Heath Ledger found dead

[wingnut4772]

TMZ has learned that Academy Award nominee Heath Ledger has died in NY.

He was found dead in his bed in one of his residences in Soho by his housekeeper at 3:35 PM ET today. Law enforcement sources tell TMZ they believe it was not a crime.

The 28-year-old actor has a two year old daughter with former fiancee Michelle Williams. He was set to play the Joker in the upcoming Batman film "The Dark Knight."

Story developing...


TMZ (http://www.tmz.com/)

[shack]

Whoa....That's terrible news.

[nikolas812]

Very unexpected.

[wingnut4772]

So what do we surmise at this premature stage? He was 28.

[Face]

He was only 28?

[AndyGwis]

drugs. . . I don't know. He didn't seem like the OD type. Maybe suicide?

Maybe Batman killed him?!?

Probably a little to early to tell, or to joke about. Tragic, though. Talented actor for sure.

[wingnut4772]

He was only 28?

That's what it says, I thought he was older.


He didn't seem like the drug type but who knows.

[nikolas812]

Drugs......

Look at Owen Wilson......... Who knew?

[zingo]

Sad times. I thought the tread was going to be a joke, but I guess not.

[wingnut4772]

UPDATE
MSNBC is reporting that the actor was found, surrounded by pills.

[Gaara]

New York Times Article (http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/actor-heath-ledger-is-found-dead) A little more reliable source of info.

[aaharvel]

I'm in shock. Ledger was my favorite actor, outside of Hopkins. I actually likened him to my generation's (young) Marlon Brando. Unbelievable. Just serves as a reminder that anyone can check out at any given time.

[Music Joe]

Actor in upcoming The Dark Knight found dead (http://www.theheraldbulletin.com/breakingnews/local_story_022164638.html)

Bit of a shock.

If this post seems oddly placed.

[wingnut4772]

Way ahead of you.:p
Heath Thread (http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62650)

[Gaara]

nm I'm to slow

[m00npie]

I certainly feel bad for his family, but I have no sympathy for those that choose to take their own lives if that is the case. It is the most selfish act any person could do and quite frankly, it is the easy way out when the chips are down.

At least once per month if not more, the Long Island Railroad will come to a halt because someone chose the easy way and walked in front of the train. I’m willing to bet that some of these folks had it a lot worse than this schmuck.

[Strong Bad]

WOW, this is terrible! This guys career was taking off and surely would have put him near the upper tier with the upcoming Dark Knight.

Just goes to show that fame and fortune can't guarantee happiness!

Very sad.

John

[Danny Tse]

Wow! That's shocking!!

[aaharvel]

Real classy m00n. Typical internet tough guy b.s. :rolleyes:

[Face]

Real classy m00n. Typical internet tough guy b.s. :rolleyes:
I completely agree with m00npie, I don't believe that was tough guy talk at all. And this is coming from someone who personally knows and was friends with three people who killed themselves over the last 5 years.

[wingnut4772]

We don't know it was a suicide yet.

[m00npie]

Real classy m00n. Typical internet tough guy b.s. :rolleyes:

No, a classless act is one who chooses to take their own life without regard to family (especially children), friends, working obligations, etc… As for tough guy…that not me at all. Insensitive comment, perhaps but I have seen first hand the result of someone close choosing this route and to this day it pisses me off.

[bobman1235]

Even a drug OD... you'd think by 28 you'd be smarter than that. Especially with kids. Unless he was forced to do what he did, it was a selfish act.

Damn shame, I liked him enough. Saying he was this generations Brando ... well I won't get nasty but I'll just say no way. But still, a decent enough actor, such a waste.

[Datastorm]

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[Early B.]

I certainly feel bad for his family, but I have no sympathy for those that choose to take their own lives if that is the case. It is the most selfish act any person could do and quite frankly, it is the easy way out when the chips are down.

Most people who take their own lives suffer from some sort of severe psychological disorder. To call them "selfish" is very inappropriate. Moreover, to not sympathize with someone with a tremendous mental health problem... Be careful about casting the first stone.

[Strong Bad]

Filming was finished on Dark Knight. I can't imagine the studio would stop the film now since it's slated to be released in early summer and fairly close to finishing up.

[jakelm]

Then lets just say sorry for his family and say nothing about him..

...cause thats about how I feel..

[Datastorm]

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[Music Joe]

Till it's substantiated I'm going with accident or other.

[Music Joe]

Way ahead of you.:p
Heath Thread (http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62650)

Note to self: check all forums first :o

[wingnut4772]

Interview. Was he under the influence?

Heath Interview (http://perezhilton.com/)

[wingnut4772]

Note to self: check all forums first :o

We all do it from time to time.:)

[Music Joe]

(((Threadmeld :eek:)))

[avelanchefan]

I just read the news on CNN knowing full well there would be a thread here. I personally loved Ledger's acting. Whether it was in Knights Tale or Brokeback, the guy was versatile, and despite the "fame" BBM brought him he had a very bright future well before that movie.

Not going to shed a tear over his loss tonight, BUT he will be sorely missed. RIP Heath.

[Face]

You guys are jumping to conclusions.....Heres a quote from that news story:

"One law enforcement source told us it is much too early to determine if the death was accidental or suicide."I agree. I take hand fulls of sleeping pills on accident all the time.

[Early B.]

You guys are jumping to conclusions.....Heres a quote from that news story:

"One law enforcement source told us it is much too early to determine if the death was accidental or suicide."

So lets just leave it alone about the suicide till the investigation is over....

Well, maybe it was an accidental suicide.:rolleyes:

[Datastorm]

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[heiney9]

http://www.smh.com.au/news/film/top-actor-ledger-found-naked-in-bed-with-pills/2008/01/23/1201024937592.html

[wingnut4772]

Already Posted (http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62656&highlight=heath)

[schwarcw]

Very sad however you look at it. My thoughts and prayers are with his family, friends and loved ones. They must be overwhelmed by this loss. RIP.

He was found by the housekeeper and masseuse. Apparently in one of the Olsen twins apartment. That's a little creepy, and fodder for the tabloids.

Damn shame, all of it.

[Demiurge]

Filming was finished on Dark Knight. I can't imagine the studio would stop the film now since it's slated to be released in early summer and fairly close to finishing up.

It'll be released. As much as this sucks, and despite not needing it, this is huge press for The Dark Knight.

We went through all of this with Brandon Lee & The Crow.

This sucks and is very sad for sure, mostly for his daughter.

[Lasareath]

Just found out, Wow that really sucks!, He was such a great actor!

[avguytx]

Yeah, I figured there'd be some smart ass comeback.....typical.....

And then one to follow it up....

[heiney9]

Already Posted (http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62656&highlight=heath)

OOPS-my bad.

[avguytx]

OOPS-my bad.

Dang, H9....can't you search first? :D :rolleyes: ;)

[nikolas812]

What happend to the one wingnut posted???:confused:

[lancer]

I think a lot of actors can't handle success very well. I personally would be overwhelmed if were to be put in the position of star status. It would take a very strong person to handle all the fortune and fame. I know actors and musicians have a much higher suicide rates if this is what happened?

[bobman1235]

What happend to the one wingnut posted???:confused:

All of the threads were combined.


I think a lot of actors can't handle success very well. I personally would be overwhelmed if were to be put in the position of star status. It would take a very strong person to handle all the fortune and fame. I know actors and musicians have a much higher suicide rates if this is what happened?

There was actually a great interview with Dave Grohl in Maxim last month that brought up this very thing (though in relation to Britney I think, not something like this)

"The kids now who are experiencing fame, money, paparazzi - they need to get their asses out of the nightclubs and have a barbecue with their fucking family once a week. It's not rocket science."

[Demiurge]

You read the interviews in Maxim? :eek::p

[Willow]

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looks like we have another one.

[SolidSqual]

Booo frickin hooo. Who cares. I've no sympathy. If this guy killed himself because he though his life sucked or he was depressed, then I could give a rat's butt.

"I cant' handle all this success and attention. Please stop handing me money for wearing your designer clothes. No girls, my nuts are tired I can't have sex with you anymore. Please call my assistant, she'll schedule you all in next week between my afternoon massages and midday martinis. No Sir, it's not a film about gay relationships its about the relationship between two people who have fallen victim to a forbidden love. And besides, you're not gay unless you give a reach around . . . "

Stress . . . what crap.

[SolidSqual]

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looks like we have another one.

Guess Heath joins the ranks of Morrison, Hendrix,Joplin,Cobain.....

HE is nothing close to those artists.

[Willow]

wrong death age

[polkatese]

He played great acting on The Patriot (as Gabriel, along with Mel Gibson). Too bad.

[hearingimpared]

I think we are all casting the first stone here with speculation. It is a real bummer that this young man passed away. Let's just hope it WAS an accident and not something more.

BTW M00npie is a gentleman and no internet thug. I however am!:D

[Ron-P]

RIP Mr. Ledger, you will be missed. A very good actor and one of my favorites.

[Face]

Who saw Monster's Ball, want to talk about irony?

[PolkThug]

I thought he died of pneumonia, what's up with all the suicide talk?

[danger boy]

it is sad that he is gone.. i don't care how he died other than to know it was an overdose.. that's all I need to know. the tabloids are going to have a hey day with this one though.

He was a good actor.. certainly had a very bright future ahead of him. RIP

[Face]

I thought he died of pneumonia, what's up with all the suicide talk?
Taken from: http://www.smh.com.au/news/film/ledger-did-not-kill-himself-says-family/2008/01/23/1201024937592.html?page=2
"Last week I probably slept an average of two hours a night," Ledger told the Times.

"I couldn't stop thinking. My body was exhausted, and my mind was still going."

He said he took two Ambien pills, which only worked for an hour, the paper said.
Anyone who's taken Ambien will tell you, he has a problem. If I took two Ambiens(assuming he was prescribed the maximum dose), I would sleep for a minimum of 12-14 hours. It wouldn't surprise me if it was a accidental suicide. But, one that could have been easily avoided.

[F1nut]

My first thought was, who cares? Then I had a second thought, who cares?

[KrazyMofo24]

Based on Larry King the police don't feel it was a suicide, they found prescribed pills not scattered just in a container. Its most likely an accident :(

[KrazyMofo24]

My first thought was, who cares? Then I had a second thought, who cares?

After two pages of responses about his death, and the story on every news channel, and you still ask yourself twice if anyone cares?

[zingo]

Who cares? When Brittany is a bigger story than a fed rate cut and our economy, I start asking a lot of questions, and I care!

[F1nut]

After two pages of responses about his death, and the story on every news channel, and you still ask yourself twice if anyone cares?

Because this person is a movie star, I'm suppose to care that his life ended!?! I don't think so. What makes his death any more important than the other X number of people that died today? Nothing, absolutely nothing!

[KrazyMofo24]

No one asked you if you cared. You were asking why anyone would care, and there are plenty of reasons why another person would care . His death is not more important than anyone else's but thats not why someone would care.

[F1nut]

It was an rhetorical question. :rolleyes:

[Strong Bad]

Justin:

Give his ass another week in the slammer!!! :D This time, put Bubba in there with him as he obviously didn't learn the first time!

[bobman1235]

People care cuz he's familiar. Just like you care when someone you met a few times died, same thing. I don't think anyone's broken up about it but it's worth mentioning because you watch someone a few times in some movies and there's a familiarity.

[nikolas812]

Taken from: http://www.smh.com.au/news/film/ledger-did-not-kill-himself-says-family/2008/01/23/1201024937592.html?page=2

Anyone who's taken Ambien will tell you, he has a problem. If I took two Ambiens(assuming he was prescribed the maximum dose), I would sleep for a minimum of 12-14 hours. It wouldn't surprise me if it was a accidental suicide. But, one that could have been easily avoided.

After finding out it was Abien he was takeing I think it is more likely an accident. Abien is a VERY addictive and a VERY powerful drug. I am sure there are a ton of articles about it on the net. I was taking it for a while but had to quit taking it. It was to strong. One pill and I would get a good 10 hours of sleep. But I would feel bad the entire next day. Not to mention memory loss and the crazy things you do while on it. If I took it a little too early sometime I would walk around the house like a zombie and do stuff and have no idea the next day what I did. The point is if one pill was letting him get one hour of sleep than he has probably been abusing them to build up that kind of tolerence. So accidental or not it is still a shame. He should have know better.

[Face]

I made some odd phone calls while on Ambien, and I have no recollection of any of them. :D

[polrbehr]

I made some odd phone calls while on Ambien, and I have no recollection of any of them. :D

You sure did. By the way, that check I sent you for $100 cleared two weeks ago; where are those Mac amps you promised me?? ;)

[PolkThug]

Of course... (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,324966,00.html)

[bobman1235]

I really hope there is a God and hell just so those assholes at Kansas Baptist get sodomized by the devil for the rest of eternity.

[lancer]

I really hope there is a God and hell just so those assholes at Kansas Baptist get sodomized by the devil for the rest of eternity.

They are a bunch of nuts out there at that church.
How can they protest while a soldier is being buried. Even if you don't support the war.

[aaharvel]

I certainly feel bad for his family, but I have no sympathy for those that choose to take their own lives if that is the case. It is the most selfish act any person could do and quite frankly, it is the easy way out when the chips are down.

At least once per month if not more, the Long Island Railroad will come to a halt because someone chose the easy way and walked in front of the train. I’m willing to bet that some of these folks had it a lot worse than this schmuck.

Nailed that one m00npie (http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/film/article3320593.ece).

[cfrizz]

It was an accidental over dose not deliberate. He was sick, & wanted relief. He didn't stop to think that the number of pills he was taking & the combination of all of them together might have an adverse reaction or might kill him, he justed wanted to get some sleep.

[bobman1235]

I love how, from an autopsy alone, they think they know whether it was accidental or not. Unless they have the guy from Pushing Daisies working with them, we'll never know if he knew what he was doing would kill him.

Though statistically, when a younger male kills himself, it's in a violent way (ie, gun, not pills).

[shack]

I love how, from an autopsy alone, they think they know whether it was accidental or not. Unless they have the guy from Pushing Daisies working with them, we'll never know if he knew what he was doing would kill him.

Though statistically, when a younger male kills himself, it's in a violent way (ie, gun, not pills).

I think they can tell quite a lot from the various toxicolgy reports. For instance they can probably tell if the pills were taken in relative small doses over a period of time or if they were taken in one large batch. One would be more indicative of suicide than the other. Assumptions yes...but still reasoned and justified assumptions.

[Shizelbs]

Ambien, relatively speaking, is not very addictive.

[PhantomOG]

OxyContin, Vicodin, Valium, Xanax and sleeping pills. Damn, what doctor prescribes all those together to one person? Probably multiple doctors, but still, something tells me Joe Six Pack off the street would have a hard time getting that cocktail legally.

[Shizelbs]

It wouldn't be that hard, and his celebrity status certainly helped him.

[george daniel]

Ambien, relatively speaking, is not very addictive.

That's correct sir,, Hell, I've been taking it for years,,every night,, :p;)

[shack]

That's correct sir,, Hell, I've been taking it for years,,every night,, :p;)

And you can stop anytime you want...just like that! Right? :p

[Mike Kozak]

Sad, a loss all around , no matter who dies