The times they are a-changin'.....

[TroyD]

Well, it's been a kick in the ass this week.....got a e-mail yesterday that, MSgt(select) Dion....as the Air Force's lowest ranking MSgt, you are the lucky recipient of a one year vacation in lovely Osan, Korea. WTF? I guess it could be worse, a buddy (who is also putting on MSgt) got a one year gig in Afghanistan...so at least I got booze and golf and TLW can come visit...

So, anyway...I'm thinking about this. Obviously, I'm going to have a rig in my room, I actually get a two room suite...a living room and a bedroom. So this is what I'm thinking.....the Melos pre/Dodd phono stage are good to go. Easily packed to withstand an atomic blast. The Heathkit monos aren't a problem either, really. The Sony 555ES, I've got the original box for that and can be double boxed. What I'm leary of is the Quads and the VPI turntable.

The Quads just aren't durable goods. I don't have the boxes for them. The VPI, the plinth and so forth, not as much of an issue but the arm/cart? Nope, those are guaranteed to be FUBAR. Plus, these are vintage items so being reimbursed for them is a dicking looking for a place to happen.

So, what I'm thinking is....selling the Quad's and the VPI....and getting a pair of Maggie MMG's and a VPI Scoutmaster table. At least brand new, in box, if they dick them up....hey, they are brand new...here is the receipt.

Now, I know that the MMG's aint the Quads....and when I get back, my present to myself will be, hopefully, a newer pair of Quads (988/989)...and in the time being, from what I've read and what you guys that have had them have said, they aren't anything to sneeze at.

I dunno....just spitballing at this point. What do you guys think? (and thinking about audio is better than thinking of another gov't funded f**king vacation)

BDT

[TroyD]

Oh, and now I'll NEVER get the brylcreme out of the damn pillow cases.

FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKKK.

I wouldn't be surprised if the assignment NCO received a check with "G.B Grand" in the endorsement block.

BDT

[George Grand]

I'm jealous.

The truth? I think I'd be tempted to wing it with maybe a boombox. Serious as a heart attack here. Having even remotely nice stuff over there is just looking for more worry and aggravation. You'd bring back one helluva appreciation for a good rig too.

Am I going to get a "You have to move your shit out" e-mail at the end of the tour?

[TroyD]

Hey, at least you keep the lightbill paid and the grass mowed....

You are probably right but at least ruminating about this keeps my mind occupied over shit that A. really frosts my ass and B. can't do a damn thing about.

That's ok, though, 2 yrs 10 months after I DEROS....I'm out the front gate, middle finger in the air.

BDT

[disneyjoe7]

Not sure if thats ok or that sucks. All I can say good luck, make to best of it, it's not a lifetime. Always looking for the silver cloud.

[George Grand]

That's ok, though, 2 yrs 10 months after I DEROS....I'm out the front gate, middle finger in the air.


THAT'LL teach them.

[shack]

The truth? I think I'd be tempted to wing it with maybe a boombox. Serious as a heart attack here. Having even remotely nice stuff over there is just looking for more worry and aggravation. You'd bring back one helluva appreciation for a good rig too.

I'm thinking I-Sonic with an iPod dock.

[danger boy]

can you pick up any of these stereo items in Japan so you don't have to ship them there then back again? Those Japanese always have cool electronics :)

*Oops, my bad.. you ain't going to Japan. but Korea. Nevermind. :p:p:p;)

[TroyD]

That's ok, though, 2 yrs 10 months after I DEROS....I'm out the front gate, middle finger in the air.


THAT'LL teach them.

I'm under no illusion that it will phase Uncle a bit...but it will make ME feel a whole lot better.

BDT

[cfrizz]

Wow that really rots Troy. But as you said, they could have sent you somewhere a whole lot worse.

I agree with George. I wouldn't be taking a risk having expensive gear shipped back & forth around the world. At best it might arrive in pieces,:mad: at worse, it might disappear altogether!:eek:

Isonic & Ipod is definately the way to go.

Besides, George has to have something good to listen to while he's keeping TLW company!.:eek:;):D:D:D

[skipf]

I think I would buy when I got there too, then sell it to somebody on the base when you leave. Prices should be much cheaper over there for asian units. Good chance to try out a Shandling tube CD & amp.

[RuSsMaN]

I wouldn't send that nice gear to the other side of the globe. You have any idea what they are paying for Heathkit iron over there? You might as well paint a bullseye on your back.

Get a little tube integrated and cd player that will suffice, I can hook you up with some decent bookends, done.

[George Grand]

I never considered his selfish attitude Sistuh, and I'm glad you exposed him for what he truly is.


You don't want to buy over there. I've been over there, and never heard of a lot of the names in the windows.

[cfrizz]

:eek:Cough, choke, wheeze...WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! George my food just went down the wrong tube! Are you tryin to kill me!:eek::eek::D


I never considered his selfish attitude Sistuh, and I'm glad you exposed him for what he truly is.

[TroyD]

I hear what you guys are saying.....and that's probably the way to go.

However, I'm talking the better part of two years without hifi....I dunno.

BDT

[hearingimpared]

However, I'm talking the better part of two years without hifi....I dunno.

BDT

Get an internet porn addiction, that should keep your mind off music for at least a year!:D

[steveinaz]

I'm thinking I-Sonic with an iPod dock.

BING-GO

[TroyD]

Get an internet porn addiction, that should keep your mind off music for at least a year!:D

Over a government connection? I'm thinking....uhhhh, no.

BDT

[halo]

just spitballing here but how about a nice set of cans with a decent headphone amp connected to a decent source?

[George Grand]

I'm not sure I'd want to be rockin' out with phones on when those boys rush the border. AWWW, but that'll probably never happen, right Troy?

[TroyD]

Jeeze, I'm talking planars and vinyl and you guys are giving me iPods and headphones?

I'm not worried AS MUCH about shipping things in original cartons, double boxed (that then go inside a wooden crate) that's not any worse than sending them via Fed Ex (which is how they got to my house in the first place). I'm MORE worried about the things that I can secure in original packaging, ie, the turntable....As far as the security goes, that's not an issue. Hell, I watch them seal the boxes and then the crate and my signature goes accross the seal. Then they move through my cargo system....so, I'm not worried about theft.

Like I said, I hear you on the damage end of it....I do. That's why I'm looking new on the speaks and table...perhaps the CD player too. However, at this point, I'm NOT considering going without a stereo rig.

BDT

[unc2701]

Halo read my mind. CDP, headphone Amp & some cans are gonna sound far better than any ipod dock (but ipod is still an option for source) and it's not going to get much more portable.

And if it hasn't been said yet: Dibs on the VPI!

[TroyD]

Realistically?

If those boys decided to come accross the 38th parallel....Osan would be toast in less time than it takes me to drop the kids off at the pool. Besides, right now, I'm less than an hour's drive from the Syrian border...with NOTHING in between. At least at Osan, I've got the 2nd Infantry Division as a buffer.

Did I ever tell you guys about how I scared Wendi the last time in Korea? Well, it's her first day there and she's tired and jetlagged and still in bed. So, I come home at noon and pick up lunch and bring it back to the room. Anyway, the noon horn goes off (it just means it 1200)...anyway, the speaker is mounted right outside my window and it's louder than hell. So, Wendi's asks what the whistle is, and I'm like it's the warning siren, we are under attack! Wendi starts flipping out. REALLY flipping out. So, I just start eating a sandwich and tell here she might want to eat one too...if we get taken prisoner, we probably won't get lunch. Funny, right? Nope, she is losing her marbles. I let this go on for a good five minutes before I tell her that it was just the noon whistle. She was NOT amused.

BDT

[unc2701]

Well, since you just shot down headphones, lemme throw out this idea: Gallo Ref 3's. They're durable as all hell. They're the only speakers where I thought to myself as I was lugging them up the stairs: "Hey, if I tripped right now, these guys might come out of it looking better than me"

Their only weakness is that the bottom of the grills rub against the speaker and can chip the paint off. Other that that, I'd say they could easy survive a drop off a truck in their boxes without you ever knowing anything happened.

[disneyjoe7]

Did I ever tell you guys about how I scared Wendi the last time in Korea? Well, it's her first day there and she's tired and jetlagged and still in bed. So, I come home at noon and pick up lunch and bring it back to the room. Anyway, the noon horn goes off (it just means it 1200)...anyway, the speaker is mounted right outside my window and it's louder than hell. So, Wendi's asks what the whistle is, and I'm like it's the warning siren, we are under attack! Wendi starts flipping out. REALLY flipping out. So, I just start eating a sandwich and tell here she might want to eat one too...if we get taken prisoner, we probably won't get lunch. Funny, right? Nope, she is losing her marbles. I let this go on for a good five minutes before I tell her that it was just the noon whistle. She was NOT amused.

BDT


Just shows me your years with her in marriage, how do I know I would have done the same thing myself and my wife wouldn't be amused either. ;)

God bless both of you Troy and Wendi.

[TroyD]

I just have never dug headphones...I don't know why.

BDT

[disneyjoe7]

Hey Troy?

[Keiko]

Realistically?

If those boys decided to come accross the 38th parallel....Osan would be toast in less time than it takes me to drop the kids off at the pool. Besides, right now, I'm less than an hour's drive from the Syrian border...with NOTHING in between. At least at Osan, I've got the 2nd Infantry Division as a buffer.

Did I ever tell you guys about how I scared Wendi the last time in Korea? Well, it's her first day there and she's tired and jetlagged and still in bed. So, I come home at noon and pick up lunch and bring it back to the room. Anyway, the noon horn goes off (it just means it 1200)...anyway, the speaker is mounted right outside my window and it's louder than hell. So, Wendi's asks what the whistle is, and I'm like it's the warning siren, we are under attack! Wendi starts flipping out. REALLY flipping out. So, I just start eating a sandwich and tell here she might want to eat one too...if we get taken prisoner, we probably won't get lunch. Funny, right? Nope, she is losing her marbles. I let this go on for a good five minutes before I tell her that it was just the noon whistle. She was NOT amused.

BDT
I am laughing maniacally :D

TDI in South Korea many times Troy. Team Spirit 81, 82 and 83. The Army called it cold weather training for us Tropic Lightning Grunts. Freezing ass cold but in retrospect it was one of the best times in my life. Stuff used to be so cheap there but I've heard its changed. Just think of all the soju and oscar you get to consume now. Take care. ;)

[steveinaz]

When I deployed to Turkey, I left most the big system behind. I took 1 of my 2 amps, my preamp, and a CD Player. When I arrived I bought a new pair of Polk Monitor 5jr+'s at the PX. The system sounded great.

[TroyD]

I am laughing maniacally :D

TDI in South Korea many times Troy. Team Spirit 81, 82 and 83. The Army called it cold weather training for us Tropic Lightning Grunts. Freezing ass cold but in retrospect it was one of the best times in my life. Stuff used to be so cheap there but I've heard its changed. Just think of all the soju and oscar you get to consume now. Take care. ;)

Been there, done that....I was there from 98-99. I used to HATE when all you dudes rolled in for Team Spirit, Ulchi Focus Lens and so forth.....too crowded on base.

Steve? Yes?
BDT

[Face]

http://www.mcintoshlabs.com/dealer_locator.aspx?region=asia

[Keiko]

Been there, done that....I was there from 98-99. I used to HATE when all you dudes rolled in for Team Spirit, Ulchi Focus Lens and so forth.....too crowded on base.

Steve? Yes?
BDT
Used to hate it to. Didn't have much of a choice. Had some good times now that I can reflect on it.

[halo]

Did I ever tell you guys about how I scared Wendi the last time in Korea? Well, it's her first day there and she's tired and jetlagged and still in bed. So, I come home at noon and pick up lunch and bring it back to the room. Anyway, the noon horn goes off (it just means it 1200)...anyway, the speaker is mounted right outside my window and it's louder than hell. So, Wendi's asks what the whistle is, and I'm like it's the warning siren, we are under attack! Wendi starts flipping out. REALLY flipping out. So, I just start eating a sandwich and tell here she might want to eat one too...if we get taken prisoner, we probably won't get lunch. Funny, right? Nope, she is losing her marbles. I let this go on for a good five minutes before I tell her that it was just the noon whistle. She was NOT amused.

BDTWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!

[sucks2beme]

I hear what you guys are saying.....and that's probably the way to go.

However, I'm talking the better part of two years without hifi....I dunno.

BDT

Try getting a pair of akg k1000 earspeakers. Neat stuff.
Maybe a stax set up.

My memory of Korea is somewhat sketchy.
I do recall a visit to sickbay for penicillin, yeah don't ask!

[gidrah]

4 words - Never sell the Quads!

FWIW - I bought my 10Bs in S. Korea.

[cfrizz]

:eek:First she nearly has a heart attack being awakened so rudely, then you give her another saying she was under attack.:eek: She should have kicked you in the jewels all the back here to the states! I would have!:mad::mad::mad:

Did I ever tell you guys about how I scared Wendi the last time in Korea? Well, it's her first day there and she's tired and jetlagged and still in bed. So, I come home at noon and pick up lunch and bring it back to the room. Anyway, the noon horn goes off (it just means it 1200)...anyway, the speaker is mounted right outside my window and it's louder than hell. So, Wendi's asks what the whistle is, and I'm like it's the warning siren, we are under attack! Wendi starts flipping out. REALLY flipping out. So, I just start eating a sandwich and tell here she might want to eat one too...if we get taken prisoner, we probably won't get lunch. Funny, right? Nope, she is losing her marbles. I let this go on for a good five minutes before I tell her that it was just the noon whistle. She was NOT amused.

BDT

[Face]

You're a very angry woman. Remind me to wear a cup if I ever meet you. :D

[cfrizz]

:D Actually, I am a very nice, even tempered, gentle, woman. Just don't scare the $hit out of me as a joke!:p;):D

You're a very angry woman. Remind me to wear a cup if I ever meet you. :D

[gidrah]

Boooo!

[cfrizz]

Rotflol!!!

[halo]

The times they are a-changin'..... For a second I thought this might've meant Cathy was finally going with tubes! :eek: :rolleyes: ;) :p :D :D :D

[cfrizz]

:D:eek::D ROTFLMAO!!!! Yeah right! Don't hold your breath there bud!:D

For a second I thought this might've meant Cathy was finally going with tubes! :eek: :rolleyes: ;) :p :D :D :D

[rskarvan]

:D Actually, I am a very nice, even tempered, gentle, woman. D

I don't belive in Santa Claus, The Easter Bunny, The Tooth Fairy, or the existance of a "Nice, Even Tempered, Gentle, Woman".

[Face]

:D:eek::D ROTFLMAO!!!! Yeah right! Don't hold your breath there bud!:D
I found one that has 200 watts in mono. :D
http://www.mcintoshlabs.com/mcprod/shopdisplayproducts.asp?hid=1&id=14&cat=Power+Amplifiers&prodid=1039&product=MC2102

[tonyb]

I don't belive in Santa Claus, The Easter Bunny, The Tooth Fairy, or the existance of a "Nice, Even Tempered, Gentle, Woman".

Gotta go along with Ron on this one,especially when describing Cathy.Not exactly the words I would choose.And because I like my knee caps,I'll let that be.

[jakelm]

My wife likes tube socks... funny thing is, she thinks that counts?

[TroyD]

:eek:First she nearly has a heart attack being awakened so rudely, then you give her another saying she was under attack.:eek: She should have kicked you in the jewels all the back here to the states! I would have!:mad::mad::mad:

Ah, even Wendi laughs about it now....

Mark, don't worry, if THIS pair of Quads goes, I will replace them with a newer version (988/989)

BDT

[dorokusai]

Sell everything and rebuild over there.

[woofiepaws]

Check out all the weird Asian tube gear, closer to the source, maybe find something good?

[TroyD]

One of the big problems with overseas gear is its 220 I don't want to be dicking with converters and transformers and so forth.

BDT

[cfrizz]

Oooooh what a pretty blue!:) But I don't have Macs kind of money or the room to get 5 of them!:eek::eek::p:D

I found one that has 200 watts in mono. :D
http://www.mcintoshlabs.com/mcprod/shopdisplayproducts.asp?hid=1&id=14&cat=Power+Amplifiers&prodid=1039&product=MC2102

[cfrizz]

:D Nice save there Tony.:p

What can I tell you, I had to develop a thicker, harder, tougher, more aggressive, exterior to survive in here. Otherwise, I would have been torn to shreds by some of the fellas that objected to a woman invading what they consider to be their space!

Being kind & gentle does not mean being a doormat, which is something I never could be for anyone. Just did what I had to to survive & be a part of a great community of people that help others discover the wonder of audio!:)

Gotta go along with Ron on this one,especially when describing Cathy.Not exactly the words I would choose.And because I like my knee caps,I'll let that be.

[reeltrouble1]

You should buy good shit when you get there, from there or the japs. eff lo-fi bro, its going to be just you and the music over there for most of the time, Sell the stuff before you come back, some other guy will enjoy and thank you for it. You cant get the proper voltage???

GG snores alot & loudly.................never underestimate the value of diversity, TLW doesn't.

RT1-Just a good ole boy.

[TroyD]

I'm better off not thinking of what goes on at my house when I'm not there.

Yeah, you know...a couple months, sure, suck it up and live spartan. There is only so long that I'm going to do that shit. I'm not living like a monk for the next year and a half. Eff that. I gotta have some hifi....and I figure why not dabble with something that I haven't tried before.

BDT

[beardog03]

like your plan Troy...

Your guys are doing the transport..

1.5 years without Hi-Fi ?

I don`t think so...

[TroyD]

Yeah, LITERALLY my guys. That's what I do...air cargo.

I've sewn up a pair of Vandersteen 2ci's.....so far.

BDT

[beardog03]

Go with the Dodd for a pre for sure...
It`s a great Pre amp...no question..

I still have some tubes for it , if your interested...

I`m selling my Ah! CDp also

I also have a parasound HCA-1000 that`s going soon

You have many options....but an ipod is NOT the way to go...IMPO..!!!

If your going all SS, I have a 850 Parasounfd Pre, Para tuna, and a 1000...all going soon..

I also have some speaks for ya....but looks like you have that one already covered

[ND13]

Get ya one of those sexy SP3s and some nice smaller FSs or BSs. That should do ya just fine and won't break the pigy bank, too much. I've heard great things about that int. tube amp from several owners. Might try one out myself, once I get back on my feet. I'd bet at 38 wpc, it'll would be enough for those MMGs, too.

You'll also have no problem, whatsoever, in finding some really nice gear, while there, at GREAT prices.

[reeltrouble1]

Troy, got your message, you got it, bro. Name on the box, its the least I can do.

RT1

[treitz3]

Troy, wasn't this "vacation" originally supposed to be a three month stint?

[TroyD]

This trip to Iraq has always been a four month gig.......the Korea assignment just got dropped on me this week.

BDT

[BlueMDPicker]

I just saw a spot on ABC News online. The S. Koreans are turning their highways into analog music devices in honor of your impending arrival. Check it out (http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3932245)

[TroyD]

I've driven in some frigged up places but Korea is the WORST. The roads are complete anarchy. I won't drive over there....I take the train, bus or taxi.

BDT

[beardog03]

Just plug some tubes into the highway and your golden !!

"If you larry had a little lamb"

wwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Texas42]

I had two remote tours to Korea, with the last being at Osan. Actually, not a bad assignment (as far as remotes go). MUCH better than Kunsan AB. They would 'vacation' to Osan on weekends and look so sad on the buses going back on Sunday afternoon. Count your blessings as it could be MUCh worse. As everyone is in the same boat, you can actually make it enjoyable. I didn't have a choice as I was a First Sergeant and was responsible for making sure people didn't go nuts...

Best of luck and hope you enjoy your tour!

Regards,

Dave

[TroyD]

Will do, thanks Dave!

Yeah, it was always funny to see the guys come off the 'Wolfpack Wheels' like gangbusters and then Sunday afternoon it was like the walkng dead.

BDT

[Yashu]

Have you thought about a good studio monitoring setup? You seem to want the most full and transparent sound possible, but also in a more rugged package. It doesn't get more transparent than studio monitors, in fact, 99% of your record collection have been mastered this way.

Mackie, Genelec, even NHT make wonderful monitors that are going to sound about as transparent as it gets... yet can take the abuse of being moved around a lot... they were designed for this. They are active, so there is even one less thing to worry about. All you need is a good pre and a source and you are good to go.

If there is anywhere you know that can demo a few such models before you ship out, I would consider doing it. Prices aren't even that bad compared to audiophile stuff. I am surprised studio stuff hasn't already been suggested.

[TroyD]

Thanks but that is about as far away from being a possibility as you can get.

BDT

[Yashu]

Weird... but ok, fair enough. Good luck anyhow...

[TroyD]

It's not wierd. All I'm saying is that I am leary of shipping a turntable and a pair of ESL's?

I'm not looking to reinvent the wheel.

BDT

[Yashu]

The turntable won't be as bad as it seems. The sensitive parts can all be removed, like the arm, and packed more carefully in it's own box, then double boxed. I don't see why it would be a problem packed seperately.

The quads... well you said you wanted to switch them out with newer quads or possibly other brands, like the maggies, so I just threw the studio stuff out there as an alternitive that are built like tanks and still sound transparent. The problem with them is they can be too transparent sometimes, even more than planars. If the source material has any defect, you are going to hear it. If I had to choose between a new set of quads and a set of genelecs, I would probably take the quads, only because it sucks to have to pay for the ineptitude of recording engineers. I don't have to move around a lot though. Anyway, it really depends on what you listen to... some types of music are generally mastered better than others just because there are engineers out there that don't care. A lot of classical music and jazz are recorded with a lot more care than, say, some rock music.

[TroyD]

I certainly don't agree that studio monitors are more transparent than planars but different strokes for left handed people.

Again, thank you for the suggestion and the time you spent putting together your ideas. It's not something that frankly interests me in the least.

I have a pretty extensive library of LP's/CD's and SACD's as well as a few direct copies from master tapes. In my own mind, I can tell what is well recorded and what isn't...but thank you for the lesson anyway.

BDT

[Yashu]

I am going to assume that your thanks are genuine. You are welcome.

Basically every album you own was mastered on a studio setup, but I digress. Not many audiophiles these days are truly after the "real thing", which is ok... the real thing sucks sometimes. That is a hard pill to swallow for some people, but when you have a fantastic setup at home, the live experience can be a let down. Some call mastering equipment "lifeless". I tend to agree that they can be sometimes, but then again, it is hard to make a lively recording in an artificially laid out and miced studio. Dave Wilson purposefully colors the sound of their consumer products like the Watt/puppy, MAXX2, even the Alexandria... Actually, you won't find hardly *any* audiophile speaker with a flat response. It is the illusion of musicality that sells equipment these days. Maybe Holt was right afterall.

The Quads are good speakers for sure, but yeah, I would go ahead and get the new ones. From what I understand, their build quality has been greatly improved... nowhere near as fragile.

[treitz3]

.....but when you have a fantastic setup at home, the live experience can be a let down.
What? Did I hear this right? Live music is a letdown to reproduced music?

[nms]

What? Did I hear this right? Live music is a letdown to reproduced music?

A rock or pop concert maybe, but live classical or organ will always trump the reproduction.

[lightman1]

A rock or pop concert maybe, but live classical or organ will always trump the reproduction.

+10 Nothing like "feeling" the low pipes shakin' your gizzard. I'll take a live organ set over a recorded one.

[hearingimpared]

... Actually, you won't find hardly *any* audiophile speaker with a flat response. It is the illusion of musicality that sells equipment these days. Maybe Holt was right afterall.



That flat response business is a bunch of doo doo in my book and I'll tell you why.

Back in the 80s when I had my own business, I took the time set up several speakers of various brands (SDA/SRS included) to output a flat response of all frequencies using a 120 band equalizer and several different microphones.

Every time I did this no matter what material I played, classical, jazz, rock, pop, blues, R & B etc it sounded awful!!! I mean each and every time I though I blew tweeters or output amps. I understand why a speaker company would say, "so & so tweets put out a flater response to this and that frequencies" but that I feel it is another one of those meaningless specs.

As far as the "illusion of musicality," your perception as well as mine is totally different in every way so that illusion of musicality you speak of may be exactly what I am looking for in my home reproduction of music. Holt is right when it comes to what he likes but is dead wrong when it comes to mine.

Just my opinion and experience here.

[TroyD]

Again, I know what I like and I know what I don't like.

Listening in an anechoic chamber to ruler flat response is not it.

BDT

[Yashu]

I am not disagreeing with you. I was speaking of the typical audiophile "ethos" of total transparency and flat response. It looks good on paper, but it doesn't sound as good in practice.

If more audiophiles actually heard a true studio setup they would probably appreciate their own little world even more, even after learning that it is slightly fabricated. Your experiments only confirm this... "musicality" is more art than science. It makes sense, in a way, because these devices are reproducing the sounds of musical instruments, so they should be built as if they are instruments themselves.

[TroyD]

I wasn't responding to you...I was responding to hearingimpared.

BDT

[F1nut]

I always appreciate my own little world even when I'm zipping around in my fast car, listening to my fast music. Does that mean I have a small pecker too!?!

[Lasareath]

I always appreciate my own little world even when I'm zipping around in my fast car, listening to my fast music. Does that mean I have a small pecker too!?!

Jesse,

Don't you drive a van?

Sal

[TroyD]

Have you ever ridden in it with him? It qualifies.

The less I know about F1's pecker, trust me, the happier I am.

BDT

[F1nut]

Just buzzing towers here tonight folks, buzzing towers.

[Yashu]

Stop giving that guy a hard time, will ya? You already got banned for it once.

I wasn't responding to you...I was responding to hearingimpared.

I was as well, responding to him. We posted at the same time.

[F1nut]

You sir, are clueless. Sal is a good friend of mine, so mind your own business.

[HiPerf360]

Ouch, that's going to leave a mark.



LOL

[TroyD]

Foot? meet Balls.

BDT

[shack]

Buzz him again...Buzz him again...

[reeltrouble1]

Once again the village has called looking for their idiot. Last seen wandering aimlessly blowing on their Yazoo.

RT1

[Lasareath]

Stop giving that guy a hard time, will ya? You already got banned for it once.



I was as well, responding to him. We posted at the same time.

Hey, F1nut is my buddy and these posts all contain inside jokes, we're laughing our asses off and your still confused!, LOL

[Yashu]

I knew what you guys were talking about. You quoted two separate messages of mine though... replying to two separate and unrelated things.

How do I type out the sound of what a Yazoo makes?
That's how.

[treitz3]

Well, it's been a kick in the ass this week.....got a e-mail yesterday that, MSgt(select) Dion....as the Air Force's lowest ranking MSgt, you are the lucky recipient of a one year vacation in lovely Osan, Korea. WTF? I guess it could be worse, a buddy (who is also putting on MSgt) got a one year gig in Afghanistan...so at least I got booze and golf and TLW can come visit...

So, anyway...I'm thinking about this. Obviously, I'm going to have a rig in my room, I actually get a two room suite...a living room and a bedroom. So this is what I'm thinking.....the Melos pre/Dodd phono stage are good to go. Easily packed to withstand an atomic blast. The Heathkit monos aren't a problem either, really. The Sony 555ES, I've got the original box for that and can be double boxed. What I'm leary of is the Quads and the VPI turntable.

The Quads just aren't durable goods. I don't have the boxes for them. The VPI, the plinth and so forth, not as much of an issue but the arm/cart? Nope, those are guaranteed to be FUBAR. Plus, these are vintage items so being reimbursed for them is a dicking looking for a place to happen.

So, what I'm thinking is....selling the Quad's and the VPI....and getting a pair of Maggie MMG's and a VPI Scoutmaster table. At least brand new, in box, if they dick them up....hey, they are brand new...here is the receipt.

Now, I know that the MMG's aint the Quads....and when I get back, my present to myself will be, hopefully, a newer pair of Quads (988/989)...and in the time being, from what I've read and what you guys that have had them have said, they aren't anything to sneeze at.

I dunno....just spitballing at this point. What do you guys think? (and thinking about audio is better than thinking of another gov't funded f**king vacation)

BDT
Can we stick to the topic?

[TroyD]

<<swerving back on to the road>>

This is where it stands now.

I'm taking a pair of Vandy 2ci's / Sony SCD-555ES (modded) / BDT tube phono stage

I'm still up in the air on the pre/amp and table.

I'm about 90% sure I'm going to offer up the Quad-63's for sale in anticipation of a newer version in about a year and a half.

I have a couple of STELLAR amp/pre options due to the generous nature of the forum brethren....so, I'm undecided about that.

What I'm really perplexed about is the table.

BDT

BDT

[Yashu]

Vandersteens, alright... now we are talking the same language, great choice.

[TroyD]

I'm so glad that you approve

[gidrah]

4 words - Never sell the Quads!



Atleast not until I can afford them.:(

[TroyD]

Atleast not until I can afford them.:(

Mark, it will be about a month or two before anything happens...if you are interested, let me know and perhaps we can work something out.

BDT

[jflail2]

Good luck Troy. Dad spent a little over a year at Osan working on TR-1's back in the late 80's. I hated him having to go, but all the cheap clothes, shoes etc were kind of cool :)

[mrbigbluelight]

Curious as to what your housing situation is going to be in Korea.

Do you quarter on base, or is it possible/common practice for a couple of guys to rent out a cheap house off base ?

Either way, won't you be somewhat limited on the level of gear you set up ?

On base: "Hey, hold the noise down !"
Off base: "Thanks, GI, for lending us your fine gear"
(note left on kitchen table for you to read while you were out)


.....I hope this post meets your approval.

:rolleyes:

[halo]

Good luck Troy. Dad spent a little over a year at Osan working on TR-1's back in the late 80's. I hated him having to go, but all the cheap clothes, shoes etc were kind of cool :)When my brother was in the Corps doing maneuvers in Seoul (Team Spirit - 1988) he got a bunch of blankets and a lot of leather goods.

Said the same thing you did about driving over there - said it was insane, he used the pony cars.

Hope all is well, Stay safe!

[TroyD]

Curious as to what your housing situation is going to be in Korea.

Do you quarter on base, or is it possible/common practice for a couple of guys to rent out a cheap house off base ?

Either way, won't you be somewhat limited on the level of gear you set up ?

On base: "Hey, hold the noise down !"
Off base: "Thanks, GI, for lending us your fine gear"
(note left on kitchen table for you to read while you were out)


.....I hope this post meets your approval.

:rolleyes:

No, I will live on base. I still have a house to maintain back in the states so even if I wanted to live downtown (which used to be VERY uncommon unless you brought your spouse over without command sponsorship), I couldn't afford it. Plus, everything is convenient living on base.

Now, as to the setup....as a SNCO, I get two rooms about 15x15, IIRC. One is a bedroom, the other a living/sitting room. They are both wired for US 110v electricity as well.

BDT