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hearingimpared
09-14-2007, 06:45 PM
Furutech has come out with a less expensive LP flattener. The Furutech DFV-1 runs $1480 at Acoustic Sounds.

Here is the link. (http://store.acousticsounds.com/browse_detail.cfm?Title_ID=41598&keywords=NL090507)

If we could come up with a way for it to become a club owned piece of gear we could chip in and pass it around.

Anyone have any ideas?

BTW all wisecracks by anti-vinyl insurgents will be promptly laughed at!:D :p

pearsall001
09-14-2007, 07:35 PM
Flatten 'em!! Let's see now...just keep eating those Philly Cheesesteaks & plop your ass on it. That'll do the trick!!! Or better yet at the next 'fest we can have a sit-in & take turns plopping our buts on 'em. Funny I don't have that problem with my CD's!!! :D

hearingimpared
09-14-2007, 07:41 PM
Funny I don't have that problem with my CD's!!! :D

No, they just sound like crap all the time!:D :p :rolleyes:

pearsall001
09-14-2007, 07:45 PM
No, they just sound like crap all the time!:D :p :rolleyes:

Now, now Joe...stop telling lies!! The big guy upstairs is listening.

madmax
09-14-2007, 10:03 PM
If we could come up with a way for it to become a club owned piece of gear we could chip in and pass it around.

Anyone have any ideas?



I'm in on a multi-ownership program. There are a few of us heavy duty vinyl lovers. I say we split it several ways and ship it around. I'm thinking maybe splitting it 15 ways, $100 each, we each get it 3 weeks a year and ship to the next guy/gal? Something like that...

madmax

Ricardo
09-14-2007, 10:08 PM
I'm in

hearingimpared
09-14-2007, 10:19 PM
Come on boys and girl (Darla) let's do some brainstorming.

pearsall001
09-14-2007, 10:46 PM
How's about a cinder block for your flattening concerns. I've got one in the back yard that I'll donate to you. Good & heavy, should flatten them like a pancake & make 'em sound real purdy!!

hearingimpared
09-14-2007, 10:50 PM
What's the lyric in "Lost for Words" by Pink Floyd . . .


. . . oh yeah, "ask you to kindly go F@#K yourself":p

madmax
09-14-2007, 10:51 PM
I wish we had one of those demagnetizers too.
madmax

pearsall001
09-14-2007, 10:52 PM
What's the lyric in "Lost for Words" by Pink Floyd . . .


. . . oh yeah, "ask you to kindly go F@#K yourself":p

Yes um boss!! LOL!

hearingimpared
09-14-2007, 10:55 PM
I wish we had one of those demagnetizers too.
madmax

Yep me too but I don't want to get toooooo out of hand we'll scare the new vinyl guys & gal off.

Ricardo
09-14-2007, 11:04 PM
I am serious; all we need here is for somebody to organize this. I will volunteer. PM me directly if you are willing to participate. I will keep all interested parties informed on progress, and we can all decide when we are ready to pull the trigger based on number of entries. I think that 15 is a good number, but it could be more (not too many). If we get there, then we need to determine who will collect the funds and order it. Let's not get into this until we get there. Thoughts?

madmax
09-14-2007, 11:09 PM
So if we could find 15 people good for $100 each we could get it. Down the line, a new person could buy into it as well and their portion of the payment could be spread amonst the present owners at that time. That way, the more people who buy into it, the less it costs everyone (and of course the less time we will have it in hand in the future).
madmax

pearsall001
09-14-2007, 11:13 PM
Just hang a hunk of garlic over the TT & make sure all your cables are "Silver". That'll keep 'em away.

hearingimpared
09-14-2007, 11:15 PM
I can email all the Polk vinyl guys that I know of and direct them to this thread then see how it goes.

Ricardo
09-14-2007, 11:15 PM
Never mind

hearingimpared
09-14-2007, 11:16 PM
Just hang a hunk of garlic over the TT & make sure all your cables are "Silver". That'll keep 'em away.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

Okay that one got me peeing myself!!!

madmax
09-14-2007, 11:25 PM
Never mind

:confused: :confused: :confused:

hearingimpared
09-14-2007, 11:32 PM
:confused: :confused: :confused:

Took back a punch in the belly!!! Hey Ric, I'm diming you out to yourself in the be nice karma!!! LOL!

hearingimpared
09-14-2007, 11:34 PM
I sent 14 emails out with the link to this thread. Now we just have to wait. There are some guys who bought my clamp that might be interested but I don't have their email address. I guess PMs would be in order.

hearingimpared
09-14-2007, 11:42 PM
hey pearsall, there are better things you could be doing now.

Here, here.....

http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/auc.pl?spkrmoni&1190601450



Ha ha ha . . . NAILED. . . NO SOUP for you!!! Come back ONE YEAR!!!

reeltrouble1
09-14-2007, 11:51 PM
ok. HI and I have talked about this before, but I think it may have been to early we have more heads now.

RT1

Ricardo
09-14-2007, 11:55 PM
Ha ha ha . . . NAILED. . . NO SOUP for you!!! Come back ONE YEAR!!!

HA HA; you did nail me; I thought I read "AAD"...so was going to tease pearsall.... ;)

hearingimpared
09-15-2007, 12:00 AM
ok. HI and I have talked about this before, but I think it may have been to early we have more heads now.

RT1

Is that a commitment?

madmax
09-15-2007, 12:15 AM
Ken S is a big vinyl fan. JM1 is too I think.

madmax

hearingimpared
09-15-2007, 12:16 AM
Ken S is a big vinyl fan. JM1 is too I think.

madmax

Already contacted them.

schwarcw
09-15-2007, 12:33 AM
I'm in. I'm not a vinyl junkie, but this could be fun.

What are we buying again?:cool:

hearingimpared
09-15-2007, 12:42 AM
I'm in. I'm not a vinyl junkie, but this could be fun.

What are we buying again?:cool:

This! (http://store.acousticsounds.com/browse_detail.cfm?Title_ID=41598&keywords=NL090507)

Fireman32
09-15-2007, 01:14 AM
Cant give a definite right now but most likely in.

SCompRacer
09-15-2007, 02:11 AM
I am not a die hard vinyl fan like some of you as I am extremely happy with my most amusing ModWright Sony 9100ES CD/SACD playback. However, I do have some warped records that need flattening so count me in (as long as we are in the ~$100-200 range).

ESavinon
09-15-2007, 03:12 AM
Maybe i'll buy that pancake flatener and charge $5.00 for each record that needs to be flatened ;) :D.
Just on this forum alone i can make a killing :cool: :D :p .

reeltrouble1
09-15-2007, 09:25 PM
Is that a commitment?

did you take your pill today!!! what do you think ok means???? you must be suffrin the jones from no vinyl.

Oh Atlanta I Hear you Callin.......digging Alison at the moment.....

I am RT1

madmax
09-15-2007, 09:45 PM
did you take your pill today!!! what do you think ok means???? you must be suffrin the jones from no vinyl.

Oh Atlanta I Hear you Callin.......digging Alison at the moment.....

I am RT1


He's got Digital Ear disease these days. Makes it hard for him to hear details.
madmax

hearingimpared
09-16-2007, 12:36 AM
Vinyl jones has been quench this evening with a brand new ZYX R100 FS Fuji mounted on an SME V recently rewired with Cardas wire. I'm also getting to hear the phono stage of the VTL TL 5.5 for the first time.

Ahhhhhhh the inner detail and bass depth.

schwarcw
09-16-2007, 12:44 AM
.......digging Alison at the moment.....

I am RT1

Some of this?

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p97/schwarcw/AlisonKrauss.jpg

hearingimpared
09-16-2007, 12:52 AM
Ya big tease!

Wow that is a nice score!

engtaz
09-16-2007, 09:21 AM
nice very nice where did you pick it up at?

reeltrouble1
09-16-2007, 08:33 PM
actually Carl, I was doing the SACD. But I heard the vinyl and agree it is awesome.

The vinyl was at Musicdirect anyway, Alison is awesome and the guys in the band can really play, that big double bass can crawl up your crotch especially on the track Forget about It.

RT1

schwarcw
09-16-2007, 08:42 PM
. . . . . that big double bass can crawl up your crotch especially on the track Forget about It.

RT1

Yeah, I noticed that too. The concrete floor rumbles underneth my feet when they kick into the instrumental break. Good stuff. I have the SACD and I understand that it is out of print.

reeltrouble1
09-16-2007, 09:00 PM
yea, Rounder is Kaput, someone should pick up the rights, but the vinyl is top notch, I do not have it yet, just heard it at a buds house.

I think we should rotate this machine as Chuck suggested, of course since he suggested it he should get it first;) , and since I seconded it, well you get the picture;) ............since Joe has a gazillion albums we should just torture him and make him wait and post up how good it works and improves our soundstage and all that other stuff, ok Joe, I mean you do know now when I say ok what I mean, hehehehehe:D .

If some of the guys who are in come to the fest we can collect the funds here and get it ordered anybody else who wants in can send the dough down to the fest, we will do the ritual blood/in blood out signing. But we need to get it going and make sure this thing works as promised so the fest would be great, if it is just a booger and not worth it more than one of us can attest and ship it back within the 30 days.

Or if we are in a hurry I can just get it for the fest and we can try it out down here and you guys can pay me.

Just some suggestions to keep and get the ball rolling.

RT1

madmax
09-16-2007, 10:19 PM
It doesn't matter to me how we do it. Just tell me where to send money. As for rotation, I'll let others have it first. It will be a few months until I have time to play with it anyway.
madmax

cmy330go
09-17-2007, 01:45 AM
Flatten 'em!! Let's see now...just keep eating those Philly Cheesesteaks & plop your ass on it. That'll do the trick!!! Or better yet at the next 'fest we can have a sit-in & take turns plopping our buts on 'em. Funny I don't have that problem with my CD's!!! :D

Mmmmmm. Cheesesteak. Mmmmmmmm

I'm in for the Cheesesteak....Pat's or Geno's?:D

I might be in for the flattener too. Let me do some thinkin' on it.

jm1
09-17-2007, 12:07 PM
Hey Guys,

Thanks for thinking of me and my best interests. The platter I now have for the TT accepts the periphery ring clamp. Using this will allow me to flatten all but the most stubborn LP and will provide additional rotational mass where it’s needed most. I need to try this before I commit to any other means of flattening LPs. Also, with about 2500 (and expanding) LPs, I would need this full time in order to address all those problematic discs.


JM

Kenneth Swauger
09-17-2007, 02:04 PM
Hello,
Count me "in", just let me know what you need me to do.
Ken

Ricardo
09-17-2007, 06:23 PM
.........

hearingimpared
09-17-2007, 07:01 PM
Thanks Ricardo!!!

pearsall001
09-17-2007, 07:45 PM
Hey Joe, count me in if I can use it to straighten out a frisbee. My Jake kinda mangled one. Will it work? LOL!!:D

Ricardo
09-17-2007, 08:06 PM
I like the number 12, what do you guys think? Total would be between 125-130 each, and each owner gets to play with it for a little less than a month, considering shipping time. Thoughts?

hearingimpared
09-17-2007, 08:34 PM
Twelve sounds good to me Ric. Perhaps we should take Ted up on his offer this will enable us to get a good look at it. Even if we start at 7 we can add the other 5 as we go.

hearingimpared
09-17-2007, 08:36 PM
Hey Joe, count me in if I can use it to straighten out a frisbee. My Jake kinda mangled one. Will it work? LOL!!:D

Are you sure Furutech didn't use your head as a testing site. . . it is awful flat or is it pointed now???:D :p :p :p

Ricardo
09-17-2007, 08:39 PM
I'm in for that, but I would like also to have a top limit. Not sure if 12, 15 or 20 at the most, but once we get there, no more "owners" would be allowed. I wouldn't like to be one of 30 owners, that including shipping time would leave us with a week or less using it.

engtaz
09-17-2007, 08:48 PM
Smart ass comment coming: I thought I would send my albums to Joe to straighten. LOL

hearingimpared
09-17-2007, 09:22 PM
I'm in for that, but I would like also to have a top limit. Not sure if 12, 15 or 20 at the most, but once we get there, no more "owners" would be allowed. I wouldn't like to be one of 30 owners, that including shipping time would leave us with a week or less using it.

I think 12 is a great number; one visit per month.

pearsall001
09-17-2007, 09:29 PM
Mmmmmm. Cheesesteak. Mmmmmmmm

I'm in for the Cheesesteak....Pat's or Geno's?:D

I might be in for the flattener too. Let me do some thinkin' on it.

Talk about a perfect A/B scenerio. I'd start at Pat's then mozie across the street to Geno's. Must be well controlled, fried onions & whiz. I gotta stop typing, I'm getting hungry!! :)

pearsall001
09-17-2007, 09:30 PM
Are you sure Furutech didn't use your head as a testing site. . . it is awful flat or is it pointed now???:D :p :p :p

How's about my frisbee!!

schwarcw
09-17-2007, 09:48 PM
Maybe we can get a Furutech rep to stop into the 'Fest. Have them demo it, or maybe we can get a discount if we post our results and give some reviews here on the Forum. Who wants to make a call?

I'm in for having it at the 'Fest. Let me know who needs my payment.:)

schwarcw
09-17-2007, 09:52 PM
yea, Rounder is Kaput,
RT1

REALLY! I thought that I just heard something new the other day that was a Rounder release???:confused:

Carl

cmy330go
09-17-2007, 10:40 PM
....

madmax
09-17-2007, 10:40 PM
I thought I would send my albums to Joe to straighten.

I hadn't thought of that. Joe could buy it and we just send him our LP's to flatten. That would be cheaper and easier for everyone.

12 sounds fine to me. I really think we should have the full list before buying it. Also, later anyone could sell their share for whatever amount they wanted, so long as the person they sold to was not a scumbag. :)
madmax

schwarcw
09-17-2007, 11:05 PM
I so long as the person they sold to was not a scumbag. :)
madmax

We're all scumbags!:eek:

Crusty old men clinging too their old moldy, dusty vinyl! It's an elderly sickness:p :D :cool:

Ricardo
09-17-2007, 11:09 PM
Crusty old men clinging too their old moldy, dusty vinyl! It's an elderly sickness:p :D :cool:

No idea what you're talking about Carl :confused: :confused:

lightman1
09-17-2007, 11:29 PM
Flatten 'em!! Let's see now...just keep eating those Philly Cheesesteaks & plop your ass on it. That'll do the trick!!! Or better yet at the next 'fest we can have a sit-in & take turns plopping our buts on 'em. Funny I don't have that problem with my CD's!!! :D

I'm 6'3" and 185 lbs. I tried that and discovered my arse ain't big enough!
Sign me up!

Ricardo
09-18-2007, 08:22 AM
........

Ricardo
09-18-2007, 06:09 PM
Moved to PM/email.

cmy330go
09-25-2007, 11:11 PM
I found a record today that we can use to test this thing.:D

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/1836/0925071550cg6.jpg

hearingimpared
09-26-2007, 02:25 AM
Wow, I shouldn't have thrown all those mold ruined LPs away, I could have made 500 ashtrays and sold them for a buck each!!!

Polk65
10-21-2007, 02:02 AM
Ricardo, are you still handling this and is there a slot open?

Ricardo
10-21-2007, 02:07 AM
Yes and yes; will PM you details (probably on Monday).

Polk65
10-21-2007, 05:44 AM
Thanks Ricardo.


Do yourself a favor and purchase Vinyl-Zyme Gold (http://www.smartdev.com/buggtussel.html). I have used this Bug Juice first on all my records even ones that were not damaged in a flood. This stuff is amazing. It eats the crap that grows in the grooves over time. If you had your collection in storage for ten years this product is a must.

One 2 oz. bottle makes four gallons of solution or one gallon of extra strength. This is more than you'll ever use unless of course you are like me and use it on every LP. When I am cleaning a record that has been in storage, I use this first then MFSL super deep cleaning fluid, then MFSL record wash, I finish with VPI record cleaning fluid. If I am just cleaning a record that has been sitting around a while, I use the Bug Juice then VPI record cleaning fluid. I am waiting on my order of LAST 2. This is a record preservative. I have used the original product called LAST and it worked very well.

Joe, a few questions for you. How has this LAST 2 product worked out (feel free to reply here or in the original thread).

Any suggestions for treating covers and paper lyric sleeves that hold records with visible mold spores?

reeltrouble1
10-21-2007, 11:39 AM
I will be shipping the flattener out to Ken this week, I just finished mashing a Bowie (heroes) with the machine it is now as flat as the pancake I just ate, which is not how I remember Angie Zaharopoulos's chest back in the 7th grade..........yum and ooohhh, old moldy record man--RT1

hearingimpared
10-21-2007, 09:53 PM
Thanks Ricardo.



Joe, a few questions for you. How has this LAST 2 product worked out (feel free to reply here or in the original thread).

Any suggestions for treating covers and paper lyric sleeves that hold records with visible mold spores?


Sorry Steve I just saw this, I was in Atlantic City, we went to the Sheryl Crow concert last night it was friggin awesome.

Mold spores problems can be taken care of and removed from the vinyl with Vinyl-Zyme Gold, you can get it here (http://www.ttvj.com/index.php?main_page=index) and here. (http://www.smartdev.com/buggtussel.html)

As far as covers and sleeves you are out of luck. Once the mold gets into paper or cardboard of anykind it becomes part of the material like cancer does in our bodies. The only way to get rid of it is to cut it out. I've had to ditch many, many record jackets and sleeves but was able to salvage the vinyl itself. I use MFSL inner sleeves for the record and use blank white cardboard jackets as the record jacket itself. I use a Sharpe to write the pertinent data on the blank jacket.

I believe Last 2 is the same as the old original LAST product which I used and still use. . . eff the EPA . . . kidding! It is absorbed by the vinyl and it makes it more pliable thus allowing the cartridge to move through the groove more smoothly and will not allow mistracking, antiskating errors or misalignment fault to distort the vinyl itself thus reducing or eliminating wear. I've a few hundred records that I treated with LAST 25 years ago and they are very well preserved. If you look on some record pictures that I've posted there is a LAST label on the main label.