Tool: Undertow . . .

[SolidSqual]

. . . I just had a religious experience.

I'm not sure if it was the recording or my system. But, this album never sounded so good. IT was spooky sick. At one point there is a man speaking as music plays in the background. When he began speaking I jumped out of my seat . . . It sounded like he was right behind my left ear! Whispering. I'm frickin serious. Someone was in that room with me. Stereo is awesome!

The music continues to play until it grows to full volume. The guitar was primarily at center stage, but a few spooky notes would jump behind my listening position. Amazing!

God I love stereo and Tool!

[Face]

Tool's Opiate does the same thing to me, incredible imaging.

[Toxis]

Gotta love bands that actually take the time to create amazing sounding CDs instead of just throwing music on a disc.

[jakelm]

My modern day Pink Floyd, I love them

[phuz]

That album is one of my all time favs. It was on full rotation in my teenage years, and yes the part where Henry Rollins speaks in "Bottom" can spook you on even a modest system.

[Lasareath]

I don't own any Tool or Korn, Can you guys suggest which albums I should pick up?

I need some new CD's to listen to. And today is Sunday, The WAF is away and I have a $100 best buy gift card leftover from christmas ;)

Thanks!

[Face]

You can't go wrong with any Tool album, but I would recommend 10,000 Days, Lateralus, and Undertow. As for Korn, IMO, the older the better.

[SolidSqual]

All of the Toll Albums are amazing in their own right. There earlier albums are a little more angry but also has its elements of some guys just screwin around and having fun. LAteralus, Aenima, and 10,000 days are notceably more mature.

I would start with Opiate as it is their first. Just know that it does not nearly reflect where they are now.

[edossin4]

They really don't have alot of discs. I love them all except 10,000 Days, their newest one.

Just doesn't seem to have the passion of the earlier ones.

[Face]

They really don't have alot of discs. I love them all except 10,000 Days, their newest one.

Just doesn't seem to have the passion of the earlier ones.

I thought the same thing at first, but it took time to grow on me. Now 10,000 days and the song itself Opiate get the most play time in my rig.

[SolidSqual]

They really don't have alot of discs. I love them all except 10,000 Days, their newest one.

Just doesn't seem to have the passion of the earlier ones.

10,00 Days grew on me as well. A whole hell of a lot. I love them all. Especially this one. The material is way more mature. Listen to the lyrics. This is one of the best and the recording is awesome.

[Demiurge]

I don't own any Tool or Korn, Can you guys suggest which albums I should pick up?

I need some new CD's to listen to. And today is Sunday, The WAF is away and I have a $100 best buy gift card leftover from christmas ;)

Thanks!

All of the Tool albums are good. Lateralus may be the one to impress you the most, as it's their best, IMO.

Korn blows, and shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as Tool. We'e talking about a band that's creative and detailed vs a band full of pierced and tattooed monkeys that play instruments.

[Lasareath]

Korn blows, and shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as Tool. We'e talking about a band that's creative and detailed vs a band full of pierced and tattooed monkeys that play instruments.

Ok, Thanks All, I'm heading to Best Buy now. Sorry abouting mentioning Korn, I'm just buying a lot of CD's these days from bands with 4-Letters in their name.

Thanks Again, Sal

[Face]

All of the Tool albums are good. Lateralus may be the one to impress you the most, as it's their best, IMO.
I'm listening to Lateralus right now actually.
Korn blows, and shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as Tool. We'e talking about a band that's creative and detailed vs a band full of pierced and tattooed monkeys that play instruments.
I wouldn't go that far. Their first two records were great, unfortunately after that it was a very slippery slope. :D
http://www.colomboint.com/imgs/monkey.JPG

[SolidSqual]

All of the Tool albums are good. Lateralus may be the one to impress you the most, as it's their best, IMO.

Korn blows, and shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as Tool. We'e talking about a band that's creative and detailed vs a band full of pierced and tattooed monkeys that play instruments.

well said

[obieone]

I like 1 song by Tool(Hush) and 1 song by Korn(Coming Apart?)
Although, I think Tool is more talented because they utilize rap LESS in their music:D

[SolidSqual]

I like 1 song by Tool(Hush) and 1 song by Korn(Coming Apart?)
Although, I think Tool is more talented because they utilize rap LESS in their music:D

Tool does not rap at all in their music numb nuts. Keep talking crap about this band and your in for a war.

I think your opinion is MORE irrelevant than most because you use stupid smiley faces.

[Lasareath]

Lateralus Limited Edition Vinyl. Two full-color picture disks. $45.00

https://www.toolband.com/catalog/

[Face]

Lateralus Limited Edition Vinyl. Two full-color picture disks. $45.00

https://www.toolband.com/catalog/
I have it. I'm not totally happy with it since I had to clean A BRAND NEW RECORD three times to get rid of the cracking and popping.

[Demiurge]

Lateralus Limited Edition Vinyl. Two full-color picture disks. $45.00

https://www.toolband.com/catalog/

I've got that one autographed by the entire band. Oh the perks of TA. :D

[Face]

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=27043554

[Lasareath]

I'm back, I bought 6 CD's

5 Tool & one from The Who that was missing in my collection.

I'm terminating my new speaker cables so I will not be listening for at least an hour.

Which one should I start with?

The Oldest one first?, and move up until I get to the current?

Thanks!

Sal

[Demiurge]

Yes, it's definitely a progression.

[SolidSqual]

I would also check out A Perfect Circle - That's Maynard's side project.

[venomclan]

All of the Tool albums are good. Lateralus may be the one to impress you the most, as it's their best, IMO.

Korn blows, and shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as Tool. We'e talking about a band that's creative and detailed vs a band full of pierced and tattooed monkeys that play instruments.

Agreed

I'm back, I bought 6 CD's

5 Tool & one from The Who that was missing in my collection.

Which one should I start with?

The Oldest one first?, and move up until I get to the current?
Thanks!
Sal

They are all great and different. Some of my favorites:

Undertow - Sober, bottom, untertow
Aenima - 46 & 2, Third Eye
Lateralus - The Patient, Lateralus, Reflections
10K Days - Right in two


I would also check out A Perfect Circle - That's Maynard's side project.

Agreed. Go back to BB and get Mer De Noms and 13th Step.
Venom

[shadowofnight]

When it first came out , Undertow got me hook line and sinker...was absolutely awesome. Sober's bass line kicked you in the chest...became my favorite song/band the instant I bought that cd many moons ago. They kick ass in concert as well. The cries of the carrots was hilarious at the time I thought...:D ( From Disgustipated )

And the angel of the lord came unto me, snatching me up from my place of slumber.
And took me on high, and higher still until we moved to the spaces betwixt the air itself.
And he brought me into a vast farmlands of our own midwest.
And as we descended, cries of impending doom rose from the soil.
One thousand, nay a million voices full of fear.
And terror possesed me then.
And I begged,
"Angel of the Lord, what are these tortured screams?"
And the angel said unto me,
"These are the cries of the carrots, the cries of the carrots!
You see, Reverend Maynard, tomorrow is harvest day and to them it is the holocaust."
And I sprang from my slumber drenched in sweat like the tears of one million terrified brothers and roared,
"Hear me now, I have seen the light!
They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul!
Damn you!
Let the rabbits wear glasses!
Save our brothers!"
Can I get an amen?
Can I get a hallelujah?
Thank you Jesus.

[SolidSqual]

That still makes me laugh. Most of the time Tool is just joking around with the music they write. That's the funny part. They can et some people really fired up and yet they are just having fun . . . while making a point.

[shadowofnight]

My ALLTIME favorite lyric from a tool song happens to be from Undertow as well...from Sober...the music matching with these lyrics is magic.

I will find a center in you.
I will chew it up and leave,
I will work to elevate you
just enough to bring you down.

[SolidSqual]

I think the Lyrics of this song are brilliant.

Aenima:


Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will.
I sure could use a vacation from this

Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of
Freaks

Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any fucking time. Any fucking day.
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.

Fret for your figure and
Fret for your latte and
Fret for your hairpiece and
Fret for your lawsuit and
Fret for your prozac and
Fret for your pilot and
Fret for your contract and
Fret for your car.

It's a
Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of
Freaks

Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any fucking time. Any fucking day.
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.

Some say a comet will fall from the sky.
Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still.
Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits.

Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will cuz
I sure could use a vacation from this

Silly shit, stupid shit...

One great big festering neon distraction,
I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied.

Learn to swim.

Mom's gonna fix it all soon.
Mom's comin' round to put it back the way it ought to be.

Learn to swim.

Fuck L Ron Hubbard and
Fuck all his clones.
Fuck all those gun-toting
Hip gangster wannabes.

Learn to swim.

Fuck retro anything.
Fuck your tattoos.
Fuck all you junkies and
Fuck your short memory.

Learn to swim.

Fuck smiley glad-hands
With hidden agendas.
Fuck these dysfunctional,
Insecure actresses.

Learn to swim.

Cuz I'm praying for rain
And I'm praying for tidal waves
I wanna see the ground give way.
I wanna watch it all go down.
Mom please flush it all away.
I wanna watch it go right in and down.
I wanna watch it go right in.
Watch you flush it all away.

Time to bring it down again.
Don't just call me pessimist.
Try and read between the lines.

I can't imagine why you wouldn't
Welcome any change, my friend.

I wanna see it all come down.
suck it down.
flush it down.

[Face]

I agree, most of their lyrics are incredible. I just hope the lyrics from Prison Sex weren't from a personal experience.

IMO, their work has the best imaging out of anything else I've listened to.

[Lasareath]

I worked on my speaker cables, I listened to the Who cd I bought, went to dinner, bid and won a pair of 5A's, Shhhhhh, the waf was right next to me and didint see me bid, lol, and now I'm gonna watch some tv, tomorrow I am home all day, doing my Jan billings and working on some quotes for my clients, I will start to listen to them tomorrow.

[venomclan]

Dreaming of that face again. It's bright and blue and shimmering. Grinning wide and comforting me with it's three warm and wild eyes. On my back and tumbling down that hole and back again rising upand wiping the webs and the dew from my withered eye.

[SolidSqual]

I wonder if that will sound better on my CS2s or your R3s?

[halo]

I worked on my speaker cables, I listened to the Who cd I bought, went to dinner, bid and won a pair of 5A's, Shhhhhh, the waf was right next to me and didint see me bid, lol, and now I'm gonna watch some tv, tomorrow I am home all day, doing my Jan billings and working on some quotes for my clients, I will start to listen to them tomorrow.you outbid me on those buddy :mad:

[Face]

Listening to 10,000 days(Wings, pt. 2), I can't get over the imaging. I had to check twice to make sure my surround speakers aren't on.

[SolidSqual]

I wish I new more about sound engineering to appreciate how the hell these guys can create what they do and others can barely create a dynamic set of notes.

[Face]

I noticed incredible imaging as far back as Opiate.

As far as producing those kind of sounds or effects, I don't know. Can you record certain sounds or noises out of phase with the rest of the track?

[halo]

And to think people actually made fun of me for bringing all my TOOL CD's to the Chicagoland PF.

Didn't want to hear a single song. :eek:

Hope they can see what they missed out on now.

[halo]

a band full of pierced and tattooed monkeys that play instruments.I'm a tattooed monkey and damn proud of it.

[Face]

Next time the guys are here, I'll be sure to throw on some Opiate and 10,000 days, whether they like it or not. :D

[halo]

Lateralus is on the "SDA recommended playlist" so I really don't see what the problem was. Judging a book by its cover / rep I suppose.

[Face]

I haven't picked up a set of SDA's...yet. I'll keep that in mind.

[Hi-Buy]

Thanks to this thread for making me dig up all my tool cd's.. Also, Which tool cd looks like a circular/table saw blade ? I cant seem to remember which one this is and its bugging me.

[Demiurge]

I'm a tattooed monkey and damn proud of it.

Sorry, I should have just said they're pierced and tattooed monkey posers. Feel better? :confused: :)

[Demiurge]

Thanks to this thread for making me dig up all my tool cd's.. Also, Which tool cd looks like a circular/table saw blade ? I cant seem to remember which one this is and its bugging me.

Lateralus

[halo]

Sorry, I should have just said they're pierced and tattooed monkey posers. Feel better? :confused: :)Just messing with ya D. ;) I could care less what other people think about me nowadays. Life's too short for that shit.

[stubby]

Had to jump in on this...I also have the complete Tool collection and I agree they have "matured" through the years but always seem to keep things tongue in cheek. As far as sonics, I don't think there is another group out there that cares about their recordings as much as they do. My SRS's just disappear, especially on their last two releases. The dynamics are excellent and the imaging is psychadelic. If you are even a bit under the influence, it can scare the shit out of you. I also have to pimp the fact that Danny (drums) is from my home town of Paola, Kansas. Hopefully, we can get a few more albums out of them before time takes it's toll-like it does to most bands.


Stubby

[venomclan]

I miss A Perfect Circle. I felt that this was a very mature Tool-like sound. Raw yet with an emotional and different point of view.
Venom

[jflail2]

I haven't been a big fan of Maynard's other side project to date. Picked up Puscifer, and just wasn't impressed with it. Am I missing something here?

[Face]

I haven't been a big fan of Maynard's other side project to date. Picked up Puscifer, and just wasn't impressed with it. Am I missing something here?
You're not the only one.

[SolidSqual]

Puscifer? What's that?

[jflail2]

Maynard's "other" side project. Started out as a fake band on an old Mr. Show sketch (which Maynard was in btw) and I guess at some point he took it and ran with it. For a while there was just a website with some interesting live songs, etc, but now there is a HORRENDOUS album out. Just terrible. You can pick it up at BB for like 12$, if you really want to throw some $$ down the toilet.

I'd recommend giving it a listen somewhere 1st.

[mhw58]

The only Tool cd I own is Aenima and I like it. I bought it because I have Polk SDA's and someone said it sounds great on the SDA's. What are your opinions of it compared to their others. Any other Tool stuff that sounds great on Polk SDA's?
Thanks, Mike

[steveinaz]

2-channel has always, and will always rule.

[Face]

The only Tool cd I own is Aenima and I like it. I bought it because I have Polk SDA's and someone said it sounds great on the SDA's. What are your opinions of it compared to their others. Any other Tool stuff that sounds great on Polk SDA's?
Thanks, Mike
I don't have SDA's, but you'll probably also enjoy 10,000 days.

[halo]

If I were you I'd pick up all the rest of the TOOL albums. Give APC (A Perfect Circle) a listen as well. They're ALL :cool:

[Demiurge]

Puscifer? What's that?

It's Maynards long time side project (he's been in soundtracks under that name for quite a while) which is absolutely nothing like Tool. Some of it is funny, but most of it sucks. I almost think it's a joke to see how much crap he can get people to buy. He couldn't believe the obscene amount of money people were paying for his paper shooting targets that he shot up and sold as a joke, at first. He has that type of sense of humor, then again, could be serious. You never know.

[jflail2]

From wikki:

Puscifer's original name was Umlaut, "a premiere improvisational hardcore band."[2] The name "Puscifer" was first publicized as a fictional band in the first episode of Mr. Show, including Keenan and Adam Jones as members. Jones is not associated with Puscifer otherwise, although artwork by Jones has been featured on Puscifer apparel (the "Your Mom's a Bitch" shirt, specifically).

Puscifer is "as much a clothing line as it is a band", with the clothing items produced in limited numbers. Keenan collaborated on a leather jacket with Paul Frank.[2]

Keenan describes Puscifer as "simply a playground for the various voices in my head, [...] a space with no clear or discernible goals, [...] where my Id, Ego, and Anima all come together to exchange cookie recipes."[3]

Puscifer has no current plans to tour, though Keenan is working on short films with Ford Englerth and Jeffrey Brooks from Red Rock Entertainment Development that could be shown on a tour. These shorts are done in a similar manner to that of Mr. Show and Tom Waits' Big Time.[2]

On April 10, 2007, Keenan posted on the official website that a release may be aimed for mid-October.[4] A newer post on June 25, 2007 states that Joe Barresi mixed the first song, which will have a music video, as well as an alternate version of "Cuntry Boner", which will likely be released as a CD single with bonus tracks. Further mixing will be done by Keenan and Alan Moulder by August.[5]

Keenan announced at the end of July that the album would be titled "V" is for Vagina and, a few days later, he announced that the first single would be "Queen B" with a video released in late September.[6] On October 1, "Queen B" appeared on the podcast on puscifer.com. This was followed by the podcast release of "Trekka" on October 7. The album was released on October 30 and debuted at #25 on the Billboard 200.[7]

[Barnestormer]

I got introduced to Tool through the Octane channel on Sirius with the 10000 Day stuff. Y'all have convinced me to go invest in the earlier stuff as well. Always been a avid Rush fan and so have dug thought provoking lyrics. Tool has a 'refined' raw emotion that I truely enjoy.

Good reading - Thanks!!!!!!!