Polk Audio RTi A7

[BottomFeeder]

Anybody got a listen on to these?

Whaddya think?

[obieone]

Any review of the new 'RTi A' line would be nice

[AudioFilet]

I have just bought a set of RTi A3's. They will be waiting for me when I get back from Asia Jan 18. They will be put to the test. I have a set of LSi9's & a set of RTi 6's to compare them to & will post my observations here.

[BottomFeeder]

Fantastic! I look forward to reading your reviews upon your return.

Thanks!

[Yashu]

Aren't the changes only cosmetic?

[BottomFeeder]

I know that that's what Danger Boy is thinking, but so far, no one's seemed to know for sure.

Let us know if you find out!

[Yashu]

I hope the changes are more than just cosmetic. It would be nice to have a slightly sweeter top end. That was the only real flaw in the RTi series, a bit too bright.

[prashanth957]

I heard the new RTiA7 y'day for 2 hrs.OVERALL NOT MANY DIFFERENCES BUT SLIGHTLY BETTER.the cabinet has a nice curved shape.nice legs in place of spikes.finish looks more richer n much better than rti10.the salesman told me tht the midrange is better .i cudnt say as it was a fresh peice n was driven by a 70 watt denon pma-1500.but the treble was very sweet n clear,not at all harsh.the rear port also has a better machined part .i even saw movies with the stereo setup n i didnt miss anythin.-the dialogues,thunder,action e'thin was present.

I'M BUYIN THESE FOR SURE.BUT PLS SUGGEST ME A BETTER stereo AMP.AM CONSIDERING NAD C372-150watts X 2; ROTEL RA 06-70watts X 2.or any other samp which wud drive these speakers to their full potential.

[polkseller]

I sell polkaudio speakers, Energy and many others.

When the A7 arrived, I felt they were in a completely different league than the RTI10 they replace.

Ask me any questions on them. Did many extensive testing with many brand of receivers, except poweramps. Side by side to the rti10, the A7 shines.

Better bass definition and power, better soundstage, better midrance to high coherence, better lower mid to lows coherence. Highs are well balanced and not bright like the A5. Nicer looking too. Good job polk.

The only RTI A serie product that I felt cabinets were lesser quality than the RTI line is the RTI A3, small resonance occur on this medium size curved cabinet as opposed to the RTI 6.

[prashanth957]

Hello polkseller
Thanx 4 the nice review.As u've tested the speakers with many receivers, can u suggest the best stereo amp for rtia7? i'll be usin it primarily for music.
my room size is nt very big-16 ft x 12ft
My 1st choice is NAd C372.

[dorokusai]

The only RTI A serie product that I felt cabinets were lesser quality than the RTI line is the RTI A3, small resonance occur on this medium size curved cabinet as opposed to the RTI 6.

I agree with this comment as they are a bit resonant out of the box. They would probably benefit from a piece of black hole or similar loudspeaker treatment to tame that issue.

[Diversion]

I listened to the RTiA7s for a good while.. They were bi-wired hooked up to a Yamaha 3800 (140watts) and they sounded just as good to me as the stores $5000 a piece Martin Logans.. They are a phenominal deal and provide EXCELLENT seperation in music.

I picked up a pair after hearing them! :) I will report back with results in my home.

[polkseller]

Hi Prashanth,

I'm sorry to say I'm not able to refer you to a good power amp mainly because I only sell a/v receivers in my store, but I think the A7 need at least 130 watts of good quality receiver power to perform like they should. Sure, getting a nice 200-300 watt power amp will really give you the best performance at low volume (high amp rating)

I think that the Nad should be a good choice for the A7 mainly because of the good power (150watts) it deliver. But I'm not a fan of NAD newer amps, I prefer the old stuff from this company, I think it sound better/richer wider/fatter. But I've only listened to newer low power amps and entry-level integrated..

Other choice you have is cambridge A640, acurus dia-100 and the yamaha RX-797 (small integrated nad killer)

The best is to go listen to them and choose one that exceed 130 watts in stereo with good reserve and damping factor.

THe A7 performs very well with pioneer vsx-1017 and up, All elite receiver ( bi-amp or not): VEry good large soundstage, excellent imaging,well balanced, amazing control over all tonality at all volume. Good bass, great mids, good retreival of small details. My preferred choice. PLUS: Very musical breathtaking sound. Solid 0 db performance, no sweat, no distortion. PHASE control, many advanced audio options.

Denon 2808: Excellent deep and large/high soundstage, very good imaging, BIgbig bass, better microdynamics than the pioneer but sound more acoustic/analytical (less musical). Very good retrieval of small details. More harmonics on the highs (resonance). Overall a good choice depending of your taste. PLUS: Very neutral, it open up the Polk highs resonance and it is very easy on the ears. NEG: power comes like a dirt bike..

Yamaha 6190: Very toneful even at low dbs, less detailed than the 2 others. Fat sounding may give you the impression of quality sound at first, ok soundstage, good imaging, ok microdynamics, natural sound. Distort before -3 -4db (dont know why, might be speaker wire..).
Plus: In stereo, this receiver is a REAL KILLER, amazing sound and power comparable to power amps.

Its A very good amp but I dont think it's a good match for the A7 near hi-fi sound. Didnt try to bi-amp with this amp.

Hope this help everybody. Diversion, you should carefully listen to your yamaha with the polk and also try the pioneer or Elite before keeping the yamaha forever. For the price you paid, you can Get a nice Elite amp that really are gems to keep. They are tuned at AIR Studios and THX certified, they are nice peices of equipment.

only my 2 cents, but as an audio/video expert, I have no choice to advise you to try the Elite brand.

[BottomFeeder]

Thanks very much for the review, polkseller. What is the price of the A7?

And what about the RTi 9?

Anyone else out there get to listen to these babies?

Thanks

[Fongolio]

My review is posted on the main product page with the RTiA7 info. My name there is Kelvin F. I have had the speakers about a month now and they are pretty much broken in and sound fantastic. I found the previous RTi series had very bright highs. These do not. Still clear and clean but not harsh like I found the RTi10's. The high end sounds a lot like my beloved RTi70's which have been moved to surround duty. And as I wrote in my review with the RTiA7's up front they integrate with my CSi40 center seamlessly. These are are running on a single Pioneer Elite VSX52TX surround receiver. The rated output is 110 WRMS. I very rarely crank things really loud and they play at low volume superbly. My biggest concern before bringing them home was the low sensitivity rating (89dB) which means they need a strong amp to power them loud. For my purposes the Elite works very well. On the occasions when I do crank them up the neighbor bangs on the wall long before distortion is heard. Oh ya and the other great thing about these is that my sub is used only for the very low end. I have it set to crossover at 80hz while the RTiA7's are set to full range. Very very good low end on these. Not too boomy. All around a very balanced speaker that is worth a lot more than the suggested retail in my opinion. And that leads to my final comments: these speakers were already on sale at Future Shop (in Canada eh!) and then there was a friends and family promotion that took another 20% off so I got them for $713.00 canadian plus tax for a pair!!! Unbelievable price for the best sub $5000.00 speakers I've ever heard. Buy them now. You'll love them.

[polkseller]

very good buy fongolio !!

You bought them under cost !!! Family sale gives you a rebate on product already on sale..

I agree those speakers are amazing, way better than the rti10 in my opinion.

Did not listened to the A9, seems nice but the A7 are soooo great that I dont care for the moment, plus the A9 needs a lot of power to shine so driving them with a receiver will not give them good sound..

I hope theres no cabinet resonance on the A9 like the A3...\\\

I Demoed the A7 without a subwoofer all the time !!!!! AMAZING

[Diversion]

Reporting back with after having my RTiA7s + Yamaha 3800 receiver.. I am still amazed by the quality and clarity these speakers have to offer.. It seems like my right speaker sounds brighter than the left though, but it could be my imagination.. or a speaker wire problem. Otherwise, i'm in love with the sound.

[BottomFeeder]

Thanks for getting back & for the review on the A7's.

Sounds like they're worth a listen!

[1fastz28]

howdy all, new here

i am kinda new to the whole audio world, i sold tv's at circuit city, and now i sell tv's and home theatre at a small local place. my knowledge of speakers is very limited but from what i've heard of the towers we carry, klipsch, energy, polk, the new a7's have impressed me so much i ordered a pair for myself. i had planned on buying the store demo speaker rti 10's but once we go the new 7's in and i compared them to the old ones, its a truely night and day difference. the 10's sound like they are underwater compared to the 7s, i can't even imagine what the 9's sound like, unfortunately we don't carry them. i think they sound better than the energy rc 70's that we carry and much better than even the klipsch rf82's. at work we push the speakers with a pioneer vsx92txh and it really does a nice job pushing them, i'm a huge newbie with speakers so i dont know that much about speakers, i just know that they sound better than anything else i've heard, and so much so that i bought a pair of them and will be firing up my dads old receiver.

[McLoki]

It seems like my right speaker sounds brighter than the left though, but it could be my imagination.. or a speaker wire problem.

Typically in situations like this I would blame the room or placement. i.e., wall open on one side and sliding glass door on the other (causing reflections) or something like that. Look at the room and try to think of what would absorb sound and what would reflect it. Do you have more absorbing things on the left or more reflecting things on the right?

It is usually something simple like that rather than a wire or speaker problem. (you could also swap the left and right speakers and see if the brightness stays with the speaker or location....)

Michael

[wallstreet]

Here's an excerpt of the review I'm working on for the A5's,
If you like the Polk sound, the A5’s faithfully reproduce the sound I grown accustom to over the years. Clear distinct highs, faithful midrange, and surprising good bass from the most diminutive of the speaker line. These speakers aren’t bottom dwellers by any means. But they dig deep enough to provide respectable 2 channel listening pleasure.

[broncsrule21@]

I listened to the a9s and ....wow! Very nice. My question is are they too power hungry for my Denon 3808ci? Would I be better off with the a7s? Any opinions would be welcome..

[dorokusai]

The Denon will run either one just fine.

[markmarc]

Im hoping to have a pair of RTiA3 arrive for review in the next week:D

[MADGSF]

Not that this applies to the thread topic but I feel like throwing in my .02 cents. I am currently demoing the A5 and have them in place of the RTi-10s listed in my sig.

I have had them for about 3 weeks and while they don't go as low as my RTi-10s here is what I have noticed. Compared with the last version the cabinet is much, much better looking. Separation is noticably better and the highers are ever so slightly laid back. This was the biggest thing I noticed as my RTi-10 can be bright at the right volume with certain music.

This makes me really want to try the A9 or A7 as I have plenty of power to drive them. Maybe we can get a DFW demo ring going on the A9s, hint hint Russ, is this thing on?

[Fongolio]

I hooked up my RTiA7's to a Carver HR-772 that I got at a pawn shop for $80.00 and the already very impressive speakers were made totally awesome. I had doubted the 20Hz bottom end claim until now on these babies. Deep deep bass, smooth midrange and extremely articulate but not bright highs. I'm also using a Yamaha turntable (Dual CS606 classic is on the way) with vinyl. I was impressed with the RTiA7's from the moment I heard them but had no idea they were this good. I still love my Pioneer Elite VSX-52TX for surround (dvda, sacd, home theatre) but this just shows that with the right equipment these speakers are exceptional. That old Carver receiver is a gem as well. Still looking for a remote for it too.

[maximillian]

So how would RTi A5 or A7's compare to an LSi9? Anyone compared them?

[polkseller]

I'm really trying to find this information... I might buy both of them..and write back.

[dorokusai]

Fongolio - That's awesome, thanks for posting! Try and stop by the product pages and post your review there as well. Got any pics?

Maximillian - The LSi series is what it is for a reason.....Polk's showcase series. It's a much more accurate and warm loudspeaker compared to the RTi series. I prefer the LSi7 overall.

I've had the RTiA3, RTiA5 and RTiA9 in house and under demo. The overall performance is improved, mainly due to the cabinet redesign with less resonance and coloration. It still anchors the RTi line as a perfect choice for home theater. If it was drastically different, it wouldn't fit in the lineup as well....to me at least.

[wallstreet]

...

This makes me really want to try the A9 or A7 as I have plenty of power to drive them. Maybe we can get a DFW demo ring going on the A9s, hint hint Russ, is this thing on?

That's kind of how I was left feeling. The A5's are a great speaker which means the A9's are probably a fantastic speaker.

[meirco11]

i have the polkaudio a few days.they looks great in cerry finish but dont sound so great.
i use them to 2 ch. music and they working with a NAD amp (c372). untill now the sound is kinda poor.........break in thing??.....mmmmm i realy hope that is true.all the break in theory.

[meirco11]

i have the polkaudio rti a7 about a few days now.they looks greay in a cerry finish.my use is 2 ch. music only. they dont open up yet and the sound not so great even with my NAD c372 amp.(monster cable z1 reference)i also have the polk rti6 and the lsi9.
i realy hope that the sound of my new rti a7 will change very soon. i read alot about the break in theory(soory about my bad english:))and i now that its a true thing. a new speaker must work at list 100 hrs to break in.even with a strong amp.sooooooooo......i will give them the chans to break-in and to improve and prove themself.:D

[meirco11]

rti a7. looks great and sound not so great. i have the rti a7 a few days now and the sound is kinda poor even with my NAD c372 and my monster cable z1 reference.

[danger boy]

Welcome meirco11, they should sound pretty good. I wonder if there is some set up in your NAD that needs to be adjusted. what do they sound like? no bass, or what? please explain

[meirco11]

hi!!! rti a7 or rti a9? maybe rti a5?? all the new rtis series are really fantastic. the last rti series was good too but the new rti A far more better.;)
my name is meir and i from israel. in israel polkaudio speakers very very very expensive: i spend 2500$ on the lsi9!! 1000$ on the rti6 and allmost 3000$ on the rti a7!!! can you belive it???:(
it is a crime!!! it is a shame!!!

[meirco11]

hi danger boy:)my english is not so very good so forgive me on that.my nad 372 is on a FLAT position and i find this position pretty good. i use a monster cable z1 referene(very good) and 300$ RCA,monster cable m1000i from the c372 to the nad c542 nad cd player,and monster m300 to the nad 445 DAB tuner. i think that my gear is pretty good.
the bass of the rti a7 is deep and tight.but since the speakres only 4 days old i expect them to show improvment in a next few weeks. the rti a7 looks very impresive and in cerry finish it is just great speaker.

[meirco11]

the rti a5 is a pretty good speaker. the rti a9 enjoy the benefit of 3 7" woofers. i have the rti a7 a few days now.try them and solve all your dilemas.:o

[meirco11]

does sombody can tell me how long i have to wait until my new polkaudio rti A7 will complite his break-in? i now that a new speaker dont sound pretty good at first and he needs to work at least 100 hrs.
am u rihgt? or maybe wrong?
waiting for someone that realy now the facts about the break-in of speakers.
i admit that my new polk rti 7 dont sound so great now and i hope that its a metter of time until i will hear any posetive change.
thank you brothers.;)

[Fongolio]

My RTiA7's are about 4 months old now and they sound fantastic. Room placement is very important with these speakers. Try not to have them backed up to a wall or too close to a side wall. I have mine toed-in a bit. When I use them in two channel mode the bass is so deep and full no subwoofer is required. Beautiful mid range and perfect highs with my Hafler amp and Carver pre-amp.

[meirco11]

:mad:the rti a7 let me down.after one week i can tell you brothers that the polkaudio rti a7 looks great but the sound is pretty bad. i feel so bad about that......what i can say or do?? with a new NAD C372 amp.....what more i can do?? the rti a7 let me down big time!!!:confused:

[Fongolio]

Something in your setup must not be right. Every review or comment I've heard about these speakers (and my own experience) is extremely positive. Your posts are somewhat confusing too. I understand your english is not perfect but on one hand you say: "the bass of the rti a7 is deep and tight.but since the speakres only 4 days old i expect them to show improvment in a next few weeks" and then talk about how bad they sound. I can only speak for myself but I personally like deep and tight bass. What is it about the sound you don't like? Please be specific.

[steveinaz]

:mad:the rti a7 let me down.after one week i can tell you brothers that the polkaudio rti a7 looks great but the sound is pretty bad. i feel so bad about that......what i can say or do?? with a new NAD C372 amp.....what more i can do?? the rti a7 let me down big time!!!:confused:

Hi Meir
Have you tried different speaker placement? Maybe bring them out into the room a little more? The last 3 sets of tower speakers I have had all sounded best in almost the same location--about 11" off the wall from the rear of the cabinet, with 1/2" of toe-in, about 8ft apart. Can you describe what it is that you do not like? You have some nice equipment, I'm a little confused as to why you feel they don't sound right.

Some speakers take longer than others for break-in. Usually midranges and tweeters break-in soonest (1-2 weeks), woofers taking longer, sometimes even months to loosen up. After break-in, you may have to re-adjust your placement.

[meirco11]

dear brothers:
maybe i just have to wait and stop to complain.iam 41 year old, iam not a little kid that cry on evrything,i must to wait 2 or 3 weeks more. i thank you all ,good souls who giving me advices and trying to help truely;)
realy,thanks alot!!

[steveinaz]

No problem Meir, welcome to Club Polk!

[meirco11]

to steveinaz.thanks!!
i glad to be part of polkaudio family.

[meirco11]

rti a7 cerry finish
rti6 cerry
jbl lx60 (the floorstandung virsion of jbl lx44)
amp:NAD c372 150x2
cdp:NAD c542, sony cdp-591.
dvd player pioneer dv-355
tuner: NAD, DAB c445.
speakers cable:monster cable z1 reference
RCA:MONSTER M1000i. monster m300.
:)thanks

[Lasareath]

rti a7 cerry finish
rti6 cerry



meirco11,

Yeah I love my cherry finished rti6's as well, they look really cool!

You might want to try some different speakers wires, I've tried all those monster z series wires and they were not good at all.

I'd reccomend some signal cable speaker wires.

Sal

[McLoki]

Merico - I am sure it was meant as a light hearted joke. No real offense intended.

[tonyb]

Meirco,
Welcome to the club.Most of us have a strange sence of humor here so take comments like Laz's with a light heart.That being said,if you can give us more info on how you have the speakers set up,placement,etc,we can better help you.With the limited info you have given us,something in your set up menu may need to be tweeked.Also,the monster Z1 cables are not exactly the best match in my opinion.Can't believe what you paid for your speakers.I might have been tempted to keep the LSI 9's and add a sub woofer to it to round out the bottom end.

[Lasareath]

יש אנשים שהיו צריכים לשחוט אותם ברגע שנולדו,אחד מהם זה אתה,אנטישמי ארור ומטומטם.חבל שיש בפורום הזה של פולק זבלים כמוך שבמקום להתרכז בעקר הם צוחקים כאן על אנשים שכותבים בשגיאות כתב.אתה אכן מטומטם,לך תמצוץ לישו ותחזור,אולי זה ירגיע אותך,בן אלף זונות.

Sorry man I can't read that. My brother-in-law is Jewish, I'll aks him to translate it for me ;)

[tonyb]

After that translation.......I'm going to leave this alone and bow out gracefully.

[McLoki]

After that translation.......I'm going to leave this alone and bow out gracefully.

I agree +1

[markmarc]

I've had the RTiA3 in my secondary rig for about 10 days now. Initial impressions (by no means final), tweeter sounds a bit smoother, mids a bit more natural, bass is a bit sloppy. I think Dorokusai is right that some Black Hole treatment would improve things. Interestingly, when giving the cabinet the knuckle wrap test, it sounds almost plastic. May be due to the wood laminating process, as unlike the LSi's the speaker is fairly lightweight.
We'll see what happens once I plunk it into the my main rig with better room acoustics, etc.

[Meechsterlee]

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[dorokusai]

I've had the RTiA3 in my secondary rig for about 10 days now. Initial impressions (by no means final), tweeter sounds a bit smoother, mids a bit more natural, bass is a bit sloppy. I think Dorokusai is right that some Black Hole treatment would improve things. Interestingly, when giving the cabinet the knuckle wrap test, it sounds almost plastic. May be due to the wood laminating process, as unlike the LSi's the speaker is fairly lightweight.
We'll see what happens once I plunk it into the my main rig with better room acoustics, etc.

The larger models sound better, more solid, in regards to the cabinet construction. I was pretty taken back by that as well.

[dfranks]

Here's an excerpt of the review I'm working on for the A5's,
If you like the Polk sound, the A5’s faithfully reproduce the sound I grown accustom to over the years. Clear distinct highs, faithful midrange, and surprising good bass from the most diminutive of the speaker line. These speakers aren’t bottom dwellers by any means. But they dig deep enough to provide respectable 2 channel listening pleasure.

I agree wholeheartedly!

[dorokusai]

Like sands in the hourglass.....so our the days of our lives. {cue music}

[broncsrule21@]

I am new here, but how long do the mods let this type of crap go on??

[BaggedLancer]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/67/215299855_e4eeeeeeea.jpg

[BaggedLancer]

I am new here, but how long do the mods let this type of crap go on??

Just until someone snaps. Then the thread gets locked and someone gets a mini vacation for 3-10 days. :D

[Fongolio]

This is why there is still war in our modern world. Everybody needs to step back take a deep breath and relax. The post that started it although insensitive and inappropriate was not meant to be hurtful. The reaction and the things said after that do appear to be hurtful on both sides. It only excalates from here to total hatred and for what? Everyone ask themselves if this is worth it.

[Lasareath]

lasareath said that iam bad like the people who flew planes into the twin towers. if you realy think so,then iam more then happy that osama b. laden did what he did.i do understand your sorrow and i do understand that the clowen g.w bush cant do nothing about that.
my rti a7 twin towers are far more importent then the twin towers that taken on an amazing operation.
if you realy think what you wrote then shame on you.

I'm sorry for making fun of your spelling, Please try to forgive me

antisemtic pig you can call to your father that broght to the world natzi like you.you also have your partner meechsterlee gering whos like your ugly joke. both of you are natzis pigs, you also eat pig so its ok.

to tonyb:i read what you wrote and i thank you.
to Mcloki: thank you too.

Wow man, you need a Hug bad, I just want to Love all people. Please don't hate me like this!

[Lasareath]

I am new here, but how long do the mods let this type of crap go on??

What Crap?

[Lasareath]

This is why there is still war in our modern world. Everybody needs to step back take a deep breath and relax. The post that started it although insensitive and inappropriate was not meant to be hurtful. The reaction and the things said after that do appear to be hurtful on both sides. It only excalates from here to total hatred and for what? Everyone ask themselves if this is worth it.

I made fun of his spelling, I was wrong. I'm sorry, Do you think he can forgive me?

[BottomFeeder]

Wow! I started this thread & whoa, nellie, has it taken an amazing turn!

Walk away, my Polk brethren! Walk away! Maybe just stick w/audio related discussions & don't be so quick to fly off the proverbial handle.

Now back to the RTi A7...

[Lasareath]

Wow! I started this thread & whoa, nellie, has it taken an amazing turn!

Walk away, my Polk brethren! Walk away! Maybe just stick w/audio related discussions & don't be so quick to fly off the proverbial handle.

Now back to the RTi A7...

All we need is Love.

[BottomFeeder]

Yeah, we can all get steamed from time to time. That one went from a sarcastic joke to the threat of all out war in a heartbeat!

[Meechsterlee]

my fault...I should have never responded to Lasereath's produce joke. Sometimes, it is pretty funny to read "Caddyshack" humor in a forum. Let's put the critical issues to rest and all go out for a Slurpee and a Spicy Big Bite...eh?

[AudioFilet]

^^ How about a nice big fat pork burrito & a beer instead??

[Lasareath]

^^ How about a nice big fat pork burrito & a beer instead??

Or we can have some Matzah Ball soup at Ben's Deli in NYC, Really great place, I go at least once a month.

http://www.bensdeli.net/

http://foodlife.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/matzo_ball_soup1.jpg

I usually get the "Ronnie’s Tastemaster" sandwich, it has 4 meats, Hot Pastrami, Tonque, Roast Beef & Turkey, Really Great Sandwich!!!

[AudioFilet]

^^ But where's the PORK??? ^^

[BaggedLancer]

What is that? I wouldn't eat that with someone elses fork and mouth.....

[Lasareath]

That's a Matzah ball in soup. Really good, each Extra ball is like $1.75

They have a Matzah ball soup eating contest every year. The guy who won last year ate 20 and a quarter of these.

[BaggedLancer]

So you can get 2 Matzah balls and 1 baby carrot? :eek:


That'd be an interesting dish to photo for their website.

[tonyb]

This is why there is still war in our modern world. Everybody needs to step back take a deep breath and relax. The post that started it although insensitive and inappropriate was not meant to be hurtful. The reaction and the things said after that do appear to be hurtful on both sides. It only excalates from here to total hatred and for what? Everyone ask themselves if this is worth it.

Hmm.....nice thought,but in reality,can you tell me a time in history when their was no war being waged somewhere on this globe?

Truth be told,this thread got ugly really quick,and both party's should back up and move on.Just my .02,......where's Chuck Norris when you really need him??:p:)

[Lasareath]

where's Chuck Norris when you really need him??:p:)

I just left Church and I saw Chuck Norris there!

[Fongolio]

I just noticed my spelling mistake in my above post (excalates should read escalates). Kinda funny all things considered and nobody pointed it out. Is a Matzah ball made of mozza (relli) cheeze? Looks pretty good.

[meirco11]

i thank you and forgive you! iam sorry too.
we are here to speak about what we realy like-speakers and good sound'we are not enemys. my english is not so good,its ok. i dont mad about your joke anymore and i do sorry if i heart you, i was wrong.:o

meir cohen.

[Fongolio]

Yay!!! Peace is reached. Congratulations.

[meirco11]

fongolio,you are smart person.
not only the fact that you keep rti a7.:)

[Keiko]

I love a happy ending. :)

Welcome to CP meirco11.

[Keiko]

I just left Church and I saw Chuck Norris there!
Chuck's a`ight but he's no match for Michelle Yeoh's Kung Fu. ;)

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[Fongolio]

Thankyou meirco11.

[meirco11]

keiko,happy ending is the best.
my polk rti a7s are more then the best:)
i want to ask if bi wiring to my rti a7 will be better then the stndart conecting?????

[steveinaz]

keiko,happy ending is the best.
my polk rti a7s are more then the best:)
i want to ask if bi wiring to my rti a7 will be better then the stndart conecting?????

You can try bi-wiring, but if anything the change will be very subtle.

[Keiko]

I've never actually tried bi-wiring but have read many mixed reviews and opinions on the subject. Best advice I can give you is to try it if you want to spend the extra effort plus $ on cables and let you own ears decide.

[tonyb]

I hear John Lennon in the back ground..........

.....all we are saying,is give peace a chance......

Meirco,please give us some more info and we can best help you get the most out of your new speakers.Happy listening!!

[Lasareath]

i thank you and forgive you! iam sorry too.
we are here to speak about what we realy like-speakers and good sound'we are not enemys. my english is not so good,its ok. i dont mad about your joke anymore and i do sorry if i heart you, i was wrong.:o

meir cohen.

Thank you Meir for accepting my apology, I hope we can move on and become friends here in the Polk Forum!

Sal Cameli

[Lasareath]

Meir, Do you have any other speaker cables you can try?

Check out these: http://signalcable.com/ultraspeaker.html

http://38.161.195.8/SignalCable-Ultra-Speaker-Cables.jpg

I use Monster cables but they are 20 years old, they are amazing!!!, this is what they are called and sometimes you can still find them, If you do I would reccomend you buying a pair.

POWERLINE2 "Time Coherent" Precision Speaker Cable by Monster Cable

Sal

[Lasareath]

I found some!!!

http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?cablspkr&1211829627

[meirco11]

steveinaz keiko and tonyb,i think you all right,i will keep the stndart conection of the basic wiring. i real alot about bi wiring and even tryed it once on the lsi9 and on the rti6 but i didnt impresed at all.
lasareath-this is very impresive cable. i hope to get it in tel-aviv soon, i will try it gladly, i think that my monster z1 us not bad but theres always better scables.until then,my jazz music sound pretty good on my rti A7:D
I THANK YOU ALL!!!::)

[meirco11]

hi....after 10 days of listening to the rti A7 i realy can say that there is some improvment. i do know that the rtia7 needs more time and i feel that they can sound much better,from day to day i can hear the improvment of the sound:the mid much more tight and the bass much more full and warm.yet,stil punchy and deep. i know that the rti a7 can do more then that,therefor i will waitting another week or two,or even more time:D
Lasareath-i hope to find the nice cable that you show me(us)maybe its better from the z1,its always nice to tray somthing else.
if i may say,i realy think that the monster cable z1 referene is a great cable.
right now i listening to SPYRO GARA(LIMELIGHT) and its sound just sweet,from the rti a7.
thanks for reading my speach:)
meir cohen.

[meirco11]

i remove the 'gold' jumpers from the back of the rti a7 and insted them i put monster cable(xp). now its sound better, i read a bout this a few muonth a go on some intersting artical on speakers.
the bass now more punchy and deep.i can realy hear and feel that.:)
does someone heard a bout this??

[meirco11]

the RTI A7 is not a five star speaker.after two weeks i give up. my JBL 14 years old speakers (LX60,the floorstanding virsion of the LX44)are much better then the polkaudio rti a7. the single 8" woofer of the JBL is much more deep'full and warm then the two 7" woofers of the rti a7.
the titanum tweeter of the JBL is also better then the silk tweeter of the polk rti a7.
this is a big disapointment to me:(. i think that i waited a resneble time for the rti to break in but this is not happen.
my amp.(nad c372)and my cables are good. soooo??? what left?
3 stars from 5 to the rti a7.:mad:
what a petty.

[lukdev]

I have had my A7's for about 4 months now and am just finally starting to hear fuller bass from them, they definately are taking awhile to break in!!!

[meirco11]

its not a long time? to much time???
it is not a shame to say the true, the rti a7 is a avrage speaker, it is not a great speaker at all. somtimes we have to admit, even if we pay good money and get disapointed. 4 months to break-in?? the only choice that i have now is to belive you, thats the only choice that left to me: to wait more time.
thanks on your responce bro.

[maximillian]

It depends what you are trying to do with the A7. It is a great home theater speaker and a good music speaker. However, you can't compare it to the LSi series, or more expensive speakers from other brands. Most speakers need some burn in time (typically up to 100 hours), but if you are really disappointed now then I doubt the burn in will make the world of difference that you are looking for.

[meirco11]

i dont use h.t at all. iam a pure 2 chanel music person. so its seems like my money go with the wind and i payd 10.000 nis(2500$) for vain.in israel,polkaudio speakers are very very expensive.
i do like very much the rti6, i sold my lsi9,idid not like the ring rediator tweeter sound. i guss the rti are mainly for h.t and not for 2 ch. music. i asked polkaudio resident before i boght them and he said that the rti are excellent for music.:rolleyes:
naybe i have to stop to belive to people:o
maximillian,i liked what you wrote, its a logical and smart things.
i realy dont now what to do now:mad:
i feel sadness and i wonder what els can i do.:confused:

[fossy]

so its seems like my money go with the wind :eek::eek: You are not gonna be the first or last to feel this way but the way you typed that gave me a big laugh.I have a truck that came to mind immediately --- my money go with the wind for sure on my truck.:D

I have a pair of lsi9's that i bought in December and i swear they took 3 months to break in so don't give up !!!!

Maybe a bigger amp with 250 or 300 wpc ????

[maximillian]

I have not heard the LSi9's but am looking to buy them. They are considered the best in the current Polk series for music. Their imaging and detail is the best of the current line. I don't know much about vintage Polk's but there are many people that prefer them. You shouldn't consider all lost. If you are really dissatisfied with you A7's, then I am sure you could sell them and not take too much of a loss. Does the store you bought them at have a trade in (or trade-up) policy?

I admit I didn't read this entire thread, but I assume you are driving them and the LSi9's with a good amp. If you aren't, then there is your problem. Since you didn't like the A7's or the LSi9's then it might be that Polk Speakers are not for you. This hobby is about what YOU like so go treat yourself to another brand of speakers. Many people are unpolked (there is a thread by that name). Most important, listen to your next speakers before you buy them. Bring music you are familiar with and spend some time in the shop's demo room. Second, even if you decide to unpolk, feel free to hand out around Club Polk. There are many great people with some wonderful advice about audio in general.

[meirco11]

the lsi9 is a great speaker, they has amazing bass for abookshelvs speakers. they looks great and they very havy(15 kg each!!)i gave them to the dealer he is kinda my frind,and i promised him that thus is the last trade in about the polk speakers. its take a lot of time to new speaker to break-in.
fossy,keep on smiling'its is a good thing:D
to maximillian-i use NAD c372 amp. with the rti 7. it is a power slave amp:p and i like the 150wx2. it is realy powerfull 2 ch amp:D
the rti a7 are good speakers.i even can say very good speakers indeed but were is the hell the two 7" woofers??????:mad: i hardly can feel or hear them:rolleyes:
i have those rti a7 cherry finish about 2 weeks and its a short time to now them and to reviews them truely.
iam so glad that i didint gave my JBL and i still keep them for myself. iam also have the rti6 and they great!

thank you people:)

[F1nut]

Two weeks is not enough break in time. Give them more time. Do you play them all day or just a few hours a day?

JBL speakers tend to pump up the mid bass, creating the illusion of bass, but it's just boom-boom noise.

[Fongolio]

Using my Hafler amp and Carver pre-amp my RTiA7's have much better bass playing vinyl than playing cd's. That said, the bass is still very large but well controlled with cd's. Maybe you are just used to the big sloppy bass of the JBL's and the RTi'A7's much more controlled bass sounds weak to you.

[meirco11]

hi F1 nut.i will give them more time, two weeks are not enough time to the rti7 to breaking in.i hope to feel the two 7" woofers soon, i know that can be much more punchy and deep. i dont like to use a subwoofer(i sold my JAMO e6 sub)the real thing is to enjoy from the speakers only,without a sub.
fongolio,i do respect what you said. idont like boomy bass like i had on my lsi9. i like strong punchy bass but not so much deep or boomy.i dont like flat dry bass. but i do will give more time to my rti a7.
i belive they great speakers after all.:D

[meirco11]

rti a7:eek:

[meirco11]

two 7" woofers??? were are them??? were is the bass from them?? the rti a7 is such a lazy-bass speaker!! i wonder' were is wonder women to help me??:D
superman cant help anymore:( (r.i.p)

were are you brothers? israel is 60 years old today, lets wish health and happyness to you all.

[meirco11]

i gave up from my new rti a7,allmost 4 weeks and the rti a7 sound not so good, two empty 7" woofers,hardly can hear some bass from them.
the rti a7's are very big disappointment to me. iam so sorry that i gave my LSI9 and took the rti a7 insted:rolleyes:
now i know that it was wrong movment:mad:
i realy dont know what to do now:confused:
who want a new pair of rti a7?? free,no money,i dont want to keep them at all. iam so diappointed that i cant even now what to say:(
the rti a7 are bassless speakers,the bass is flaty and empty,cant feel at all the two 7" woofers!!
yes,they looks great but they sound bad.
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr:mad:
idont want to write any more.

[broncsrule21@]

I would take them off your hands for sure....How much is shipping??

[meirco11]

hi broncsrule21, you welcome to take my rti a7's new speakers, i hope you will enjoy from them much more then me. if you like deepless and flaty cold bass those speakers are for you.

[broncsrule21@]

hi broncsrule21, you welcome to take my rti a7's new speakers, i hope you will enjoy from them much more then me. if you like deepless and flaty cold bass those speakers are for you.

I Just think they may need more break in time.. hey I'm willing to try.

[fossy]

I listened to the 7's at Fry's a few months ago.I was comparing them to the rti10's. They sounded much fuller than the 10's.I almost bought those instead of the lsi'9 but at the last minute decide it was to much speaker for my small space.I think you need more juice.Put a separate amp to those puppy's & they will come alive i bet.:D:D

Oppss re-reading i remember you already have a separate amp -- do you know of someone with a amp with more watts that you can try ?? maybe in the 300 wpc ??

[fossy]

I would take them off your hands for sure....How much is shipping??

Yikes -- from Israel -- i bet that would be a pretty penny

[Fongolio]

My RTiA7's sound fantastic with my Hafler DH-220's measly 120 wpc. Big, full bass, great mids and crisp but not harsh highs. Great speakers. I'm not sure what's wrong with his setup that makes them so poor sounding. I have two subs that I use when I'm on HT mode because my Pioneer Elite lacks a little bottom end but in two channel with the Hafler they sound great. The speakers are on a switch so I can easily use them for Home Theater surround or two channel listening.

[meirco11]

polkaudio knows one thing: money. thats all.
shameless audio compeny thats want only our money.
wake up!!!

[dorokusai]

Well, here we go again.

[chargerman426]

bump

[toddco]

right round babey right round ... dadadodo right babey right round.......

Hey look at me no no over here LOOK at MEEEE

[Norm Apter]

Meirco,

So whats your point man? In post #95 you say "my jazz music sound pretty good on my rti A7" and then, three weeks later in post #118 out of the blue, you rant "polkaudio knows one thing: money. thats all. shameless audio compeny thats want only our money.
wake up!!!"

Without a further explanation, I can only conclude that you're trolling for attention here.

[cfrizz]

So go buy some Bose & be happy.

It's not Polks fault that you have bad hearing or are simply used to listening to overblown bass bloated speakers & don't know good bass when you actually hear it!:rolleyes:

polkaudio knows one thing: money. thats all.
shameless audio compeny thats want only our money.
wake up!!!

[wallstreet]

I give them my money all the time. Well, I used to give them my money all the time. Now that I've got a sweet sounding 7 channel Polk Audio setup, I'm really content enjoying music and movies in my media room.

Maybe you might get some more empathy in the Klipsch forum.

[F1nut]

polkaudio knows one thing: money. thats all.
shameless audio compeny thats want only our money.
wake up!!!

That's totally uncalled for.

[McLoki]

polkaudio knows one thing: money. thats all.
shameless audio compeny thats want only our money.
wake up!!!

Polk Audio is a company (as in profit based). They make speakers at different price points and offer a heck of a deal at each price point. Not sure who suggested you sell your LSi9's and get RTiA7's for 2 channel use, but they did not do you any favors (or did not understand your taste in music or desires from a speaker). I would blame them more than Polk Audio (who makes both speakers).

Maybe a vintage polk sound is more what you are looking for (that is where I would have pointed based on what you are saying in this thread) or maybe even a different manufacturer. While I am sorry the speakers do not produce the sound you like, they are still a good speaker for the price.

If bass is all that is missing and you like the rest of the speakers sound - maybe a decent sub will fill in the sound you think is missing. If you are done spending money, try placement (closer or further away from back or side walls) as well as a different room just to see if the room or placement could be the source of your issues.... You already own them, might as well see if there is a free fix to your issues.

[dorokusai]

That's totally uncalled for.

Agreed. Lasareath got stuck in some choice discussion with this dude but moved on like all good Polkies should in those situations.

I wondered when this dude would eventually turn ugly again. Well, I guess Polk should close the doors and shut down the assembly line....we've lost someone.

[steveinaz]

Meir
I think you are not used to the tighter, lower distortion bass that the A7 provides. In the Lsi9 what you are hearing is more emphasis in upper bass, not deeper/controlled bass. This is a common mis-conception. I'm sure that if you try some music with very low bass passages, the A7 will redeem itself very nicely. There is a difference between an abundance of bass, and accurately reproduced bass.

[steveinaz]

You'll find that the better your equipment gets, the better it has to be. Sort of a viscious circle thing. I think if you try some very good audiophile recordings, you'll love the A7.

Best of luck, hang in there.