS PB12 Plus/2 subs had the house shaking. Walls vibrating, literally. I could only get to the hospital scene last night, just got into it shortly, this weekend its on.

kuntasensei

09-03-2007, 11:55 AM

This is one of the first games to really push some LFE out of my system. I just bought an Onkyo 705 and used the MultEQ XT with my Polk/SVS setup. Man, this has some of the most brutal bass of any game I've played! The Big Daddys stomping around, the RPG turrets, and the rocket launcher are all scary to hear. With the SVS 20-39CS+ kicking and the Buttkicker under my couch going, the effect was AMAZING. Now I just need to find a pair of RTi38s so I can go 7.1 instead of 6.1.

avelanchefan

09-03-2007, 02:40 PM

Just finished the game Saturday night. Amazing and fun. Replay value will be high, but right now I am on to Tiger Woods 08, so the game will be shelved for a while.

For some reason I missed a few pictures, and I am thinking they are the turrets, helicopters, and cameras. (Never thought of that until now) Also missed a few weapon upgrade facilities. So I ended up with 39 out of 50 achievements. Not to shabby with one go around of the game.

BaggedLancer

09-03-2007, 03:51 PM

I in the process of beating the game a second time but this time rescuing the little sisters instead of harvesting them all.

Shizelbs

09-03-2007, 06:22 PM

I in the process of beating the game a second time but this time rescuing the little sisters instead of harvesting them all.

Thats what is up next for me.

Finished the game this morning. Just plain excellent. If there is anyone out there that is still deciding to get the game or not, you are stupid. Just go get it, its awesome. Its one of the best 10 games I've ever played, and probably will be the best game of the year.

I missed quite a few of the achievements as well, and I thought I was being pretty detailed in my searches and scavenging. Oh well, what a shame, guess I'll have to keep playing it some more.

AsSiMiLaTeD

09-03-2007, 06:52 PM

How would you rate the difficulty of this game, say against something like Gears of War as a first time player?

kuntasensei

09-03-2007, 07:06 PM

On Easy, this game holds your hand and builds you up to the more intense stuff gradually. Plus, there's no shortage of health packs... and even if you die, you just get sent to the nearest Vita-Chamber. Definitely easier to jump into than Gears.

AsSiMiLaTeD

09-03-2007, 08:37 PM

I played the demo and it wasn't too bad. I think I'll pick it up.

GoW absolutely kicked my ass. I bought it, played for about an hour and put it back on the shelf because I got too frustrated with it. I intened to give it another try, but probably need to get more comfortable with shooters first...

Shizelbs

09-04-2007, 02:54 AM

Its much easier than Gears.

Don't get too frustrated with Gears. I am very familiar with shooters, and even I took a while to get used to Gears. Its a totally different style of play. The things you do and choices you make in a typical shooter won't jive too well with Gears. You have to change your gaming behavior a lot for Gears. The reward is well worth the learning curve.

cheddar

09-04-2007, 08:37 PM

How would you rate the difficulty of this game, say against something like Gears of War as a first time player?

Just finished the game and I've got to say it's one of the best one player games I've ever played. Sound, graphics, storyline, everything very immersive and top tier. Extremely creepy on a full sound system. Just laying proximity mines sounds like you're blowing the dang launcher up with every mine. And you can even do stuff like play the piano or guitars. And even your own music sounds freaking creepy.

The one problem with this game is the difficulty. It really isn't meant as a challenge to FPS veterans. More like a moderate walkthrough to get to all the eye candy instead of focusing on getting ammo or combat tactics. When an upgraded wrench is better than a shotgun for close range and a crossbow beats a machine gun even when you empty a clip into the badguys, you know they could have done better to work on the gun play. I made it through on the hardest difficulty and got 46 out of 50 the first time through. A lot of that was done just by hacking the turrets and cameras so I had ample time to just explore.

But it's really easy to just get lost in the moment as you wander around the world. Although I enjoyed the tactics of gears more, bioshock was just a wonderfully immersive gameworld so you didn't want to be fighting all the time. And it is a lot longer than gears (if you explore), although people probably fire right through it 'cause they just can't put it down.

BaggedLancer

09-05-2007, 12:43 AM

Just beat it again tonight.....I'm now up to 43/50 achievements.....

A little spoiler to some of you, I know you will thank me later:

After you finish Cohen's Masterpiece, DO NOT KILL HIM. DOOOOOO NOT.

You'll see why later in the game, and you'll thank me.

Tonight was my 2nd time beating it and I wasted him not knowing that I needed him for something at the end till I looked it up. Don't make my mistake.

Tomorrow I am going to go back and hopefully finish picking up all the diaries. I also need to finish some research for the PHD achievement so I'll take care of that.

This time around I rescued all the little sisters, the ending was different.

Shizelbs

09-05-2007, 12:57 AM

Can you go back to other areas thru the bathysphere?

BaggedLancer

09-05-2007, 12:58 AM

Can you go back to other areas thru the bathysphere?

Yeppers. Just as you finish proving grounds, save the game before you go to the last elevator, You can run through any other level you want to get what you missed.

Shizelbs

09-05-2007, 01:30 AM

Yeppers. Just as you finish proving grounds, save the game before you go to the last elevator, You can run through any other level you want to get what you missed.

Rad. Thanks.

cheddar

09-05-2007, 11:16 AM

A little spoiler to some of you, I know you will thank me later:

After you finish Cohen's Masterpiece, DO NOT KILL HIM. DOOOOOO NOT.

You'll see why later in the game, and you'll thank me.

Tonight was my 2nd time beating it and I wasted him not knowing that I needed him for something at the end till I looked it up. Don't make my mistake.

Tomorrow I am going to go back and hopefully finish picking up all the diaries. I also need to finish some research for the PHD achievement so I'll take care of that.

Not sure about the Cohen thing. But a glitch in mine made him show up later even after I killed him (same loot each time). Are you referring to that or is there something else I needed him for?

Also, film is very cheap. Taking multiple pictures of everything until the bar stops increasing is worth it even with the copy shot penalty. Just get in really close to max out the shots.

I still have to get some diary somewhere too. But things like that are easy to miss. I've found stuff under staircases and tucked away in corners. Not sure I want to go back and look in every corner right now after all the time I spent on it this weekend. But I'll probably do it again at some point. I still want to see the alternate ending.

Edit: Just looked it up. Looks like the 360 has a glitch that allowed me to kill Cohen early and still get him to show up later on (That's one sick mofo to let live.). Maybe it has to do with me revisiting the second site to clean it out only after I completed a bunch of other goals. Could have reset it somehow...

BaggedLancer

09-05-2007, 02:11 PM

Not sure about the Cohen thing. But a glitch in mine made him show up later even after I killed him (same loot each time). Are you referring to that or is there something else I needed him for?

Also, film is very cheap. Taking multiple pictures of everything until the bar stops increasing is worth it even with the copy shot penalty. Just get in really close to max out the shots.

I still have to get some diary somewhere too. But things like that are easy to miss. I've found stuff under staircases and tucked away in corners. Not sure I want to go back and look in every corner right now after all the time I spent on it this weekend. But I'll probably do it again at some point. I still want to see the alternate ending.

Edit: Just looked it up. Looks like the 360 has a glitch that allowed me to kill Cohen early and still get him to show up later on (That's one sick mofo to let live.). Maybe it has to do with me revisiting the second site to clean it out only after I completed a bunch of other goals. Could have reset it somehow...

Damn you got him to reappear?

cheddar

09-05-2007, 07:10 PM

Damn you got him to reappear?

Yep, even went back to the site of the first kill and took a picture. Unlocked the irony gamerpoints (up to 48 out of 50, hit the jackpot on the first pull of the slots in that little hallway going back to look for Cohen). So that was him, the first and the second time...lol.

BaggedLancer

09-05-2007, 07:59 PM

46/50 achievements.

1. Collect all Diaries
2. Invent 100 items
3. Max all research
4. Beat game on hard

I should be able to do the first three in the current game im on, I'm currently just running around picking up as many materials as possible and going to use the invent tonics to go crazy inventing. Finding the diaries is a PITA and I'll just end up using a guide to get them.

cheddar

09-05-2007, 10:06 PM

I just have the PITA ones left. Diaries and tonics. You can only purchase/invent a handful of the 53. And I think there are over 100 of those diaries.

I think I'm done for now, until I get enough time to start over harvesting instead of saving. I'll probably use a guide too and make sure I get them all next time. I ended up with way too many extra parts by the end of the game. I just maxed out a bunch of items at a uvent and watched all the excess ammo pour out onto the floor to get the invent one.

BaggedLancer

09-05-2007, 11:26 PM

I just maxed out a bunch of items at a uvent and watched all the excess ammo pour out onto the floor to get the invent one.

That's exactly what I'm gonna do. I am shelving the game for a bit. Schools a startin up again. :mad: :(

cheddar

09-06-2007, 12:43 AM

Me too. I was only missing one tonic so that one is off my list to complete. Now it's just the dang diary one I'm missing. I looked them up online and there are 122 of them. Frustrating that I could have missed one practically anywhere along the way. Should have been making a list. But I never thought I'd be this close to completing the gamer points after only one play through. Oh well. Best to take a break...;)

cheddar

09-06-2007, 02:27 AM

Of course, right after I made the last post, I remembered there is a list of diaries you collect in the status screen. I was missing five. But now that I've completed 50 out of 50 achievements, going back in to do the alternate ending should be a lot more laid back without having to look in every corner. :D.