Why..........

[shawn474]

the threadjacking and button pushing?????? I have been a member for a couple of years and enjoy patrolling the forum for audio advice among other topics. It seems that some here patrol the threads just to start a fight and get their rocks off upsetting people. I was told by a guy that I trust and respect when I first joined this forum to handle disagreements via PM. It is a much more respectable way to settle your disagreements and you may even find something in common with people that you don't necessarily agree with on all topics.

It seems to me that some would rather flex their keyboard muscles, vulture others posts and show everyone how "right" they are instead of contributing in a positive way to this great forum. The political arguements, name calling and downright rudeness take away from this place. Disagreements will happen; perhaps disagreements with a little respect, courtesy and class would be better suited in a lot of cases.

Shawn

[AdamRagland]

...i agree?

[danger boy]

Lets just say it's been a challenging couple months in here. But yeah, I agree.. some people take things to far some times. Button pushing came to a head recently.. and some people got banned.

But lucky for you all, i'm still here :rolleyes: :p ;)

[BaggedLancer]

Lets just say it's been a challenging couple months in here. But yeah, I agree.. some people take things to far some times. Button pushing came to a head recently.. and some people got banned.

But lucky for you all, i'm still here :rolleyes: :p ;)

Thank god, the forum would have come to an end.

[Bill Ayotte]

I have seen this on all of the forums I am on lately.....I got attacked by some guy the other day on a car forum I am on...To the point that he sent me his number "so we can meet up and I can kick your ass"....I'm not saying I was an angel in the process, but hell, I've never actually been pissed....F'in silly if you ask me...When I saw all of that pop up around here, I just stopped cruising the forum. There was a new member everyday who decided the rules didn't apply to him (Flea Market add in other sections, post whoring, etc.) and a few who just decided that they were going to come in and JUDGE.....I attribute some of it to the season, more people are indoors, and surfing the interweb, but the level I have seen is unacceptable here as well as the other two forums I frequent....I have always been pretty abrupt with my opinion on most of these matters, but I would like to think that is appreciated...There is no reason for it, and at least around here it gets dealt with pretty quick, thanks to Justin, Russ, and Doro...

[F1nut]

Why..........


Because.

[Silverti]

the threadjacking and button pushing?????? I have been a member for a couple of years and enjoy patrolling the forum for audio advice among other topics. It seems that some here patrol the threads just to start a fight and get their rocks off upsetting people. I was told by a guy that I trust and respect when I first joined this forum to handle disagreements via PM. It is a much more respectable way to settle your disagreements and you may even find something in common with people that you don't necessarily agree with on all topics.

It seems to me that some would rather flex their keyboard muscles, vulture others posts and show everyone how "right" they are instead of contributing in a positive way to this great forum. The political arguements, name calling and downright rudeness take away from this place. Disagreements will happen; perhaps disagreements with a little respect, courtesy and class would be better suited in a lot of cases.

Shawn


There’s a bit of an establishment on the Polk forums with a very set view on the world that likes to talk about it. They by and large use their post count, length of service and pack friend mentality to bully people who post up logical counter views to their arguments. You may continue to defend yourself but it ends in dog piling and they eventually start thread trolling you with personal assaults. One has no choice but to drop a logical argument and start responding to their personal assaults because they are allowed to do it. They start dropping random PM's on you to intimidate you to leave the forums. Hell, in a previous thread I was in a logical argument with people and out of nowhere one of them (the usual) strait up attacks me (which I defended) and his buddies came running in calling me an "instigator".


Its pretty much that simple.

I've said it before, I’m not intimidated by these guys. This is a public Polk forums. I’m a big time Polk Speaker fan and I've dropped a lot of money on Polks along with a LOT of free press on their fine speakers. I have as much right as anyone to be here on these forums.

Hell, the other day one of them actually sent me a PM bragging about how much money he made that day… “I made 19K sitting in my lawyers office, how much did you make”…

I had no response except “dude, I never asked for your financials, why do you think I care how much money you make”….


But it was all an intimidation tactic.

[Bill Ayotte]

There’s a bit of an establishment on the Polk forums with a very set view on the world that likes to talk about it. They by and large use their post count, length of service and pack friend mentality to bully people who post up logical counter views to their arguments. You may continue to defend yourself but it ends in dog piling and they eventually start thread trolling you with personal assaults. One has no choice but to drop a logical argument and start responding to their personal assaults because they are allowed to do it. They start dropping random PM's on you to intimidate you to leave the forums. Hell, in a previous thread I was in a logical argument with people and out of nowhere one of them (the usual) strait up attacks me (which I defended) and his buddies came running in calling me an "instigator".


Its pretty much that simple.

I've said it before, I’m not intimidated by these guys. This is a public Polk forums. I’m a big time Polk Speaker fan and I've dropped a lot of money on Polks along with a LOT of free press on their fine speakers. I have as much right as anyone to be here on these forums.

Hell, the other day one of them actually sent me a PM bragging about how much money he made that day… “I made 19K sitting in my lawyers office, how much did you make”…

I had no response except “dude, I never asked for your financials, why do you think I care how much money you make”….


But it was all an intimidation tactic.


I don't see it this way at all....I have posted counterpoints to some members who have post counts are well beyond mine, and received no such treatment. It is called tact and social skills, and some people just lack them. Some people just like to be confrontational I guess. :rolleyes:

[m00npie]

Silverti

I believe this particular thread's intent is to complain about the BS that has been going on lately. Not an inquiry as to why it is happening or an explanation.

Please save your disputes with other members via PM. Yes, you have have every right to be like everyone else. So talk about Polk speakers already or at least something Audio related.

[shawn474]

Silverti,
My post did not intend to single anyone out or take sides. In fact, this seems to have been going on a lot around here lately from a lot of different people. I'm not going to take sides here - that would just contribute to the problem. I have my own views and will keep them to myself. The only suggestion that I can give is one that was given to me awhile back. PM whoever is rubbing you the wrong way and settle these types of things like adults. This type of thing seriously detracts from the forum.

Shawn

[treitz3]

Some can just agree to disagree. Some cannot, and that's a shame.

To some, it's not "Why?", but "Why not?".

If folks agree to disagree and leave it at that................

[dorokusai]

I like to eat muffins.

[treitz3]

That's funny. I prefer pie. :p

[m00npie]

fruitcake

[dkg999]

I like my muffins strawberry blonde and juicy ;)

[danger boy]

Bottom line, don't be a DICK! plain and simple

[Bill Ayotte]

I like my muffins strawberry blonde and juicy ;)

hahahaha I was thinking the same thing....:D

[shawn474]

Bear claws, anyone?

[Lasareath]

Why?

Because all they are good for is trouble. One hand on their mouse the other squeezing their nuts. I think they get their rocks off by effing with people.

[treitz3]

Sorry, distasteful post. Removed.

Ah, crap Sal!

[Lasareath]

Camel toe? :D

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aPUj4MdINqY


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[Lasareath]

Sorry, distasteful post. Removed.

It is a shame that this sort of thing has to go on at a forum such as this. Some people need to become an adult.

Too late Tom, I got your quote!, LOL

[treitz3]

Haha, oh well. :p

[bobman1235]

Here's my two cents.

Everyone has opinions. We all forget, but online communities are big mixes of lots of different people from every walk of life. We're cramming in cultures that normally wouldn't meet. We all share audio for a hobby, but politics and religion come up and things easily get out of hand.

This forum is pretty unique in that it's such a great group of people, many of whom share more than audio in common, so these conversations often go pretty well, but folks with dissenting opinions can feel ganged up on because they're in such a minority. THey get defensive, and things go crazy fast.



I also like muffins.

[Lasareath]

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[shadowofnight]

It would be SO damn funny to have a button that transported all forum members who were online at any given time to a Roman type real physical forum enviroment. You would see a LOT of forum personalities transformed instantly...guys that start all kinds of shit online transformed into little say nothing wussies in the real world.

You would also see the other extreme as well...guys that are never confrontational online....never see them keeping a thread alive going on and on just talking crap....are really an octagon fighter in real life.

Its the INTERNET...take it for what it really is...

Damn you Sal....when I was replying here I heard this HORRIBLE music...couldnt stand it any longer and scrolled down...your video had automatically started :D

[lightman1]

HEAR!HEAR! Bob!
I'm stiil new here, but have learned a lot by reading various posts. If people would just come to learn, compare and of course, argue in a CIVIL manner about this craft, instead of coming in and trying to blow people out of the water first day. There would be less animosity.
I've opened my doors to you all and many of you have accepted. Not doing it to show off, but to learn more from others who have the knowledge. And for that I thank you.
New guys and gals, listen to them. Instead of pissing everybody off and then crying foul. Do what your ears are here for. Listening.
Russ







BIG Fluffy Muffins;)

[lightman1]

Tom, Sal. That was some funny sh!t. Bob and Tom haven't been the same since the FCC nazis (goose)stepped in. Thanks for the mammories!:D:eek:;)

[Demiurge]

I like to eat muff<strike>ins</strike>.

[tonyb]

fruitcake

Oh no......here we go again..........:)

[ohskigod]

There’s a bit of an establishment on the Polk forums with a very set view on the world that likes to talk about it. They by and large use their post count, length of service and pack friend mentality to bully people who post up logical counter views to their arguments. You may continue to defend yourself but it ends in dog piling and they eventually start thread trolling you with personal assaults. One has no choice but to drop a logical argument and start responding to their personal assaults because they are allowed to do it. They start dropping random PM's on you to intimidate you to leave the forums. Hell, in a previous thread I was in a logical argument with people and out of nowhere one of them (the usual) strait up attacks me (which I defended) and his buddies came running in calling me an "instigator".


Its pretty much that simple.

I've said it before, I’m not intimidated by these guys. This is a public Polk forums. I’m a big time Polk Speaker fan and I've dropped a lot of money on Polks along with a LOT of free press on their fine speakers. I have as much right as anyone to be here on these forums.

Hell, the other day one of them actually sent me a PM bragging about how much money he made that day… “I made 19K sitting in my lawyers office, how much did you make”…

I had no response except “dude, I never asked for your financials, why do you think I care how much money you make”….


But it was all an intimidation tactic.


your coming off a little whiney here dude. not to be hurtful, I'm just sayin................................

[Refefer]

your coming off a little whiney here dude. not to be hurtful, I'm just sayin................................

And the fun begins?

I don't know much, but I do know this is why I never attack another's opinion, especially with personal assaults. No point in trying to persuade some one that their opinion is wrong. As per its definition, opinions are subjective and everyone is right.

[shack]

The i-meltdowns are usually entertaining and always fun to follow for awhile...then they get boring...and it's time to go on to something else.

[F1nut]

There’s a bit of an establishment on the Polk forums with a very set view on the world that likes to talk about it. They by and large use their post count, length of service and pack friend mentality to bully people who post up logical counter views to their arguments. You may continue to defend yourself but it ends in dog piling and they eventually start thread trolling you with personal assaults. One has no choice but to drop a logical argument and start responding to their personal assaults because they are allowed to do it. They start dropping random PM's on you to intimidate you to leave the forums. Hell, in a previous thread I was in a logical argument with people and out of nowhere one of them (the usual) strait up attacks me (which I defended) and his buddies came running in calling me an "instigator".


Its pretty much that simple.

I've said it before, I’m not intimidated by these guys. This is a public Polk forums. I’m a big time Polk Speaker fan and I've dropped a lot of money on Polks along with a LOT of free press on their fine speakers. I have as much right as anyone to be here on these forums.

Hell, the other day one of them actually sent me a PM bragging about how much money he made that day… “I made 19K sitting in my lawyers office, how much did you make”…

I had no response except “dude, I never asked for your financials, why do you think I care how much money you make”….


But it was all an intimidation tactic.


So, would you like some cheese with that whine?

[Vr3MxStyler2k3]

This threads...

Reminds me of someone playing a very very small violin in a corner...

Hmmm

[Manilaboy]

I guess arguements in this forum or any fora can't really be avoided... might as well dedicate a thread where anyone whose got any problems with anybody can dish it out no holds barred. "The arena" seems an appropriate thread title. ;)

[ohskigod]

In response to Refefer, I have to strongly disagree that my post was a personal attack. I'll expand my point in order to clarify it. If your always going to be that guy who's opinion is....say....outside of the majority (whatever it happens to be), then your going to have ALOT of people disagreeing with you.

I've been there. IF I have an opinion that goes against the grain at the time, then so be it. I'll give the opinion, suffer the slings and arrows and move on. you cant claim people are ganging up on you if you and one other guy are the only ones that share an opinion on a certain point.

To come back and say "I'm being ganged up on here" and "I wont be intimidated" and blah blah blah (of course I'm paraphrasing). Someone countering a point your making is NOT an attempt to intimidate you. When one responds in the way I have seen Silverti respond, it invites, and incites ridicule and strife.

I've seen many people here make points, have the point disagreed with (by many), and said people have handled it with grace and panash........and have garnered more respect for it. If someone disagrees with anything I say, I dont take it personally.

IF I point out that Silverti can act a little whiney, in my eyes I'm doing him a favor, not making a personal attack.

if someone walks down the street with a huge piece of toilet paper sticking out the back of there pants, and you yell "DUDE!!!!! ya got TP coming out yer pants!!!!!!".....is that a personal attack? :D I say nay

[reeltrouble1]

yea all you old guys quit sharing your experience and doing stuff, especially if the new guy does not like it.

RT1--muffin eater

[jakelm]

I have 2360 post and have only been attacked 1546 times.......

I love this forum...:):):)

Group HUGGGGGG!!!!!!!:D:D:D:D

[shack]

http://100trees.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/sourpuss.jpg

[snow]

I guess arguements in this forum or any fora can't really be avoided... might as well dedicate a thread where anyone whose got any problems with anybody can dish it out no holds barred. "The arena" seems an appropriate thread title. ;) That would be exceptionally entertaining but not to CPs best interest :)



REGARDS SNOW

[jakelm]

I guess arguements in this forum or any fora can't really be avoided... might as well dedicate a thread where anyone whose got any problems with anybody can dish it out no holds barred. "The arena" seems an appropriate thread title. ;)


It would be more like,

The Arena 1
The Arena 2
The Arena 3
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The Arena 24
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The Arena 26
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....etc...etc...etc...etc...:p:p

[jdhdiggs]

We used to have a forum for that until Bulltinkle destroyed it out of spite.

[steveinaz]

This kind of thing goes on with all forums to some degree or another. All you have to do is ignore it. Probably the most civil of forums I've ever been on is the Poolforum and GlockTalk (believe it or not).

[MSALLA]

It's all just words on a computer for gods sake. I think some people could do with some thicker skin.

And I like my muffins brunette with olive skin. Not the low fat kind but maybe 2% or skim.

[dudeinaroom]

Because.
So, would you like some cheese with that whine?


Put a sock in it old guy

[F1nut]

Would you like some cheese too?

[dudeinaroom]

No thanks, got plenty in the fridge. Sounds like your supplying the wine though:eek::p

[F1nut]

I only drinks my cheap Merlot, but you guys enjoy your whine.

[TroyD]

with your mahegany pipe??

Lou pretty much nailed it, IMO. I think the folks that have problems, generally bring them upon themselves.

BDT

[mrbigbluelight]

I was going to post something, but I forgot what this thread was about.

..... you know, I have to get up in an hour, I really out to get to bed.

We got our turkey tonight, was going to get a bottle of wine, too. Not Merlot .... not my favorite.
Found out that liquor sales stop at 1:00 am.
Dam you Shop and Save !!

Also found out tonight that there's a lot of muffin eaters on here. I've suspected that for some time. I'll be watching.


Okay, ...... I think somewhere in here I might have covered something that will keep me from getting tasered for being off-topic.

So enjoy Turkey Day tomorrow !