HELP! Problem w/browsing Club Polk

[appadv]

Hi,

I'm getting this error message on my computer whenever I visit this forum. And then the forum window closes.

Anybody know what might be causing the problem?

[appadv]

I clicked "OK" and all I get is the following:

[McLoki]

I assume you have powered off and back on? If so - try another brower (like firefox or opera) and see if you get a similar error. If they work, reinstall I.E.

[exalted512]

download mozilla, try again.
-Cody

[appadv]

I assume you have powered off and back on? If so - try another brower (like firefox or opera) and see if you get a similar error. If they work, reinstall I.E.

Yes, I have powered off and back on to no avail. I'd also like to point out that this does not happen on any other website, only when browsing Club Polk.

Forum software problem maybe?

It forces me off every time and I have to restart.

[Disc Jockey]

nothing to see here

[appadv]

you need to be logged in, otherwise the forum s/w has no idea how many posts you have.

eh? Can you elaborate a bit?

[Disc Jockey]

bahh, wrong window, sorry. Was trying to answer somebody else

[appadv]

Oh yeah it doesn't depend on whether I'm logged in/out, posting, or just reading.

[Disc Jockey]

Try this:

Step 1
On the menu bar, click on 'Tools', then click on ‘Internet Options…’.

Step 2
In the window that pops up, go to the ‘Advanced Tab’. Scroll down to where it says ‘Browsing’.

Step 3
Uncheck the check box beside the phrase that says ‘Enable third-party browser extensions’.


Click on OK and restart Internet Explorer.

It also seems that this process is sometimes initiated by recent software or driver installs. Did you install anything recently? If so, you may want to try uninstalling it or going back to a recent restore point.

[appadv]

Try this:

Step 1
On the menu bar, click on 'Tools', then click on ‘Internet Options…’.

Step 2
In the window that pops up, go to the ‘Advanced Tab’. Scroll down to where it says ‘Browsing’.

Step 3
Uncheck the check box beside the phrase that says ‘Enable third-party browser extensions’.


Click on OK and restart Internet Explorer.

It also seems that this process is sometimes initiated by recent software or driver installs. Did you install anything recently? If so, you may want to try uninstalling it or going back to a recent restore point.

Did that, but same problem. Also no, I did not install or change anything in the past 3 months on this computer. No new hardware either.

[appadv]

As per going back to a recent restore point, I can't, because apparently System Restore was never enabled on this computer.

[Disc Jockey]

Hmm, well I don't have much else to offer you. Maybe someone else will. Good luck.

[Disc Jockey]

As per going back to a recent restore point, I can't, because apparently System Restore was never enabled on this computer.

Ouch:mad:

[Mike682]

check this out:


http://beyondteck.blogspot.com/2006/05/how-to-stop-sysfaderexe-error.html

[appadv]

check this out:


http://beyondteck.blogspot.com/2006/05/how-to-stop-sysfaderexe-error.html

I went to that website and looked at the instructions, and to my surprise, the animations were already DISABLED!

Now what?

[appadv]

Please don't tell me it's spyware :(

[Mike682]

scroll down to the bottom of that page, someone posted another method and claims to have worked

[appadv]

scroll down to the bottom of that page, someone posted another method and claims to have worked

I looked at that method, but it only applies to systems with IE7.

That's why I'm still using IE6. Waiting until all the bugs are fixed.

[appadv]

I'm starting to think it's spyware. Attached is the processes that are currently running on my system - I don't see anything suspicious but I'm not 100% sure these days.

What's weird is that I have a CPU Usage of 10% when the system is idle.

[Mike682]

I'm not sure what it is

Checked on Google: some say it is an Nvidia graphics file

http://www.processlibrary.com/directory/files/sysfader/

[appadv]

I'm not sure what it is

Checked on Google: some say it is an Nvidia graphics file

http://www.processlibrary.com/directory/files/sysfader/

I don't have a nVidia graphics card on my laptop, only an Intel GMA915 onboard graphics.

Wait - all of a sudden I have a LOAD of processes running on my system, that weren't running before!

WTH?

[RuSsMaN]

Have you started simple, and deleted all your temp internet files, cleared your cookies, and re-logged back in?

[appadv]

Have you started simple, and deleted all your temp internet files, cleared your cookies, and re-logged back in?

Yes.

[appadv]

Totally puzzled - why are there 14 more processes running on my system after going on Club Polk?

[jakelm]

Somethings up. This might sound odd, but there doesnt seem to be enough precesses running.

IE7 is working great, I suggest getting it.

Under the visual effect tab...check off..let windows choose what best.

But I have been using IE7 for months now without a glitch. Just keep it up to date.

[appadv]

Somethings up. This might sound odd, but there doesnt seem to be enough precesses running.

Huh? My system is functioning normally.

I think it could be spyware.

[jakelm]

Take another snap shot of processes..


I didnt think you had enough system or user processes running.

[jakelm]

Huh? My system is functioning normally.

I think it could be spyware.


No... I know that sounds wierd, but I don think so.

Get IE7

[appadv]

Take another snap shot of processes..


I didnt think you had enough system or user processes running.

Here ya go:

[jakelm]

I don't have a nVidia graphics card on my laptop, only an Intel GMA915 onboard graphics.

Wait - all of a sudden I have a LOAD of processes running on my system, that weren't running before!

WTH?

Now thats more like it.

Alot of those processes , that werent there, are needed...

[jakelm]

Is it working now?

[appadv]

Now thats more like it.

Alot of those processes , that werent there, are needed...

Hmm, my laptop's HDD light was flickering a bit so I knew something was up, and then looked in Task Manager and 14 new processes were running!

[appadv]

Is it working now?

No, still not working.

The error message comes up randomly, can be at intervals of every few minutes to more than 3 hours.

What is this Rtvscan process that's taking up the bulk of my memory?

[jakelm]

Hmm, my laptop's HDD light was flickering a bit so I knew something was up, and then looked in Task Manager and 14 new processes were running!



This is what I do with every customer, friend and family member.

Download IE7, and update it to the fullest.

Download the new yahoo toolbar, it come with a nortan antispyware, runs great.

Download AVG free addition.

I have this on every computer I own and friends and relative's also. Not one virus spyware problem for the past year.

[jakelm]

No, still not working.

The error message comes up randomly, can be at intervals of every few minutes to more than 3 hours.

What is this Rtvscan process that's taking up the bulk of my memory?

Highlight it, click on it and click end task

[Mike682]

What is this Rtvscan process that's taking up the bulk of my memory?

I believe that is Norton Antivirus

[appadv]

Highlight it, click on it and click end task

I can't terminate it.

[Mike682]

because Norton Antivirus is running in the background...

the rtvscan file is legit..It is just Norton being a memory hog :D

[jakelm]

I can't terminate it.


SHUT IT DOWN...SHUT IT DOWN..IT WILL BLOW UP!!!!!!




Just kidding, its a system program. Cant shut down system programs. Looks like norton


Google is your friend. Type the running program into google and click search. alot of programs do have deffenitions and will explain themselves.

[appadv]

because Norton Antivirus is running in the background...

the file is legit

I have Symantec AntiVirus Enterprise Edition.

[Mike682]

Symantec is Norton

[jakelm]

Do youself a favor and get rid of Norton and McAfee if you have it. Memory hogs is right...

Slow computers, thats the first thing I look for, antivirus softwares running.

Avg is the best I have seen..

[appadv]

Slow computers, thats the first thing I look for, antivirus softwares running.

It takes me exactly 38 seconds from power-on to desktop, that's slow?

Still having my original problem though.

[Mike682]

+1 on getting rid of Norton and McAfee

Another great Antivirus pgm is Bitdefender. I've been running Bitdefender with no problems

[jakelm]

Still having my original problem though.

Did you get IE7? Noo..not that fast you didnt...lol

[appadv]

Sure, I can get rid of it, but what does this have to do with the original problem?

The Symantec Enterprise version is much less resource hogging than the Norton version, which I used to have.

[jakelm]

It takes me exactly 38 seconds from power-on to desktop, that's slow?




Yeah..seems to me like it shouldnt take more than 37 seconds to boot up..lol

Seriously..no thats not slow.

[jakelm]

Sure, I can get rid of it, but what does this have to do with the original problem?

The Symantec Enterprise version is much less resource hogging than the Norton version, which I used to have.

I beleive its an IE error.

Still a hog, even though its less than Norton.

Memory problems can acount for alot of errors. If there is a program taking up too much memory then errors will occur.

[appadv]

So, do you recommend changing an antivirus program FIRST or installing IE7?

I'm reluctant to install new things if the current problem may, unfortunately, still exist.

[appadv]

BTW, said this in my first post -

Only happens when browsing Club Polk :)

[appadv]

Alright, going with IE7, wish me good luck!

[jakelm]

Ok. Try this

Start/Run then type

sfc.exe /scannow

Let the scan run

[jakelm]

BTW, said this in my first post -

Only happens when browsing Club Polk :)

Delete cookies/temp enternet files ..etc. Tryed that?

[appadv]

Delete cookies/temp enternet files ..etc. Tryed that?

Yes, I did that.

Hoping that IE7 installs and fixes the problem.

[appadv]

Ok. Try this

Start/Run then type

sfc.exe /scannow

Let the scan run

Oh wait - you want me to do this first?

[jakelm]

Ok. Try this

Start/Run then type

sfc.exe /scannow

Let the scan run


If you dont want IE7, which I think is a good browser. Then try this..that I recommended.

[appadv]

OK, I cancelled the download and will do what you told me to.

[appadv]

An error message comes up that says,

"Files that are required for Windows to run properly must be copied to the DLL cache. Insert your Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 CD now."

I don't have such a CD, just HP System Recovery partition on the hard drive.

[appadv]

Argh! Entire system just locked up on me, and I had to take out the battery!

Just restarted and at least I can get back into Windows.

[jakelm]

An error message comes up that says,

"Files that are required for Windows to run properly must be copied to the DLL cache. Insert your Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 CD now."

I don't have such a CD, just HP System Recovery partition on the hard drive.

Hmmm...Thought so....Get IE7

you can always unistall IE7 and go back to IE6 if it doesnt work

You really need ot run a virus can too.

Some sysfader.exe are infected...SOME..

[appadv]

Hmmm...Thought so....Get IE7

you can always unistall IE7 and go back to IE6 if it doesnt work

No, this didn't happen when installing IE7, it happened when I did the sfc.exe /scannow command and somehow the entire computer locked up.

[jakelm]

No, this didn't happen when installing IE7, it happened when I did the sfc.exe /scannow command and somehow the entire computer locked up.

Downlaod IE7

Are you still using windows 98?

Looks like it from your desktop.

[appadv]

Downlaod IE7

Are you still using windows 98?

Looks like it from your desktop.

I'm using Windows XP. Windows 98 does not say "Files that are required for Windows to run properly must be copied to the DLL cache. Insert your Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 CD now." :)

[jakelm]

I'm using Windows XP. Windows 98 does not say "Files that are required for Windows to run properly must be copied to the DLL cache. Insert your Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 CD now." :)


DUHHH....My bad

[appadv]

Doing a virus scan right now. When that finishes, will start downloading IE7.

[jakelm]

Doing a virus scan right now. When that finishes, will start downloading IE7.


Good luck..hope it works...

[appadv]

Finished the virus scan. Results attached. No spyware scanner though.

Going to download IE7 overnight.

[appadv]

Looks like it's not a virus, or maybe it's one of them that avoids detection.

[jakelm]

Looks like it's not a virus, or maybe it's one of them that avoids detection.

As long as your antivirus was updated. It looks clear.

[appadv]

As long as your antivirus was updated. It looks clear.

Cool, that's good to know.

Will find out if the problem is fixed when IE7 finishes downloading. It is a HUGE download.

[jakelm]

Did it work?

[appadv]

So - I wake up, go to class, come back to my computer and find it stuck on the portion that says "backing up files." It was still installing IE7. So I wait 30 minutes and find the system completely frozen.

Now what?

[appadv]

Did it work?

Tried uninstalling whatever part of IE7 that did install, and under Add/Remove Programs Internet Explorer 7 is not listed:

So no, it did not install.

[jakelm]

So - I wake up, go to class, come back to my computer and find it stuck on the portion that says "backing up files." It was still installing IE7. So I wait 30 minutes and find the system completely frozen.

Now what?


Sounds like a hardware problem. A video card or PS problem. Or a CPU heat problem. You PC miight need a good cleaning. When the air flow in the case or at the CPU is bad, things get too warm and start causing freezes.


Turn your computer off. Pop the case open clean and swop the RAM cards, check see if the CPU heat sink is clean. Restart computer.

[appadv]

Sounds like a hardware problem. A video card or PS problem. Or a CPU heat problem. You PC miight need a good cleaning. When the air flow in the case or at the CPU is bad, things get too warm and start causing freezes.


Turn your computer off. Pop the case open clean and swop the RAM cards, just change one for the other. Restart computer.

It's a laptop.

Will post CPU temperature, fan speed, etc.

[jakelm]

Tried uninstalling whatever part of IE7 that did install, and under Add/Remove Programs Internet Explorer 7 is not listed:

So no, it did not install.

At the top of add and remove programs..click Show Updates

[jakelm]

It's a laptop.

Will post CPU temperature, fan speed, etc.

A laptop....

Down load AVG and run it, to see if its a virus. If its not a virus I still think its a hardware issue so you will need to open the laptop to access the hardware.
Laptops are not as easy to trouble shoot hardware.

[appadv]

From the BIOS:

CPU Temperature 33.5C / 92.3F
Fan Speed: 3389 RPM

[jakelm]

Something is running or a peice of hardware is messed up, to cause a feeze up.

Lets start with software then to hardware.

[jakelm]

From the BIOS:

CPU Temperature 33.5C / 92.3F
Fan Speed: 3389 RPM

Thats fine. Alittle warm but ok

[appadv]

Something is running or a peice of hardware is messed up, to cause a feeze up.

Lets start with software then to hardware.

Software - You think it's not spyware, why's that?

Hardware - No hardware errors in event viewer:

[jakelm]

Another great program is windows defender. With defender you can see excatly what is running at start up and current.

AVG and windows defender should do a better job than Norton. Lets make sure its not a software issue.

Download AVG free ware and Windows Defender.

Run both programs one after the other.

If computer freezes during scan, reboot in safemode. And run the scan in safemode

[jakelm]

Would you say the freezes ocured at about the same time as the Dhcp warning?

[jakelm]

Dhcp warning is a network card problem.... Or a general internet connection problem.

[appadv]

Would you say the freezes ocured at about the same time as the Dhcp warning?

Maybe, but what bothers me is the amount of bloatware installed in this system from HP:

[jakelm]

The only bad thing in there is the symanctec software, That NEEDS to go. First disable it in processes then uninstall it.

[jakelm]

When was the last time you did an update for IE>????

[appadv]

The only bad thing in there is the symanctec software, That NEEDS to go. First disable it in processes then uninstall it.

You mean turn off the antivirus first then uninstall it?

I was thinking all that HP bloatware might be causing the problem...

[appadv]

When was the last time you did an update for IE>????

Sometime in September, IIRC.

[jakelm]

You mean turn off the antivirus first then uninstall it?

I was thinking all that HP bloatware might be causing the problem...

Yes turn it off first or it will never uninstall.


There is no bloatware on you machine. Other than symantec.

I have twice the software you do.. And my system is running great. Its not whats installed, its whats running..thats your plroblem. Symantec runs all the time.

[appadv]

There is no bloatware on you machine. Other than symantec.

So all the HP junk isn't a problem?

It's very tempting to just uninstall the HP widgets.

[PolkThug]

This is all I've used on my desktop for a long time with no problems. Free Tenebril Spy Catcher Express (http://www.tenebril.com/consumer/spyware/spycatcher-express.php)

[jakelm]

So all the HP junk isn't a problem?

It's very tempting to just uninstall the HP widgets.

Im not seeing whatyour seeing, according to the add/remove screen, there is no memory hogs other than Symantec.

[jakelm]

Are you downloading AVG and windows defender? Are you uninstalling Symantec?

[PolkThug]

Switch off transitions in IE,
goto IE Tools, Internet Options, Advanced Tab, uncheck 'Enable Page Transitions' under the 'Browsing' section.

[jakelm]

Switch off transitions in IE,
goto IE Tools, Internet Options, Advanced Tab, uncheck 'Enable Page Transitions' under the 'Browsing' section.


I was thinking the exact same thing, but updating to IE7 should fix this

[steveinaz]

Do you have spybot search & destroy and Ad Aware? If so, run them.

Another option, keep an eye on processes that "ignite" when this happens. They'll blink like christmas trees. Then look at the file name of the process, and see if it's legit.

[appadv]

Are you downloading AVG and windows defender? Are you uninstalling Symantec?

When uninstalling Symantec, after first disabling auto-protect, during the uninstall process the computer freezes. Interesting that this computer never had this problem before attempting to install IE7.

When trying to install Windows Defender, an error message pops up that says the following:

"Unable to proceed with installation

The Background Intelligent Transfer Service is disabled."

I also can't install AVG without first removing Symantec.

[appadv]

Oh well, now I've got to use this school computer...

Laptop was fine until I tried to install IE7.

[jakelm]

Theres alot more wrong with that laptop, obviously.

Just unistall the IE7 , if you installed it. And put everything back to how it was before. What you need it a XP reinstall disk.

If its not letting you install or uninstal anything, then there are major problems..

[appadv]

Theres alot more wrong with that laptop, obviously.

Just unistall the IE7 , if you installed it. And put everything back to how it was before. What you need it a XP reinstall disk.

If its not letting you install or uninstal anything, then there are major problems..

I put everything back to how it was before, and now everything is fine. Except for the occasional SysFader.exe that appears when browsing Club Polk.

The problem with not being able to install/uninstall anything only happened after attempting to install IE7, before that everything was fine. (except for the SysFader.exe popups)

[jakelm]

I put everything back to how it was before, and now everything is fine. Except for the occasional SysFader.exe that appears when browsing Club Polk.

The problem with not being able to install/uninstall anything only happened after attempting to install IE7, before that everything was fine. (except for the SysFader.exe popups)


Sysfader, should not pop up at all. I would find a reinstal disk and run a repair. Bu if you happy with the way it is,,,,ok


There should be no problem installing IE7, AVG and windows defender, if there is , then there is a problem..


Im sorry I couldnt help

[PolkThug]

Switch off transitions in IE,
goto IE Tools, Internet Options, Advanced Tab, uncheck 'Enable Page Transitions' under the 'Browsing' section.


Did you try this yet?

[appadv]

Did you try this yet?

Yes, it worked fine for a while but then the problem came back:

[appadv]

It's starting to do this a lot again...

At one point it worked fine for a whole 3 hours, now it's all the time:

[appadv]

Sysfader, should not pop up at all. I would find a reinstal disk and run a repair. Bu if you happy with the way it is,,,,ok


There should be no problem installing IE7, AVG and windows defender, if there is , then there is a problem..


Im sorry I couldnt help

Do you have an idea what (possibly) could the problem be?

[jakelm]

Do you have an idea what (possibly) could the problem be?

Sysfader is a graphics issue. I would try reinstalling the graphics driver and see, but, if that wouldnt work, go into safemode and download IE7. Or reinstall IE6 in safemode, it might replace any corrupted files.

[appadv]

Sysfader is a graphics issue. I would try reinstalling the graphics driver and see, but, if that wouldnt work, go into safemode and download IE7. Or reinstall IE6 in safemode, it might replace any corrupted files.

When installing IE7 I also got the message:

"Unable to proceed with installation

The Background Intelligent Transfer Service is disabled."

If it is a graphics issue, could it be caused by using this laptop as a desktop?

[PolkThug]

IE sux. Go FireFox.

[appadv]

IE sux. Go FireFox.

Will that solve the problem?

I still think there is some kind of malware on this PC, do any of you guys know if any programs in my computer look suspicious?

[jakelm]

Nope, nothing looks out of place.

Try windows defender. In safe mode.

[appadv]

Nope, nothing looks out of place.

Try windows defender. In safe mode.

When I tried, I couldn't get my internet connection working. Even in "Safe Mode with Networking."

I think it's because some HP network card drivers don't get loaded in "Safe Mode," along with the "HP Wireless Assistant" and other HP drivers.

[PolkThug]

I still think there is some kind of malware on this PC,


This is all I've used on my desktop for a long time with no problems. Free Tenebril Spy Catcher Express (http://www.tenebril.com/consumer/spyware/spycatcher-express.php)

.............

[appadv]

.............

I got ya, just having problems trying to uninstall Symantec before I can install a different anti-virus/anti-spyware program.

[jakelm]

I got ya, just having problems trying to uninstall Symantec before I can install a different anti-virus/anti-spyware program.


Then dont uninstall, just disable.

[appadv]

Then dont uninstall, just disable.

So I hear Ad-Aware, Spybot Search and Destroy, and Tenebril Spy Catcher Express are all good anti-spyware programs.

I will try to install all three.

[jakelm]

So I hear Ad-Aware, Spybot Search and Destroy, and Tenebril Spy Catcher Express are all good anti-spyware programs.

I will try to install all three.


You dont need to. Just install AVG or Windows defender. Alot of those "adware" programs end up installing alot of other just too, expl: tool bars, home pages, buy this buy that..

[appadv]

You dont need to. Just install AVG or Windows defender. Alot of those "adware" programs end up installing alot of other just too, expl: tool bars, home pages, buy this buy that..

AVG or Windows Defender didn't install, so I was thinking of either Ad-Aware, Spybot, or Tenebril.

[jakelm]

AVG or Windows Defender didn't install, so I was thinking of either Ad-Aware, Spybot, or Tenebril.

How can they not install? If you disable Symantec , then you can install, if thats whats trying to stop the instalation. If one thing can install, then anything could install..

But ok...good luck

[appadv]

How can they not install? If one thing can install, then anything could install..

But ok...good luck

Windows Defender locked the system up and said something about "Background Intelligent Transfer Service"

As for AVG, it won't install with Symantec still on my machine.

[appadv]

So - I disabled Symantec and got Lavasoft Ad-Aware to install.

Attached are the scan results:

[appadv]

Since Lavasoft Ad-Aware didn't find any spyware, does this pretty much rule out spyware?

[McLoki]

if it scaned in 8 seconds, you did not do a full scan of the hard drive. Try it again. When you click start, make sure you select the radio button for "perform a full system scan" (this is not the default)

Michael

[appadv]

if it scaned in 8 seconds, you did not do a full scan of the hard drive. Try it again. When you click start, make sure you select the radio button for "perform a full system scan" (this is not the default)

Michael

Thanks, I'm doing the "full system scan" right now.

[appadv]

OK, here's what it found:

And I had to turn Symantec off as jakelm said.

[McLoki]

still not to bad. maybe run spybot and see if it finds anything, but I am doubting that it is your issue.

If you have not installed service pack 2 (assuming you are running WinXp) that may actually solve your issue. It will replace most of the .DLL's on your system and it sounds like one of them is messed up on yours....

Have you tried reinstalling i.e. (or updating to the next version if you are not at the latest one)?

[appadv]

still not to bad. maybe run spybot and see if it finds anything, but I am doubting that it is your issue.

If you have not installed service pack 2 (assuming you are running WinXp) that may actually solve your issue. It will replace most of the .DLL's on your system and it sounds like one of them is messed up on yours....

Have you tried reinstalling i.e. (or updating to the next version if you are not at the latest one)?

Yes, I have Service Pack 2.

As stated before, if I try reinstalling IE, or updating to IE7, I get the message:

"Unable to proceed with installation

The Background Intelligent Transfer Service is disabled."

[appadv]

I am doubting the cause is spyware now, it must be something else :(

[audiobliss]

Ok, this is the first I've looked at this thread...I'm far from a computer whiz, but...

I see you installed and ran AdAware. Good. Now install Spybot S&D and run it, after updating the database, of course, I use AVG (free edition), AdAware, and Spybot and have never had a problem. And on my new computer I just scan the HD with all three at the same time within 20 minutes. :D

But I would get those three, do complete scans, and see what pops up.


I have no clue why you're having that problem in IE, that's frustrating and shouldn't be. This isn't a fix for you problem, rather a work around, but I'd install Mozilla Firefox. I much prefer it to IE, anyways.

[appadv]

Ok, this is the first I've looked at this thread...I'm far from a computer whiz, but...

I see you installed and ran AdAware. Good. Now install Spybot S&D and run it, after updating the database, of course, I use AVG (free edition), AdAware, and Spybot and have never had a problem. And on my new computer I just scan the HD with all three at the same time within 20 minutes. :D

But I would get those three, do complete scans, and see what pops up.


I have no clue why you're having that problem in IE, that's frustrating and shouldn't be. This isn't a fix for you problem, rather a work around, but I'd install Mozilla Firefox. I much prefer it to IE, anyways.

If you see on the last few pages, I could not install AVG no matter what I tried. But I'll install Spybot S&D right after I finish my calculus homework.

Did you look at the screenshots? Anything seem out of place to you?

[audiobliss]

Thats fine. Alittle warm but ok
How do you figure on that being warm? Especially not knowing what CPU he's running?

Just out of curiosity, what is your system? CPU, HD, RAM, etc.

My desktop has been running at 37 - 39*C for most of the day...I'm loving it because it's been running at 41 - 43*C.

[audiobliss]

I don't see anything that looks out of place, but I'm not familiar with that stuff to know unless it was labeled "WARNING: Malicious Spyware!" :p

[appadv]

I don't see anything that looks out of place, but I'm not familiar with that stuff to know unless it was labeled "WARNING: Malicious Spyware!" :p

I mean if you look in the picture of my start menu, there are a few programs I am talking about...

[bigaudiofanatic]

Hi,

I'm getting this error message on my computer whenever I visit this forum. And then the forum window closes.

Anybody know what might be causing the problem?

I'll tell u right now what is going on something tried to change a system file in internet explorer and it corupted the file. what you need to do is reinstall internet explorer You can do this by doing a "repair with your windows xp cd or by e-mailing microsoft and they will send you and installation packet that will repair them. Your choice.

[appadv]

How do you figure on that being warm? Especially not knowing what CPU he's running?

Just out of curiosity, what is your system? CPU, HD, RAM, etc.

My desktop has been running at 37 - 39*C for most of the day...I'm loving it because it's been running at 41 - 43*C.

The laptop that is having this problem is:

Intel Pentium M 760, 2.00GHz
Samsung (HP) 1024MB RAM
Fujitsu 100GB Hard Drive

Laptop is 3.5 years old.

The system runs warm because I sometimes have the laptop on my bed, but it's not as warm when on a desk.

[audiobliss]

Dang, that's a HECK of a lot better than my laptop. I might should have invested in a new laptop instead of in a new desktop...but this desktop is awesome!

My laptop has an Athlon 4 processor @ 900MHz and 256MB RAM. It's old. :D

And I know what you mean about it running warm on your bed.

[appadv]

Dang, that's a HECK of a lot better than my laptop. I might should have invested in a new laptop instead of in a new desktop...but this desktop is awesome!

My laptop has an Athlon 4 processor @ 900MHz and 256MB RAM. It's old. :D

And I know what you mean about it running warm on your bed.

At least yours works.

My desktop was a Pentium II 350MHz and 128MB RAM, I've had it for nearly a decade but it still works fine to this day.

Then came the laptop.

[audiobliss]

I just gave Mom my old desktop, so I'm going to get her old desktop to play with. I"ll probably do some folding with it.

I have NO idea what's in it. It's a desktop, was top of the line when she got it, and has a 17GB or so HD. If that tells you anything...

[appadv]

I just gave Mom my old desktop, so I'm going to get her old desktop to play with. I"ll probably do some folding with it.

I have NO idea what's in it. It's a desktop, was top of the line when she got it, and has a 17GB or so HD. If that tells you anything...

I used to get "top of the line" like when I ordered my laptop, but with today's falling prices I believe it's better to buy a mid-grade PC. Because that brand-new graphics card you just got for $500 is going to be worth half that in no time.

[audiobliss]

Yeah. Mom said we gave about $1700 for her desktop when we got it. I don't think laptops existed back then, lol.

Just for clarification, I don't have a $500 GPU. Don't know if you were using that just as a general example or not...

[appadv]

I'll tell u right now what is going on something tried to change a system file in internet explorer and it corupted the file. what you need to do is reinstall internet explorer You can do this by doing a "repair with your windows xp cd or by e-mailing microsoft and they will send you and installation packet that will repair them. Your choice.

I couldn't install Internet Explorer, but that was IE7 from the Microsoft site. So you're saying to do a repair with the Windows XP CD of IE6? I only have a HP system recovery CD though. Will that work?

[appadv]

Yeah. Mom said we gave about $1700 for her desktop when we got it. I don't think laptops existed back then, lol.

Just for clarification, I don't have a $500 GPU. Don't know if you were using that just as a general example or not...

No, I was just saying a $500 GPU depreciates FAST! :)

[audiobliss]

No, I'm pretty sure that won't work. Once you've run AdAware and Spybot, I'd see if I couldnt' uninstall and then reinstall IE6.

[appadv]

No, I'm pretty sure that won't work. Once you've run AdAware and Spybot, I'd see if I couldnt' uninstall and then reinstall IE6.

Aside from Ad-Aware, which I've been successful in installing, pretty much everything else did not install/uninstall properly. Couldn't install Windows Defender, AVG, nor uninstall Symantec.

[audiobliss]

That's bugging me. I don't know why that'd be. If going through Add/Remove programs doesn't work, I usually just resort to going into my Program Files, right-clicking on the folder and deleting it that way. Probably not good, but it gets rid of it.

Go ahead and do Spybot and see what it turns up.

Then I'd turn to looking into how to uninstall your Symantec. Does it have an uninstall utility itself? If you go to Start -> Programs -> Symantec (or w/e it is), is there an uninstall option there?

[audiobliss]

After running through Spybot, if you can, go ahead and uninstall your IE. You can download IE6 again from www.oldversion.com. Here's a link to their versions of IE. (http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=msie)

[appadv]

This is what I have in Add/Remove Programs:

[appadv]

And no, Symantec AntiVirus does not have its own uninstall utility:

The one in Control Panel froze the system.

[audiobliss]

Can you install the LiveUpdate 3.1 (symantec Corporation) and Symantec AntiVirus? You'll probably have to do it in a certain order, so if one way doesn't work, I'd try the other one.

I'm sure they're not causing any problems at all, but if you want to, I can't see any bad effects from uninstalling:
HP Help and Support
HP Software Update (might wanna keep that one though, so it'll keep your HP drivers and software up to date)
HP User Guides 0001

[audiobliss]

Also, how can you get nice, clean screenshots like that? You just using Prt Scr and pasting into Paint?

[appadv]

Can you install the LiveUpdate 3.1 (symantec Corporation) and Symantec AntiVirus? You'll probably have to do it in a certain order, so if one way doesn't work, I'd try the other one.

I'm sure they're not causing any problems at all, but if you want to, I can't see any bad effects from uninstalling:
HP Help and Support
HP Software Update (might wanna keep that one though, so it'll keep your HP drivers and software up to date)
HP User Guides 0001

Yes, that's the HP bloatware I was talking about.

Nope, LiveUpdate and Symantec AntiVirus both cannot be uninstalled.

[audiobliss]

Dangit. I know it's not the way to do it, but if it were my laptop I'd just go to Program Files, find the Symantec/Norton/AntiVirus folder and delete them.

Actually, I'd pop in my Windows XP Pro CD I bought from school and reformat the dern thing.

[appadv]

Actually, I'd pop in my Windows XP Pro CD I bought from school and reformat the dern thing.

Do you really think this calls for a reformat? I mean my system isn't loaded with THAT much stuff, except for the HP bloatware/junk.

[audiobliss]

I personally would, 'cause I'd much rather run AdAware, Spybot, and AVG instead of that Symantec stuff.

Do you have to? No. Uninstalling and reinstalling IE6 from that link I gave you may very well solve your problem. Then again, just switching to Mozilla Firefox (it's great!) probably will, too.

Really depends on what you want at this point.


Oh, and, again...about those screenshots... :)

[appadv]

Oops, about the screenshots I am using Print Scr for the desktop shots and Alt+Print Scr for the window shots (just so that the window fills the entire shot), paste it into Paint, but I don't compress it in paint.

Then I use Microsoft Office Picture manager to compress the shots (much better than Paint) into smaller JPEGs.

[audiobliss]

Hmmm. I don't think I have MS Office Picture Manager. But I bet I have it on a CD. I have Office 2003 Pro.

Thanks.

[audiobliss]

I can't even get my list of programs on one screen. So how would you handle that? Is there a way to get it all in one screenshot?

[appadv]

If you have Office 2003 Pro (I think) it's on the second CD. In the Student and Teacher edition, it's on the first and only CD.

[appadv]

I can't even get my list of programs on one screen. So how would you handle that? Is there a way to get it all in one screenshot?

In Add/Remove Programs or Start --> Programs?

[audiobliss]

In Add/Remove Programs.

[appadv]

In Add/Remove Programs.

Try changing your screen resolution. The higher the resolution, the more you can fit on one page.

For my PC 1280*1024 is more than enough to fit all the programs in Add/Remove Programs.

Can you post a screen shot to explain?

[audiobliss]

My screen resolution is 1680x1050 on a 21.6" LCD. :D I don't think that's the problem. :D:D

I'm just saying that I have so many programs installed that they're longer than one window. I was just wondering if there's a way to take a screenshot to include them all so I wouldn't have to take a screenshot, scroll down, and then take another one.

[appadv]

My screen resolution is 1680x1050 on a 21.6" LCD. :D I don't think that's the problem. :D:D

I'm just saying that I have so many programs installed that they're longer than one window. I was just wondering if there's a way to take a screenshot to include them all so I wouldn't have to take a screenshot, scroll down, and then take another one.

Does the Alt+Print Scrn work better? I find on my computer maximizing the window also helps.

Again, do you have a screen shot to explain?

[audiobliss]

Yeah, here it is. Screen is maximized and I used alt + Prt Scr.

[appadv]

Wow, how many programs do you have installed?!!

And a 1680x1050 screen doesn't fit it!

I don't know what to tell ya

[audiobliss]

I have 50 programs listed in Add/Remove Programs.

This is on the computer I just built last weekend. I'm only using 24GB on the main HD, so far. My Documents is on another HD.

[appadv]

I have 50 programs listed in Add/Remove Programs.

This is on the computer I just built last weekend. I'm only using 24GB on the main HD, so far. My Documents is on another HD.

I have 27 programs listed, and this is on the laptop I've had for 3.5 years.:D

Methinks you've got a lot of software around the house :)

[audiobliss]

Actually, not so much so. A lot of them are games, Office and Visual C++ are for school, and the rest are pretty much either for the web (AIM, Firefox, MSN Messenger, AVG, etc) or drivers and such.

[appadv]

I must wonder what your start menu looks like then :)

[audiobliss]

Wonder no more!

[appadv]

I like the way you have your desktop icons organized. Looks cool.

Only have 3 desktop icons though...

[audiobliss]

Most definitely.

Security is in the lower left hand corner right above the Start menu.

My web stuff is in the upper left corner.

Then my computer utilities along the top.

And my music apps below them.

And all my gaming stuff over towards the right side.

And nothing on the far right to leave room for my buddy list when I dock it.

[appadv]

This has turned from a "computer problem" thread to "let's post screenshots thread" :)

[audiobliss]

Booya!

[Polk addict]

I'm sad... You don't play wow...

[audiobliss]

Nope. I might would enjoy it, though. I'm just not into paying money for games. AA is free, and the others my friend gave to me or gifted to me through Steam. So they're all legit, but I haven't paid for any yet.

I'm DEFINITELY buying Test Drive Unlimited, though, no question about it. And GT Legends would be pretty nice.

How much is WoW? I've seen a few people play...could be fun. But I'm not sure how much I'd like it.

[Polk addict]

It's a month per month payment because it's on external servers...

[audiobliss]

Really? Wow, I didn't know that. Yeah, forget that.

[Vr3MxStyler2k3]

Hmmm

I have no desktop icons -

Havnt used desktop icons in... years

[audiobliss]

You always just use the start menu?

[appadv]

You always just use the start menu?

That's what I do, don't know about Trey.

[appadv]

ARGH!

This problem is back again! Last time I uninstalled some programs and it went away...but I didn't install anything recently and this damn thing is back!

[cnjvh]

Didn't read the whole thread but:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/899811/

[appadv]

Hmm, I think I have those hotfixes installed already...the patch seems to be from November 2007...

Why is it that I only experience this when browsing the forum?

[RuSsMaN]

Maybe because there is nothing Polk in your signature?

[appadv]

Maybe because there is nothing Polk in your signature?

I think I'm going to buy a Polk XRT12 soon...

[Face]

I'm not going through this whole thread. Do yourself a favor, dump IE, FF is the way to go.

[appadv]

I finally got rid of Symantec AntiVirus though, since so many of you were saying it's crap.

[appadv]

I'm not going through this whole thread. Do yourself a favor, dump IE, FF is the way to go.

Hey,

In your email today you told me to reformat the computer and start over. Do you think this really requires it? Seems like a minor problem except the fact that I have difficulty installing/uninstalling programs AND the occasional freeze-ups...

[nms]

Hey,

In your email today you told me to reformat the computer and start over. Do you think this really requires it? Seems like a minor problem except the fact that I have difficulty installing/uninstalling programs AND the occasional freeze-ups...

Your bizarre and random problems are probably symptoms of a deeper underlying instability in your system. If you really want to make sure it's fixed, wiping and re-installing is the best way to go (and there are other advantages, like making your computer run faster). However, if you don't want to go to the trouble to re-install, you can probably force a work-around and live with it.

With the proper precautions, re-installing an OS is not really that difficult or dangerous (to your data). It will probably take a couple of days after re-installing to get all your programs and options re-setup. If you're interested, I have some tips to help make it go smoothly :)

[appadv]

Hmm, if I *have* to do a reinstall, I'll do it, but I don't really want to. Instead I've been trying to find whatever is the culprit (I've already uninstalled Symantec AntiVirus, but that didn't help)...

These are the programs that are currently installed on my system, aside from the AntiVirus I haven't changed anything else. Would you recommend uninstalling any of these? I don't know what "J2SE Runtime Environment" or "Viewpoint Media Player" is, either.

[nms]

Damn man, running a pretty minimal system!

click on: start>run>type "msconfig" and go over to the startup tab and take a screenshot if you wouldn't mind.

The J2SE is Java, don't un-install that, I doubt it's your culprit.

What version of IE are you using? Or if you're not using IE, what browser and version?

[appadv]

Damn man, running a pretty minimal system!

click on: start>run>type "msconfig" and go over to the startup tab and take a screenshot if you wouldn't mind.

The J2SE is Java, don't un-install that, I doubt it's your culprit.

What version of IE are you using? Or if you're not using IE, what browser and version?

Here ya go:

I'm using IE6, but people have been telling me to upgrade to Firefox so I might try that. Now WTH is this Viewpoint Media Player?

[nms]

IDK what Viewpoint MP is - never heard of it.

Did you try the hotfix in the link to MS's website? It sounds like that might fix your problem.

At this point I would recommend upgrading to IE7, BUT DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK! I upgraded on a previous install of windows and it permanently killed a video editing suite I had - even after un-installing IE7 it was still broken.

To me, it sounds like the problem is in IE6, so upgrading to 7 should take care of your problem. But first I'd try the "hotfix" from Microsoft.

[appadv]

IE7? Ha, tried installing it already and it sucked!

So - I wake up, go to class, come back to my computer and find it stuck on the portion that says "backing up files." It was still installing IE7. So I wait 30 minutes and find the system completely frozen.

[nms]

IE7? Ha, tried installing it already and it sucked!

Ah, ok. Tried the hotifx? (sorry for sounding like a broken record)

[appadv]

Computer froze before it fully installed. But at least I got up to the point in Windows Update where it says "You need to install an ActiveX Control" or something like that...

[SKsolutions]

Fire













Fox.

[appadv]

Fire

Fox.

I'm having difficulty installing anything...looks like time for a reformat :(

[SKsolutions]

I would try, in order:

First in msconfig, enable all services/standard boot

1. Try the simple restore feature first
2. Some AV software and other programs track registry changes and can be rolled back (reset)
3. Try the 'R' function in the reinstall disc (your music, porn, and files stay :D ) only Windows gets overwritten.
3. Backup partition on certain models
4. Clean install


Additional reason to never use IE: It is too much a part of the OS. If you F-it up, your OS is F'd up, and that's not nice for most people.

Hope you can get it worked out. I love a fresh install, but the 'R' function in XP works really well while saving your stuff.

[appadv]

I would try, in order:

1. Try the simple restore feature first
2. Some AV software and other programs track registry changes and can be rolled back (reset)
3. Try the 'R' function in the reinstall disc (your music, porn, and files stay :D ) only Windows gets overwritten.
3. Backup partition on certain models
4. Clean install


Additional reason to never use IE: It is too much a part of the OS. If you F-it up, your OS is F'd up, and that's not nice for most people.

Hope you can get it worked out. I love a fresh install, but the 'R' function in XP works really well while saving your stuff.

Crap, apparently I turned off System Restore for some reason a while back so there goes Option # 1. And I recently uninstalled my antivirus software because people were telling me Symantec sucks.

So, are there any other options besides # 3, and 4?

[BaggedLancer]

Sell your computer, fix your projector. Problem solved.

[appadv]

Sell your computer, fix your projector. Problem solved.

Thanks for the constructive reply.

[SKsolutions]

The 'R' function will keep most of your files. Otherwise, backup and clean slate. . . or Marks suggestion.:D

[appadv]

I have two HP System Recovery discs that came with the laptop. Will those work?

[SKsolutions]

If it has a copy of XP on it, which it should. Do a search on the Repair [R] function of XP to get some instructions. Should be fine, no backup needed unless you want to really make sure you save something. In that case, copy and burn it to CD. Good luck.

[appadv]

Well, I have a lot of important files on this laptop. So I'd rather go with the repair method. The interesting thing is, the system hasn't crashed or anything like that - I use it everyday to do my homework and type up papers, and Word works fine.

Most of my problems are with IE closing in the middle of a session :(

[appadv]

I tried putting the CD into the laptop, yet it says "A version of Microsoft Windows is already installed on your computer."