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Ricardo
08-18-2007, 09:00 PM
VINYL RULES



More later...need to go clean some records :D :D :D
rskarvan
08-18-2007, 09:08 PM
Glad you are enjoying your vinyl. How's the hiss?
hearingimpared
08-18-2007, 09:17 PM
VINYL RULES



More later...need to go clean some records :D :D :D

ROTFLMAO!!! You are my new idol!
pearsall001
08-18-2007, 09:20 PM
VINYL RULES



More later...need to go clean some records :D :D :D

Not to worry. I had a big bowl of Rice Krispies this morning...my snap, crackle & pop fix is in for the day!!! Gotta go,I'm getting my CD out of the freezer. What a tweak!!! :D
GV#27
08-18-2007, 09:43 PM
VINYL RULES




I agree,vinyl absolutely kills 8 track, cassette and Victrolas.;) :D :p
pearsall001
08-18-2007, 09:50 PM
I agree,vinyl absolutely kills 8 track, cassette and Victrolas.;) :D :p

My man!!! Gotta be carefull though...vinyl/8track are bringing up the rear & are running a dead heat to the finish line. Who's it gonna be, who's it gonna be???
Ricardo
08-18-2007, 10:25 PM
Ok; here's the story; I spent an hour this morning watching the video of Michael Fremer adjusting the Pro-ject RM5; lucky one of the tables on his video is the same as mine. Then I spent probably a couple of hours adjusting the cartridge. Not an easy task, but using two different tools I can say that it is perfectly adjusted....except for the azimuth (sp); I used the mirror technique, and even i ahd a magnifier glasss I COULD NOT SEE THE DAMN THING; for now I'll assume that it comes well adjusted from the factory, while I get a 4x magnifier.

Connected the table to the phono stage and pre.....and couldn't wait; even though Joe recommended to clean even brand new records, I wanted to hear how it sounded. I have a new sealed copy of Alison Krauss and U.S. "So long, so wrong" in 180 gr, and with just some brushing I started listening. I cannot believe how good the damn thing sounds; the rig sounds completely different; clearer, smoother, and the bass..........my speakers go down to 25 Hz in specs, lower in my room; this record made the bass sound tighter than ever. I heard a couple ofsides and decided to try a used copy I got from Eagles-Live. Started listening Hotel California, and obviously the record has not been cleaned. Noisy as hell. What a perfect opportunity to try the VPI machine. After cleaning it, the record was as quiet as a CD, and again, I was floored by the bass.

Just a couple of initial experiences from a total noob; there is something to the sound of vinyl that makes it such a pleasure to listen. Do I think it will replace CD's in my rig? Don't think so; CD's are so convenient, and to get good sound from vinyl you need to dedicate a lot more effort in cleaning & maintaining....not sure I'll have the "will" for this...we'll see.

That's all for now. Loving the experience.
danger boy
08-18-2007, 11:03 PM
good work.. and good review... CD's have their place no doubt.. but they can sound harsh after listening to some vinyl.
engtaz
08-18-2007, 11:05 PM
Do the CD's now seem a bit harsher in sound compared to vinyl?
Congrats
engtaz
08-18-2007, 11:06 PM
I am slower at typing. Too funny
hearingimpared
08-18-2007, 11:13 PM
Great Stuff Ric!!!

It is a revelation when done properly. Even Jesse was bowled over when he first heard my vinyl front end. . . I must admit though it didn't take long for him to adjust back to the Tri Vista CD/SACD rig LOL!

Now clean those friggin records before you ruin them and the stylus!!!

I'm looking forward to your further impressions.
reeltrouble1
08-19-2007, 01:21 AM
good work.. and good review... CD's have their place no doubt.. but they can sound harsh after listening to some vinyl.

In many cases I find the CD is better than the vinyl, especially SACD. I no longer try to say this is better or that is better, I just enjoy both formats. Too bad John Q never got SACD/DVD-A, too bad the greed of the studio's prevented it from just being the standard, too bad the artist's wanted extra money, too bad too bad too bad, well, we still have vinyl, which aint too bad.

Edit: I just saw a friggen message from the "go green" folks saying if you download your music off the net you can save the fuel it would of taken to deliver the CD..........I am a bad boy as I am sure the records I buy are ruining the planet, nothing to do with folks making millions, yada yada yada.....friggen alligators.

RT1
SCompRacer
08-19-2007, 01:51 AM
In many cases I find the CD is better than the vinyl, especially SACD.


I agree with you. If anyone thinks all vinyl is perfectly recorded, you need some learning. One place to start is at the Steve Hoffman forums.
hearingimpared
08-19-2007, 03:16 AM
I agree with you. If anyone thinks all vinyl is perfectly recorded, you need some learning. One place to start is at the Steve Hoffman forums.

Yep, believe it or not I am finding this to be true also!:eek:
engtaz
08-19-2007, 09:16 AM
I agree. I have some bad recorded albums.
George Grand
08-19-2007, 09:21 AM
I try not to sell poorly recorded vinyl.
cfrizz
08-19-2007, 01:39 PM
Link please, thank you.:D

I agree with you. If anyone thinks all vinyl is perfectly recorded, you need some learning. One place to start is at the Steve Hoffman forums.
SCompRacer
08-19-2007, 03:00 PM
Link please, thank you.:D

Here you go Cathy.

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/index.php

You'll find more than just info on vinyl. CD, SACD, R2R, gear, vinyl cleaning, mastering, recording, how poor recordings happen, etc. Check out Steve's bio in the interview archive and his discography too.
hearingimpared
08-19-2007, 04:34 PM
Here you go Cathy.

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/index.php

You'll find more than just info on vinyl. CD, SACD, R2R, gear, vinyl cleaning, mastering, recording, how poor recordings happen, etc. Check out Steve's bio in the interview archive and his discography too.

I just read what his playback system consists of, I'm out of breath especially when I see this:

Continuum Audio Labs Criterion turntable + Copperhead tonearm

If I had the change I would own this and the SME 30/2 tables.
cfrizz
08-19-2007, 05:50 PM
Thanks, SCR!
SCompRacer
08-19-2007, 07:12 PM
Continuum Audio Labs Criterion turntable + Copperhead tonearm



Lust! That is a fairly recent addition, IIRC.

He has the same digital source as I do in his main system. Not a Cary or Wadia, but a most amusing Modwright Sony 9100ES Platinum Signature Truth CD/SACD player.

Your most welcome Cathy!
hearingimpared
08-19-2007, 08:12 PM
He has the same digital source as I do in his main system. Not a Cary or Wadia, but a most amusing Modwright Sony 9100ES Platinum Signature Truth CD/SACD player.

I remember you telling me that. Now I wonder how a tube CDP is going to sound with my new VTL TL 5.5 as well as the refurb'd Spectral hmmmmm.