Im I Being Mislead??!!

[dellingn]

I Have Recently Purchased (4) Lc265i And (1) Lci-c Center Speaker.
It Is A Must That I Have In Wall Speaker For My Set Up. I Will Be Using This For Both Home Theater And Music, But Mostly Home Theater. These Speakers Have Not Been Shipped As Of Yet And I Wanted To "exchange" For (5) Tc265i Speakers Wich Are 8 Ohms, But Seller Is Trying To "sway" Me To Keep The Original Purchased Speakers. Is He Just Trying To Make A "more Expensive" Sale At My Expense?

I Am Considering A Denon Avr2808ci Reciever. However The Speakers Are All 4 Ohm And I Am Under The Assumption That This Reciever Will Not Work Well With 4 Ohms, The Reciever Is Rated For 8 Ohm. The Seller Is Assuring Me That I Will Not Have Any Problem And The The 110 Wpc Reciever Will Now Provide 170 Wpc To The 4 Ohm's. Isnt This Over Working The Reciever And Going To Probably Cause Over Heating??? Seller States That He Makes His Living From Installing Home Theaters And That I Am Simply Incorrect And That This Particular Reciever Will Have Absolutely No Problems. Help!!!!!!

[jakelm]

The Only Problem You Have Is Capitalizing Every Word In Your Sentnce. Very Hard To Read....


I Have Never Seen A Denon AVR Have Problems With 4OHM Speakers, You Could Always Add External Amps, Via Preouts, If The Load Is Too Much For The Denon...


..Welcome To Club Polk....

[GSRBOB]

How much are you paying?

[dellingn]

I can get it only line for around $850-$875

[bobman1235]

The Only Problem You Have Is Capitalizing Every Word In Your Sentnce. Very Hard To Read....




He probably posted in all caps. If every word in your post is all caps, most forums will change it to capitalizing only the first letter of each word for some reason.

[jakelm]

He probably posted in all caps. If every word in your post is all caps, most forums will change it to capitalizing only the first letter of each word for some reason.

TESTING TESTING TESTING...ARE ALL MY WORDS COMING OUT IN CAPS...

[bobman1235]

You Quoted Me Those Words Count

[jakelm]

Ok This Time I Wont Quote You So Lets See If All My Words Come Out In Caps

[jakelm]

Damn...learn something new every day......Cool

[GSRBOB]

In HT the most important speaker is the center IMO. I say get the better center channel. And the 8 ohm 4 ohm deal is more than likely not a problem. My Onkyo is rated at 6 and 8 ohms on the spec sheet, but yet its hardware setup menu only allows for 4 and 6 ohm. If I could do it again i would have gone with a pre-amp setup.

[AndyGwis]

I don't think it will be a problem to drive the LSiC on the Denon.

It wouldn't cost you much time, money, or trouble to add an external amp down the road like others have said.

I don't think you are being led astray by the seller. You agreed to buy one thing and are trying to make a last minute change to something else. I would at least try to appease your worries about the LSiC if I were the seller as well, if only to keep from having to redo the order, maybe repackage the shipment, etc.

Sounds like a nice start to your setup. The LSiC looks and sounds impressive, so as long as it works size-wise, should be good to go.

[dellingn]

thanks guys!!

[bobman1235]

In HT the most important speaker is the center IMO. I say get the better center channel.

I've heard this a lot and disagree. I've gone 4.1 for several years now (just because of space limitations, nowhere to put the center) and have barely noticed. Obvious exceptions if you sit far outside the nominal viewing area, but if most of your seating is directly in front of the TV you won't even notice your center isn't there.

[GSRBOB]

I guess its arguable bobman.

[Lasareath]

I've heard this a lot and disagree. I've gone 4.1 for several years now (just because of space limitations, nowhere to put the center) and have barely noticed. Obvious exceptions if you sit far outside the nominal viewing area, but if most of your seating is directly in front of the TV you won't even notice your center isn't there.

Bob, Does your HT Receiver have a 4.1 setting?

[reeltrouble1]

no its not.

The Lsi line of in-walls are excellent and are above the Tci in terms of sound quality. I suppose that Denon would be the one to determine if their receiver can drive the speakers. That said its a matter of how much power you put to them.

I would get the Lsi, I would also seriously consider the performance enclosure's for them if there is any way you can install them.

RT1

[Gaara]

Some would argue that going with a phantom center is better then having a center. I don't see myself ever going back to a center channel.

As for the OP, just keep it well ventilated and listen at reasonable volumes and you will be fine.

[jakelm]

It al depends on your mains. If your mains are close enough together, then a phantom center can be achieved. But for most , the mains are too far apart to accomplish a center focal point.

My system went without a center for a few weeks (while I was building mine) and I was able to achieve a good center phantom channel. But if my mains were any farther apart, it would not have happened.

[Lasareath]

I think that the front left and right speakers are the least needed for surround. The speakers that are most important are the center and the sub.

I can turn off my two amps that power my 1.2tl's while watching a movie and all the dialogue will still be there, I can still hear the actors speak. What I will be missing is the action effects in the front.

The Minimum speakers for true HT surround is 5.1, anybody who says otherwise is a strange person. They most likely don't own a microwave, or they put plastic over their couch, You know what I mean, the kind of people who are just a little off.

[bobman1235]

Bob, Does your HT Receiver have a 4.1 setting?

Yes, they all do. Often called "phantom" mode, because it creates the effect of a phantom center channel, it diverts all the center stuff to the two mains in a way that they seem to be coming from the center. As someone mentioned, this depends on your setup and room geometry, but in my case it works.

[PolkThug]

Bob, Does your HT Receiver have a 4.1 setting?


My older Onkyo has a phantom center setting which distributes the center channel to the front L/R.

[Lasareath]

Yes, they all do. Often called "phantom" mode, because it creates the effect of a phantom center channel, it diverts all the center stuff to the two mains in a way that they seem to be coming from the center. As someone mentioned, this depends on your setup and room geometry, but in my case it works.

Ok, I never tried it.

[Keiko]

Yes, they all do. Often called "phantom" mode, because it creates the effect of a phantom center channel, it diverts all the center stuff to the two mains in a way that they seem to be coming from the center. As someone mentioned, this depends on your setup and room geometry, but in my case it works.

Wouldn't this just be operating like a normal 2 channel system with rears and a sub?

[AndyGwis]

Most important speaker all depends on what sound format/mode you are listening to.

If you have 5.1 material playing in 5.1, the center is the most important.
If you have 5.1 playing in 4.1, it works fine and the fronts are most important.

I like 5.1 and therefore agree that the center is the most important speaker. With all the different processing modes available, you can pretty much remove any speaker from a setup and be in good shape. Not as good as the material is recorded in, but good enough to listen to. Therefore, if you guys are listening to 5.1 material with a 4.1, I think it will be good, but not nearly as good as if you had a similar quality speaker for the center.

[jakelm]

I know exactly what it is!!!!

Its the 2chnl guys thinking "if I get a center speaker, I'm not 2chnl anymore, so I'll just stick with only 2 front speakers":p:p:p

[Gaara]

I know exactly what it is!!!!

Its the 2chnl guys thinking "if I get a center speaker, I'm not 2chnl anymore, so I'll just stick with only 2 front speakers":p:p:p

That could seriously be part of it. Someone spends a lot of time setting up their speakers to sound perfect for 2ch it should sound great for HT to. They already have the speakers positioned perfectly and the perfect amps, it would be a hassle to try and find a center channel to match. Not to mention the additional cost of the speaker + amp.

[GSRBOB]

Good point. I hate the way my all channel stereo preset sounds compared to just my fronts.