So I thought I was going 2ch sooner rather than later.... [Archive]

BaggedLancer

11-19-2007, 11:57 AM

Apparently it is going to be later rather than sooner......

I bought my first item off Audiogon, a Jolida 502B tube amp. The seller shipped the item and send me the Fedex tracking information. Not really looking too hard at it, other than that the package was heading the right direction and the anticipated delivery date. The delivery date was supposed to be Saturday but nothing arrived. So I called Fedex yesterday, she told me she wasn't sure(she didn't seem sure about anything) and I recalled today to figure out what is going on. The lady on the phone told me it is definately lost because there is no record of it leaving the first facility in New York and the department will call me tomorrow because they aren't open on Sundays and Mondays.

Then, just a little while ago I noticed that the tracking information provided says the package weighes 20 pounds, which at the time I said seems about right however when I went to the Jolida side it says 39 pounds for the amplifier and 46 pounds packed. So there is no way, even if I received the package that it could possibly be the amplifier.

I tried calling the seller with the phone number he provided me and it just leads me to a big corporation. It's strange because the ad looked legit, he had the original receipt for it which he scanned into his computer and posted it with the ad, as well as the other information.

I filed a claim with paypal just to get that ball rolling but and I will try getting the ball rolling with fedex tomorrow but it doesn't matter anyway since ther eis no way the amp can be in that box.

Sorry for the long rant, but I was really excited about getting into a nice 2 channel setup and now it's going to be weeks before I see any of that money returned, if any at all.

:(:(:confused::(:(:confused::mad::mad:

JimBRICK

11-19-2007, 12:00 PM

do you still have the ad?

BaggedLancer

11-19-2007, 12:01 PM

he took it down since it was sold.

EDIT: just looked it up from the original email, says the listing expired

JimBRICK

11-19-2007, 12:03 PM

I hate scammers. I havent been hit yet but I feel for you dude.

this one looks good

http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?intatube&1200449832

you could get it for 525 shipped I'm sure. Paypal will get your money back

wingnut4772

11-19-2007, 12:04 PM

Did he have good feedback? Sorry this happened to you...

BaggedLancer

11-19-2007, 12:05 PM

I hate scammers. I havent been hit yet but I feel for you dude.

this one looks good

http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?intatube&1200449832

I have no more money available for this system. This was it. If I lose the money on this I won't be having a 2ch system. The rest of the money I made from selling my speakers is paying off my schoolbooks and other bills for next semester.

BaggedLancer

11-19-2007, 12:05 PM

Did he have good feedback? Sorry this happened to you...

Yes, he had recent positive feedback for another Jolida amplifier he apparently sold.

wingnut4772

11-19-2007, 12:06 PM

Yes, he had recent positive feedback for another Jolida amplifier he apparently sold.

But just a couple or a lot of feedback?

BaggedLancer

11-19-2007, 12:07 PM

no not alot. Just a couple from selling personal stuff. He wasn't a business or anything.

wingnut4772

11-19-2007, 12:08 PM

no not alot. Just a couple from selling personal stuff. He wasn't a business or anything.

Well I hope it works out for you. Maybe Fedex will work it out.

Ricardo

11-19-2007, 12:09 PM

Sorry to hear that; hope it turns out fine and you get your money back.

BaggedLancer

11-19-2007, 12:09 PM

Well I hope it works out for you. Maybe Fedex will work it out.

The problem is even if I get the package I know it won't be the amplifier. The package is listed at roughly 20 pounds and the amplifier weighs 39. I'm screwed either way at this point, probably a box of bricks.

BaggedLancer

11-19-2007, 12:11 PM

Sorry to hear that; hope it turns out fine and you get your money back.

Same here, I'm hoping I got that claim into before he was able to move the money out of his account and paypal tells me sorry we were unable to recover any of the funds.

Ricardo

11-19-2007, 12:12 PM

If he has a Fedex account and did everything online and stated the weight wrong, Fedex will charge with the right weight, but will not update in the tracking info;

JimBRICK

11-19-2007, 12:12 PM

I have no more money available for this system. This was it. If I lose the money on this I won't be having a 2ch system. The rest of the money I made from selling my speakers is paying off my schoolbooks and other bills for next semester.

sorry to hear that dude. I've heard paypal is pretty good in situations like this. If theres a tracking number there must be a package out there somewhere coming to you. It'll get straightened out

BaggedLancer

11-19-2007, 12:14 PM

If he has a Fedex account and did everything online and stated the weight wrong, Fedex will charge with the right weight, but will not update in the tracking info;

Alright, that's good to hear, and that is what I am hoping for.

However, the pulling of the audiogon ad, the bad cell phone number, just doesn't add up right now.

AsSiMiLaTeD

11-19-2007, 12:25 PM

BaggedLancer

11-19-2007, 12:30 PM

Yeah I would trust that FedEx weight at all. The HDMI switch I just bought from oppo said 23 pounds, which I knew at the time was wrong. Got it home and the package weighed just under 3 pounds - this was just last Thursday.

Did you send him an email to try to work it out?

Yes, no response. His previous emails were all responded within 10 minutes of me sending mine. And I also had that phone number which doesn't work.

I filed the claim with paypal to see if it can force a response out of him.

Now that you tell me about the weight thing I'm a bit less worried, but I would still like to get in contact with him. I left a message on the voicemail of that cell phone, but no return call yet.

BaggedLancer

11-19-2007, 12:31 PM

sorry to hear that dude. I've heard paypal is pretty good in situations like this. If theres a tracking number there must be a package out there somewhere coming to you. It'll get straightened out

There is a tracking number Jim. The problem is that the package mysteriously stopped being tracked according to fedex. It was picked up at their facility in New York then nothing else happened to it and it was already scheduled to be delivered on Saturday, yet now the tracking info shows no delivery date.

hearingimpared

11-19-2007, 12:45 PM

The problem is even if I get the package I know it won't be the amplifier. The package is listed at roughly 20 pounds and the amplifier weighs 39. I'm screwed either way at this point, probably a box of bricks.

That's not entirely true bud, I know someone who just received an item that was shipped via FedEx and the weight was considerably less than the item actually was.

BaggedLancer

11-19-2007, 12:49 PM

That's not entirely true bud, I know someone who just received an item that was shipped via FedEx and the weight was considerably less than the item actually was.

25-30 pounds is ALOT to try and screw fedex by.

BaggedLancer

11-19-2007, 01:03 PM

Seller just responded after receiving the paypal claim

Mark, that's how I get rate down to $25. Do not worry about package right now.
They ship packages from Monday to Friday. So it's likely in Kinko now, not yet being moved.
I never had package lost by Fedex. I guarantee you it's going to surface tomorrow.

Why do people do stupid sh1t like this? I would rather have paid the extra $$ he needed for shipping it truthfully than having to go through this crap.

danger boy

11-19-2007, 01:09 PM

wait and see what shows up on your doorstep. if anything.. i hope it's the right tube amp in great condition.. and you can then rest again.

I would also think that FedEx would know the difference between 20 pounds and 46 pounds. that would raise a red flag. That's very dishonest on his part to dupe the shipping company like that.

best of luck dude.

Gaara

11-19-2007, 01:10 PM

I wonder how much he put for $ value for insurance...probably not much to save a little coin. Hopefully it arrives safely.

shack

11-19-2007, 01:16 PM

I would also think that FedEx would know the difference between 20 pounds and 46 pounds. that would raise a red flag. That's very dishonest on his part to dupe the shipping company like that.

This could also what is holding it up. If the guy simply dropped it off at a shipping location and only paid for 20# when it is closer to 50# they may be holding up shipment until they get paid for the proper shipping weight.

shadowofnight

11-19-2007, 01:20 PM

That's not entirely true bud, I know someone who just received an item that was shipped via FedEx and the weight was considerably less than the item actually was.

Same here...I just about freaked when I tracked one of my latest subwoofer drivers ( Last week as a matter of fact ) ....it showed 38 pounds ....when the last 2 I ordered were 70 pounds. I just "Knew " they sent the wrong driver...turns out it was the correct driver...just an incorrect weight tied to the tracking number.

BaggedLancer

11-19-2007, 01:46 PM

I agree it's very dishonest. I hope you guys are right and the correct amp in the correct condition arrives here. Been excited for a long time to get something like this and for soemthing to go wrong would be extremely disappointing.

And what I don't understand is how do you actually get away with doing something like that? I mean if he gets caught there are no fines or penalties against his account?

shadowofnight

11-19-2007, 01:55 PM

If bricks show up its criminal...not just fines or a slap on his account. Take pics of the sealed package as it was delivered...preferably right in front of the driver ...hell I would even open it in front of him....all of my drivers are more then happy to wait a minute or 2 if you explain the situation to them

BaggedLancer

11-19-2007, 01:57 PM

BaggedLancer

11-19-2007, 02:14 PM

The seller just called, wow I feel a bit of relief right now. He said he does this all the time with Fedex, and because he didn't give the heads up about it he is going to send a free pair of 6550 replacement tubes in the mail behind it. He also mentioned that when he bought the amplifier new Jolida put on subwoofer outputs for him so that leaves me the option to add a subwoofer to my 2ch rig later if I want.

Nice to have a little bit of relief, but the weight won't be lifted until it arrives here safely.

shawn474

11-19-2007, 02:33 PM

Hopefully, you get the piece and it is in pristine condition. That being said, people complain about FedEx and UPS prices rising. Dishonest sellers like that one is precisely the reason why there are inflated shipping prices. Sketchy way to do business and somebody I would hardly trust for future purchases.

Shawn

BaggedLancer

11-19-2007, 10:42 PM

He got caught. New shipping weight shows 50.2 pounds and the package is moving. New delivery date is tomorrow, hoping for the best.

shawn474

11-19-2007, 10:45 PM

Keeping my fingers crossed for you, man. Hopefully it works out in your favor.

Shawn

Bill Ayotte

11-19-2007, 10:47 PM

Good stuff man, I hope this works out for you....Can you PM me where you got this and the guy's name? I am looking to pick something up soon, and this is the last thing I need...

danger boy

11-19-2007, 11:30 PM

cool.. looks like things are going to work out so far. keep us posted.. and post pics when you get it in hand. ::)

shadowofnight

11-20-2007, 12:35 AM

Good luck...hope it shows up as advertised

BaggedLancer

11-20-2007, 03:07 PM

So i have been sitting at home all day, skipping my school class waiting for this package to arrive. I just called Fedex and apparently there another delay with the package and it is stuck in a sort facility in CT. She wasn't sure when the new delivery date would be but she pretty confidently said it definately won't be today, and probably won't be tomorrow...most likely Saturday.

Now I need to waste more time waiting for this mystery package. This is the first and the LAST time I have someone ship me something Fedex Home Delivery.

danger boy

11-20-2007, 06:23 PM

don't blame Fed Ex, blame the shipper.

BaggedLancer

11-20-2007, 06:36 PM

don't blame Fed Ex, blame the shipper.

Todays delay is all fedex, the lady on the phone couldn't explain why the package was now delayed at the second facility it went to. It finally made it out of New York to CT, but now it's stuck there. This is why she couldn't give me a delivery date because she had no explanation of why it was held at the second facility.

I blame both fedex and the shipper now.

hearingimpared

11-20-2007, 07:34 PM

Waiting for a piece of gear around the holidays is stomach wrenching.

BaggedLancer

11-20-2007, 10:37 PM

Waiting for a piece of gear around the holidays is stomach wrenching.

Exactly.

I made another call just a little while ago to hopefully get a compotent employee on the other end who can provide some service. Luckily, I did.

He took my contact information, and fowarded two messages directly to the CT terminal where my package is being held. He said there is absolutley no excuse for a package to be held when it is less than 4 hours from it's final destination as it only needs to go through the final facility where it is loaded into the delivery van.

He said if the tracking information isn't updated by noon tomorrow give a call back again and figure out what is going on.

cfrizz

11-20-2007, 11:14 PM

How absolutely nerve wracking! I hate having anything delivered just for this reason!

BaggedLancer

11-21-2007, 02:24 PM

Well I can breath again. Mysteriously I got a call from Fedex early this morning saying they were able to track the package down and it was to be delivered today 100%.

It just arrived a little while ago. I just finished setting it up and the I'm following the directions for the EZ-Bias Jolida has on their new lines of amplifiers.

I never realized how big the 6550 tube was....holy crap.

Just waiting on my new speakers cables from Zingo to complete the package.

shadowofnight

11-21-2007, 02:26 PM

Right on...good to see...glad it worked out :)

hearingimpared

11-21-2007, 02:30 PM

Don't apply too much bias you'll be called a cultural bigot!:D

BaggedLancer

11-21-2007, 02:32 PM

I just turned on round 1 of ipod music and good lord am I satisfied right now. The sound is amazing to my ears......so glad I didn't sell those NHT's, this is a complete package deal now.

I am going to leave it like this for a few weeks and determine if I need to add a small subwoofer to the mix since Jolida modified this amp with subwoofer outputs, something not usually seen on 502's.

BaggedLancer

11-21-2007, 02:37 PM

jakelm

11-21-2007, 02:41 PM

More pics :D

So glad I stepped into this realm......does this mean I can post in 2ch now?

Friday I will have my LCD monitor for the Ipod display and christmas I am definately getting a 160gig black classic Ipod so I'll be able to rerip all my music with Apple Lossless.

Everything was great, up until I saw the iPod. Then you saved yourself once again by stating you will rerip to lossless format.

It is a cool little setup. Congrats..

BaggedLancer

11-21-2007, 02:46 PM

Everything was great, up until I saw the iPod. Then you saved yourself once again by stating you will rerip to lossless format.

It is a cool little setup. Congrats..

Yea, all I have right now is 4g mini so I use 320kbps for now......and just switch out albums as I get tired of them.

I hope with the 160 I can rerip everything in Apple Lossless and it will be fine. So found it sounds awesome, I was just listening to the Kid Rock CD and the biggest things I noticed so far is that the cymbals are WAY more pronounced, I could barely hear them before.

ohskigod

11-21-2007, 02:50 PM

Don't apply too much bias you'll be called a cultural bigot!:D

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

madmax

11-21-2007, 02:51 PM

Congrats on the amp, glad it arrived safely for you. The 502 has an awesome sound! Grab yourself some extra fuses, they always blow at the worst time. (And they do tend to blow for no real reason, just very tight on tolerance).
madmax

BaggedLancer

11-21-2007, 02:51 PM

Don't apply too much bias you'll be called a cultural bigot!:D

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL I just saw this. :D

danger boy

11-21-2007, 06:53 PM

BaggedLancer

11-21-2007, 06:57 PM

that's beautiful.

congrats! glad it worked out for ya.

let us know how it sounds once you get everything

So far it sounds amazing. Background details are much more pronounced, everything seems to have the warm feeling like the first time i heard a tube amp at Goodwins.

I've been listening all afternoon and unfortunately i need to go to the gym right now and can't take the tube amp with me to keep listening, but for sure it's going back in when I get home.

I think though with these little NHT bookshelf speakers I am going to need to integrate a small subwoofer of some sort...probably 8" just to pick it up on the bottom end. Not a big deal.

F1nut

11-21-2007, 07:25 PM

Don't apply too much bias you'll be called a cultural bigot!:D

CLASSIC!!!

I'm glad you finally got it, don't forget to leave a very nice positive for the seller.

Just think how much better things will sound when you get a real source and then, of course, you can post in the 2 channel section. :D

snow

11-21-2007, 08:10 PM

Congrats Mark. Glad it showed up and all is well undamaged and sounds good.

REGARDS SNOW

BaggedLancer

11-21-2007, 08:31 PM

CLASSIC!!!

I'm glad you finally got it, don't forget to leave a very nice positive for the seller.

Just think how much better things will sound when you get a real source and then, of course, you can post in the 2 channel section. :D

Just think of how much better things will sound when I get a real job, and a real house, with a real audio room to put my real source in when I buy it. :p

The budget is expired on this project for a little while.

John in MA

11-21-2007, 08:59 PM

I'm glad that thing showed up, looks like a slick amplifier.

I've learned not to trust FedEx around holidays. I had a box of flashlights for my collection coming around last Christmas. It was delayed forever, the web tracking gave conflicting stories, and when I actually called them up I got two people who each had their own entirely original description of what happened.

sucks2beme

11-21-2007, 09:27 PM

I'm glad that everything worked out. Welcome to the world of glass.
Now I'll have to go to the flea market and see how that other shipping mystery worked out.

BaggedLancer

11-21-2007, 09:48 PM

Thanks, I can't stop the music now.......

cfrizz

11-21-2007, 10:11 PM

Congrats Mark. Enjoy.

madmax

11-22-2007, 03:49 PM

Everything you upgrade around that amp will make large improvements. Enjoy every piece you have along the way, it will just keep getting better.
madmax

Rivrrat

11-22-2007, 04:43 PM

Very cool. I'd have to get the WAF seriously going on that one. I'm sure that one would cost me big.

BTW, nice interconnects on that I-Pod dock.

BaggedLancer

11-22-2007, 06:31 PM

Everything you upgrade around that amp will make large improvements. Enjoy every piece you have along the way, it will just keep getting better.
madmax

Thanks, it's going to be baby steps with this project. I want to do things right and not just rush to throw something together. I originally was going to go with a 38wpc tube amp but decided to spend the extra and go for the 60. Not to mention this has the subwoofer preout already modified from Jolida for when/if I want to add a subwoofer(I'm already eyeing the perfect match to my NHT speakers).

Ultimately, I'd love to have a rack of just Jolida equipment. Get the JD100a cdp, the JD402A tuner, the JD50A remote control unit, and the JD9A phono preamp and add some turn of TT down the road. Next purchase after the subwoofer will definately be the CDP.

Very cool. I'd have to get the WAF seriously going on that one. I'm sure that one would cost me big.

BTW, nice interconnects on that I-Pod dock.

Thanks, I'm single so no WAF here thankfully, but it definately is along the acceptable lines, especially with the small speakers. As for the interconnects, they are knukonceptz EKS silver series....I've been using their products in my home theater for a while and love the quality.

The speaker cables from Jake(Zingo) are what I'm really looking forward to now to try out and review.